Guild Wars 2

I think the change for epi was ok/ needed, but I don’t get why it has to be a projectile?

Since it’s unblockable (read: unreflectable) there’s no big point in making infectious orbs. I always imagined some kind of a “wave” from the patient zero. Imagine Bersi from the molten boss frac (edit: or unholy feast). Heck you could even make it jump-able. Resultuing in a nerf against players and wouldn’t bother PvE

pro: no confusion with unblockable projectiles, no body block, still dodgeable/ avoidable, more reliable against AI, more dangerous the nearer you are to patient zero,..
cons: none, of course.. i’m a genius:D

castlemanic.3198:

Important:

Multiple levels of difficulty for all instanced content without removing enemy abilities or story elements from easier difficulties (or adding them to harder difficulties)

Reworking mastery attainability and leveling to allow casual players to achieve them more easily (especially the extrapolating xp curve for higher masteries, god what a pain) same for acquiring elite specs in the future

Casual friendly ascended and legendary gear acquirement, along with lore for legendary gear (and to expand, providing a FULL set of achievable legendary gear through any form of gameplay [a full set would include weapons, armour and backpiece] with all legendaries retaining the ability to swap stats and best quality stats too) seriously, more stuff like Caladbolg except legendary with more requirements and less fancy graphics so that the hardcore can be happy with their unique shinies

The ability for casual players to access ALL LORE through gameplay and not story recaps (other suggestions hint at this, but seriously this is a godkitten requirement, LET ME PLAY THROUGH ALL OF THE STORY AS A CASUAL, including raids, explorable dungeons and fractals)

Profession lore for every profession AND additional lore for each elite spec, whether current or future ones

Yes please!
That was one of my favourite things in GW1. I started years after my best frriend but after reaching lvl 20 (lol) and “grinding” for a few skills he was able to take me anywhere. Yes he had the fissure armore, the chaos gloves and the pain weapons. Yes I was jealous and wanted them too but I was never left out and could do any content with him or others. This is totally new-player-friendly and helps getting started.

Functionality should be accessable for everyone in a appropriate manner. Shiny/ Sparkly/ whatever can stay for the “hardcore” players. Since it is fashion wars they will have the same if not more attention!

Also the rest what you said! I’d love to have lore-based quests for the new E-Specs.

@ Dadnir:
Yes you are right. It’s a bit incoherent, but the title was only a joke refering to riads. Basically an E-Spec which could bring necros into raids =P.

About the cultist. I imagined a cult or sect worshipping some dark magic to gain more power in the fight against the elder dragons. This “entity” grants it’s most loyal followers to transform into a shadow of otself ("Vampire Lord or sth.). I know there could be better things – I’m open for ideas. I thought about demon, but there’s Revenant already. And with a bit of lifesiphoning Vampire was my first take.

@Oldirtbeard:
I totally thought about totems, but did’nt want to create a nwe skill-class. So I took banners but would visually change them into some kind of totems. Think of impaled skulls drippling eith blood. (Just as Vlad the Impaler :P) I like the mechanic of keeping them “alive” by dmg.

And for the burn: I always wanted dhuumfire to work. And get away from the typicall poison necro. But you are right. Next elder dragon is Primordus with it’s minions beeing immune to burn:D

Utility Skills: Banners

This banners are unique to not step on the warriors toes and stick with the debuffing theme of the necro. Therefore banners affect foes not allies (exept heal banner)

• Banner of Vampirism (heal)
  Heal yourself. Allies affected by this banner steal life on critical hits.
• Banner of infamy
  Foes affected by this banner suffer from +50% condi duration
• Banner of malice
  Foes affected by this banner take 5 % more dmg
• Banner of Unholyness
  Boonduration on affected foes is reduces by 50%
• Banner of the undead
  When a foe dies under the effects of this banner. He creates a skelleton that fights for you for 10 seconds.
• Demoralizing Banner (Elite)
  Knocks down enemies and pulses Weakness and Slow.

Traits

• 1- Cultist
  Gain acces to torch, banners and Vampiric shroud

• 1.1 – Leadership
  Gain increased expertise while wileding a torch. Torch skills recharge faster.
• 1.2 – Dark Haste
  Gain Quickness when you enter shroud. The duration depends on your Lifeforce
• 1.3- spitefull removal
  Removing or Corrupting a boon deals additional damage

• 2 – Overflow
  LF generation heals you if your LF is full

• 2.1 – Banners of Hell
  Summoning a banner inflicts burning in the area. Reduce Cooldown.
• 2.2 – Vampire Lord
  Lifesteal is doubled in Shroud
• 2.3 – Proof of faith
  Using a boonstrip on a foe without boons knocks them down instead.

• 3 – Thrill of Victory
  Increase dmg if you have more boons than your foe.

• 3.1 – Send them to hell
  Killing a foe triggers a firenova burning nerby foes. Increase burnduration
• 3.2 – Aftermath
  The effects of your shroud (+ X% dmg) lasts for 10 seconds when you leave shroud.
• 3.3 – Destructive Burden
  Inflicting a condition does dmg.

I think there might be some cool synergies with other traits. Because of the fast Shroud AA, and the other burns from the traits, a burn/ bleed necro with dhuumfire could be a thing. Or you go down the power line. With Destructive burden + unyielding blast + dhuumfire and the shroud buff itself you can do high direct damage.

Hi everyone,

I came up with another E-Spec idea for the necro, simply because I was bored I tried to make both a power and condi variant.
This time I tried to make a “viable” raid E-Spec so we may be taken to raids. I tried to create an E-Spec where you actually benefit from staying in shroud or bring back shroud flashing. To be considered in raids, raw damage isn’t enough. We need to offer something special to the party. And not boons! Because they are mostly covered. Sure you could think of some kind of copy-cat PS to take his role.. But I wanted to steal something else: BANNERS. This could results in an slightly overpowerd spec and definitly in powercreep. So while I would like something like this as a playstyle, I think it is unhealthy for the game itself.

As everytime, I didn’t go into numbers just the concept/ ideas about skills and traits.

The cultist (name still in progress)
Weapon: Torch
Skills: Banners
Mechanic: Vampiric Shroud.

Vampiric Shroud
The Cultist gives in to the dark magic within and becomes a shadow of a Vampire Lord. He fights with shadowy claws and fast attacks and boosts the necormancer (+ X% damge) but doesn’t replace the helath anymore. LF only dertemines the duration of your transformation. Therefore there’s no LF-generating skills inside the shroud.

Skills:

• 1- Auto attack chain
  atack your foes with shadowy claws in melee
• 2- Pursuit
  Teleport to target area blinding and burning foes at destination. Stunbreak
• 3- hynosis / terror-gaze
  taunt nearby foes / fear nearby foes
• 4- Bat-Shelter
  Channeled 3s invulnarability with bats around character that inflict bleeding.
• 5- Dust Veil
  Block for X seconds and Steal live if you block.

Weapon: torch

As a weapon I sticked to the torch for more burning access and it fitted the “sect/ cult” theme. Although I’d like to see a 1h-sword which would fit the Vampire(lord) theme better.

• 4- Hellgate
  Dmg the area with flames from beneath the ground. Fire field
• 5- Sacrifire
  burn your foe and remove up to 3 boons. Release a flameburst which burns enemies for each removed boon.

Like the idea of a support-necromancer while maintainng the “dark” characteristics
Also your e-spec made me think that torch (your oh-axe-skills could also be done with torch) won’t be toooo bad

Some of my thoughts, if you are interested:

The idea of a passive but also active party buff (shrouded killers) is really cool! It is really strong (so maybe it should be a major not a minor trait?) BUT in comparisson with GotL I would say it’s not broken.

The vampiric retaliation is cool too – you could think of it working like retaliation/ signet of vampirism instead. Being hit while under the effect siphones health. Would be more the “if you hit me you’ll have a bad time”-theme of retaliation and won’t overlap with vampiric presence f.e.

I like the pacts! This mechanic is already in game – hammer fractal (I know you had this in mind, din’t you? ). The elite could get an positiv effect while active, like crit damage or reduced incoming condiduration or … ?

But I’m not sure about the overall theme of the pacts tbh… they could use kind of a supportive character too. (But maybe you wanted them to be more selfish in balance with the support-mechanic -than it’s your design and it’s fine). I think I would have gone into the support-y way Like orders from gw1.

Allies do more dmg/ have higher cirt-dmg/ … for each hit you suffer 1% HP
Reduce incoming condi duration on allies/ condis on you last longer

I would like to see these benefits not as boons so the necro could offer something unique. It would change the debuffer to a buffer wihile keeping the necromatic-theme.
There’s still the option to “cancel” the pacts/ orders for an other effect – this one could be selfish or a PbAoE for example.

I could see a really cool BM/ SR/ Warlock -Support Necro. It’s about buffing the dmg and keeping your allies alive without beeing an active “healer” spec like druid. Not sure weather it would be viable but could be fun to play. Nice synergies with wells for example.

Hi, trying to make it to the event!

I take #18 please

- Akki Styr

I also think that the skills and traits need more rework than just adjusting the numbers. I like quite a few of your ideas and toss in mine
We lack groupe-utility to be considert as other classes (warri, ranger, etc.). Some unique mechanisms that allow to increase the damage of the whole group. And with adjusting skills/ traits to improve the team it won’t break the class in other game modes, cause your personal dps wouldn’t increase too much (which btw. should increase to some point^^)

Axe:

• Let it cleave (ranged cleave is nice and would really be appriciated), at least the auto. You can even bind it to the axe trait, so it will be more distinctive.
• Make #3 a blast finisher. (just as rev. staff #4). Also nice synergy with Spiteful Spirit

Greatsword:

• either increase dmg overall or reduce attackspeed. Like mentioned above it should at least be affected by reaper’s onslaught.
• Personally I don’t like the spam-function of gravedigger under 50%. It doesn’t feel smooth at all. Let the cooldown stay but increase the damage drastically or add another bonus when hitting foes <50%

Dagger:

• I would love to make it an melee condi-weapon, cause we don’t have one. But GS is locked behind Reaper, so core-necro wouldn’t have a power melee weapon . so..NO

Focus:

• change the regen of #4 to a more offensive trait (since focus is part of our spite aka dmg traitline). What about fury for example?
• #5 should do more dmg when the target has no boons. So it would have always a use. Enemy with boons – less dmg but boonstrip/ Enemy without boon – more dmg.

Scepter:

• The condi-dmg loss of the horror nerf should be compensated in the weapon skills. Since scepter is our condi it could go in here.

Utilities:

• I don’t know how to improve the utilities. I think they are quite fine and could be really nice with a few changes. For example spectral armor. All incoming dmg affects your LF for a short duration. So it ignores dmg to your health but makes use of our “secondary lifebar” without having to pop into shroud. etc.
• There are a few changes necessary, but I didn’t dive into it too much.

Elites:

• as many others have stated, a rework of lich-form similar to the guardian tomes could work. Make mark of horror an elite signet (Signet of horror) and grim spectre an elite spectral skill for example. Of course you have to adjust the numbers properly.

Traits:

• I didn’t dive too much into traits. I think there are many reworks that could be done. Could close to death work not as a passiv but as a debuff to increase the damge partywise for example? …
• I don’t think you need more condi-duration for scepter skills, since you easily reach the cap. But what about a condi-duration increase for allies as long as you wield a scepter? (it would be the “anti-version” of naturalistic resonance)
• Still looking for more support traits: Why not make vampiric rituals affect allies. All allies within your wells siphon life. So the theme stays the same and increases dmg of party members.
• Reaper’s Onslaught should affect GS too (see above)
• Freezer burn – when you inflict chill you als burn enemies. So this would still cause chill to dmg foes but with a stronger impact than bleeding, which is our main condi source anyways.

Just a few thought, many are spread across the community so they are not all orginally my ideas

Jack Skywalker.5674:

Why not go with a high profile Elementalist from GW1 as your legend for this glyph themed legend?

Well first of all I couldn’t think of a high profile Elementalist form the GW history – but I’m not a lore expert!! shame

Secondly I think a legend based on an other available profession (elementalist) could cause some problems. Yeah I know there are already smililarities between legends and professions but it’s not the same as calling it “elementalist-legend”

Last but definitely not least If we get a ele-legend I would want to see not “just” glyphs but Firestorms, frosty hail, Lightnig bolts and earthquakes:D

Hi everyone,
with all the upcoming new E-Spec speculations – and because i’m bored at the moment – i thought to make an espec for the warrior. This is just for fun and I did it for myself, but sharing it with the community is always fun and maybe I can inspire some people to make their own ones.
This espec didn’t start as a warrior espec! I wanted to think of a dervish specialization and by looking at the professions warrior fitted the most for my idea. Thematically the guardian would probably fit better but I’ll stick with the warrior because of various other reasons.

So Warrior: Dervishes an warriors had some similarities back in GW 1. The core-warrior skills wouldn’t seem out of place. And you still have a specific weapon choice fitting the “dervish-theme” (see below).

I tried to think of class mechanic changes, weapon skills, new utilities and traits. All of them are just ideas and some kind of randomly chosen, but I tried to give this profession a “direction”. I also tried to write a bit of lore, but I’m not quite happy with it – maybe there are more creative people out there to come up with a background-story .

In General

E-Spec:
Dervish

Theme:
A melee class with a touch of mystic/magic. Heavy attacks with aoe dmg/ cleave. Focuses on conditions like blind and cripple (earth prayers) or chill (wind prayers). Further it gives warriors access to boon strip. The class has a slightly supercilious character, giving them advantages in fights when they are better than their enemies.
Could even better fit if the next expansion really is going to be in the desert (crystal or elona).

Class mechanic:
Since the dervish gets access to a 2-h-weapon, the change to the class mechanic is rather small.
Of course the staff gets an own burst skill and the core – warrior bursts stay the same.
Additionally: Get access to the enchantment calm before the storm (F2) which consumes your adrenalin and lasts for 8 seconds granting you might and fury. The enchantment ends prematurely when your adrenalin bar is full again. When it ends consume all your current adrenalin and release a force explosion around you dealing more damage the more adrenalin was spent (on activation + ending, so a max of 6 is possible)
[any adrenalin-related traits would proc on activation and ending]

Continued below…

Dadnir.5038:

Honestly, I like your Idea xXLuggXx, however, I’m not sure Ritualist or Razah fit it. Also, I fear that your E-spec is a bit to tied to the legend making it the must use 2nd choice and leaving as only choice Razah/X.

Thanks
Well tbh I didn’t want to make a Ritualist ESpec but while thinking about the skills etc. I was quite influenced by a few GW1 Ritu skills so this left me with this choice. I am totally up for a better fitting name though! Razah fitted with the ritualist and as mentioned above I couldn’t see a “good guy” and “bad guy” cooperating. Razah as an unhuman being filled the “neutral guy”

I see what you mean by too tight. I tried to make the traits like X.1 affects the new weapon X. 2 the new legend and X.3 is general. But 3.3 was lost and i don’t remember it

Dadnir.5038:

A tiny bit above in the thread, I was playing with the idea of the paragon through an E-Spec named Cantor. At the begining when thinking about this spec I wanted to make use of the second legend like you do since there is a kind of duality in the mursaat.

Mechanism : A burst skill per legend and an adrenaline bar that fill from spending energy but doesn’t fill from upkeep. (this is mainly to promote other skills than upkeep skills). Each burst skill should feel like a shout and doesn’t necessarily need to be a damaging skill.

It is really interesting too! Also the Mursaat are fitting. They seem “neutral”, too or evil enough to cooperate with anyone that brings them a benefit
You could make it like warrior (but then I would say the burst skill depends on your passive legend) or like tempest (like an overload of your active legend)

BUT while i like your general idea, i didn’t like paragons back in GW1:D

DreamyLove.8947:

Mistrust
Hex Spell. (6 seconds.) The next spell that target foe casts on one of your allies fails and deals 10…82…100 damage to target and nearby foes.

Soul Barbs
Hex Spell. (30 seconds.) Deals 15…27…30 damage when an enchantment or hex is cast on target foe.

Mark of Subversion
Hex Spell. (6 seconds.) Target foe’s next spell fails and you steal 10…76…92 Health.

Spiteful Spirit
Elite Hex Spell. (8…18…20 seconds.) Deals 5…29…35 damage to target and adjacent foes whenever this foe attacks or uses a skill.

Disease —-- necro only
While suffering from this ailment, you lose Health over time. Disease is contagious between creatures of the same kind.

I really like those. I think we lack the “don’t destroy your allies” kind of spells. Where a target dmgs nerby foes like the “fire bubble” in the volcanic frac end boss fight. I would love to see Spiteful spirit to cover this field, or if the new condition (disease) is too hard to implement (cantagious) you could make the target enemy pulse posion in an area.
I also love the “passive” interruptions, which i miss in gw2. We currently have only activ ones but passing the ball to your enemy is quite interesting. Like do X and suffer Y or don’t do anything and suffer Z. So it’s the target’s choice what to do. Wait till the effect is over (-> that you kind of dazed it), or force it to use an other skill, so the one he originally wanted shouldn’t be wasted etc.
Soul barbes is really cool aswell since it could add direct dmg to conditions. Could function as a trait (“when you aplly a condition deal dmg to foes”) or kind of a debuff as it origanally was.

DreamyLove.8947:

Vampiric Bite
Touch Skill. Steals 29…65…74 Health.

it’s like vampiric or vampiric aura. Or dagger 2. So i think the “idea” is already in the game

DreamyLove.8947:

Order of Pain
Enchantment Spell. Enchants all party members (5 seconds). 3…13…16 more damage whenever these party members hit with physical damage.

it’s basically might, or am i missing something?

DreamyLove.8947:

Insidious Parasite
Hex Spell. (5…13…15 seconds.) Steal 15…39…45 Health whenever target foe hits with an attack.

Signet of Vampirisms passive effekt

DreamyLove.8947:

Life Bond
Enchantment Spell. Half of the damage target ally takes from attacks is redirected to you. Redirected damage is reduced by 3…25…30.

bullwark gyro/ Rise!/ Illusionary Defender/… could be interesting to have this as a player character though.

Pacifism
Hex Spell. (8…18…20 seconds.) Target foe cannot attack. Ends if this foe takes damage.

Seems nice but can’t see many situations where this would work. Is it affected by defiance bar? (-> no effect on champions/ bosses etc.). And for pugs it’s too hard to not dmg them in open world..even in PvP. Immobilizing a melee enemy from distance does similar effects without the restrictions^^

DreamyLove.8947:

Ebon Dust Aura
Elite Flash Enchantment Spell. (30 seconds.) Deal +3…13…15 earth damage with your melee attacks. Initial Effect: Blinds nearby foes for 1…6…7 second[s]. End Effect: removes Blindness. No effect unless wielding an earth weapon.

Would love to see the Dervish-Playstyle return to GW2 but i think they tried to cover this area with the herald. Facets as enchantments and “sacrificing” these for effects. So Facet of Darkness (? the one that gives fury) is basically Ebon-Dust Aura: More dmg (fury) while active and a stunbreak when sacrifiered.

Dadnir.5038:

Just one thing, one of the characteristic of the legend’s skill is that they are not “categorized”, which is why I do not call them glyph.

Oh you are totally right about that! Didn’t have this in mind, although all "Dragon"Skills are Facetts, so maybe it’s still possible =P

Dadnir.5038:

Ultimately, my idea is more a way to make the core legend more enjoyable to use (for me) than anything. (Yes this is really selfish, but I really want to be able to use the potential of each legend in a different way than the actual one. For exemple, I allow me to get rid of the clunckyness of ventarii’s stone.)

I see what you mean. Your suggestion is totally superior with this goal in mind! My idea was to stay with to legends but that your choice affects the whole playstyle. Like a Shiro/ Glint and a Jalis/Glint Herald is nearly the same as long as they are in Glint stance.

Well here my idea [Sorry to OP, if this is kind of hijacking your original post]

Please don’t take the names of the skills/ traits too serious. I really lack creativity when it comes to naming ^^

Hope you’ll enjoy reading it. Keep in mind that taking this espec means not being able to use glint.

New Elite-Spec: The Ritualist
(I know this is not new and to be honest I disliked the idea of a ritu espec, but while thinking of the possible skills I found it quite fitting but don’t expect a ghost-spammer here)

General Theme and Legend:
I thought about a Legend which isn’t isolated from the other one(s). The ritualist rather focuses on cooperation. The new espec grants some condi-management for the revenant and should be able to support power and condition builds.

But who could the legend be? Considering the cooperation-theme it has to be an indifferent character – not bothering cooperating with the good guys or the bad guys. So my suggestion is Razah (Legendary Plasma (??) Stance)

New Class-Mechanic:
TBH this was a hard point for me. I still think that Herald doesn’t really offer a new class-mechanic compared to core-revenant (just an extra skill?). So you could easily do the same with the ristualist. But I tried to think about a new class mechanic:
Remove the energy regeneration and gain energy per hit. (the 50% “rule” outside combat and when swapping stays the same). As I said, I’m not 100% sure with this. The traits will hopefully clarify it a bit. Also I think it has to be done with icd’s or something to balance the weapon types??

Dadnir.5038:

E-Spec name : Medium

Archetype : Revenant/Elementalist

Legendary medium : Razah
Why do I chose Razah? Razah is a being born from the mist, he is connected to the mist and It then feel logic that the revenant can somehow connect himself/ reach him to him.

Mechanism : The system of legend of the Medium change drastically. When someone equip this E-spec, the legend that the player channel will automaticly be Razah, however you can attune the utility skill of razah with the essence of the core legend which can be switched like elementalist attunment. So we got now F1 F2 F3 and F4. Trait specific to legend’s skill work on the attuned skill of razah.

Skill :
-> heal : Soul mending :
+ Dwarf attunment : heal and grant protection
+ Demon attunment : heal and consume condition
+ Centaur attunment : aoe heal
+ Assassin attunment : heal and drain life from nearby foes

-> Utility :
Spirit rift : targeted aoe which effect trigger after a few second
+ Dwarf attunment : Direct damage and weakness
+ Demon attunment : Condi bomb (inflict high number of torment)
+ Centaur attunment : Big heal
+ Assassin attunment : Teleport you to the area

Wielder boon : Break stun
+ Dwarf attunment : gain protection
+ Demon attunment : inflict confusion to nearby foes
+ Centaur attunment : remove up to 2 condition from nearby allies
+ Assassin attunment : gain blur

spirit gift : leave a field
+ Dwarf attunment : electric field
+ Demon attunment : dark field
+ Centaur attunment : water field
+ Assassin attunment : Ice field

-> Elite skill : Clamor of soul : Summon an effigy of your current legend. Upkeep skill -7. effigy can’t be damage (it’s the same as ventarii’s stone except you can’t move it)
+ Dwarf attunment : reduce damage taken by surrounding allies by 50%.
+ Demon attunment : periodically inflict condition to surrounding ennemy.
+ Centaur attunment : periodically heal allies.
+ Assassin attunment : deal damage to the targeted foe.

I am totally stunned. I came to the forums to make a post about an Espac- theorycraft for the revenant. And what should I say.. there are soo many parallels. Hell even our Elite Skills are twins

I won’t post the complete spec, cause i think it’s not so interesting anymore but maybe I can add some of my ideas

I thought about a Legend which isn’t isolated from the other one(s). The ritualist rather focuses on cooperation. The new espec grants some condi-management for the revenant and should be able to support power and condition builds.

New mechanic (but this is really optional):Remove the energy regeneration and gain energy per hit (upkeepskills cost 5 upkeep less, you can’t gain energy while an upkeep is active). The 50% “rule” outside combat and when swapping stays the same). As I said, I’m not 100% sure with this. The traits will hopefully clarify it a bit. Also I think it has to be done with icd’s or something to balance the weapon types??

I didn’t gave the Ritualist access to all 4 legends as attunments. I would stick with two legends and keep the legendswap. But give the Razah-Legend Glyphs. All skills have a base effect and an additional effect depending on your second legend. So the choice of your second legend also affects the playstyle of this legend.

As weapon I thought about a hybrid (power-condi) shortbow (to give this weapon a bit love^^) mixing projectile skills with non projectiles. All around mist energy (obviously).

The traits would have like 3 “main lines”:
1. archery – traits about improving the bow – maybe giving the choice whether condi or dps focus
2. cooperation – going into the “your second legend choice is important” Giving lagendbase skills at legendswap, or passiv bonuses while in the other legend.
3. general – traits dealing with conditions, energymaangement etc.

I’m still a bit shocked about the similarities
If anyone is interested I could post the whole build (with quite similar skills:D). But I’m not familiar with balancing and the “numbers” So there are no Cooldowns/ Casttimes/ Damage/ etc – just the overall idea of skills and traits. Of course they could be OP (I mean I wanted to make a cool espec).

I’m really bad at naming skills/ traits. I have 0 creativity, so there should of course be a renaming
I didn’t think about any numbers, cooldowns etc. It’s just what came into my mind. Could also be a bit overpowered?
What do you think? I know that this specialization is far from being in the game, but it’s quite cool to think “outside of the box”.

Greetings =)

Hi everyone,

with the upcoming leaks about new Elite-Specs I wanted to introduce you my thpughts for a possible Necro Elite :D

Necormancer – Specialization: Shadowbinder

I was thinking about a Warlock/ Summoner type of character. The Shadowbinder uses the forbidden powers of the dark arts. They can control their enemies and harm them not just physically. Powerful Shadowbinders are even known to be able to separate their own shadow.

Keep in mind that this means you cannot take the Reaper-Specialazation.

Well I really liked your idea about changing the weapon skills depending on your current legend
I immediately thought of a vice-versa elementalist with glyphs

I just see 2 problems:
1) This means every new legend will affect ALL weapons (like a new attunement would do for ele)
2) If you want to keep the skills quite the same you still have the problem between switching melee and ranged.

BUT like I said, I really really liked the idea…so I started to go on with my own ideas (took your Mallyx Staff ideas) Don’t think that a-net will do this but hey! it’s fun I didn’t came up with new names for the skills..because..well i’m lazy

Warning: I sometimes tend to make skills a liiitle bit OP^^

I tried to keep the mechanics of the weapons and often one distinct skill for all legends. On the other hand I tried to think of the legends as unique heroes.

Jalis: the tanky Dwarf from the frozen shiver peeks, who likes to fight in company but can stand a whole army on his own.

Mallyx: a demon who enjoys the pain of others. There’s nothing more pleasing than watching an enemy suffer till death.

Ventari: the pacifistic centaur who is more concerned about his allies. But don’t mess with him, he is a master of driving you crazy.

Shiro: a ruthless assassin who focuses on direct damage and benefits from the pain of his victims. He doesn’t even need any company to take down hordes of enemies.

Well… so much for dreaming my results are attached … please keep in mind it’s just fun

I also thought of the possibility to replace weapon swap with some kind of “stance swap” meelee vs ranged

This would allow you to change the skills of your current weapon without allowing you to swap weapons
If this is unfair you could tie the stance on the legend so you will have a melee legend (weapons are melee, utilities normal) and a ranged legend (weapons are ranged, utilities normal)
—> still one weapon set with specific “feeling” but allowing you to be more flexible in combat.
—> making the choice of legends more impactful (a Jalis-Mallyx-Rev isn’t the same as a Mallyx-Jalis-Rev)

So yesterday anet announced the start of the beta-test.

Since there is “no nondisclosure agreement for this beta-tests”, does this mean all infos are coming out?

Actually just could be a wish but it would be nice to have official infos rather then a huge amount of gameplay videos. So can we look forward to the infos left?

BrunoBRS.5178:

xXLuggXx.4018:

I think that it looks like you swing a mistical (Haha get it?) copy of your Hammer.

that’s drop the hammer, the knockdown skill. the AA just throws some funny-looking mallets as the character swings the hammer back and forth wildly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MfYvmHyqumA#t=620

you can see for yourself.

I’m actually not that sure about that…
In the video the rev is wielding the hammer shown in my first picture. In the attachmemt the skill animation of drop the hammer looks more like a standard / blacksmith hammer
But you also could be right possibly it’s drop the Hammer…but that would mean that at least this skill changes according to your equiped weapon..cool

We’ll see what happens
I’m fine with the animations (with or without throwing your current weapon)
Actually it would look nice but is not "needed"because you are not throwing your hammer – you throw mist-energy

I think that it looks like you swing a mistical (Haha get it?) copy of your Hammer.

I don’t think that weapons will be tied Tor legends. In the PoI video the revenant switched stances without any effect on the weapons (no weapon swap)

It may be that some weapons are better used with some legends but I think the choice of the weapon(s) in combination with the choice of the legends will give you some diversity. Actually I’m looking forward to the profession and I will try it … If I like I’ll play

But you’re right you are not the only one who likes to play it “the own way” :-)

I think this are really cool specualtions and i like thinking about lore anyways

While reading through your answers 2 (or maybe 3) different possibilities came to my mind:

1) The “void” caused by the killing of Elder Dragons has to be filled (really liked the coparison to Kormir). So to avoid a never ending fight we have to find “good” avatars to take their part.
> the Pale Tree for Modri’s magic
> Glints’ Baby
> Ogden?!
I don’t know…but you get the idea… OR we fail by doing it (as seen with Teq. and just ONE ED’s magic will turn “good” (Glint’s baby?). So at this point we KNOW it is POSSIBLE and that is our effort and heritage for the future generations:

“Hey guys we had to deal with ED, too. We killed them but the magic was transfered to others. But we managed to transfer the Might of XXX into our friend XX. This is the only known way to end this circle of agony, pain and death.”

2) We don’t care about balance of magic because it is an slow process. We kill all of the elder dragons and celebrate. We’ll live in a period of peace and love and hippie. Maybe we’ll even forget about the ED. BUT because of the “too much magic and the world spins out” things start to change…

New Stuff for Guild Wars 3
(Just like WE helped the Lich release the destroyers (or titans?)) So would not be new to us if something we did in the past affects the future in a bad way

3) (I think the most boring one)
We kill the dragons and find a new way to maintain the circle of magic. Combine the experiences of the races (and the help of the Mursaat) like the asuran technologie, the Norn connection to other spheres the Silvary’s ability to stay in touch with the dream, the human gods (?) and the charr…well they start a new foefire and everyone dies…the end

Ohhh OK thanks

It has been a while playing the story xD

In the Zaithan story we had to talk to the pale tree about our future. After this story we were asked what we are afraid of…
one of the answers was “have to kill someone I love” or something like that (could have been “hurt” and “like” )

I don’t remember something like this happend…but maybe now?

Personally I have no problems with Trahearn BUT wouldn’t be surprising (for anet) to turn an Allie to a new foe :-P

KnighthonHof 4061:

If Revenant Utility are locked, what about Specialization?

Unlike other class Specializations, which still gain access to some of their parent class’ skills to mix and match with,

If the channel skills are locked, that means that its likely the Revenant’s specialization will also use a locked skill bar as well if it hopes to be able to use any of the parent class skills, which all come from channels, which are locked to that specific channel.

Maybe THIS is exactly how the Rev’s Spec works
Since we know specs could change class mechanics it could be possible that the Spec looses legendswap but get a customization Option (you can choose now from all utilities) and even give a weapon swap to compensate.

We still know very (very!) little about the rev and even less about specializations …so I think we’ll have to wait

But I love to speculate (to reduce the waiting)

SnubdubLuskon.1795:

xXLuggXx.4018:

I THINK i understand your thought, but it would be easier if you had posted the “order”

So (based on your work):
Ranger – Ele – Warri – Thief – Engi – Guard – Mesmer – Rev – Necro – Ranger (it’s a circle)

To follow your idea: Every Profession gets the weapon the profession before and the profession after can use both.

And as you mentioned: the engi does no fit in here. (Engi would have to be placed between Warri and Guard, because of the hammer – but would end in a dead end)

Also i hope that the Rev. won’t get the great sword
There are too many professions using it

But I think your spec. isn’t that bad (I mean the weapons you guessed)

Actually, Engineer would easily go between Guardian and Mesmer. Guardian giving him hammer and he giving Mesmer shield. Which in this case means it would probably be more appropriate of Guardian receiving short bow from Thief (or could rertain initial posters idea of pistol).

No because the Mesmer can’t use a Hammer. And according to this theory the profession gets the weapon which is used by the profession before and after

But at is was said I think the devs focused more on gameplay and mechanics.

Mesmer -> shield
Necro -> great sword
Engineer -> Hammer
Ranger -> Staff
Ele -> sword or mace (to fit Mesmer and necro)
Thief -> rifle (would also like offhand sword for some kind of duelist)
Warri -> Pistol (OH ranged) or dagger (evasiv attack)
Guard -> bow (because of his conjured weapons)
Rev -> very hard because we don’t know the weapon set yet … But focus could fit for a more ritualistic playstyle.

I THINK i understand your thought, but it would be easier if you had posted the “order”

So (based on your work):
Ranger – Ele – Warri – Thief – Engi – Guard – Mesmer – Rev – Necro – Ranger (it’s a circle)

To follow your idea: Every Profession gets the weapon the profession before and the profession after can use both.

And as you mentioned: the engi does no fit in here. (Engi would have to be placed between Warri and Guard, because of the hammer – but would end in a dead end)

Also i hope that the Rev. won’t get the great sword
There are too many professions using it

But I think your spec. isn’t that bad (I mean the weapons you guessed)

I would like the idea of a Bo-Staff in Melee (and Ranged ?).

But it could also be a Hammer with a new style. Just as there are swords which don’t look like swords or staves wich look like a scythe. So it is possible that there will be Hammers that look more like Spears/polearmes etc.

I’m not very familiar with the Hammer animations of a Guardian and a warroir, but looking at the pic of Rytlocks weapon I could imagine heavy “hammer-stylish” attacks so it wouldn’t destroy the playstyle of current Hammer users? (Exept engineer spec)

So if not a staff used for meelee…maybe just a cosmetical change of Hammers?

I think many of you have some interesting points about the “new profession”.

Sure it seems more like a status/description than a profession. But I am not sure how the other classes work. Is everyone able to be an elementalist? Or do you have to be “born” with certain magic abilities? Sure everyone can be a warrior or thief or engineer…

Well maybe we could try to focus on the fact that anet tried to give us what the majority wanted.
As all charakters are adults it could be possible that the revenant requires a kind of death experience as a child or something. A specific relation to death so that people called them revenant becuase they (nearly died) but returned…so we are not talking about zombies but about people who survived something really bad.

After Rytlock returned the fact that there’s a new power available spreaded all over tyria. So the people with this kind of relation to death/the mists are able to reach these power like Rytlock did – through hard training of course.

I am looking forward to the new profession. And I think it is like everything in Thema world: if you WANT you could accept the new profession and think Hof a way they fit Info tyria. But if you are searching for negativ points , you’ll find them

PS: maybe the new spec. Of the necro is kind of a dark nicht i man GS and the power of death ?!;)
But I would like a ranged attack like the memer GS even cooler

See you ingame