Guild Wars 2

Remember when leaderboards actually showed the top players and not the ones who grinded out the most games? Pepperidge farm remembers.

Allow us to queue anywhere again, HotM only doesn’t help anything. I have played two games tonight and both were 4v5, so glad I couldn’t do anything while I waited for those queues to pop.

I think this is more of proof that Stronghold needs alot of improvement, nobody wants to play it that doesn’t mean combine queues and force people to play it.

So the taunt from this trait interrupted Renewed Focus (an invuln), I can only assume this is not intended.

If I queue as a thief for example and get paired with another thief I am not going to stay on thief if they are. You are generally swapping to fix your own comp not counter theirs. Regardless of penalty I will always switch because the current leaderboards are a joke and i’d rather have a good game.

This pretty much sums up why I don’t play much anymore, it was bad enough that the LB changed to be centered around play time and games over being the best, but on top of that I get to do absolutely nothing with a normal queue time being 6 minutes or more (for me).

Aside from conditions and critical hits, the issue of mid air placement should also be dealt with.

brannigan.9831:

Damsel Delilah.9084:

‘In the newest version of this system, we’re putting a much stronger focus on wins, with less weight given to the sheer number of games played over a period of time.’

This clearly has had little to no effect as there are still 4 people in the top 25 with under 50% win rate and nobody in the top 75 is even a ‘top tier’ player, so shall we just go back to what actually showed good players and find a way to deal with decay instead of reinventing the wheel and making a square?

I agree with youmostly but who died and made you the king of naming top players. Actually there are quite a few very good solo only players in the top 100 right now. There are also a lot of bads.

I view top tier players as players who are known for regularly placing well in tournament settings, whether it be past or present.

#Hope
#StopTheCruelty

‘In the newest version of this system, we’re putting a much stronger focus on wins, with less weight given to the sheer number of games played over a period of time.’

This clearly has had little to no effect as there are still 4 people in the top 25 with under 50% win rate and nobody in the top 75 is even a ‘top tier’ player, so shall we just go back to what actually showed good players and find a way to deal with decay instead of reinventing the wheel and making a square?

SobeSoul.6910:

Blackjack.5621:

Seems simple to me that someone who loses less should have more points.

Not really.

If you run full premades you shouldn’t be rewarded the same as someone who solo queues point wise.

Yes you should, you shouldn’t be held back for playing as a team in a TEAM game, just because someone else wants to be casual.

Definitely needs a nerf, the build is just stupid and practically plays itself with very little counter play for many builds, as turrets cannot receive conditions or critical hits.

My games generally are shorter than my queue times (10-15minutes with the rare 2-5 minute pop) more so when solo than with a group.

Leaderboards are meant to show the best players, not show who performs the best at their level and plays often. The old leaderboards were far from perfect aswell, but MMR is a much more reliable way to rank people than this system is.

Grump.7069:

Funny how premades are crying over the fact the new leaderboard are all about grinding. Won’t deny it’s partially true, but the fact still remains that if you’re a bad player, you still won’t be able to get massive points by purely grinding.

The point being that it is more about playtime and being ‘good’ at your skill level instead of being the BEST player. A leaderboard is supposed to show the best players and as this is a TEAM game it only makes sense that you need a TEAM to be rank 1.

Silentshoes.1805:

“The current leaderboard is a farmboard and does not represent actual skill.”

Mostly, I disagree. There are people who tend to make their team lose. They play a lot but get few ladder points.

For each person on the ladderboard now, see if their points are greater than their number of wins.

Those people are skilled at team playing. They tend to get bigger-than-expected win scores, and bigger-than-expected scores even when they lose the match.

The people who pay a lot and tend to help their team win also tend to have higher ladder points.

This does not make a good ranking system simply because it does not show the BEST players, which is what a leaderboard is supposed to do.

Laserbolt.6731:

Kako.1930:

All I got from this thread was “[I’m convinced that] I’m the best and I want my bragging rights.”

Yeah, I took it that way, too.

Backpack, you and about 25 others are really good at the game. You have recognition.

Now let there be something for everyone else to try for as they work to improve.

The current leaderboard is a handicap system to reward the everyday player for consistency and being an asset to the team on a consistent basis.

This is the mentality that anet caters to and it is rather sad tbh. I can’t be the best, reward me for playing alot. They shouldn’t even give out rewards for the test season because you don’t need to be a skilled player to be a ‘top player’.

There is a reason no good team runs a ranger, they are underpowered if anything.

I was getting 10 minute minimum yesterday for almost every queue.

I don’t remember which post, but if I recall correctly it has been stated that class specific mmr is temporarily disabled and there is just one main mmr at the moment.

Readymade.1672:

I am done bothering with ranked arena if the few times I can actually play an uninterrupted string of games doesn’t even count. I missed out on 12 wins from the first kitten, now you’re telling me the same kitten is just going to keep happening?

About sums it up, not only is it mainly about grinding instead of skill… now it is also about hoping the leaderboard doesn’t kitten up while you actually have time to play.

A leaderboard that shows the top players, not one that shows who does the best at their mmr (and plays alot).

Forgetting about power necro are we?

Jelzouki.4128:

I don’t think its a celestial problem, I think it’s a profession balance problem.

Except for the fact that both of those classes use celestial in their main build and would most likely not win as many match ups with any other amulet.

I wouldn’t say delete, but definitely tone it down.

Engi is fine, celestial is not, however regardless of this 5 engis is a very bad team comp and should not win vs another premade of equal skill.

Pretty simple… Class swaps either pregame only or once per game need to be allowed again, I simply will not play a class I am not familiar with in solo q anymore because I cannot switch (without ridiculous penalty) if I feel like the team comp given needs a different class to have a good chance at winning (multiple thieves for example).

Justin ODell.9517:

We don’t show MMR for the same reason.

Could you possibly make mmr visible to us? Like in the pvp panel or something, just us and nobody else would be fine I would think.

insanemaniac.2456:

play the toon youre queuing as

Really wish this was not a thing, I enjoy playing classes I am less familiar with while I am solo, but if it does not work in the team comp I will switch (or I used to rather, because now you’re just kind of screwed).

or ya know…just regroup and not filter out.

It has already been said that these maps will not be in the playlist while a season is active. currently there is no season and no leaderboard tied to ranked games.

Na, revert it for all classes or just leave it as is.

Not exactly an ‘op’ build, easy maybe, but not op. There is a reason nobody good runs turret engi in tournaments.

It isn’t in the competitive rotation, when a season starts all of the non standard maps get taken out of ranked. end of problem before it even began lol.

Although I was wondering if the button is even supposed to be there, isn’t unranked supposed to be locked in as far as teams go.

I was queued in a full premade and we just saw the button lit up because they had someone slow loading in and clicked it out of curiosity.

It happens when you swap teams as someone on their team is loading in.

Can confirm 10/10 button.

I doubt making things visually better would do anything of major use, there needs to be more variety in gameplay. The main reason I quit playing was because the gameplay became stale and certain builds/team compositions will never become viable in game formats such as conquest.

Django.5923:

so you play top 100 with ele and have a viable build? post it plz thank you.

otherwise this build is probably very good for dungeons! well done

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-k33;0J0BJ-U0-5gM-Z0;9;6JJT;457-49-17A4o0;0o0-sV2DsV2D4BA

I use this build in team queue in both side point and mid fight situations.

http://gwshack.info/?page=player_spvp&region=na&username=Damsel%20Delilah.9084

My current rank and highest achieved ranks are shown here if it really matters to you.
(I know the link doesnt work properly, idk why…just copy and paste if you really want to look lol)

Diamond Skin is a bad trait, 10% of an eles hp is nothing….needs a rework because it is bad, not because a few necros waste all their skills on an immune target.

While its not a major issue, this does need to be corrected. sPvP is meant to be a level playing ground for everyone, paying skillpoints doesn’t seem very level to me.

This is indeed interesting lol.

I stream occasionally and will be testing ele builds as a priority on the 10th, probably streaming most of it in hopes of returning to maining ele after being stuck on warrior for 3 months.

Soyboy.3548:

I wish they’d get rid of this “esport” mentality. MOST people who play this game don’t give a crap about the leaderboards and rarely if ever look at them (if they ever have).

Are you saying that those finishers are reserved for people who have achieved a certain rank in the leaderboards? Because that’s kittened up. I want a dragon/phoenix finisher too, but there’s no way I’m going to quit my job and practice pvp like a pro would.

I’m sorry, but this feels like a PvE mentality. PvP needs things that say ‘hey look at me, i’m awesome at this game.’ what is the point of being competitive if you get nothing to separate you and the rest of the players.

mini.6018:

I only play hotjoin because the system is broken.73 matches is enough to understand that you are paired in 4v5s and against ranks 40-50-60-40.40 vs ranks 5-10-30-10-5 and the system is faulty.

This isn’t about Solo Q, nobody is saying Solo Q is not broken. (because it clearly is and even if it wasn’kittens just Solo Q.) However, on the other hand we have Team Arena where it is far different, it is not the perfect system…we all know this, but Qualifier Points were FAR from perfect and players were still rewarded for those when we switched over to leader boards.

mini.6018:

Damsel Delilah.9084:

mini.6018:

Top 100 should be given the title" exploit ftw" and should not be removable.How about that reward?If you are that good then there is no problem you guys still have both hands do you?

Let me guess, another person who barely does any PvP and assumes anyone in the top 100 exploited to get there… (no im not talking about solo q)

Both ladders are broken.Soloq and Teamq are both affected by decay and bad matchmaking.Soloq is also affected by sync exploits but that does not make team q any more legit.Bad Matchmaking still affects both ladders.

You have 73 games in total, all in solo queue and are not even ranked in team queue, I don’t think you really have the ability to be stating things like you are when you don’t even play the PvP yourself.

mini.6018:

zone.1073:

Top 100 should have the option of displaying their ladder rank as their in-game title.

A simple “#51” for example. Strike fear in foes by showing off ladder ranking.

Top 100 should be given the title" exploit ftw" and should not be removable.How about that reward?If you are that good then there is no problem you guys still have both hands do you?

Let me guess, another person who barely does any PvP and assumes anyone in the top 100 exploited to get there… (no im not talking about solo q)

I support the idea of reissuing titles or something for Team Arena, but not for solo q as that is the arena that actually has broken match making.

I really hope they give titles for Team Arena with this reset, it only seems fair. QP points were an extremely broken system, but the top players in that were still rewarded so I see no reason to not do it this time.