Guild Wars 2

Most of the Anet staff are working with the Chinese cash cow version. Don’t be shocked if LS season 2 sucks.

I must have missed the memo about being excited for LS season 2.

The two red posts just confirms what most of us already know. Anet has no clue what’s going on, and doesn’t bother reading what their player base writes.

Not a personal attack on Danica, or whomever it is, but seriously, this patch is 80% a joke, and the rest, just an opportunity for people who missed prior skins and content to get caught up.

Maybe there will be a worthwhile patch sometime this year. Thank god I don’t have to pay a subscription. I’d be cancelling otherwise.

Just waiting for something better.

With the debut in China, their NA/EU market is secondary. They will make three times the money there (or more), that could ever make elsewhere.

I can almost guarantee that they shifted all their veteran staff to the development and maintenance of the China game. In my opinion, you can see signs of that already. Look at the Lawless armor on the gem shop. It’s absolute garbage. It looks like it was designed as a project in a computer design class.

The Queen’s Pavilion is just more proof of that. If you’ve been there since tuesday, you’ll know what I mean.

They’re probably running the NA/EU segment on a skeleton crew. I wouldn’t expect much for the rest of the year. I know I’m not expecting anything, except more of the same. Thankfully, summer is close and I can enjoy it fully. (well, mowing the lawn, and yard work isn’t fun, but there’s more than just that :P )

You must be encountering some sort of bug. I spent around 10 minutes in EB, testing to see what causes the stacks to vanish. I have a Sigil of Perception on my Shortbow, and one on my underwater spear. No matter what combination I tried (jumping in the water with my speargun as the equipped weapon, and vice versa with spear), my stacks remained, even when leaving the water to my P/D weapon set.

I also tried using the available WPs and my stacks remained. I suspect there’s something else at play, perhaps something specific to a zone or weapon set combination.

Thieves guild works well for a venom share build in a one on one situation. Properly specced, you, with your thieves, can drop up to 12 stacks of Skale venom on someone. If they don’t or can’t clear it, watch them do the wicked witch of the west vs. a water bucket.

I haven’t experienced any issues losing stacks using a WP in the same zone, but I found that unless you have the same stacking sigil on one of your underwater weapons, you lose the stack.

Underwater weapons are now considered their own weapon sets, totally separate from surface weapons, so you’ll need to re-purchase whatever one you use.

At least you can put two sigils on an underwater weapon, for minimal impact there. If you use only one handed weapons for your surface sets, you’re going to lose something if you want to keep the stacking sigil.

Auesis.7301:

Percentage needs to be raised in WvW and sPvP, but it really doesn’t need a buff for any reason in PvE, as it’s beyond broken as it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3Pwv-26t60

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzG6fXTktVg

I think it’d make more sense to make the heal a life leech, instead of simply a heal, and keep it at 5%.

vincecontix.1264:

dp SA still counters pd.

I’ve found that running a power P/D build does better against D/P. It’s still at a disadvantage, but more often than not, if the D/P is somewhat glassy, you can push them off. You’ll likely never catch them if they back off, but you don’t suffer as much as a condi P/D build would.

It also kind of surprises them a bit sometimes. People expect a condi build.

lol, you know it’s a sad state of affairs when people complain about stolen skills now. Last time, it was the stolen stun (bone crack).

People will not be happy until thieves are walking loot bags. If stolen fear is causing you to lose, it’s a L2P issue.

It’s one thing to put a lot of armor skins on the gemstore to make money. That helps generate revenue. It’s quite another to put QUALITY armor skins on the gemstore.

The recent Lawless armor put on there is garbage. Awful looking, low res, no imagination. Did they hire fresh out of school designers to save money? Seriously, all the Lawless stuff is horrid, and I’d be surprised if anyone bought it.

It’s as if they aren’t even trying anymore, and put the whole game on auto pilot.

Sigil of Leeching deals 974 fixed damage at lvl 80. Toughness won’t mitigate this, so all you really need to find is another source of damage that does up to 1K damage roughly.

Mug, CnD + Shadow Strike should get you the rest, even with high toughness.

I don’t run into many Diamond skin eles really. I flip flop between a power and condi p/d build, so it’s possible those times I did, I was using a power build.

Shinjo.6092:

Has anyone ran into a Diamond Skin ele with this build? I’ve ran into a few and usually it’s almost impossible to get enough damage into them to bring them below the 90% threshold.

There are some things you can do to punch through that diamond skin. Let’s assume that the Ele has 20K health, for an even number. (I haven’t really run into many with this much health though).

1. Sigil of Leeching – weapon swap for 975 damage and healing.
2. Mug – Even as a cond. user, this does ~400-600 damage.
3. Thieves Guild
4. Leeching Venoms – I’m not sure if this will work. It does ~400 per venom chanrge used. The condition might not apply, but the damage and health leech might still punch through.

If you have enough crit chance (via rabid gear etc.), consider Sigil of Air or some other damaging proc.

A steal —> Shadow Strike combo (with mug) deals around 1200 total for me for my condi build. Combine that with something else, then apply your bleeds and such fast. They will stay if they go above 90%, and help with the next push to get them below 90%.

Runes of Aristocracy. Just about the same thing, with cond. damage instead of power, 3 stacks of might on heal and no bonus damage.

Free too, just a time investment.

I have equipped, Sigils of Battle and Sigils of Doom. After the april 15th patch, both are supposed to work at the same time, yet only one or the other will work, whichever set that I most recently swapped (equipped) in.

This happens even after swapping all of them in and out, in any combination.

I’m a thief, running a P/D + P/D combination, btw.

I’m working on my own 100% condition duration, but it goes 30 deep into Deadly arts. Panic Strike turns into an 8 second immobilize when they hit 50% health. :P

Tachii.3506:

Fade.7658:

Tachii.3506:

Well in guild raids, a thief is primarily using SB for poison fields and blast finishers. Usually a power build is better since you can swap to S/P or D/P to kill squishies on the sidelines. P/D doesn’t really have that option.

You can actually see some decent damage with P/D.

Lead in with a CnD for 3Kish, Sneak Attack for around 2.5K-3K, Shadow shot for around 3K, then steal with mug for 1.5k-2k and another Shadow shot for 3k. Auto attacks are around 1K.

It’s not backstab damage, but it;s decent.

CnD does 3k with a dire set? :| That’d have to be crit right? Which dire set has like maybe 30~% crit chance at best? Or would you have Rabid with Dire stuff on? :o

No, sorry. That’s my power/life leech setup critting (~53% crit chance). A dire setup hits like a wet noodle.

I am working on a condition set with enough crit chance to be able to use Sigil of Blood/Signet of Malice/Omnom Pies, but still maintain a good cond damage/duration setup. The plan is to have decent healing out of stealth to match the good healing whilst in stealth. So far, I’ve gotten a 1650 cond dam./50% duration, with 41% crit chance with ~19K health and ~2900 armor. I plan on running a Sigil of Generosity in addition to the sigil of blood as well.

Preliminary testing with an incomplete setup is showing decent results, at least on PvE test subjects.

Speed runes are a nice alternative. Cheaper too.

Tachii.3506:

Well in guild raids, a thief is primarily using SB for poison fields and blast finishers. Usually a power build is better since you can swap to S/P or D/P to kill squishies on the sidelines. P/D doesn’t really have that option.

You can actually see some decent damage with P/D.

Lead in with a CnD for 3Kish, Sneak Attack for around 2.5K-3K, Shadow shot for around 3K, then steal with mug for 1.5k-2k and another Shadow shot for 3k. Auto attacks are around 1K.

It’s not backstab damage, but it;s decent.

So much cleansing in zerg/blob fights. I found that if you really want to make a difference, you need to run a power build in those situations.

I’m running a power P/D + SB build with Sigil of Blood, SoM, Omnom Pie and Invigorating Precision, and have been finding that I make more of a difference in large fights, and survivability is excellent with so much life steal/gain during visible periods, and the usual healing for stealth.

I typically run a heavy condition P/D build, but I wanted to try something different.

I’m guessing that the number of bonus chests that have been awarded, at least to myself, is a bug.

If you’re a condition build, I can see the uses this new trait would have. Couple it with the new and improved Runes of Balthazar for easy access to two conditions thieves traditionally don’t have access to.

Use your heal (causing burning), Sneak attack, Shadow Strike, then steal and shadow strike once more. If traited correctly, you’ll have dumped burning, bleeding, torment, confusion and poison on your target.

Edit: Sigil of Frailty is good for laying a cover condition, with it’s 2s CD and 50% chance of proccing on hit. I tested it, and it’s almost always up. Chill and Fear are about the only conditions now that aren’t easily applied often now, and you can get the sigil of ice for chill, albeit on a 2-3s duration.

6/10. Would not read again.

I’m kind of curious what the thief community has come up with post-patch, given the new traits and updated runes/sigils.

I’m trying the Runes of Balthazar, coupled with Bewildering Ambush as part of my tried and true P/D setup. Confusion and 5-6 second burning, on a 27/30 second CD. Added Sigils of Energy to my Sigil of Doom setup.

Try administrator mode.

Why not make it so supply traps deal damage to any golems that are caught in it?

The hybrid experiment I’m testing (brought here by the newer hybrid thread posted earlier https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Thieves-are-meant-to-be-hybrids-O/first#post3886269 ):

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/thief/?7.0|a.5q.h1n.8.5q.h1.d12.0.d12|5.1q.h1.0.0.0|5q.71m.5q.71m.5q.71m.5q.71m.5q.71m.5q.71m.d16.d16.d16.d16.d16.d16|2v.d13.2t.d13.3t.d16.1h.67.1h.67.2w.d12|0.u63b.u46b.0.a4|30.1|57.5b.5c.5g.0|e

Add the following stats for WvW rank bonuses and bloodlust sigil:

power: 350,
condition damage: 100,
vitality: 250,

2560×1080 is supported. That’s the resolution I play on.

Ultra-wide 29" monitor? I’m running the AoC 29", and wouldn’t go back to 1920×1080 for anything.

BurrTheKing.8571:

Fade.7658:

lol, a warrior asking for nerfs for another profession.

Pot and kettle, and all that.

Weakest argument I’ve heard in a while. I MAIN Warrior, I do not ONLY play Warrior. My other class in Engi which actually has the best chance vs Thieves. I don’t even know why I dignified this with a response because you offered nothing of value.

This “War player so clearly has no right to discuss balance” crap is getting really old. You are trying to draw attention away from the discussion by making a personal attack.

My post may have had nothing of value, but your didn’t either. Other people have no problems killing thieves with both warriors and other professions (which are widely recognized to be sub-par compared to warriors). I win some, I lose some, against most classes. I’m an average player at best.

If you can’t kill thieves as a warrior, instead of blaming thieves, try blaming yourself instead. Obviously, judging by a few posts, you are an ardent anti-thief poster who is either unable to learn how to beat thieves, or believes you shouldn’t have to.

Take your pick.

tldr: Just another whine from someone who can’t be bothered to make an effort to learn.

lol, a warrior asking for nerfs for another profession.

Pot and kettle, and all that.

There are a million other threads about stealth. Try one of those.

I have a very similar system, although my video card is a 570 GTX, and merely different brands of the other non-cpu components. I run a 29" ultra-wide monitor at 2560×1080 resolution.

You should get decent results with that rig.

These are my settings:

“For Frodo……..”

Scavenger are a better bet, more extra +condi damage, and the healing procs from the rune set are nice.

Apparently, warrior tears taste better than thief tears.

Winpower. It’s a no-name brand that may cause you heartbreak down the road. Your power supply isn’t something to cheap out on. The specs you listed indicate that you have a very lower power requirement. I was running a GTX 460 on a 430W power supply, and that draws a whole lot more than a 440 card.

I know you said money was tight. What is your limit? There are quality power supplies out there for decent money. If money is REALLY tight, check out craigslist or something.

Antec and Seasonic make excellent power supplies, and you can get a 500W for under $60 from Newegg. As Grimm said, I doubt it’s a lack of power, but more of a bad power supply. Unless you plan on doing major upgrades, another 500W supply will do you fine, and if you get a good one, you’ll find that it will support a lot more than a Winpower one of higher wattage rating.

If you’re comfortable buying a Winpower supply, that will do the job. I merely recommend my customers to go with better known brands.

Here’s a short list of companies you won’t go wrong with:

Antec
Seasonic (they actually make most of Antec’s)
Corsair
EVGA

There are other good companies as well, but these are the ones I build systems with.

Are you using the software that came with the mouse? I had a Logitech M510 that I had issues with, and tried this and it worked like a charm, even on my old Microsoft mouse that wasn’t programmable.

http://www.highrez.co.uk/downloads/XMouseButtonControl.htm

It all depends on the store. I went into Microcenter, and the salesman asked me what I was looking for, and helped me find it. He then asked me what I was trying to accomplish, and made suggestions. They get commission on anything they sell, so they don’t care if you buy AMD or Intel.

I was going to go with the I5-3570K, and he asked a few questions, and suggested the Haswell 4670K, which I ended up buying. Overall a good buying experience.

The link I gave you does have the ability to set up specific templates for individual games. I have one for general windows, and one only specific for Guild Wars 2. I dabbled with the logitech software but I cannot recall if it had the ability to do specific games only.

TC is essentially the spiritual successor to SoR, without the “We play for fights only” mantra.

Btw, that’s not an accusation, merely a statement.

8200 dpi is a lot, you may not have any other option but to turn the dpi down some. There are a couple other programs similar to the one I linked, but I’ve never tried them.

Try this, I use it for button management, and it does have settings for mouse speed:

http://www.highrez.co.uk/downloads/XMouseButtonControl.htm

Venomshare is pretty potent solo as well, as a condition build with thieves guild. For kicks, I made some changes, and people pretty much melt from condition overload if they have no clears or limited clears.

Shadow Arts: Resilience of Shadows – Stealth you apply reduces 50% incoming attack damage.

This will work well with Instinctual Response and Last Refuge (if it works correctly for a change), especially from say, a 100-blades that manages to get one in on you. Merciful Ambush would benefit as well (even though no one takes this trait)

If Runes of Perplexity don’t undergo any changes, 30 Trickery will cause some cries when coupled with them. Scorpion Wire for the interrupt, then Steal for another 5 stacks, for 10 stacks + a possible 3 extra for the 4 set ability.

Liking the Shadow Arts and Trickery GM traits (I run a 10/0/30/0/30 build). I can at last, drop Perplexity runes (I’ve been wanting to for some time, but sadly most other runes don’t compare) and the extra 5.5 second CD is marginal.

Anyone else starting to get the same old sinking sensation in their stomach when a balance pass comes round?

This already happens to some extent in the Edge of the Mists. I’ve seen guards man the cannons at the various towers.

A few minutes ago, the zerg I was running with crashed into another (this is T1), and while the fight went on, I was going target to target, and I literally targeted 12 Warriors before I was able to target a non-warrior class.

Sorry, but something is off when you see one profession more than any other regularly.

Sanduskel.1850:

Kadin.2356:

How about realizing that any competent player can curb stomp a thief and a change is unnecessary. The only ones in danger are the glass damage dealers. Rock meet paper.

This type of unbridled arrogance is another reason most players hate our class.

Oh, the irony.