YouTube channel RarizGaming Gw2/Heroes of the storm Beta
http://youtu.be/W7hWjRetPDo?list=PLDSrFjXKFzmkxIY-VsFFESqLFgrnBEFhg
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Problem is that we need to get our burst to do it on good player you need some kind of CC (wolfs fear is strongest). It is also group fear so better use it when there is more then one person around you.
I do not agree that you should swap to Gs as last resort I feel quit opposite you are suppose to rotate to it finish target, put pressure as long you have advantage or you go signet of stone. There is not many things more devastating then maul on few people trying to stomp you teammate.
Also if you want to take someone from point you do not need to use only point blank shot. Use cc, Rapid, LB stealth, swap ,Gs3, Maul,stun, GS1 you most likely will bait from melee attack which will knock him far. Then either fear, root or point blank and Rapid.
I love Gs and without it you have only rapid + auto attack so you got squishy class without burst. That is not much.
Of course in WvW you can kite till end of world but in sPVP you want to win and to get that you need those kitten points.
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@Ybrahim Nice find with sigil of purity i will check it out with my melee build which is under development. Rampage is nice with Power build but Entagle is beast especially with fury + condi removal talent which I love for both of my Condi and Power specs. Trapper for WvW with runes of trapper is also blast I wish it would be possible for sPVP.
With torch remember to use off hand training with torch big difference is size of ring and range.
This build I have been using lately for condi feel it is very strong SB/Sword+torch
You can check it on my channel if you like it is lots of fun. I will make melee next but still tweaking it bit and testing my ideas.
http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAV8fjMqUzaLLOsQ1iABhaVA0sGSWWJg789H+6CW9A-TZRHwABuIAJLDI4IAA4BAEa/BA
There is so point in what you saying. Still I am very interested how this moba mode will pan out. If that is going be something like Smite then it will be ok. Adding additional mechanics is not best idea for me unless this gonna be so crucial that both teams will get to them then yes they will bring more intense action. Hard to tell we need to try and see. Remember Gw2 is most objective oriented mmo pvp which is good.
There is one problem for some reason they allowed random arenas but they did not bring mode where you can have simple deathmatch to cater everybody and to make other builds viable. They have even deathmatch map. That has no sense.
My idea I will say many times. Remove Hotjoin it just give bad name to our PVP. Give us additional mode Unranked team vs team deathmatch where you can sign in 2 or 3 man teams only. Part team is critical no random solo que for that at all !!!
Solves every problem.
Why 5v5 failed reason is simple it is very hard to get 5 people in same time in this busy world. Same 5 people which you enjoy playing with. There is nothing more to it.
That was reason I did not play much or anybody 5v5 in wow.
2v2 has least balance but you need only one friend online and it is not chaotic same 3v3 which is perfect.
Bring this 2v2 3v3 team deathmatch it takes no effort almost to make it. Can be one one or few smaller maps which are already in place.
Thanks. I can understand players frustrations because solo Que is much much different then team vs team it is hard to get used to when you played team vs team before.
So to enjoy it you need to change your mindset a little bit and understand that your teammates not always know what you want to do and they have sometimes different ideas. It is important to not add to stress by stupid comments I always say if you type something meaningless and who is playing then? Fairy ?
Community in gw2 is probably best when it comes to mmo so do not ruin it but try to add to it
PS I think ping system could be little better and map too.
Meta or not meta what counts is what you enjoy problem is when you have to be viable to play this one build which you hate (even because you have to play it). I do not think it is that case expect for which is funny meta classes. Of course if you compare their build from outside meta they could be as strong as our main build.
Other thing is how much you can customize this so called meta build Example Ranger:
Our Power build : There is only one line rest is totally up to you. Probably most customized build. That was only meta build which was on list for some time.
I play version which is bit different then meta and I still think it is strong and does not limit me. You can check it by looking at my signature:
Build which I have been using recently it is variation on Condi Survival build but I use torch and some talents which I feel are critical for me so it also bit different and not meta so we have a choice. Below link if you want to check it out.
https://youtu.be/1w2kbCbpZIk?list=PLDSrFjXKFzmmxoJkoSZkc0ro3G8YkDOW-
Summary:
Ranger as class had semi build meta Power Ranger but still you could make it highly customized. We still have condi and spirit build which is also customized. So it is in good position as option to choose. What we lack is that we are bottom as class probably with Necro.
What about your classes ? I know that Engi, Thief and Ele are limited as far I know.
How do you see your class? Do you feel you have viable options except meta and /or can you customized it to point to being still about as strong as it is.
For me that is important because if meta limits you to one build where you can change skill or two.. then it sucks.
I wrote this before what would solve many problems is to make mode like team deathmach where you can sign only in teams in 2v2 3v3 Unranked for start.
Many builds which currently are not viable would be in this mode.
People also could work on your combo fields combos because you would be in one place and only 2 or 3 people. I think it would develop better understanding of class and how they interact with each other. Where on normal mode there is not that much time for it.
Main thing it would be only team vs team which I think is the way ranked should be played.
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I would say nerf Cele until it is not clearly best amu for few classes. Problem right now is that every class want to in some way to use his amu to get advantage because it is clearly the best one. It should not be the case it just limits option to choose from. Do not over nerf it thought make it on level of zerker or even bit better.
@Zenos Osgorma thanks for watching and for tips:) I am still getting used to this build only played few matches with it after getting back to gw2 after longggg break.
I am getting used to regen on my second pet because I was playing power build with wolf/dog combo of course.
I still feel that our pet controls are bit clunky sometimes I try to use fear and my pet decides to go banana but is much better then on release (back then played engineer mostly but now it is bit too op so I am bit torn:).
Ranger in most games was my main. In Gw2 Conditions are bit hard to get used to for coming / or new players it take them some time. I feel it is bit strange system all together when it comes to dots but oh well you can get used to it.
I love the build I feel it is much stronger then your usual power build (which I still enjoy) .
After this I want to try melee version and gs power version I love variety ranger brings it is not that strong as class but love it. Pets annoy me sometimes but need more time to get used to it:)
Ps. Combo entangle, fire field, bleed stone+ spreading from sb 2 is devastating even to few enemies.
Ps2 I know that our ranger class had uphill battle from the start but those taste best when they are won Ranger forever in heart haha
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So I have been testing my Condition Build which I call Condition Spiker. On one of the match I was teamed as Ranger with 2 Necromancers vs lets say meta classes.
You know that feeling when you are :P bit against the odds vs current meta.
Everyone was pretty silent except Necro complaining about having only one type of build ( they seriously need some love and ranger too )
Match started and…. this happened …
http://youtu.be/xmJ8fS5exE4?list=PLDSrFjXKFzmmxoJkoSZkc0ro3G8YkDOW-
I could not contain myself not laughing during match. We got lucky , got really nice guardian but results was haha not something you expect in this situation.
Please do not treat this match too serious it was not showcase of win or skills was just fooling around with new build (which Btw rocks ).
Here is build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAV8fjMqUzaLLOsQ1iABhaVA0sGSWWJg789H+6CW9A-TZRHwABuIAJLDI4IAA4BAEa/BA
If you have any questions or tips about build please leave comments. There are 2 more videos of me playing this build. if you are interested. I will keep adding more soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQGWkxd5Tiw-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w2kbCbpZIk
Thanks for watching and I hope you gonna enjoy.
Important:This is not about win or skills. It is about Never giving up even if odds are against your team. Do not loose match before it even start.
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I added point 7 plus I have made special series for this one called Never Give Up where I will put strange matches which went from bad to good:). Link to it below.
http://youtu.be/xmJ8fS5exE4?list=PLDSrFjXKFzmnxXxVluHi_y4kegBw7x04g
Give us 2v2 3v3 team deathmatch ( you can sign only with team) for unranked play so everyone can join and it counts to reward track. You can use deathmatch map and shrink it if you like . It would make happy many people and give some other builds to shine.
@MindWipe Shees do not give away secret about dodging rapid some people asking for nerf I suppose still did not figured that out + our power build is probably weakest from top 3 our builds.
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@Marcos I do not play wow anymore but I am sad to hear that still respect Wow for what it did.
@Cynz Ye that is true. I hope they decide what they want to do and maybe 2v2 3v3 team deathmatch for us:)
@Archaon Hm did not tried it yet but not sure if this spreading of points is best idea for condi ranger. You got link to build ? or is just regular condi with cele?
I feel that you play what you like but make it work Some builds are only good for fun sadly. But you do not have to run strict meta and lots of class has few options so ye meta is not needed good player is
@Trevor Boyer I love Power Ranger but I have to say that is not our strongest build. I am currently toying with Condi Ranger and feel it is stronger. So when it comes to Ranger we are not meta. Spirit ranger also brings more to your team I would say (other spec I have been playing).
Yesterday match on Solo Ranked Que 2x Necro Ranger team vs meta classes haha I could not believe my eyes Mood before a game .. result was stunning..
http://youtu.be/xmJ8fS5exE4?list=PLDSrFjXKFzmmxoJkoSZkc0ro3G8YkDOW-
@Gaaaroth I would say that is the way you start and good idea.
I am ex Wow player and I have played all mmo’s on market with PVP. I have to say that there is only 2 Gw2 and Wow which have any form of balance. Great that you enjoying and welcome.
I agree those classes are clearly worse then other they need buff.
Yesterday after writing this comment I have played few solo Ranked matches. One of them was in team 2 Necro + Ranger vs meta classes. There was necro complaining about his class only having one spec and you could almost feel mood of everyone… and the game started … and this happened.
http://youtu.be/xmJ8fS5exE4?list=PLDSrFjXKFzmmxoJkoSZkc0ro3G8YkDOW-
I was almost rolling laughing when I was playing. Nobody expected this kind of result I will just say game was pretty short. I really recommend watching I think you will have blast with music which suit this game really good:). Have fun and thanks for watching.
Ps. This was just match but just share coincidence was pretty amazing.
Of course I feel that those 3 classes and especially necro need some more love still was really funny.
I agree those classes are clearly worse then other they need buff.
I would not recommend Axe I was highly disappointed with it ( it was my first choice). I would take sword to get some needed defense ( longest evade from all weapons) + good mobility.
Off hand would be between torch and dagger. Torch I feel is underestimated by far especially after buffs. Burning hurts a lot !!
Try sword /torch if not sword /dagger is always good choice eventually horn.
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I do not see any reason to change it simple as that it would be big changes for LB Power rangers.
I would like to share with you my Noob Tales Series which I have started. All matches are from Ranked solo sPVP on some I am with friend (no Ts etc).
I run my version of Read the Wind Power build Long Bow/ Great Sword
I have almost 22k health, high up keep of fury, 2 stun breakers, condition cleans from talents and signet depending on setup, 6-12 sec immunity from dmg.
I have found this build to suit my style the best it is more tanky but still bring similar burst thanks to high upkeep of fury.
I will keep adding new videos and builds to series next one is Condition Shortbow / sword +torch then Spirit Ranger short bow / sword +torch ( in day or two).
You will find additional information in description of video and there no videos with stomping other team I felt that they do not show proper fight.
http://youtu.be/LLjrTshLxDY?list=PLDSrFjXKFzmkxIY-VsFFESqLFgrnBEFhg
I hope you gonna enjoy watching and leave comments tips here or on you tube.
Thanks for watching and have fun
+1 I do not think that is best idea to get as playing other classes. Maybe make rating based around char not account or group them in few classes so you can choose more then 1-2.
I think Mesmer is more complicated then Ranger when it comes to skills etc and because it has more unique playstyle.
But to be honest all classes are easy maybe engineer was bit annoying on start but now it is very strong so actually it evens out.
Play what you like and do not pay attention to what people say
What is the easiest class to play ? Answer is simple the strongest class
Question always should be which class is easiest to play and in the same time it brings best results. Mesmer and Ranger is not one of them haha for sure.
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Ele is strong as has been all this time some classes joined him
Thief has place but I think it could be be weaker then was in his best days.
You can sign in party from 1-5 for Ranked que is much faster and feels more balanced then was before.
@Ithilwen Press 2 only too see that your enemy do dodge roll and you just wasted all your dps (from what you saying) What next you gonna hide behind your team mates and try again when they are fight 4vs5 ?
There is difference between playing and doing ok even. There are builds which are far easier then LB in sPVP and you can actually do good with them much easier.
@Invoker I would say that key to enjoy soloQ sPVP is to understand that it is random.
SoloQ never should be treated as Ranked that is for team play then it has sense.
I have wrote a topic after my share of struggle in solo Q not only here but in Swtor which is far worse. Link below.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/How-to-enjoy-Solo-sPVP-advices-and-video/
I have to say that new system where you can sign with friend is best option from all worlds. If you do not have full team you sign with as many members as you can and you have this option. Just treating soloQ too serious is root of all problems.
Ihave videos from soloQ ( do not have time to get proper team now) and you can have very fun matches even being solo or with friend. Check my youtube channel in my signature if you like I will keep adding more.
Solo Q can be enjoyable you have to understand that its 5v5 and your team could be simply much weaker then opposing team and you cannot do much about it.
I think Anet did pretty good job as far as SoloQ it is simple not much that can be done about it… Ranked is meant to be played in team vs team maybe 3vs3 would solve it or 2v2 mode.
Haha enjoyed watching, this music, asura haha liked :P
I have to say that axe is probably our weakest weapon and in strange spot. I would go with sword /torch or sword /dagger if you need more defense. Torch has been buffed and burning hurts a lot… really a lot.
You can also try spirit build support which I have been running more offensive style with sword and torch ( tried axe was my first choice but it kinda sucks )
I would always keep shortbow.
It is hard to tell more often if you are not tank and do not have stability is better just to finish other guy to get rally. Depends class spec really hard to tell.
Most of time I will concentrate on finishing target( even thought it is hard you want to help your teamate) but it is better faster to do it this way as ranger. Tank Guardian is other story etc.
In sPVP range means much less then in Wvw because you are suppose to get points so you are stuck in place pretty much. Warrior I will not tell you which build to run because I hate playing vs warrior in certain build haha it starts with ham and rest is peace haha.
I would say you are right you paid for game you can play the way you want plain and simple nobody gives you anything so you do not own anybody anything.
I would go unranked thought skip hotjoin if you find some wanna be pro on unranked skip him or ignore him whatever you prefer. Just do not let you get under your skin.
This 5vs5 not 1vs5 people try to shine forgot that when they shine their team is loosing fight:( they are overly interested looking good not winning as a team.
@Jaxom ye make it like unranked mode just to get pvp rewards nothing serious. I would be stuck with friend or two there and new pvp stronghold mode. It would bring change of pace and bring lots of bored wow players into the game
I love idea I have actually made a topic few weeks ago about 2v2 3v3 teamdeath match mode. I was also die hard fun of wow arena for over 7+ years and after duel tournament 2v2 those memories just came back + I saw that it could be actually very fun and balanced.
If you like read and give your thoughts about it I wrote how system would work etc.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/New-mode-team-deathmatch-2vs2-3vs3/first#post4779103
Ehm our pets already are not best in world so I would not like that change at all
@Deadnoz Welcome back some has changed some not For build for every class check
http://metabattle.com/wiki/MetaBattle_Wiki
If you want eazy mode for now to get you in groove I would advise you Warrior HamBow which wrecks and easy to play semi ranged class.
From Ranged dps I would skip for now Engineer it is most complicated for start
Elementalist if you like playing piano it is strong very strong and probably will stay strong forever
Ranger Power build or Spirit Build lots of fun I love it nice burst but not that strong but fun as hell for me Here you can find full matches of my Ranger with nice build for solo Ranked sPVP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7hWjRetPDo&list=PLDSrFjXKFzmkxIY-VsFFESqLFgrnBEFhg
Necro complicated and not strong sorry necros haha we need some eazy mode for start.
Healer any kind of that would be something like Ele maybe but everyone has heal so
Advice do not pick something complicated if you had break start with some class which is simple to get you going.
I hate to say that balance is good not great but good (power Ranger bottom tier here).
Engineer for Power Ranger are not really that big problem do not let hem get to close to you if they do make them pay. Every class in game has counter class ( hambow I hope you too gezz ah ye you love engineer with protection on stuns haha.
So I hope they will tone down a little cele builds and get us some goodies but it is ok.
@Raptorcheese Haha that was bad mate but nice idea for team worst for me would be only 3 hambows and 2 turrets stuns for everyone.
@Chuck Zitto Sometimes you get in bad streak and that is all but I do find that there is lots of people running not exact meta builds. Engineer ye I hate good Ele more and HamBow but they are hard to come. Problem with Engineer that they sucked for long time so some people actually learned how to play this class haha.
I made topic about how to enjoy solo Spvp maybe will help you out I was struggling myself for sometime I always was playing rated on team vs team basics so ye it is bit harder to adjust but not impossible. Have fun or die trying I say
@Lsd I would be happy to watch your Ranger LB/Gs video and do not get discouraged
I have on my youtube channel videos of Ranger (Power build LB/Gs) full matches mostly on solo sPVP sometimes with friend so please free to check them and maybe you will like it. Play what you like always I say and enjoy I say:)
@Black Scoutsman You are right but I have to say that i find it silly of this discussion of skills of class vs class or spec vs spec. True Power ranger is easier to pick up then other ranger builds / classes builds on beginning but it there is difference between pick up the build and actually doing good with it. If I would have to mention class to be easiest to play and still do good would be Hambow Warrior and Guardian Medi GS even Ele is fairly easy compare what you bring to table.
Skills for me are skills needed to get your class and build to get to be fairly competitive where LB/Gs need much more skills then any Cele build I do agree that engineer which I have been playing on release (not much now) has the highest skill cap from them all but it is currently so strong that I decided to mention it.
I would say that trait that allows them to move should be implemented in game for everyone. This way it would add much variety to our spec. It is silly that you have to invest something for so basic thing. It also is crucial for their viability for leveling PVE builds.
I also find cast time annoying really but they are very interested and unique mechanic.
Overall our traits are probably worst from all classes in games when it comes to being uninteresting etc. Power ranger has highest customization from all spec which was in meta (currently is not). Only one line is mandatory to be honest rest is personal preference so that also says something. That is reason when I started Gw2 I have played Engineer because Ranger seemed to be dull in comparison to other chars. Even thought I always play ranger class in all mmo’s.
Currently love my Ranger because oh well I love the theme and style what I can do:)
SO yeah I am all for making our talents not necessary stronger but more interesting.
@Sorel You are spot on I also prefer good not meta class build who actually play good I am new in Guild Wars 2 ( I have played it on release but did not like state of it) so I had a break.
I was addicted to Wow Arena for 7+ years with good results but always played class and spec which I liked not necessary top tier or second tier comps. Still getting rating which satisfied me so it is not like you have choose your class around meta what it counts is simple results haha.
Thanks for reading.
@Kees Flodder Ranked SoloQ is worst idea which came to PVP ever. Plain and simple.
Ranked is meant to be played in team because only then it shows actual skills of your team ( not only you because your team won not you alone). You rarely goes solo vs team on current ranked it was proven many times in posts.
Current system encourage people to group so I can sign with friend and have fun.
It also makes que short which is amazing. This option is great for people like me who do not have that much time to wait for other 5 but want to play with friend or two. So I actually have good experience.
If you want proper Ranked experience get team and play with them.
I think on unranked you meet more often teams vs solo.
You need to understand that frustration comes because people always try to blame something for loosing either matchmaking, class imbalance etc. Sometimes they are right but most of time there are not.
Any system where you can sign with not full team will be flawed.
But current system is best implemented for solo, semi group Ranked system I have seen when it comes to matchmaking is also best because arena net actually cares ( not like Swtor Ranked which is joke).
Summary: System is not perfect but for solo is best I have seen and encourage people to group with friends and team the way ranked is meant to played. This is also test season so for me good enough.
Point system is not best but is not worse I think it is experiment and they want to do something which makes people not sit on rating like in Wow. They still test and they should.
I have been reading forum lately a lot and there is few post which flame spvp ranked arena in current state ( I do not agree with that ) and want to bring solo only ranked ( totally against it). So I want to share with you this nice match and nice comeback win.
I had my share of frustration about Solo Arena both in Gw2 and Swtor especially after playing Wow arena for over 7+ years where you can only do it in team which far less stressful. I feel that current system encourage people to group together which is good thing and step to form a team (that is how ranked should be played anyway).
Here are few advices which helped me to enjoy Ranked sPVP much more:
1) Sign with class , spec which you enjoy playing most and you are good with it: people make mistake signing with spec which do not enjoy and cannot play because it is meta (leave meta classes for high elo and tournaments). Especially in Solo sPVP more important that class, spec is how good you play it because you cannot control your team composition at all. Even if you loose there is high chance you will enjoy it because you like to play this class.
2) Sign with friend or two: That really helps even if you are not ts just to have someone who you like to play or you know plays good help a lot
3) Do not flame your team: it never helps and discourage people to give their best. Remember they do not know what you want to do so let them know if you are experience take control, write objectives , ping on map and be a leader if you are good:)
4) Do not worry too much about loosing too much but take pride in playing good : remember this is not 1vs1 or 1vs5 even if you play perfect there is not 100% that you win and other way around.
5)Be a team player and communicated with team: stop looking for how many points and kills you got start looking how many points your team. Communicate with your team.
6) Just try to have fun. It is just a game and there are people who also want to have fun try to add to it and not ruin it
7) Never give up: I was part of really improbable comback wins so do your best even if you are loosing concentrate on getting your skills better and as long you do your best there is not much else you can do. It is still team vs team
8) Community in gw2 is probably best when it comes to mmo so do not ruin it but try to add to it
If that does not help get a team and then only person you can blame is you
Hopefully this advices will help someone to enjoy sPVP more happy people more enjoyable sPVP for everyone.
Give your opinion and own advices on subject and have fun.
Rariz
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I have to say that most of our weapons have some uses maybe they still lack but axe is just in awkward spot and we need him to dual wield only offensive weapon
Haha good spoted nice anyway I always believe that you play what you enjoy playing the most ( unless it is utter crap haha.
Rangers got bad rep but they are not that weak as people want them to make they are just harder to get similar results. No big deal
But Reallllly happy to see that!!! Gz to Eurantien and great team that let him to run something which is not viewed as current meta.
Interesting idea. I would add that our weapons are lacking in utility.
Take example Power Build you have Greatsword which is great for this build what other options : sword/dagger or warhorn for defense etc.
We have good options in Off hand : warhorn/torch/ dagger but we lack in main hand only sword seems to be decent but its more defense weapon.
I would say that axe in mh need to be revised decide to give it more utility, be power or condition weapon whatever now it sucks, which limits your options by far.
@Chuck Zitto Rangers tend to be very easy to level because pets takes all agro from mobs so it does not teach even on simple level how to play class where other classes has to be more on their toes. It is also very popular class I suppose plus it is not the strongest for sure. All this adds to that. So ye I do agree but some classes makes you good even when you are not so good
Most people complain on Power Ranger which is easy to pick up at first but actually much harder to do good with it which is whole point . If you want easy class to pick up and actually do good Warrior is your friend.
If you are have serious problems with ranger ( ok if you are necro maybe) then either there is something wrong with your build or sorry your skills. What you will do when you will meet half decent Ele, Engineer, Warrior, Guardian etc. It is much easier to get better results with those classes because they have simply stronger builds.
Whole skill argument is only valid maybe versus Engineer which is not that easy to pickup bute Ele, Warrior, Guardian etc pleasseee do not builds myths
Spirit Ranger which is good support but seriously much easier to do similar things with ele and engineer in current meta. I love my ranger but I am not blind about it.
I totally agree with trap changes they are way too uninteresting like most of our talents where changes I would welcome to give us much more diversity.
I would concentrate on changing our talents to be more interesting and buffing skills like off hand axe or other which are not used so often.
Most people do not know that but our Power build is most customized from meta builds only one line is mandatory other are really depending on your play style just when people see longbow think that this is all the same.
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There is not much reason to do any nerfs range or any on Ranger we are close to bottom.
So nope has no sense especially ranger nerf.
@Stand The Wall Yes our burst from rapid fire is easiest to counter in game that is why ideally you do not want to use it unless you have your target CC or at least he used dodge once or twice. For this point blank, fear root from pets, charge x2 from pets really helps. For sneaking stealth and then rapid fire.
I am not really a fun of auto attacks and we have nice damage from maul so I would prefer to use that. You are dps if you do not burn your target then whole point of being bursty falls off. That is my take.
@Zenith Yes power ranger do not bring much utility to team but is not that far from other dps class. Barrage you do not use mostly for damage (which is ok) but for aoe cripple.
Most of problems you mention is when you sign as team where you meet teams on ts which coordinated very good then you can get trained. In Solo que I do not feel that way.
Would I bring my Power Ranger to team depends on composition but I do feel that in this case Spirit Ranger brings more to team still prefer to play power ranger.
In the end you need to remember that Ranger as class is closer to bottom then top :
Top tier: Ele,Eng,Warrior, Guardian
Lower Tier: Mesmer, Thief, Ranger, Necro
Differences are not that big and not all of us run meta builds so have fun with what you like and when you play team not solo you need proper team composition anyway so pick what best support your team.
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