Guild Wars 2

Must you truly have people waiting and willing to throw matches in tpvp?

Over and over again?

Tomal.7516:

These Speedhax are called swiftness or frenzybuff and these porthacks are just lags from the servers or you/your enemy

So the necro that out ran my whole team had swiftness and frenzy? Ok got it. Thing is he was snared twice. But it must be lag yes?

Please…

ArrDee.2573:

http://www.twitch.tv/livskis/c/5837533

Replace Skyhammer with Courtyard! The strategy is the same!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

ArrDee, even for you, that is a stupid statement….now I know you have made plenty of stupid statements – but this one….seriously? Ever see a big SKYHAMMER in the courtyard? Ever get pulled into a broken glass floor and fallen to your death in courtyard? Have you ever even played on that map?

While I dislike both maps I prefer the Courtyard only because I am not forced to cheese CC people to their deaths like I must in Skyhammer. But I suppose you play both maps exactly the same…

Hell do you even play the game at all anymore?

Wah the fuk hoo. Bye frand.

I really don’t see an issue with MM’s unless you are fighting 1v1 vs a good MM. Ron is absolutely correct by saying that they are subpar in a team environment. No stability, no stun breaks, and no mobility. What they do have, if you go the soldiers variant, is ~28k health. Depending on the setup the MM can do decent damage on its own once the minions are down; however at that point the MM is at a severe disadvantage.

MM’s are nothing more than a home point bunker. Blitz them with a PW thief and anything else and they usually die. Heck a good PW thief alone will take out a MM.

@Realist – yes the AI clutter is an issue when stacked with other AI builds but this is what Anet has given us regrettably. Kill the AI first would be my suggestion – barring that simply out rotate the MM’s.

MM’s are truly not an issue unless you are forced to 1v1. And yes I play one occasionally.

Chart is linear

Actual gameplay is not

Too many variables.

After all is done

Score board ruins everything

No cares, only leave.

PvP balance

Subjective to ones play style

Change it frequently.

Welcome to the fold

Thieves kill you quite easily

Kill everyone else.

Mostly I agree

LoE does not compute

Different game here.

There he was trying

To have fun no cost to him

Others ruined it.

……..

Next time you should write

A Haiku to shed your tears

They are delicious.

Nova Stiker.8396:

garethh.3518:

@Nova Stiker

The game is just messy.
Customization… the traits setup, it is workable, skill trees tied to attributes, random pick and choose traits that could affect anything.. that’s fine, just VERY sloppy.
(sloppy customization makes balancing much more tedious)

Ideally traits would have been far more streamlined, tier one would have a certain kind of trait (like they all are condi defense), tier two a different sort, exc. exc.
When things are exceedingly similar, balance is much easier.

True. But I personally wouldn’t worry about sloppy customization for traits. Can’t be any harder to understand than crafting in Guild Wars 2.

Don’t lie, when you first crafted you made like 10 insignias and wondering if you were suppose to apply them to armor like an upgrade… Or eat them.

I ate mine – although messy they were delicious.

Then I got indigestion….

manveruppd.7601:

I realise you can’t answer these or you might lose your job, but I’m gonna put it here for your and your colleagues to simply read and think about, and possibly discuss amongst yourselves in private:

1. Do you believe that ANet management are giving the PvP team sufficient resources to enable them to develop the kind of new features that would keep the playerbase engaged and playing within a reasonable time scale?

2. Do you believe that ANet’s patch certification and deployment procedures allow for a sufficiently rapid and regular stream of patches to keep the game bug-free and the pvp environment balanced and fun?

Sir – although your questions are quite valid I, for one, would regrettably look to your sig for the answer.

16 fluid ounces in reps of 6 per hour.

I was told my max was 23 in 2 hours yet I am unable to officially confirm that claim due to a blackout.

Thank you for asking.

edit – what Rupert Murdoch puts to print is the bible…..accusations of slander is nothing more than free paychecks for his attourneys. (that was a good chuckle)

Guys – she isn’t in a position to answer such queries.

No matter what position she is in currently she can answer the most impertinent question of our time:

Boxers or briefs!

I googled Evan Lesh and got a Chuck Norris pic. Seriously.

So…

Evan Lesh doesn’t flush the toilet.

He scares the crap out of it!

Or he might use a bidet…maybe clint can confirm.

Thank you for the answer. I truly appreciate it Allie. Monthly tweaks would shake up the meta. As I say, for better or worse, monthly changes keeps things fresh. I’d rather have new challenges than 6 months of stagnation. Hopefully many would agree with this assessment.

Heck even if it was every 3 months and we could look forward to definite changes that would be a great change.

btw….Boxers or briefs?

style.6173:

Fun questions:
1. What’s your favorite PvP map and why? SKYHAMMER! I was told to say SKYHAMMER!
2. What’s your favorite class and why? MESMER!!! MOAS ARE CUTE!
3. If you could have any PvP game mode, what would it be? WHACK A MOA!

Verbatim.

Dosvidaniya.3260:

1. When will we have rewards in pvp again? Will it be post WvW season 2? SURE!
2. When will we have more information about the new pvp reward system? SOON!
3. When will the balance patch land? SOMETIME AFTER SOON!.
4. Any talk of additional features being added to pvp? TALK? WE JUST CHUCKLE AND CASH OUR PAYCHECKS!
5. What are your thoughts about team arena removing so many players from solo arena? HOTJOINS ARE EASIER TO GET INTO NOW – WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT HEATHEN?!?!
6. Any consideration into converting old mats or boosters into something useful instead of the current plan? WHAT PLAN?

Verbatim.

PvEsports ftw!

Hmmm….if only that oyster contained a pearl….no matter I’ll swallow it anyway!

I never understood that style.

Personally I blame Obamacare.

Bytor.3826:

It’s up to the players to change the meta. That isn’t Anets job.

Just sayin’.

In a perfect world you would be correct.

Alas this is GW2.

But do try to make a turret engi a “meta” build. Or how about a P/P thief?

NewTrain.7549:

Question for everyone who thinks this is a l2p issue: how do you explain every top team (or what’s left of them) rolling at least one, and in many cases two, hammer warriors? If they didn’t outperform other classes significantly, why devote 40% of a team to them?

Risk vs reward.

3 words:

New World Order.

Soon the EU will get to fully experience the nonsense that we in the US have had to endure. Looking at you next Asia.

I posted the essence of this on another thread but I’ll get right to the point.

When will ,you, the Anet pvp dev’s grow some dang balls? (yourself excluded Allie)

By this I mean when will you shake up the current “meta”?

I’m not talking about slight changes to observable metrics. I speak of a complete overhaul. Give us something fresh! Obviously new game modes are out the window or at the very least on the distant horizon. IE. Mars….

So my true question would be this:

Can you effectively disrupt any current “meta” on a monthly basis?

If you dared to do such a thing you would cure GW2 of the current stagnation that we are all experiencing barring new game modes.

For better or worse if you could shake up the “meta” on a monthly basis; encouraging me to play unfamiliar classes or unused trait lines (builds) to be optimally effective then you have my attention. Perhaps you might come close to that gamer utopia that we call “balance”.

Or do we as pvp’rs not garner such consideration from Anet?

edit – oh wait this is a meet and greet BS session. I apologize. So my question would be this Allie….

Boxers or briefs?

Get stability or go cheesemode.

I have a character, as many do, JUST for this abomination of a map.

They are not going to change it, regrettably. Easiest, and best change, would be to wall off the map so that you can only get insta-gibbed over a broken pane of glass.

With all due respect to my EU friends ( I normally play during EU “primetime”) just be glad that the patch is rather quick and usually without any major issues.

Now back to complaining about whatever class/spec you can’t kill…

Jackums.3496:

runeblade.7514:

Okay, Anet nerfs hammer warriors to death. So what is next? A new meta will pop up and you will complain about that too.

That’s how the game’s meant to work. It will never be balanced, but the meta is supposed to change constantly to keep things interesting.

But it hasn’t, and Warriors are still over-powered.

The apparent warrior issue aside ( if you are having issues with a class then roll one and learn it so you can better counter it ) Jackums is onto something here. I truly believe this is a major issue with GW2 pvp as a whole. If any of you played Rift then you know that Trion destroyed that game with massive changes to classes over a short period of time. But Rift then isn’t like GW2 now due to the fact that you can take a brand new toon, gear it up, and play despite major changes with NO investment of time or virtual resources. With Rift you had to regear and sometimes that was no small feat. Just using Rift as an example….

GW2 is quite forgiving in this regard. Repecing and changing gear costs you nothing! No time investment other than adapting to a new “meta” is required. With this fact in mind I personally believe it would behoove the Anet pvp dev’s to shake up the “meta” on a more consistent basis.

This alone would save the game from the stagnation that we are currently experiencing.

Anet – PLEASE shake things up on a scale whereby people might be encouraged to stop playing their FotM specs. For better or worse, if I knew that another change would be coming down the pike in a MONTH I could deal with it. Perhaps I might have to play a class I am unfamiliar with or a spec that I had never considered…so be it! At least this would keep things fresh and seeing that no new game modes are in our future this might be the easiest remedy to the current stagnation.

If you are unable to give us new game modes then at least change the status quo. Again, for better or worse, change things drastically…and do so on a monthly basis.

Anet, grow some dang balls (Allie excluded) and do something soon….please.

LB s/s condi shout warriors would like to have a word with you.

Shhh Julie…..people like big numbers! Surely a spec such as this is BAD to play!

Ok – I have played the EXACT spec that the OP has given us both in Yolo QQ and team queue. So to those of you who wish to piecemeal it to death…have you tried it? C’mon now me and the OP can’t be the only ones now can we? Actually I know this is not the case….

Oh noes I have no stability…..boo hoo….know this builds role! Stability truly means nothing as you are a force multiplier. It is best being a group support machine.

Or is it?

Oh noes some classes have temp condi immunity….know this, if you see this spec running towards you….run away! If you are a decap engi so be it. I’ll leave you to your solo masturbation because I know these 2 specs should never meet in a 1v1. You do nothing but ensure that your team is down a man while you hump that point.

I’ll leave it up to everyone to test this spec out. I only know what my experience was…and oh my was it enjoyable.

Thank you Zone!

I dared to try it now will the rest of you?

The gerbil was too busy sipping tea while laughing at the nonsense and told the turtle to take care of the matter.

The wise turtle, knowing that he was beaten, decided that ALL shall be dishonorable should the gerbil not stop sipping his tea!

I truly understand that the hampsters are dying out due to either fashion or simple economics (more likely the boredom that is petting zoo’s, healing signet, and other passive effects) but c’mon guys at least give GW2 the Richard Gere treatment. Please replace our furry friends that truly operate your servers with a more updated mammal, eh?

Seriously though – pvp is pure bullocks right now due to your servers.

Just thought ya might want to know.

edit – for a “t”……hello Turtle

“Structured” pvp….maybe if you are in a team queue playing with a full team. Yolo QQ is nothing more than a glorified hotjoin. Call it RANKED queue and maybe, just maybe, people will get it.

And if Allie is trolling – then for shame.

5 main issues with pvp atm as I see it:

1. Lack of game modes. Sure we have different maps but it is the same form of basic game play – conquest. This is the main issue I believe.

2. A total disconnect between the pvp dev. team and the pvp community. I do think the pvp devs actually listen to the community to a degree. However either they A. Completely disagree. Or B. They do not have the resources, time, or do not care to act.

3. The player base. Peruse these forums and mainly all you see are complaints and rants. Some justified but most are not. As a whole it would seem that no matter what the devs do “we” will never be happy.

4. The matchmaking. I can’t fully comment upon this except to say that as the pvp population declines this issue will only get worse.

5. Balance. The amount of time it takes to correct obvious problematic specs is another major issue. See point 2.

The general negativity being expressed, whether rightly or wrongly, will only breed more negativity in the form of results, perceptions, and experiences. Ask yourself this – if you were a new player or new to pvp and you came to this forum would you be encouraged to play?

In the end the pvp devs are not solely to blame for the rapidly declining pvp population. We as a community share much of the blame. But as it stands atm pvp in GW2 has become rather bland due to us only having conquest mode.

Per the OP’s question (and I qualify this because when I play I play at random hours) the pvp community after NA “primetime” is abysmal.

tl/dr – pvp in GW2 is kittened.

I normally play an engi or a necro. For the longest time I was stubborn and used the old HgH nades engi and the terrormancer build. I have recently switched to a “bunkerish” far point assault engi and a gasp MM power necro if I need to hold home.

Hey guys – guess what? I also play a hambow warrior! I am playing the warrior just until I get the title and then I’ll move on to ranger or ele.

I used to complain about the healing signet being OP. Truth is – the healing signet is the last thing you should be concerned about!

The fact that I can remove 3 conditions while using burst with my bow…now THAT is OP. Hell I don’t even have to hit anything! The fact that I can get 16 secs of stability via a stance and a signet…now THAT is OP. The fact that I can use Lyssa runes and Signet of Rage (pure condi clear) along with Bezerkers stance (8 sec condi immunity)…now THAT is OP.

That is just from the silly hambow spec I use. What is more OP than that? Usually it is another warrior build

So yeah – the healing signet is the least of your worries.

Needs moar “downed state” calls! Srsly.

Until it is confirmed that the ele is NOT a bunkerish spec I target them 1st. Not because they are easy kills (they are) but because they can wreck a point. Good eles are a pure terror.

It truly depends on your spec and theirs. Either way it’s not going to be easy. If you take grenadier and you have decent CC keep distance and try to bait their marks. Act as if you are closing and back off and attack from another position once the marks are placed. Once they use consume conditions you can rush and use your CC to possibly neutralize the point. Short window here so it might be best to neutralize and go.

If they are pure condi spec and you have automated response then dont blast your healing turret. You should be able to outlast their mediocre direct damage. If you are the standard rabid spec just know that you have to clear all condi’s asap once you are around 4.5k health. After that, just CC them, be annoying, and call for help to finish them should you require it.

For MM necros it is pretty much the same, keep distance, but you do not bait their attacks and only focus on the minions. Once those minions are down you can take out the necro. Just try to kite the minions away from the necro and kill them asap.

Versus power necros…well…they turn into a lich…you just run. FAST. Wait for that to drop and you should be able to finish them. Kite them as much as possible.

Anyway – its not going to be easy. Engi vs necro’s are always interesting matches due to the various builds that come into play. You have the advantage because within the 1st 5 secs you kinda know what they are running and whether or not they are worth the time.

edit – yeah some pure power engi’s can take out the necro via burst. Like I say, you will know their build before they know yours so use that to your advantage regardless of what you are running.

Yasha.5963:

Isn’t the pre-game attack/defence of those objectives part of the game?

Ya know, when I first saw people doing this I thought it was an exploit. Now that I’ve become used to such nonsense it gives me something to do before the match starts. However, the fact that this hasn’t been fixed yet is laughable.

Wolf.4739:

I’ve been playing lots of HoT join this weekend and think it’s in a terrible state.

Where as it was always a zergy chaotic experience it’s now often a gank fest.

The experienced players quickly see who the other experienced players are and team up. We’re also getting guild teams and maybe by circumstance certain OP class teams.

It’s not an experience that is going to encourage new players to participate in sPvP.

Just a tip – find that guy who is constantly killing you…then next match wait for him to choose a side and then join it. Pretty dang simple, huh? If that doesn’t work you could always, oh I dunno, join a different match maybe?

Scoobaniec.9561:

8/10 seconds in which warrior pretty much takes ur face off keyboard away.

Sounds its working as intented to prevent facerolling.

My oh my – that was simply delicious.

Soon – for 700 gems you will be able to purchase a, one time use only, temporary finisher deleter.

Be patient.

The thing about Trollhammer is that most people, myself included, have a particular build just for this ONE map. Heck I have a toon that I only log onto for this map. If that doesn’t tell the devs how bad the map is then nothing will. Yeah it is fun knocking people off the ledges, pulling people to their deaths and such, but c’mon man this is a stupid map – end of story. Relegate this piece of sadomasochistic nonsense to hotjoin already.

As for Cheese Watch the game is won too easily by the team with a dedicated bunker who does nothing but run the orb. Protect that guy and so long as you have one point you will usually win. Again – relegate it to hotjoins.

In the end please make both solo queue and team queue consistent in regards to the maps played. That is really all we are asking for.

Trollhammer vs Cheese Watch….GO!

Actually not a bad idea, Acandis.

Gamble.4580:

if u thinking for staff roll with one of these,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_O_3v9pGTE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYv8h7bEYyU

LoL Gamble. The whole time I was watching you on Khylo I was thinking to myself….who needs a treb when a good staff ele can do that? Not sure if your opponents were exceptionally bad but I do know that your positioning and movement was just short of flawless.

As I write this I had just dusted off my ele after not playing the class for 7 months or so. I see all of the gnashing of teeth within this forum but, eh…I’m gonna play ele anyway. Why? Because it appears to be a challenge. You sir, make it look so much fun.

Thank you for the vids.

werock.8715:

just a theory ,,whatya think?

I think you are either trolling or full of kittehs.

2 Lyssa, 2 Hoelbrak, 2 Strength for runes. (Fire runes work as well.)

Reason being because I am lazy and the + might duration helps maintain might stacks.

Sigil of Corruption and Sigil of Battle.

Per your question, provided that mobility is an issue for you, I would simply take the 10 points out of Firearms and put them into Tools as this is the only place that you could truly spare 10 points. If mobility isn’t a concern for your type of play then go with the standard build.

Simple as that. Of course I would defer to OE’s wisdom regarding the build as he popularized it.

I’ve run HgH for about 6 months now (thank you OE) both in yolo QQ and tpvp. The main issue with the build you have posted is mobility. I take the 10 out of firearms and put those into Tools for Speedy Kits. It is a great spec I must admit and there is not much of a learning curve – if you can place ’nades properly then you are golden.

The main issue is that you are very squishy so range is your best friend. The stealth on demand is absolutely wonderful and I will kite around points simply harassing people until the condi’s truly kick in. With 25 stacks of corruption you are hell on wheels; provided you have the wheels. That is why I suggest Speedy Kits. I’d much rather have mobility. However, Infused Precision might be an equitable trade.

I mainly play as a roamer though. So I want/need quickness when I must have it. Just my 2 copper.

Essence Snow.3194:

Absinth.6917:

Yasha.5963:

I like the new rewards system, however, I have only 8 gold after playing the game since launch because I play spvp nearly all the time. The gold cost of goods is just far too high. Just buying a 20 slot bag will bankrupt me.

Perhaps the gold cost is set at a rate that makes sense if I was starting from day 1 and a year from now I would have 500,00 glory and say 400g from spvping, (actually the gold cost still seems high even at that point), but what about the spvpers now? We can’t really buy anything even sitting on half a million glory.

Spent 500k glory today and made just over 350k gold before the market began to crash.

350g? or 350k g? Huge difference

Opps it was 350 gold

Yasha.5963:

I like the new rewards system, however, I have only 8 gold after playing the game since launch because I play spvp nearly all the time. The gold cost of goods is just far too high. Just buying a 20 slot bag will bankrupt me.

Perhaps the gold cost is set at a rate that makes sense if I was starting from day 1 and a year from now I would have 500,00 glory and say 400g from spvping, (actually the gold cost still seems high even at that point), but what about the spvpers now? We can’t really buy anything even sitting on half a million glory.

Spent 500k glory today and made just over 350k gold before the market began to crash.