Guild Wars 2

2:17 to 2:27. Engi just stands there while Rev auto attacks him to death. He wasn’t stunned and he wasn’t immobilised. He just didn’t seem to feel like moving out of the way.

Meanwhile, his mesmer friend (who was in stealth as of 2:19) ran away and could be seen at quite a distance at 2:27 – still running away.

Real pros.

I just want my 1 second of infuse light back.

I hardly even noticed the other nerfs.

Agreed.

Stability is a menace and should be removed on all classes. If necessary we could have a new system where in order to get stability, you must type in the chatbox: ‘Stability plz 123’. This would allow fast typers and psychics to be rewarded for their superior intellect and reflexes whilst punishing morons, muggles and people with bad keyboard skills.

Stunbreaks should also be removed. If people want to avoid stuns they should have to dodge. There’s no sense in having these buttons that get you off scott-free. We should have an increased number of stuns and other control effects on all professions. None of these should be passive effects. This will promote the ideal of saving your dodges meaning anyone who wastes them on evading dps attacks should be punished as they are obviously idiots.

We should remove all passive traits and replace them with active skills of your choice. This would increase build diversity and send those filthy, disgusting casuals straight back to hell. Those imbeciles should never be able to keep up with a game that’s meant for champions.

I’m with you, brother.

Dastion.3106:

I dislike it because it’s always on even if you don’t have Glint Legend equipped.

Nope. It disappears when you switch legend.

I would very much like some more cool things.

Just because your Daddy doesn’t love you, it doesn’t mean you get to bully us.

99% nerfs. Hardly addressed the major issues. Didn’t touch on Ventari, Jalis or Salvation. Mallyx/Shiro with mace/axe/staff will probably now be the meta.

Not happy.

This wasn’t a 1v4. These players were disorganised enough that it just became a 1v1, then immediately another 1v1, then another 1v1 and so on…

In fact, the extra players in those 1v1s were just helping our protagonist. In one case he went from less than 1/3 health to full in literally 1 second. If they bothered to pay attention it would have been just 1/3 + 1900 or whatever the base heal is.

Any weapon could give any play style.

Ultimately, it comes down to the imagination of the developers.

OP needs to chill out.

I don’t think the revenant is the profession for you.

I’m playing absolutely perfectly with it. I’ve got very good damage and sustainability even without Glint/Herald in PvE.

I never have a problem with energy. Not once today in PvP have I been without at least 10-20 energy.

I’m not sure if you’re trolling or you genuinely can’t figure it out but either way you need to calm down, take a breath and work your way through a strategy and design some rotations.

So in essence, this thread is just saying:

- I don’t know anything about most of the new specs.
- I don’t agree with the lore.
- Dragonhunter is bad (Agree).
- I had ridiculous expectations.

Not very productive.

Out of all the elites, I’d say Reaper is one of the most balanced.

No damage for 15 seconds? What on Earth are you talking about?

Quaggan expansion.

NOBODY will complain about cute little quaggans swimming around.

I think it’s reasonable to allow for intuitive speculation. Obviously the more information we have, the more accurate we’ll be in our guesses but so what? They say it’s going to be hard and we might need some defence so let’s just explore some of the current options.

To me, all the last two posts said are: “Never think. Never use your intuition or your brain. Just accept what there is and what there isn’t until we’re told what the new conditions and parameters are.”

I think we’re getting to the point where you don’t really need to be asking about peoples opinions on builds like this. It’s almost exactly the same as the now generic dps build everyone was running on the last bwe. Maybe you’ve only just decided to look in to the revenant so it’s okay that you didn’t know that but there are a lot of builds you can and should read about on these forums before posting one of your own.

Analysis: It’s fine. Force sigils are a bit boring (though effectively fine) and hoelbrak/strength are better than rage runes. Ferocious strikes is better than rapid lacerations but the overall build is fine. It’s all fine.

Have fun.

Kidel.2057:

fear on UA would actually be interisting

I don’t even care if it’s on UA or another skill.

I JUST WANT FEAR !

5.

I was really hoping that an elite specialisation would be elite. Unfortunately, I can’t see myself using any warhorn skill, overload or tempest trait in very many situations.

I really hope they completely rework this even if it delays HoT for a while.

I want FEAR.

Please?

I played WoW for quite a while.

WoW is a lot grindier than Gw2, especially the leveling up process. The leveling up process in WoW is absolutely awful in my opinion when compared to Gw2. It’s all just kill a million bears and collect a zillion little magical orbs and stuff like that. The higher level grinds are fairly tolerable though because you get rewards that actually mean something and rewards that help you – pets, mounts, great cosmetics, nifty little objects that allow you to do useful and funny things – rockets and invisibility for any class if you level up some engineering.

Doing things like getting exalted status for some factions were just impossible for me. It just took too long doing the same dungeons/raids over and over.

Some things in WoW also depending a lot on getting lucky. I tried hundreds upon hundreds of times to get that phoenix mount from the Sunstrider raid (I forget what it’s called) and I never actually got it in the end even though it’s supposed to be sort of easy to get compared to some other raid rewards. It was absolutely excruciating and all for nothing. It was also extremely easy which made it all the more boring. Whenever soloing any content, I really just pressed ‘starfall’ on my druid and watched everything in sight die instantly.

Gw2 also feels a lot less grindy to me because the combat is so much more dynamic. In WoW I’d really just stand in one spot on my moonkin using very predictable and simple rotations because you can’t move whilst casting spells. This is why very specific specialisations absolutely dominated in PvP – I’m thinking of feral druids who (as I remember it) had probably the best mobility. There was a much larger gap between the best and worst classes in both PvP and PvE.

Ultimately, I just played WoW less and less once I discovered Gw2 until it just wasn’t worth paying the monthly fee. Gw2 is much, much less of a grind than WoW. Gw2 is one of the least grindy games I’ve ever played. WoW is still a great game though; it’d definitely be one of my first thoughts if I stopped playing Gw2.

I’m glad someone finally had the courage to speak out against tempest.

There’s not nearly enough people saying the exact same thing.

Give us back our second of infuse light!

I’ll meet your guardian with my Mallyx/Glint Rev and use those stacks of burning to heal myself to full health then apply resistance and burst you down with a combination of Embrace the Darkness and Unrelenting Assault once I remove your blocks.

Revenants are weak to conditions but we’re strong against idiots.

/Game and thread.

But really, who didn’t see this coming?

Why would Herald want an arrowhead?

The dragonhunter symbol isn’t exactly inspired but the dragon head fits much better on Herald.

1: Power Tank

Hammer and Sword/Shield

Jalis/Glint

Retribution
Invocation
Herald

Soldier/Valkyrie/Knight/Sentinel/Celestial

CC comes from:
- Chain
- Chaotic Release
- Hammer knockdown

Tankiness comes from:
- Hammer evade
- Sword evade
- Both shield skills
- Stability dodge from retribution
- Extra stability from herald
- Toughness from herald
- Incoming damage modifiers from retribution
- Stunbreaks from RotGD, legend swap, gaze of darkness
- RotGD
- Your two healing skills (obviously)
- Vengeful hammers
- Healing traits (like steadfast rejuvenation and invigorating flow)
- Facet of chaos
- Field of the mists (block + leeching with hammer auto)
- Stability from road

That’s more or less what the tank build will be. Glint might be able to be replaced with Ventari and Invocation could be replaced with Salvation. Staff could replace either weapon set and give you a block, heal, condi cleanse, evade, daze and healing orbs.

I’m not sure how a condi tank would work exactly. Mallyx seems like a very offensive legend but I’ll give it a go.

2: Condi Tank

Mace/Axe and Sword/Shield

Mallyx/Jalis

Corruption
Retribution
Herald

Dire/Rabid (only with invocation)/Celestial/Settler

CC comes from:
- Chain
- Temporal rift
- Unyielding anguish

Tankiness comes from:
- Sword evade
- Both shield skills
- Stability dodge from retribution
- Extra stability from herald
- Toughness from herald (You still have vengeful hammers and embrace the darkness for upkeep skills)
- Incoming damage modifiers from retribution
- Stunbreaks from RotGD
- RotGD
- Your two healing skills (obviously)
- Vengeful hammers
- Healing traits (like steadfast rejuvenation)
- Stability from road

Unfortunately, I just don’t see how this one would work. The way I see it, with conditions on revenant, you have to invest everything you have in offence. I mean look at what I wrote. It’s nonsense.
You could also go with Shiro but you’d just be replacing a taunt for a stun and a 40 energy stunbreak for 30 energy stunbreak while Shiro has a lot less defence overall.
You could also go with Glint and try to play tanky with facet of nature, light and chaos but it’d just work way better for dps than for tanking.
One more option is just using a mace/shield as the second weapon set for the first build just for that very little of condi + the fire field (for might stacking if you have no ele or berserker). Ultimately though, the sword is just better for CC and survivability.

Alternatively, you can just forget all that and spam conditions for the easiest kill you’ll ever get.

I don’t think that DH should be nerfed. I do not play DH. I play rev, staff ele and engi.

The amount of people who have just started playing guardian now though is absolutely ridiculous. In conquest there are always now at least 4 guardians in every game, sometimes 3 on a team which should normally be fairly rare rather than every second game.

I don’t like seeing things nerfed usually, but I just hate how everyone has suddenly become a guardian main and I’m perma-trapped on a point in conquest.

The more people who jump on the bandwagon, the more other professions are going to QQ.

Guardians, please, send the horde back from whence they came.

I thought the scrapper was a bit tough to kill but I’ve really had no problems with any elite specs overall. I don’t think anything is overpowered really. The first time I went up against a chrono was really confusing but after a few fights, it became more or less like any other profession: dodge this, stunbreak that, heal after this, burst after that.

Everyone needs to take their time and learn about all the elite specs and how do counter them because yes, they can be countered. There’s no sense in competing to see who can shout: “OP” the loudest right off the bat. Take at least a week.

My qualifications: a few hours each playing with tempest, herald, scrapper, reaper and druid + experience with all these same specs on the beta weekends.

Revenant:

1 8 to all stats
2 10 to all stats
3 12 to all stats
4 14 to all stats
5 16 to all stats
6 gain 2 seconds of resistance when you use heal skill.

You may deny it but this really just sounds like you want stuff for free.

No.

You get access to the beta slots on beta weekends. The next time these slots will be available for use is 4th September.

Sorry but this is a l2p issue.

It was covered months ago and the vast majority of people agree that it’s perfectly fine. it might take a bit of practice but it’ll end up easy for you to save your energy.

Just don’t spam the most expensive attacks.

Phase traversal is pretty spectacular in mob-heavy areas.

Even just following sparkflys and fish when underwater, it took me about 3-4 minutes to unlock all the way points in mount maelstrom just now.

Rev shield 5 is only 3 seconds. You also can’t move. All the weapon skills have a relatively low cooldown because energy management is also a factor. Shield 5 has a pretty hefty energy cost. Trust me, nobody in their right mind is going to be using this skill every 20 seconds.

There are those on the revenant forum who’d very much prefer the Rev’s shield 5 to be just a 3 second block with no root or heal. The grass is always greener on the other side, I guess.

I’d prefer fear but any CC would be nice, I suppose.

Buff CoR.

Nerf ranger longbow.

Why? Because people who cry deserve to suffer.

Azure.8670:

Nah bwe2 I face tanked and destroyed everything on my tempest but people called me a troll and said tempest is garbage go away

It was garbage in bwe2. You’re a troll.

I will never surrender. In fact, if they add a surrender button to the game, I quit.

Irenio is insane.

If Druid doesn’t get nerfed by 10,000%, I’m rerolling to ranger.

Vyriis.6258:

Not sure if you have tried yet and just can’t. But as soon as I hit f1 I am able to hit any of my utilities and they work. The animation may be there but the swap is instant.

Me too. I don’t see the issue.

I’ve recently grown quite fond of equilibrium. It’s quite good for that little extra damage when you’re bursting someone down as long as you have enough energy to get the damage from it.

But yes, I too am not seeing anything from invigorating flow. Very confusing.

It’s not even a funny joke.

How about one of every class + one random extra?

It is a pretty awful skill. It just allows the opponent to kill you more easily.

A few days ago, I was in a random match and I knew someone on the other team. The match was a draw; literally 500 to 500 when the match ended. I gained a pip, he lost a pip. Maybe it was because my team got 500 a couple of milliseconds before theirs? I don’t think we’ll ever know.

There have been games where I’ve gained a pip when I lost, lost a pip when I won, remained with the same number of pips when I won or lost.

The moral of the story is: Don’t trust the system. It is not your friend. It’s nonsense.

I am horrified that they removed 1 second from our Glint heal.

4 seconds was too much and 3 seconds is balanced?

Nay!

Roy, return what you have stolen! We will not be oppressed!

I don’t understand where you got your numbers from.

With strength runes and glint spec: Sigil of strength has a 60% to give 1 stack of might every second on crit for 16 seconds (10 seconds x (1+0.15+0.45)). so 16 × 0.6 = 9.6. You’ll get an average of 9.6 might stacks from it. Shared empowerment gives base 8 seconds of might. 8 × 1.6 = 12.8. So 12.8 might stacks if you get exactly one stack per second. Let’s say the strength runes give you exactly 1 stack of might permenently. That’s 12.8+9.6+1 = 23.4 stacks of might on average. Let’s not start thinking about things like empowering vengeance and nefarious momentum because they are just inferior choices.

Without strength runes: Sigil of strength gives 10 × 1.15 × 0.6 = 6.9 stacks of might. Shared empowerment gives 8 × 1.15 = 9.2. 9.2 + 6.9 = 16.1 stacks of might on average.

Power: Strength runes give 175 power which is equal to a 17.5% (0.1% damage per power point) base damage increase.
Ferocity: Rage runes give 175 ferocity which is equal to a 11.67% (1% damage per 15 ferocity points) damage increase but ONLY at 100% crit chance.

Let’s pretend both boons are up 100% of the time (though really, might is a lot more reliable). Both runes have an extra 5% damage increase.

So Strength runes end up at 23.4 (23.4 × 3% damage per stack = 70.2% extra damage) stacks of might, 22.5% damage.

Rage runes end up at 16.1 (16.1 × 3% damage per stack = 48.3% extra damage) stacks of might, 16.67% damage at 100% crit chance ONLY.

I do not include the increase in fury duration in to my calculations because it does not actually give you any more damage unless you can’t maintain your fury. Also in the sigil of strength calculations I just assume crit is 100% because it actually doesn’t make a difference since we’re assuming that sigil is used for both strength and rage runes in this scenario.

I definitely don’t claim to be any sort of expert on the gw2 mechanics but these numbers make a lot more sense to me.

I also will be using rage runes for some of my armour sets. I just don’t have enough money to get strength/hoelbrak for all of them and rage runes are a very good substitute.

I don’t like it when people say stuff like: “Nobody knows what to do, these professions are new” or: “You probably do too little PvP to understand”.

This is very pretentious. The game is not that complex. It’s very, very easy to learn well enough by PvP level 21 even if you’re not that smart. Veterans on this game and other similar games like to pretend that they know much more than people who’ve played less but I have to reiterate: the game is not that complex. There’s only so much to know and learn and actually I think most of us have a pretty good idea already of how to play the rev and other elite specs.

Like Ilharn said, there is counter-play. I personally promise you that counter-play exists. Stop whining and start thinking.

I want rainbow dye!

Who’s with me?!

+1

+ an extra 5 billion

TheGuy.3568:

Stop being newbs. I mean seriously l2p. DH are traps. Range them down and they die. Blow the traps with a pet or clone and don’t stand in it and they die. Rev built for DPS CAN NOT take a condi burst. They simply do not have the clearing for it. Not by a long shot. Hammer 1 is slow, clunky, and usually its the might stack that kills you. Think of Pew Pew ranger how do you counter them?

There will always be some build you all think is OP. How OP it is is not based on how hard it is for you to handle it but based on the skills you and your team have available to do so. DD ele was such a pain because it could handle most things that should counter it. The ones you mention now are susceptible to some hard counters. So it becomes the same old thing. Are you willing to counter it or wait for a nerf and a new target to complain about?

Often you guys get advice in these threads. Ignore it and continue the moan train all the while someone else went into the game applied it and started winning. The pattern is the same over and over yet most of you are still in the same spot doing the same thing and still can’t adapt. You have played enough pvp to get the title but truth is most of you are the same kitten guys you were 3 years ago with 0 growth. There will always be a meta start learning to adapt to it because the next nerf will not be the last. The game is constantly changing and you will never be satisfied because you never learn. go on beg for your nerfs and watch a new meta pop and another reason to type angrily into the key board.

You are my hero.