Guild Wars 2

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dont why jq even plays. must be boring for them.

Balance is boring if it means fighting the same fight every week from the same position in EB. That should at least rotate opponents with similar opponents in other tiers.

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Thor.1756:

urzen.7096:

Speaking for myself, I think its more fun to have even, challenging fight than to fight doors. Points dont matter cause you dont win anything. Having more points than someone is not entertaining. FIghting them for an hour to defend a tower is.

Then SoR should be adapting, splitting up into smaller groups when the fight calls for it, and fighting the enemy where they go, having your even fights in smaller groups. Not simply complaining when some of your enemy disappears and calling them cowards. I’ve seen single JQ guilds do this multiple times, leaving a main force of 20-30 on one map, and sending 10 to organize pugs on another. I’ve yet to see Choo, TW, or any other SoR guild employ this kind of flexibility.

I said ‘speaking for myself’. Your complaint is for someone else. My guild doesnt have enough people to field 20 on one map and 10 on another. Especially when the map we are on we are facing 50 enemies. We spent our entire 2 hour event the other day defending our single spawn tower from constant zerg attacks by JQ from a fully upgraded Bay, including golem rushes. That was far more fun, than going to some BL with no one in it.

Thor.1756:

Burl.9567:

We see you guys around….but then you leave after 30 mins or so. Not sure why…

Well if we leave it’s either

1. we’ve already won the match and are just running XP/Karma trains
or
2. SoR’s concentrated all of its forces on one borderland in one giant amorphous blob, and since we care about PPT AND fights, one of the groups on the border splits out to another one to cap all your kitten.

This is called “strategy.” We routinely laugh our kitten off as your giant blob fails to cap anything more on this map while losing everything else your server owns. You may claim that your victories in your one big group mean you’re more skilled players, but some people may think that the ability to divide forces into smaller groups and cap more objectives is another indicator of server skill. Crazy, I know.

Speaking for myself, I think its more fun to have even, challenging fight than to fight doors. Points dont matter cause you dont win anything. Having more points than someone is not entertaining. FIghting them for an hour to defend a tower is.

This is why many of us canceled wvw nights when the enemy didnt show up in t2. Its just not fun to cap empty buildings.

Peetee.9406:

Mindtrick.5190:

Is it a holiday week for SOR? The NASCAR starts this weekend and pretty sure senior citizens get free coffee at the international house of pancakes as well.

Miasmic, I think this guy is calling you out. You going to take that?

Does it matter? You dont actually win anything, you know?

Long fight in JQ BL, defending our lone tower against JQ zerg doing cat attack, golem rush, and treb attack from center island. But we held and took bay from them in return.

Nobody bumps this thread? Ok, then here is a pic of us doing somethign in WVW

Tenoh.2305:

Bosses? lol, when a lvl 5 champion kills my lvl 80 warrior in 3 hits i tend to curse anet >_>

Your warrior wasnt level 80. He was level 5.

But as to the topic, most bosses are pretty dull. Scripted encounters, one shot kills. Excessive HP in place of intelligence.

Yeah, app doesnt seem to show anyones streams. Rez should be ok though. Ive got the score box maxed, and low FPS.

Maybe not. Twitch app doesnt show all channels. And browser doesnt play.

moolie.5927:

I’m on a cellphone so that’s probably not going to work for me, lol.

Theres an app for that! But I think you could open it on web browser too. its just flash video

Just messing with this and wont keep it up long, BUT if you want to see live streaming score http://www.twitch.tv/urrzen

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Vodka.3958:

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profitsports.5789:

then maybe you two servers should jus get the hell out and make way for kaineng and blackgate, the true tier one servers

Having fought Blackgate for far more weeks than you. I can safely say that they have less coverage than JQ and their NA presence isn’t as good either. They belong in T1 of SoS most likely. They have better coverage than SoR but a far worse NA crew, so I am not so sure they ‘deserve’ T1 and more than SoR despite all the Pvdoor they did for numerous weeks uncontested to run up score.

That was a long time ago my friend. Blackgates guilds are far more improved then the days of being in tier 2. We are far more battle tested then you are seeing as this is your first stint in tier 1. Get ready for that third place spot when bg returns to tier 1 my friend

I like your confidence but trust me SoR is much stronger than BG now even with your recent transfers from foE and AGG.

I’m pretty sure Blackgates perfect 11-0 record against SoR says otherwise but you can keep thinking what you want to make yourself feel better.

To be fair, 9 of those wins were against our doors.

ITs not JQs fault. THey have a ton of players throughout most timezones. What else is there to do but conquer whatever isnt theirs? SOR or SOS would do the same. DOesnt means its fun for anyone.

Who even cares if they havfe 700pts or 150k points. There are no rewards for winning. WvW is about fun, and steamrolling or being steamrolled is not fun. Blame Arenanet for poor game design.

Camaro Charr.2805:

I would ask that EMP members not get baited into the low-class forum attacks from SOR. We need to have empathy for SOR, they are fighting a war they are not going to win. There is a good bit of anger and frustration about that. They only have small victories to try and relish at this point. We also do not need lump the whole of SOR with this small group of SOR members.

I would also ask that the decent guilds and communities of SOR help to keep some of this in check also. (I think the bulk of SOR is made up of decent classy community members.)

Before anyone yells about “coverage”, “stacking” etc. Remember that Arenanet stated a long time ago the direction and the rules that would be in place. Near the end of free transfers, JQ (and SOS) both realized as a community that they would need to try to fill the gaps in the coverage. Both worked hard on forums to recruit and politic for their communities. We did not ask for Arenanet to change the rules for us. We worked with the rules of the game that were already in place. And just like any sports team, we “drafted” to meet our needs. Why other servers did not do this also is beyond me? The difference here is “Community.” JQ and SOS both had an organized community.

Well, PvDoor entertains them, so be it. Not going to change now that people have to pay to change their team.

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Its been 5 months and we still cant do something simple like uncheck crafting levels that we unlocked on unactive crafting skills. Which means we get pages of red recipes to scroll through.

Azaruil.3406:

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Spazza.6024:

urzen.7096:

TC exploiting the invulnerable spots. This guy would hang around lowlands kill people and then run back to the spot when he got in any danger. I made sure to emote at him a lot since they like it so much.

It was in SBI boarder lands and you guys kept Zerging lowlands as I was trying to solo cap it (because almost no other TCers were on the map it seemed). And no I didn’t kill anyone the most I would do it Down them because I know its wrong lol. (just ask the SBI people that were there too lol)

You expect me just stand there and let the 20 of you kill me?

You had more than enough time to kill me as I was running from the camp to the spot!

Also on a side note does Arena Net ban for people doing that? If so I am JK that was not me. If they don’t ban yes that was me.

Attacking people from an invulnerable spot is bad sportsmanship.

Telling a solo player that he is unsportsmanlike for not coming out to be farmed by a zerg is insulting.

I wish he would have finished those he downed and then spat in their faces while corpse jumping them.

You probably shouldnt be playing WvW then. No room in the queue for cowards.

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Spazza.6024:

urzen.7096:

TC exploiting the invulnerable spots. This guy would hang around lowlands kill people and then run back to the spot when he got in any danger. I made sure to emote at him a lot since they like it so much.

It was in SBI boarder lands and you guys kept Zerging lowlands as I was trying to solo cap it (because almost no other TCers were on the map it seemed). And no I didn’t kill anyone the most I would do it Down them because I know its wrong lol. (just ask the SBI people that were there too lol)

You expect me just stand there and let the 20 of you kill me?

You had more than enough time to kill me as I was running from the camp to the spot!

Also on a side note does Arena Net ban for people doing that? If so I am JK that was not me. If they don’t ban yes that was me.

Don’t worry about it, I’m actually ashamed my server couldn’t kill you before you got back to the spot, so shame on us lol. Had I been there it would be a different story ;-)
Now that ranger you guys have that was exploiting some bug I’ve never seen (getting multiple cannon shots to the face and instantly refilling hp when no one else was around as well as sending his pet up the wall)….well, ’nuf said about that.

GG though haha

Oh, we killed him. But its still bad form, IMO, to use those spots. If you are going to jump down from your spawn, then fight and die.

Spazza.6024:

urzen.7096:

TC exploiting the invulnerable spots. This guy would hang around lowlands kill people and then run back to the spot when he got in any danger. I made sure to emote at him a lot since they like it so much.

It was in SBI boarder lands and you guys kept Zerging lowlands as I was trying to solo cap it (because almost no other TCers were on the map it seemed). And no I didn’t kill anyone the most I would do it Down them because I know its wrong lol. (just ask the SBI people that were there too lol)

You expect me just stand there and let the 20 of you kill me?

You had more than enough time to kill me as I was running from the camp to the spot!

Also on a side note does Arena Net ban for people doing that? If so I am JK that was not me. If they don’t ban yes that was me.

Attacking people from an invulnerable spot is bad sportsmanship.

TC exploiting the invulnerable spots. This guy would hang around lowlands kill people and then run back to the spot when he got in any danger. I made sure to emote at him a lot since they like it so much.

Cant we all just agree that Arenanet is the real bad guy here? For designing a system which does not balance adequetley, and eventually leads to stale gameplay?

Sixpax.8360:

I do have to say one thing, the OP is spot on with the keep defense complaint. It’s silly that you can’t stand on your own battlements to defend a keep. It completely defies the logic of having a “fortification”. So what do you do to defend your keep? Why you build a catapult in your courtyard and fire it at your own keep doors. Yeah that makes sense.

I stand on the battlements and defend the keep. Switch to bow or rifle, fire down at the enemy. Jump on an arrow cart, ballista, catapult, treb, oil, mortar and fire down at the enemy. Jump down and stab them when they linger to long.

They do need to fix aoe through walls though.

^ this (Hyungs post). If you cant push through the learning curve, then WvW is probably not for you. You will die a lot. You will spend a ton of money on repairs, seige, upgrades. You will run a lot. You will yell at your monitor when you get killed by thieves. And many more frustrations. If you cant get over that, and enjoy the battles you win, then you wont have fun.

Ive already started trying out green color schemes on my armor...

100 blades only sucks vs 1 target. If you are leading the charge into a group you can hundred blade them all. I like to use rush to charge through a zerg to the back where all the softies are, then use invulnerability/fears/stomp, 100 blades, and whirlwind/dodge out. Its a good way to break up their momentum. or cause them to run.

Baby.1405:

3 broken walls on SM.. lollllll

Yeah since BG isnt night capping everything anymore and fully fortifying it, SMC has been changing hands a lot.

TC is hot to take SM, setting up 5 trebs!

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SPQR and others have been holding SM all night against constant trebbing. But who knows what will happen next.

Nice job this week TC. You put up a much better fight that IOJ. If you can figure out how to beat SOR during NA prime, then I think your daytime coverage may carry you to a win eventually.

Of course our BG replacement will mess things up this week.

I would be perfectly ok with eliminating rez from death, or making it so it can only be done out of combat. This would make survival and strategy much more important. I would also put a cooldown on waypointing after death so that it gets longer each time. However, this might actually help the zerg.

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spartanx.1364:

DivineBeing.2086:

I gotta hand it to Choo for killing BG pugs with their portal bomb tactics. Sooner or later, the pugs will learn how to properly counter a completely stationary ball of players.

5 Necros = bye bye ball.
5 Warhammers = bye bye ball.

It works extremely well right now. I recommend to keep on doing it that way our pug’s can learn to counter it now than later in tier 1.

Do you pull your punches on our “Pugs”? Is that some unwritten rule that your never supposed to portal bomb a pug group or something?

What? I think you took what I said wrong. There is no sarcasm at all in my post. I am complimenting your portal bomb strategy as it is working right now. (This next part isn’t sarcasm) I ask that you keep doing it so our pugs learn to counter it now rather than trying to learn in tier 1.

Relax man.

The sarcasm was obvious.

Endorsed. Ive been with SPQR for a couple months now, and we have a large active group of WVW players who kills reds every single night, usually with great success. Leaders are very friendly and organized.

I kind of want TC to win so that SOR can have a different color and spot in EB. Is that wrong?

I kind of want TC to win so that SOR can have a different color and spot in EB. Is that wrong?

Nice rout of both BG and TC in BG BL, fellow SOR. 3 way fight at garrison after being double teamed at bluebriar, then we took both keeps from BG and TC. Well done CHOO and BKSZ and SPQR and others.

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pot.6805:

urzen.7096:

In BG BL, Bg hasnt attacked TC at hills once since reset.

So?

Just stating the facts.

In BG BL, Bg hasnt attacked TC at hills once since reset. We dont mind. Weve been fighting 1v2 for 2 months now. Whats another week.

BG attacking SOR at Bay on one end, while TC attacks SOr at Bluebriar on the other side. Meanwhile they dont attack each other.

The reason I mention is because there are ton of people doing map completion or jumping puzzles or killing deer in WvW when they should be helping us fight. Because when we fight it increases the buffs that the entire world gets, everything from bonuses to harvesting, to crit dmg (see attachment). So next time you in are in WvW doing nothing to help the cause, but taking up a queue spot, please think of the 90% of the time you are off in the world enjoying the bonuses that the rest of us soldiers earned you.

Jahn.7019:

SoR you guys do have a solid NA I must say, I am impressed by the quality of your play and your resiliency. Can’t say about T1, but SoR probably has the best NA of anyone T2 and below, without question.

I think it’s fair to say most servers would have given up after 7 weeks of eating BG coverage.

Heck, probably after even month of it.

Many of us just play for the fun of each battle, and arent worried about the longer term war. We can only play for so many hours, and cant control what goes on when we arent here. So we do the best we can in the time we play, get as many points as we can and then leave it to someone else after we leave. Its not like you get anything for winning WvW anyway.

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SPQr golem rushed ogrewatch and burned it down, took pangloss, but went a bridge too far to Volcheck, which has a ton of seige to take back ogrewatch. Good fun.

SOR takes the lead.