Condition is great from mid range with a semi passive playstyle. The class that can pull agressive conditions have amazing tools at survival. The issue with warr is that we are probably the worst mid range class in the game. They seems to have flagged berserker as a DPS hybrid condi/melee and it doesn’t work with warrior cause we need to go full offensive to be effective with bare to nothing survivability.
If they want this to work they either need to buff our survivability or give use the OMFGQQ close range fire/dps damage that burn to death everything under 300 range. Kinda like a fire ring that would be up as long as your in berserker form. Then every actions/people you burn with it could feed the intensity of that fire ring and allow it to stay for a while after the zerk form is off. This could give warrior some mid range pressure and an interesting gameplay and a reason to get into zerker form and perform well.
Making the berserker the ultimate close range could be viable but it would need the best damage of all class in that range or rework the whole base warrior class.
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Berserker is catching up but still weaker than base warrior and base warrior is still pretty average.
How can you ask for revenant buff on hammer when hammer is currently stronger than warrior hammer as ever been including the warrior faceroll golden era?
Headbutt is not that great. Range is horrendous I do think you will get more adrenaline from signet passive than that in the end.
Great comment but he also forgot about warrior sprint. If you wanna survive now this is mandatory.
He is right we are being outgunned by everything in every roles.(Minus war banner…) Have Anet looked at revenant hammer or the elite spec? This thing is super powerful, can one shoot glass canon from range, they all have super low cooldown on top of that they have great tool to survive. they are better melee train than warrior never been at 1200 range while bringing crazy support. WTH ?!?!?
Yesterday buff is not what this class need. I agree zerker line is now decent and can replace strength line but it doesnt fix anything this class needs. Warrior can’t survive enough for a class that as to be in your face in melee and on top of that other class can simply shut us up as Shinryuku said. What is the point on giving us MOAR damage when we are simply blind, dazed, chilled, CCed, blocked, etc… to oblivion. Giving us an option to have shield master and Dogged march would be a great start. Merge thick skin with dogged march as minor. Give us some synergy, give us a trait that allow us to share our block or protect others as of right now we are a selfish class that is too weak on is own.
Revenant have trait that reduce damage the further they are. Why not give the opposite to warrior? Reduce damage/conditions the closest you are from the source of the damage? Why not share this to other melee around us if they are scared it would be OP for solo warr? Make it stackable. Reward us for being in melee and stop feeding the pirate ship meta. Our damage is completely muted , our support is now super weak, and survivability is laughable.
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I tried it and I agree this is lazy change. They tried to fix it the easy way and it bring nothing more. It add damage yeah but lack utility and synergy other class have.
They don’t want to fix that. They just did that to mute us.
Tested it I don’t like that. I agree Anet as no idea what to do with this. This was a lazy change. When you compared to what other class bring this is a freaking joke.
They hope this would mute us and get over it but they have no idea what to do.
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Bloody roar and Always angry 17 % more damage. I like that always angry seem to buff you when you get out of berserker form so as normal warr your not totally kitten. It should be always up if you rotate your form.
I’m curently downloading the 64 bit client. Will test the berserker buff soon.
Thanks Anet for the buff. I would liked a bit more communication =P
I guess they will have to do something. There are warrior thread everywhere.
You forgot scrapper and revenant. I would personally buff the lower tier than nerfing everyone.
Nope no reason. Some people are trying really hard to make this work but without buff to warr/nerf to other elite spec we are still bottom tier of elite spec.
You can make it work. But at best you will be barely equal to vanilla warrior.
There might be a cap to fire shield. That would be great if they remove the cap. Having a almost perma fire shield could be great for a berserker. Since you can reduce the torch skill cooldown with the trait to 20 seconds.
The Souls game are my favorite game ever. I own PS3 DS2, PC DS2 with all expansion and the PS4 version…..
I usually stop leveling at level 120-125 and keep playing to NG++++ My main quality build character as like 15 million unused souls in case I decide I should level him.
I really liked bloodborne the feeling of your character is amazing. My big issue was the gun in PvP and I hope the expansion will fix that. I was wishing for pistol for warr elite spec. I wished I could use Sword/Pistol and GS or Hammer just like in bloodborne.
I could beat all boss without healing in the first Dark Soul minus the 4 kings.
Traps need to be nerfed because there are no counter play to it. It’s invisible and unblockable and hit kinda hard.
I personally think we should be able to see thems like thief smoke field. If I get in I’m the only one to blame.
Isnt there sweet irony that most people rate scrapper on a good secound when it comes to strongest pvp profession right now, yet you guys think you are “Above warrior atleast”.
That is some laughable kitten right there.
What makes other professions out there better then you?
This is a syndrome most OP class develop when they hit upper tier.
You should get around 20 sec. How much do you get?
The gameplay feels less sharp of late. The worst I got was in EB and it’s prolly because of lag. Time to bring the conditions cap back :P
I was praying that pistol would have been the weapon of our new elite spec 4 months ago.
Simply reskin EB and add some new strategic points.
Don’t simply add the old BL with the new BL in the same match up cause the server with the old BL will be hammered. Everybody will queue for that map.
is that me or the lag in WvW as never been worst as of late?
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Still no answer? :P They should all be back from vacation soo. Tried to roam on my vanilla warrior. Make me sad all class got some pretty cool tools. I barely log lately. I lost the will to PvE, I had fun is Spvp and in WvW really dislike the new BL.
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He also made chronomancer. My guess is that he either ran out of time or idea. He/they might be on vacation this week. I’m also a game developer and I understand how you feel post launch.
It’s just with a MMO there is really no end.
Will watch the stream later but tks for resuming. 
I don’t expect them to be balanced right away and I’m fine with that as long as they fix it within a reasonable amount of time. Berserker need some love.
I have been trying/fighting revenant. I admit they are strange to fight at first they feels kinda gimmicky. I feel like you can easily get used to them and easily counter.
Might be early.
I’m currently watching the last Shinryuku stream on youtube. It’s really sad.
It’s spreading outside of the warrior forums Lol. There is a thread in the Spvp and here now. I wonder how long until someone post something about this.
I want PvE mastery to stay in PvE and WvW direly needs new ones.
If you wants WvW mastery just freaking play WvW.
I agree with you all. Before buffing berserker they needs to address the base warrior dependency to our 2 big trait line. Or they will face the same issue on future elite spec.
IMO take what the base warrior needs from the traits, buff the base warrior with it and reduce the traits gain so that it balance out. This will open build diversity and then they can change berserker. I guess they will either nerf all elite of buff all basic class so they are on equal if they are serious about esport
Bump. This needs to stay up, maybe one day Anet will read it !
They have already read all of this. I think they gonna go nerf all other class until they even with base warrior then they gonna do something for zerker.
Pre expansion base warrior was mid to high tier across all game mode.
Thank you. New WvW mastery would be welcome it`s been a while since we had anything new.
I was able to solo a few of them on my warrior. I remember soloing the alien looking one with the exploding spawn(Easy), the golem with heal-0-tron(Very hard) and another one. All fight were super close timer wise, I had under 15-40 sec left on timer and took me 1-2 try to succeed.
I just discovered the third map and not going super fast. I really like exploring the PvE map. They are really great. I`m a WvWer guy and the new BL are not fun at all and the berserker elite is really bad so this is all I got for now.
I tried to run some rage skill for fun while roaming on vanilla warrior. While I don’t hate headbut it’s kinda fun there are few reason to take that over Signet/banner/Rampage.
They should just release those new masteries with WvW masteries. My WvW masteries are not applied in PvE?
If superboy prime can punch through time and make a portal so are rampage warrior. :P
It’s a videogame anything is possible.
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I didn’t minded the grind since I had 0 interest in unlocking the berserker elite spec. I dont like the new BL/upgrade system but I like the new PvE map visually and the verticality.
I honestly don’t mind a bit of grind I come from EQ/FFXI.
It would have been simple to take the old BL and add a fresh coat of paint, reskin it and add a few new tactical siege location. The new Shield generator siege is enough to spice things up by quite a lot. I barely WvW if I’m not in EB and I spend over 4500 hours in WvW over the last 3 years. All that auto upgrade feel less involving.
This is way too big and over designed. It seems they don’t know anything about finding beauty in simplicity.
Was chatting with guild chat yesterday and he asked how could the make it worst. I told him wait for the underwater dragon expansion and the new underwater Borderland.
He come here and get sad. Then they go to necro/mesmer forum and he forget about this dark and sad place :P
I would probably do the same. hehe
It’s a bit like after you cleaned your room and your happy then you look in your wardrobe or under your bed to find 2-3 years worth of hoarding.
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They should just add fast hand, warrior sprint and burst mastery as minor berserker trait and making transform get stronger depending on adrenaline level so it can be used at any stage.
I’m kidding :P
To me they should be equal to normal class just add build variation.
I was personally hoping for pistol as new weapon back then. I was playing Bloodborne a lot and liked the idea of Sword/Pistol and GS or Sword/Pistol hammer. Pistol/Shield and GS could have looked cool.
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You spend at best 50% of the fight as a kitten version of your former self and when you pop berserker you are barely stronger… Most berserker burst are meh minus 1 or 2.
Your normal self is very weak compared to vanilla warrior. Can`t use your burst cause you building up for berserker. You are also lacking an important trait line. No proc of cleansire Ire, No berserker power. You have to build adrenaline and survive for 15 seconds in that normal form. Head butt should be super good but is not that great since it can be easily avoided, blinded and it as a very weak range.
Thanks for posting it. It’s really sad how it show how this is not worth much for thems. They are the only one who can add depth to that class and visibly they are not interested. It show well that this elite spec was for him simply an afterthought.
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I have the feeling that they want to make those BL work with mega servers. It’s way too huge for the current WvW pop.
2500 HP isn’t the same on all class. 2500 HP on a thief/guard/mesmer is worth a ton more than on other classes.
My current issue is that they want to allow the PvE mastery effect in WvW(Ex: Autoloot). Last time I checked my siege mastery from WvW don’t apply in the PvE siege.
They should add WvW mastery trait variation of those PvE trait. If they ever implement Glider in WvW I don’t want the PvE mastery to affect those. I want our own masteries.
I think this isn’t fair.
It’s not balanced if it’s weaker than it original class. The goal is that both are equal and offer build diversity.
This is what Rytlock did.
I’m mind blown that they failed to make and elite spec out of such an basic class. Warrior were probably the easiest class to give new tools. My personal guess is that they ran out of idea after reaper and chrono.
I get from where you are coming from. I actually haven’t seen a Berserker anywhere yet.
I’d be a bit angry myself if Chronmancer wasn’t awesome like it is. Lucky for me that it is. But the point of elite specs wasn’t to outshine the original class. Not from what I understood.
This is what they said in a stream. At least they succeeded on that with warrior.
I don’t get why Anet so scared to give some power to warrior. If it’s because it’s a “simple” class they should just release an elite class with a bit of depth.
I have been playing Witcher 3 of late. The control change really made the game great. The Bloodborne expansion is less than a month away
Yeah we are getting ignored and this is not fun at all. We had no post since last BWE. They do read the forums since he fixed the bow issue.
This is a joke, this gotta be….
We have been nerfed everytime other class were whining. Right now I bought and expansion and I have nothing to look at.
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