Guild Wars 2

Allie.9268:

Thanks for keeping us updated Mark, Jessica & team!

I think we’re all excited to get our delicious rewards from the tournament, but I’m sure you guys are busting your butts to figure the bug out so no worries.

Don’t stress about all the complaining. GW2 is a fantastic game and a lot of people take it for granted and don’t realize that humans are behind it.

Much love!

Agree. I mean a glowy weapon is important….who doesn’t like a glowy? Get the bug corrected and then release the fancy new skins…because if you release it early, and there are bugs, the complaining will be much much worse.

Very good point …and a good idea.

I sit back and watch Thieves from my server terrorize small groups to mini zergs. That way I can actually get an idea what the Thief is doing since I can see him even when stealthed. Thief kills someone, stealths, teleports away and watches from total safety as the zerg runs around like a chicken with it’s head cutoff using aoes and swinging their weapons in the air. Laughable.

The biggest problem isn’t stealth …or mobility…it’s stealthed mobility. Daoc had it right. Even though they had perma stealth, your mobility was severly hampered. Your movement speed was maybe 50% slower than not stealthed.

GW2 ? Two different shadowsteps that teleport you 1200+ units away in a blink. Spam heartseekers…use SB and you can put a ton of distance between you and the enemy. Never mind Fleet shadows that is a 50% movement speed while in stealth…..which is kind of weird imo. The fastest movement speed in the game is while stealthed ? Hopefully I have that wrong.

So the Thieves that come on here telling us to use AOE …yea right. Unless you have a 1200 unit aoe spell I don’t know about good luck hitting a thief with it.

Currently there is zero penalty to be stealthed. No movement speed penalty and zero counters. Plus when you are stealthed you can’t even be damaged to take you out of stealth. Yes, you can get hit while in stealth ….but you are also likely under a very strong regen and condition removal….and as mentioned earlier, very unlucky if you do take a ton of damage while stealthed with all the mobility.

Very poor game design.

Stealth in GW2 is pretty much total immunity.

XII.9401:

Gotta congratulate the Anet team on the stellar design of the class. They will be remembered in the MMO community for years to come as the guys who came up with the most broken stealth class in history.

Oh by the way..it was not what they intended initially. Takes a special dev to kitten up that much.

Sad but true. Anet has introduced some original and unique ideas for these types of games. Their stealth concept is a dismal failure. The poster is correct. When new games get released the common refrain will be …I hope stealth isn’t as kittened up as it was on gw2.

Same old cliches being used over and over. L2P ..get some skills n00b ….roll a thief and practice etc etc. Those comments all completely miss the point.

There are more players that can’t deal with a thief than those that can. New players especially. They buy the game, level to 80 and head to WvW to check it out. They bump into a Ranger and lose the fight. They got a few hits in and thought it was fun. They head right back out and bump into a Necro. They chase him around, gets a few hits in but still dies. Share the experience with guildies. Has a good laugh. Heads out again and wham…dead. WTF ? Doesn’t even see what hit him or have a chance to react. Hrmm, that wasn’t fun.

Heads out again. Same thing. A invisable enemy takes him out in 4 seconds, then taunts him till he releases. Definitely not fun.

Now that player has a decision to make. Put the time in to get better, or not participate in WvW. Even when he gets better, and can at least somewhat compete vs Thieves, it’s still not fun. Win or lose, for most people, it’s not fun fighting an enemy that can constantly go invisable.

Most people can handle losing. They know they will never be the best player but still have fun. Thieves suck the fun right out of WvW. Daoc went through the same thing when released. Stealth was way overpowered but they eventually fixed it. I think anet realizes it also and will slowly make the changes to correct their flawed version of stealth.

…and yes, Ranger has a few issues. Nothing that a couple of tweaks wouldn’t fix. It’s nowhere near as kittenome people think.

The past few days I have been receiving this message when I try and go to the forums using Google Chrome …

Sorry, this area isn’t available yet. Please check back later. Try going back home?

Strangely IE it works.

Ideas?

Thanks

Dee Jay.2460:

Since WvW queues are no longer a deterrent the servers have started cannibalizing each other.

The good servers feed off the medicore ones leaving behind a bare skeleton of what was. There’s no incentive to stick to crappy servers outside of some form of loyalty. The points-per-tick system makes coverage the all-decisive measure of success.

WvW population is also down this week simply because farming Lion’s Arch is so kitten lucrative.

WvW population will also take another dip when Elder Scrolls Online launches in 6 weeks time. But that’s nothing you can stop.

So yeah, it’s going to be a rough WvW for the coming weeks and I don’t see much change ahead.

Agree

I question the ability of Anet developers to actually think ahead before making a change. More and more people transfering to the larger servers because of it. Anet were blind if they didn’t see this coming. Combine with new content and WvW is a joke.

It’s almost as if they have conceded the WvW concept to EOS and daoc unleased, because they sure do everything in their power to ignore it.

Sicarius.4639:

Was there a hotfix on pets dying instantly as well?

Also waiting on this

Nike.2631:

Troll build is systematically not functional. Fire runes on a build that has no access to burning, signet cooldown trait with no signets.

Ha ha. Very funny for values of “funny” that include “stupid”.

People thought Einstein was crazy also. Innovators are often ridiculed.

That is outrageous. People that actually defend a keep and are weird enough to use ACs to help them defend? What’s this game coming to.

Aidenwolf.5964:

Latinkuro.9420:

you are aware that the triple wurm event is what is called an open world RAID right ?
as such it is designed with meta builds in mind and made as hard as possible to beat using mentioned meta builds, now imagine trying to beat that kind of content with your idea of fun build? from that perspective I say if you wanna run your cookie have fun build don’t go trying to join a RAID !

You’re aware that there is nothing they could’ve done to make me leave right? I left because I’m tired of hearing meta talk. Speed runs are one thing, this is open world, and 90% of the time even with full meta, you fail.

Don’t try to join a raid? 100 uplevels could hop in a zone.

People that spam the word “meta” are also a member of a flock of sheep.

Doomdesire.9365:

If you didn’t want the other servers to gang up on you then you shouldn’t have

-Tanked pre seasons in hopes of getting more guilds
-Use deceit and lies to recruit
-Stack way more than beyond what was “needed”
-Bought guilds using money

….and troll like a kitten on the other matchup forums with the ‘beastgate’ bs.

chronometria.3708:

I wonder how long this will take to resolve. On Piken Square hardly any of us are logging on for the current matchup, mainly because the one thing we worked for – we didn’t get, so nobody sees the point of it at the moment.

I am stuck in my radiant outfit with a big red sword and its painful having to run around without the mistforge weapon I adjusted my wardrobe for.

There is no sense of closure to the season and it is making play an unpleasant experience.

This gets my vote for post of the year !

To each their own….and 2 shotting someone is anything but fluid.

I like the change.

saalle.4623:

I tried WS and played it for hole like 5 min…that animation is just horrible.I deleted game and wont go there even when it turns to FTP

Beyond horrible. I don’t care how good a game is. Buzz Lightyear cartoon characters are not an option.

Aridia.3042:

Terravos.4059:

This game needs a PTS like every other bloody game does

Take SWTOR, it has a PTS, and when they were getting ready to add a really overpowered ability to Sniper in the coming patch, the PTS showed how overpowered it would be.

a Competitive PvP game with no PTS for the population to test and point out overpowered stuff before hand? Completely stupid

This 1000×.

It’s lol really. Like a perpetual beta test on live.

lol I was just thinking about an aircraft maker having that philosophy.

“Hey Bob, I have a great idea on a new wing design”
“Sounds like a great idea Frank. Lets implement it”

6 months later

“Hey Bob, my idea didn’t work out very well. 9 planes have crashed and thousands have died”
“That is awful Frank. Lets fix it. I have an idea how e can do it”
“Should we test it first?”
“lol why?”

Poor Robert. He’s gotta feel like the last single girl available when last call is announced.

Dustin.2793:

If you like trolls you should love the GW2 developers. Best I’ve seen.

You stole my line. GW2 is a good game, but some of the things they implement I would bet money the devs are watching us rage while they rofl

Bryzy.2719:

Now that Allie Murdock, the only person who had an in depth understanding of what was said in the Ranger CDI is leaving. Sure, she may have passed on ideas to the devs but they didn’t get half as involved as she did. Ah well, I have no problems sticking with my condi bunker for at least the next year.

Sarcasm?

As nice as she seems, her knowledge of Rangers was next to nil. She was a PR gatekeeper for that thread. That’s it.

meta =obnoxious over used word.

lordhelmos.7623:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0n8N98mpes

ok, that really made me laugh !

To easy for the attackers. I am guessing Anet wants it that way to make sure keeps/towers change ownership often.

I would prefer taking a tower/keep to mean something. Currently all it is is the enemy does a circuit taking towers/keeps. They don’t upgrade or siege it up, they just move on to next target. The realm that lost the towers/keeps plays follow the leader and retakes everything in the order it was originally taken.

Defenders should have more of an advantage.

Kronos Zek.9715:

testpig.5018:

wow, i used to think Sekz had some stand up players.. very mistaken.

I wonder if Rekz is just gonna transfer up another tier again to finally be able to move up.

I love how Zerg servers think they are winning because of skill instead of just mass numbers. =P

#newsflash

I can count all the good BP players on 1 hand, your server isn’t that great should just go down a tier so I don’t have to look at your masses of zerg babies anymore. #realtalk

The facts are that BP and AR are well placed in this tier based on their populations and WvW tactics. I don’t think either server has illusions of climbing the ranks any time soon.

EB is the interloper. They are obviously in a different weight class. Yet here you are grouped in the same tier as a bunch of “bads”. There are 12 servers ranked higher than you and 11 ranked lower. You are a middle of the pack server. Yes Glicko is a little slow in reacting but it is the same for all servers. You’re like a varsity player that can’t cut it among his peers so drops down to the JV team and wtfpwns everyone. Then flexes and talks smack.

Go hard for 2-3 weeks, raise your score, and move up a tier. The sad thing is, EB has some fantastic players and good guys that are great to talk to and shoot the breeze with. All it takes is a few meathead internet warriors to ruin a servers reputation ….as you so often remark about BP.

Deli.1302:

You’d have to be stupid to think that megaservers for wvw wouldn’t create a horrible mess of clashing personalities, awful communication and population inequalities.

Sounds exactly like WvW now.

No win scenario for Anet

1. Try to match similar strength servers to battle each other = people complain about lack of variety.

2. More random matchups = people complain about fighting servers that are way stronger/weaker than their own. Too many blowouts.

I’m sure Anet, and all of us, would love to hear the solution. Complaining is easy, obviously. Tougher to solve the issue.

Daecollo.9578:

So my thief just downed a ranger.

After almost downing it, the rangers pet interrupts me, then starts chasing me around as I try and kill it. Then downs me with a 6k hit.

Then it proceeds to rez the downed ranger, then they both destroy me.

Fun fun fun!

Tough one. Maybe play your Warrior instead ?

Wait, you are quitting him also cause he is also underpowered. Sorry. My bad.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/Taking-my-Warrior-out-of-PvP/first#post1935062

Oddoad.5478:

No, but what I am saying is that this is going to kill the bow ranger, bow rangers precision and crit dmg are our only viable options, sure if you want throw some survivability in there until you learn situational positioning, and how to survive. But for a ranger that’s really your best option. Take that out by reducing the amount of damage we can do and now we are 100% useless in zerg fights. Our pets don’t last through the AOE fields in zerg fights as is, and that’s supposedly 20% of our dmg? Now take 10% off a damage build and we just lost everything that makes us viable, while still being ranged, yes we can switch to other builds, but not bow based and still be viable, across the board or no this change hits us harder then them. I can throw at least 4 different zerg damage builds for each and every other class. We had ONE viable option and its being nerfed. That’s where my anger originates, I don’t want to be anything but RANGED on a kitten RANGER.

- Your lack of understanding how the math works….strike one.
- LB Ranger that has his pets die in zerg AOE? ..strike two
- 4 different zerg damage build for every class? lol ..strike three

Any commander that talks like that about any class is a waste of time. Very high chance he is a PvE special that farmed his way to his commander tag. In a ZvZ scenario a good commander will take whatever he can get. The only time they might get a bit specific is reset night when they prefer all level 80’s.

All the other trait trees should be like Wilderness Survival. Where there are many things you would like to take but can only choose 3.

Edit: …and I have still yet to understand how all the trap traits are put into skirmishing…which increases crit chance and crit damage.

I always knew that Ranger traits were a little disorganized but it just now really hit home. I have been sharing my time between Ranger, Elementalist and warrior …along with sub 80 alts. I do a lot of theory crafting when bored at work.

What I realized when picking traits for my other classes was how difficult it was. There are so many good things that I want to take but can only take 3 choices from a particular tree. Was just looking at the Ranger choices and noticed for some trees I am taking traits that I don’t really want or need…because there is nothing better.

Seriously, try some theory crafting with other classes. It is night and day tougher because of the options and how well each tree syncs with what you are trying to do.

I have 4 level 80’s. Only used in WvW. I am a build theory craft junkie so I buy lots of different equipment and weapons. Makes it easier to change builds which I do quite often.

I am building up my necro who is at level 52. My bank is pretty much full so I decide I need more storage for his stuff. I find out that I am maxed out for bank slots at 12. Can’t buy anymore?

So I have stopped leveling my Necro since I know there is no room for his stuff when he hits 80.

Apparently Anet doesn’t want any more of my money. Not sure of any reasonable solutions since I use pretty much all of the EQ/Weapons in my bank.

RyuDragnier.9476:

From what I’ve seen, the main problem everybody has with pets is that melee cannot hit worth a kitten . I’ve seen pets actually do reliable damage while Moa Morphed, and it’s because the Moa attacks have a 250 range, compared to the pitiful 130 melee normally has. This is the key to fixing the pet, increase that melee range of the pet to 250. They’ll hit more reliably, and they will be easier to balance for in terms of damage because you’ll see more consistent hits. If this means changing the range of all the similar creatures in the wild (brown bears, jungle stalkers, jaguars, etc) to the same thing, so be it, it’s about time PvE got a little more challenging.

Completely agree. Increased range might do the trick

Criminal.5627:

I would still like to see anet buff pets to the point that was near the damage output in GW1 with 16 beatmastery when you put 30 points in the current rendition of the beastmastery trait line… Also if we could get a list of ideas they had taken from the thread so we knew were to focus the rest of the week it would be grand.

The people screaming to remove pets still need a slap in the back of the head cause they are kittening off people who are trying to post ideas on how to fix the pet mechanics or possible ways to fix pet mechanics.

It’s not that Rangers don’t want the pets. The problem is they don’t work…and Anet says they can’t fix it. Since that is the case. What is the solution slap boy?

a t s e.9614:

If the thief is so overpowered then why:

- wvw blobs are 80% war/guard
- top pvp teams only use 1 thief
- most roamers rerolled to engineer ( better 1vXcapability)
- lfg post says heavy only

So the logic is to nerf a class that is good at only fulfilling 1 role> high burst roamer ( single target) . Look I main a warrior and I can tell you thief is not OP. They are just incredibly good at one thing but thats the only thing they are able to do.

Guardian has the absolute best support in the game . Dosent mean it needs a nerf

And seriously be honest, most of the times you get ganked by a thief its not even a true 1v1, he gets you while you are unaware of the situation. In actual 1v1 thief has many hard counters such as necro / engi and meditation guard.

Thief class is annoying? Yes. Its frustrating? Yes Its spammy? Yes Is it OP? No

So thats basicly it. The class is so broken then why only few people play it? If something was ridiculously OP we would see 5 thief vs 5 thief in solo Q and zergs of thieves in wvw and dungeons asking for thieves only thats my point.

Won’t even comment about whether a thief is over powered or not. You have acknowledged though what many people say. It’s not fun fighting thieves. Win or lose.

Games are supposed to be fun…enjoyable. It should have no place for an “annoying, frustrating, spammy class”.

You think it is griefing or trolling …others think it is funny. Just depends on your perspective or opinion. Anet gives a lot of leeway to griefers/trolls. Especially since many things that Anet have put in the game are in my opinion trolling and griefing. they get a good laugh out of it. So again …perspective.

This would look fantastic on my male Norn Warrior

Aza.2105:

Happened to me awhile ago. Here is the damage log:

I think I was wearing a cleric amulet, with 13k hp. I’m amazed Anet allows that type of skill to stay as it is.

For the longest time I also was amazed that Anet has ignored this. I’m not surprised anymore after watching a few twitch episodes. Being trolled by a player is one thing. Being trolled by the developer is another.

MrPersons.1560:

its only the vocal minority, everyone I have seen in game, including a max character limit guild all like the patch except for a few.

Unfortunately that minority is very vocal. I should have bought some stocks in Kleenex Tissues before the patch.

I think it was a Prysin post that made a lot of sense. Before everyone here starts writing walls of text giving their opinion on what needs changing we should be asking Anet what their “current” vision of the class is. How they think the class should perform. Once we have that, then we can tell them where they fall short.

Logically that is the best and most common sense way of doing it.

Aridia.3042:

Chrispy.5641:

Aridia.3042:

Chrispy.5641:

Unfortunately, no.

Because of the new Survival of the Fittest trait, it can cure 2 conditions in addition to immobilize (and the usual evade and stunbreaker). It would be OP if it removed 5 conditions on use.

My ele clears more condi with just a single heal, and I don’t have to trait anything. When I trait for water and EA, I can get rid of 3 more on top of that….

And the Ele has lower overall health, and lower overall armor. More Condi removal is kind of a requirement for that class. (Also, Ether Renewal is somewhat vulnerable to interrupts, even though it can remove alot of conditions. Most Ranger Survival Skills (as well as signet of renewal) are instant and wont be weak to that.) While people want a profession to have more of this and that, I would say the balance is not that bad right now.

You speak as if there’s reason behind that balance. Pray tell, how do you explain the warrior then which has better HP/Armor/Condi removal than the ranger? You’re projecting things that are not really there.

I don’t know what game you’ve been playing if you think the classes are balanced.

No one cares about spvp so please don’t bring that up.

This has always been and will be my litmus test: can you solo roam as a power ranger on wvw and do is successfully? The answer is a resounding no, ever since the inception of this game.

I think what you, and many others would like to see is ..

1. Pick a class. It really doesn’t mater what class because it’s just a name…because there is only:
-1 trait tree in the game
-You can use every weapon in the game
- You can use any armor you want. Light, medium or heavy.

That way everyone would be the same (except for the class name). Everyone would be welcome in groups in all phases of the game.

Sounds fantastic !

Either super servers are coming or contractions/clusters(daoc) are coming. I lived through the daoc clusters, and WvW feels exactly the same as daoc felt before the clusters.

For me it was being forced to play one way …by both the community and the way rewards are distributed. Many many players like the Scouting…defending…upgrading part of the game. That play style loses money at the end of the night…gets very little eperience….and gets mocked by the community. You can even get hate tells from both your server and the enemy server ….“WTH you doing by defending!?!?. You are slowing down the karma train” Those type of players don’t last long in this game.

Class envy. It’s why all developers end up avoiding the forums. Impossible to stop the whinning.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/WHY-ON-EARTH-WOULD-YOU-BUFF-RANGER-PETS

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Why-is-ranger-pet-better-then-Warrior/first#post1934214

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Rangers-New-fotm/first#post1933512

tldr: Rangers feel they are kitten and Anet hates them. Other claases think Rangers O/P and gets too much love from Anet. Both groups are going to quit then slit their wrists.

It’s one think to make a mistake trying out an idea that no one has tried before. The first true WvW game, Daoc, made the same mistake that Anet is doing now. Spreading the WvW out by adding more places for people to go.

The new genre of games are supposed to learn from past mistakes from other games. Apparently Anet hasn’t learned that lesson.

Add to the error is now people on “super servers” never have motivation to leave …and people on lower population servers are actually rewarded by leaving.

It’s fairly obvious by game design there are two different design camps in Anet that compete with each other. How else to explain regular WvW maps with this abomination? I understand some people will prefer this style map but the point is ..
You simply can’t be all things to all people

Another mistake that Anet is making that others have made in the past.

What is a personal guild bank?

Storage mules can hold exotic equipment that has been used by another character?

How many more bag slots can you buy? I thought it was just 1 more?

Wall fighting the defenders should have the advantage. They don’t in GW2.

Chrispy.5641:

Forzani.2584:

How many times have you been in WvW on any class that you have built for full defense. A Thief comes by and gives you a few shots. Realizes that you have high toughness/HPs so disengages by stealthing and looks for a softer target. He doesn’t have to pay for being glass like other classes do.

happens every time.

Also, Rangers are Second Best at everything, but are Number 1 at Nothing. We aren’t even number one at being a pet class. Necromancers make a better pet class than we do.

So they are number 1 at something.

Splatter Paw.7238:

Lol needed a good laugh today ty. You realize a backstab thief is probably one of the most predictable builds in the game right. Stealth into BS everytime normally, it’s no mystery what he’s gonna do from stealth.

lol you seriously went there. Could you have more oxymoron comments in your post?

…“stealth into BS every time ……normally” …huh?
…“no mystery what he’s gonna do from stealth”….. Well it is kind of a mystery since, you know, you can’t see him ?

^^^

That is a very good suggestion.