Guild Wars 2

Diashame.6328:

This would be solved if they modified points distribution to be always positive if you win, always negative if you loose. The amount of points you gain would be effected by your current rating as similar to now.

This makes a lot of sense. If you aren’t winning by the margin your rating predicts, then you should gain a tiny tiny amount of rating. But you should still gain. Winning and losing rating doesn’t make sense.

Kentimetre.9025:

ykyk.2740:

TC’s NA population probably comes close to outnumbering the other T3 servers combined. But we also have the weakest oceanic coverage in the tier, which is a big part holding us back from getting the needed ratings to push out of T3. It’s also the reason why we will probably get rolled in T2 against servers that can match our numbers in prime time and absolutely demolish us in off time.

In my opinion as an FA Oceanic, we only seemed to outnumber TC during the fist week at oceanic coverage which can be attributed to the Lost Shores event. Other than that, even during the FA/TC/YB match of last week we had outmanned in EB at night and TC could launch an assault with 25~people on FABL whilst we defended with 30~ and TC could have 15 people in TCBL as well holding supply camps. You aren’t strong in any means during Oceanic, but you certainly aren’t weak.

I see alot of TC saying they’ll get smashed by T2 but you haven’t fought BG for a while and you got smashed by SoR because the third server was HoD (I think). Which was the same scenario as when TC smashed FA with ET as the third server. And FA is certainly somewhat competitive with TC still.

FA actually has a decent japanese population (I’m guessing by the JPN tags and assortment of japanese guild names) during that time period and they are quite a force to be reckoned with if they show up in numbers. TC’s presence during that time period is very erratic – sometimes we can muster up enough to hold on to what we have, other times we are outmanned on both maps we have any presence on (just 2 days ago, if I recall). Fortunately for us, our weak timing lasts only a short portion of the day and the rest of the time we heavily outnumber the competition, leading to the scores we’ve been seeing the past…2 months?

FA is definitely competitive with TC when the numbers are even. It’s a shame that doesn’t happen all too often.

TC’s NA population probably comes close to outnumbering the other T3 servers combined. But we also have the weakest oceanic coverage in the tier, which is a big part holding us back from getting the needed ratings to push out of T3. It’s also the reason why we will probably get rolled in T2 against servers that can match our numbers in prime time and absolutely demolish us in off time.

I hope those on the TC side can put a close to this little episode. We’ve had our fun, and the scoreboard and screenshots speak for themselves. There’s no need to beat on this dead horse and poison the matchup any further. I always thought of tier 3 as one of the most calm and mature tiers compared to the others, and we’re currently veering further and further from that by the minute.

applause

heretofore, indeed.

Alright, fiasco’s over.

A part of FA decided to bite off more than they can chew, and then gloat about it. The other servers reacted in kind, and FA is the scapegoat for the time being. Things will return to normal. There’s nothing more to this and there doesn’t need to be any more.

Well, it was a nice excuse to paint the map green and blue. Let’s not take it too far though, the mood is getting real toxic in here.

Derv The Monkinator.4915:

TIMMEH.8106:

Yes your awesome “TC we have a new strategy…ZERG them with overwhelming numbers, that worked!”

you were in first place before…..and still are

This statement is a win. All TC does is zerg. They can’t portal bomb, they can’t build siege effectively, they can’t invis spike, they can’t stack might, they cant timewarp a group, and they have 0 tactical ability. When they fail to the point of exhaustion, they just have some guy drop, litterally, 100’s of golems and ZERG. They’d get PWNED in Tier 2. They should be thanking us for stopping them from going there to get ROFLSTOMPED.

41 Golems = dead. Bite me TC.

Well…

FA can’t get points.

ZING

Diehard.1432:

If you TCs could convince your commander to focus on FA at oceanic time. I will try to convince ours to do the same ( I am oceanic player). This should be fun

In general TC spends oceanic time cowering in our corner hoping we don’t lose everything to CD. But I’m sure our guys can take a hint if there is a change of dynamics

Waffler.1257:

phaneo.4597:

As I wrote in my post, we all have our weak timeslots. TC is weaker during Oceanic primetime, but stronger during NA primetime. I guess I’m writing this fact for the 10th time in this matchup. Rolls eyes

Was funny for a moment when I saw [outmanned] on TCBL after seeing the same thing on EB a few minutes before that.

Anyway, worry not! Next week other two servers can roll all over TCBL when most of us are busy grinding Wintersday content. Atleast during weekend, we definitely won’t be able to secure the heavy lead that we usually been having for the past 1 month. And I’m not sure if we can pull ahead during the rest of the week given the fact that the event will last for quite a long time, unless most of us get bored of the event.

Yep, to my fellow CD players and FA players, even if we win or improve during the next few weeks it doesn’t mean anything because the entire TC WvW population experiences a much larger drop during events compared to CD and FA. This makes perfect sense because everyone knows that there is a correlation between players who RP and players who quit playing WvW during events with an r-squared of 1.0.

Actually, TC’s strength is in its pug militia/numbers. We have a large population (being a full server), but most of it isn’t dedicated to WvW. When you see TC move around, how many guild tags do you see? Tons. TC has much fewer “dedicated” WvW guilds and those that we have don’t field nearly the numbers that our counterparts do. Therefore, while obviously every server will be hit population-wise by events, TC’s pug-majority WvW population gets hit even harder. It’s really obvious from our history of matchups – in particular vs FA during Lost Shores weekend where TC was at one point last place during the event weekend. There’s also our performance against SoR during halloween week, but they are a much stronger server than us anyway so I guess you can’t really conclude much from that week.

I hope nobody takes what we are saying as some pre-emptive excuse for whatever happens during event timings, not that we have anything to prove.

We could all take ruminant tonics and run as a herd of dolyaks.

We have our weak times as well – ask CD’s oceanic force. Yesterday we were outmanned on the only 2 maps we had any presence on for a good few hours.

Obviously the fact that we are leading by such a margin indicates that we have an overall numbers advantage, but it’s not like we lead zergs 24/7. Some of us have to play on times where both servers take turns essentially crapping on us.

Yak’s is a great server. They put up a great showing in T3 despite having easily the lowest population out of TC/CD/FA/YB, and they make their numbers count. Looking forward to your return to T3 with more population to bring the pain!

Score update:

CD making full use of their strongest timing, how long can TC hold this time?

…and how do you propose Anet “fix” your own addiction?

You are fighting for a meaningless number and empty “pride”. If you aren’t enjoying it then you are no longer playing a game, but working a job that pays only in lost sleep and no social life.

Work in some screenshots too!

Hilarious fireworks vid

Because everyone knows that if you are moving in a group and you catch a lone straggler, you have to send one guy to duel with him one on one to show SKILL. If you instead do the obvious thing and kill the straggler before moving on then the entire group has no SKILL and the straggler is entitled to do whatever he sees fit.

Or, you know, some people just can’t take deaths very well.

You can just transfer and get it, and wait a week to come back if you are that desperate.

And TC fights in the other borderlands all the time, but when the tier is fairly evenly matched you don’t just randomly roll over enemy borderlands and get POIs. If you are that concerned about it and don’t want to switch servers, rally some like minded people and get those POIs the intended way – by WvWing.

No I remember seeing this EXACT post like a few hours ago…either there’s some hardcore deja vu going on or his old thread got deleted and he just made an exact some one with a slightly different title.

Didn’t you make this exact thread like half a day ago

Raven Paradox.1860:

Peetee.9406:

Raven Paradox.1860:

It’s time to bring Tarnished Coast in here. They may not be as good as SoR, but like SoR they don’t give up.

Now what would make you think that?

We fought TC. They had no chance of winning that week but were there until reset the entire time. These guys don’t give up. They’re just not as good as SoR. Not to embarass them… but… 36 alphas, 5 omegas vs 1 pot of oil….

Most of us at TC have no illusion of being able to compete with the established tier 2 servers (there is a basic coverage gap, even before we consider anything like skill or experience which we also lack in comparison with the higher tiers), but please don’t use the 41 golem rush as a gauge of how we do things – that was a joke and executed as such =D

Diehard.1432:

etrigan.4213:

CD is our best skilled opponent since Mag and DB.

I was mad that you guys took Bay in your borderlands last night lol.

We just ran out of people at the end of the night in EST.

Not sure how to respond to this. We’re called “mindless zerg” by both Mag and DB

CD has 2 distinctive playstyles. When the numbers are uneven in tier 4 it’s easy for them to only notice the group of players with the not-so-pretty playstyle, but here we notice both.

I won’t be too worried, a formal 2v1 is likely never going to happen. And even if a decently strong informal alliance was somehow established, TC is almost certainly never going to drop to tier 4 as things stand. God help the tier 4 servers if we do.

In other news, some heavy invasion of TC lands by both servers and great action all around. Keep it up!

Sunspots.9861:

That’s a bit of a misquote above me… It wasn’t me who said that… I just wondered if yaks missed t3 competition.

They sure do! We give out free badges!

Then again the points seem to reflect that they want to stay in tier 4. Push harder guys! More badges await you from us ^__^

It managed to cull half of my allies when we were in our own keep…no enemies anywhere near. When we were on the move it was impossible to even tell where our own people were, or how many we had.

And the lag, oh the lag.

You know what, forget anything bad I said about CD.

TC on EB just did a random kitten 6-golem attack on QL with zero communication on the map…a commander (I will not name) simply sat in LL, built up all 6, waited for some people to show up and then moved off. Throughout all this there were people on map chat discussing class balance, oblivious to this attack because there was no communication at all. The only thing this commander said was one “we are attacking QL” on the way there (before that we didn’t even know where we were going). We then promptly wiped because we didn’t nearly have enough, and because no one had a clue what was going on. Golems were made, golems died, and the merry chat on class balance continued as if nothing happened.

I hope that entertained whatever CD were defending.

In that spirit, I saw no less than THREE flame ram build sites during an incursion into Stonemist yesterday (the server shall remain unnamed) – at a wall. There were 2 placed where you would normally put a catapult, and then one on top of our wall after they broke in. I sadly did not have the presence of mind to take a screenshot, but I’m guessing someone was being deeply confused about which blueprint is the one that shoots rocks.

I definitely mean no offense, I was just generalizing based on timezones. So when I say “asian zerg” I refer to the group who plays on FA/TC’s off-timing, or 8pm-12am GMT+8 period. I’ll not name guilds, but my constructive feedback is that that group plays like they know they will outnumber and overpower the enemy eventually…which they do, because they outnumber the enemy at least 3 to 1, but after playing against FA and YB for 3 weeks…let’s just say there’s room for improvement?

Example is reset night on EB, during GMT+8 afternoon period when TC still had numbers to fill the map, there was a 2-3 hr period where CD and FA were non-stop attacking TC’s area (both rogue and gol were fully sieged up and every single tower we had was contested), yet we held without losing a single tower mainly because the bulk of CD’s forces had honestly no idea how to attack. I saw 6 catapults go up nearly undefended and get wiped before the wall even dropped 10%, I saw a catapult go up in range of a counter-catapult that have just destroyed your old catapults, and I saw 4 catapult blueprints get dropped simultaneously, all 4 get half-built, and then all 4 get destroyed by random TC walking by because there weren’t people covering the buildsites…The highlight was when a CD army of 30 rolled into rogues, took it and sieged it up hard – we’re talking 2 superior arrow carts, 2 superior ballistas and then a couple more normal siege. After 5-10 minutes, we poke in and realize the camp was abandoned. That entire zerg left a fully sieged up camp to do god knows what, and they only came back to roll like 5 of us who just walked in and mopped up 5+ pieces of unmanned siege equipment by ourselves.

I know that even in this tier, your asian prime time population greatly outnumber the rest and even playing as they do, will eventually take over most of the map…but for the benefit of everyone it would be great to see them fix the “we have lots, keep throwing stuff till their walls break!” mentality.

So someone made a mistake and put down the wrong blueprint. Some people didn’t think to click on the blueprint to check before building. Woah, the whole server must be a bunch of scrubs!

Classy topic, would read again.

Relentliss.2170:

Sunspots.9861:

So is it fun in that matchup Yaks, or do you miss t3?

Been fun so far. Getting lots of badges. The only server I collected this many from are those scrubs from TC.

I wish I could make a snappy retort to protect our wounded SERVER PRIDE, but we saw so little of you guys that I definitely can’t say the same about badges =(

Glad the chest thumpers are coming out when you start facing easier competition! The scrubs at TC welcome you guys back anytime ^__^

The lower tiers don’t have the manpower to fully contest multiple maps, it’s usually as simple as that.

In tier 3 back when it was TC/YB/FA none of the servers had enough during oceanic prime to fill more than 2 maps (FA is the closest, but they usually focus on EB too), so every night around that time the maps are all 3 borderlands belonging to their respective servers and then a rough 3-way split in EB. When population picks up other maps begin to get contested.

Bones.5762:

Bunzy.8674:

ryan.3915:

Bones.5762:

It’s nice waking up to even maps, so glad it’s not all one color, looks to be a good fight, keep it clean guys, was kind of upset at how many hackers CD had, i know they aren’t all like that but they had ALOT of them which made it that much worst.

Probably as much as has been reported for Maguuma eh?

Why are CD still commenting on a match up that has nothing to do with them.. go back to your own thread.

They just mad they can’t zerg to win against TC.

They can…during their prime time anyway.

Braxxus.2904:

etrigan.4213:

Seems like your coverage sort of disappears during the week. :P

Yup.
We’ve been punching above our population for a long time.

Full credit to Yak’s for their meteoric rise to T3 and staying there for a good 3 weeks while being clearly outnumbered by the other servers.

I think most of us at TC would love to fight you guys again, something I cannot guarantee for CD >_> Well, take a good rest in T4, build up some morale, and hope to see you guys again. /salute!

It’s like people can’t understand the INTENTION of having a 1v1v1 is so that the top server has to face two others, potentially ganging up on you because you know, you are on top.

Boggles the mind.

So, in one of the great inexplicable moves of mystery, Yak’s sends 20 to TCBL to annoy us while TC was invading FABL, losing their own keep in FABL in the process.

Whatever works, I guess o_O

So your solution to having T1 being dominated by one stacked server is to continue to stack the stacked server.

So other people eventually give up and go elsewhere because it’s obvious they can’t compete with said server, and then the server itself gives up because nobody wants to play with them anymore. Hmm, where have I heard this before?

Eh, rivalry is cool but sometimes it becomes outright silly bickering, and then it’s not cool anymore =(

Well, if you do it to us over at Tarnished Coast we’ll hold a party in your honor!

melodyca.8921:

Hey Anvil Rock!!!

Placing Siege Rams over Supply Camps??? You are already in the freaking lead.
What more do you freaking want?

And here is the proof

The tag on one of your members guarding the rams was “SDS”

So much for your integrity. LOL

They are capping their own siege, not yours.

It’s obviously to poke fun because the match is effectively over. No need to be mad.

And even if they could somehow affect your siege, it’s not like any of the other servers can have enough of a foothold on any map to even approach the siege cap. So it’ doesn’t even matter. Stop flipping out at everything the enemy does.

Iohanna.4863:

If we keep this up, the Toast must seriously consider the possibility of entering Tier 2 after next week’s match up.

Either we attempt to artificially keep our score lower than Isle of Janthir to stay in Tier 3, or we start mass recruiting across PvE to provide additional coverage.

Or we take our kitten handing in tier-2 and hope we learn something out of it

TC’s hole during oceanic times is too immense. We can barely fill one map. No amount of pve recruiting will fix that, especially when we are losing. It’s the main reason why among the so-called 7 full pop servers TC will likely remain in 7th spot.

MrKnieves.4162:

LOL!

So much promise, and gold, to die so fast!

Gotta give it to Mag, they owned us bad! But it was fun as hell! Thank you whoever donated all those golems!

So where’s the rest of the golems? xD

This doesn’t even make sense. Why just India? Why does the number 1 server need help?

Been on my server since the start and saw it go through all its ups and downs. So yes.

I’m sure many from my server will echo my sentiments as well.

Deathdom.8250:

ykyk.2740:

CD lost players actually. They were tier 3/occasional tier 2 before the huge reshuffle – the first time TC met CD in tier 3 about 2 months back TC were soundly defeated. CD then lost a bunch that dropped them to tier “3.5”. Tier 4 is the lowest they’ve ever been I believe.

We were actually tier 2 though the weakest one. It seemed like we were more tier 3 simply because there were 4 tier 1 servers at the time which meant 1 would always be in tier 2 stomping. And as the weakest Tier 2, that meant we were always the one that went down.

I wouldn’t know for sure, TC were climbing up from tier…5? during that period. I think CD was the first major brick wall we hit (not counting Dragonbrand right at the start) on our way up. Point is CD were definitely a victim of transfers, though I think you guys have also been getting some reinforcements lately with the tier 4 wins so who knows what will happen when you revisit tier 3.

Which tier are you looking at? NA or EU?

CD lost players actually. They were tier 3/occasional tier 2 before the huge reshuffle – the first time TC met CD in tier 3 about 2 months back TC were soundly defeated. CD then lost a bunch that dropped them to tier “3.5”. Tier 4 is the lowest they’ve ever been I believe.

Keep in mind that FA was actually holding the lead at the end of the previous 2 weekends, and a fairly sizable one at that on the lost shores weekend. Morale issues are probably creeping in facing the same matchup and (likely) outcome for the third week in a row, which is really a pity because FA/TC/YB is the close to the best match possible at this tier (you can make a case for FA/YB/CD, but that matchup won’t happen in the near future barring a mass transfer).

Edit: Dominating is worse than losing. When you are losing you can go out and find things to do. When the map is all yours there is only waiting. And RPing.

I don’t see the irony, nor do I see any shenanigans =(

Most of us know we will lose badly in T2, too. If we were really pulling shenanigans, we’ll be throwing as hard as possible to avoid gaining points, but I don’t think we are doing that. If playing as hard as we always do gets us to tier 2 where we get promptly destroyed, so be it. We’ll come out of it stronger

I’ll just say that while people say YB are strong at defense and FA aren’t, I’ve been on the wrong end of plenty of attempts into FA territory as well. When FA actually commit to defense they do it extremely well – whenever it seems FA is being weak on defense it generally means they aren’t even attempting, rather than being poor at it. For example the few times we have wiped FA borderlands is simply because FA chose to vacate the map. That is a problem because at least to TC, defense wins the war and that general mindset is reflected in our play.

This thread is flowing with so much love.

As an encouraging thought to hopefully all involved, CD has a chance of moving up a bracket next week. If that happens, Fort Aspenwood will most likely be the server replacing CD in tier 4. Fresh faces for all!