Yeah mace works nicely in WvW for a build with some healing power, with a shield. Use it to apply healing and the shield works together with it. Works in large zergs as well as for smaller teams.
I sometimes used it with 2 pieces of healing armor.
Soldier gear works for WvW, but only for that. In time you can swap it out for pieces that give you what you desire, like more dmg or whatever you want. Stay away of knights since it makes you loose too much power.
For pve you can always go marauder or pure zerk. Marauder give a bit more health to play with, a bit more forgiving for a beginner.
Now Im not including condi builds at all, since its not my style of play. I leave that for someone else.
Greatsword and sword/focus is a nice basic setup for pve. For WvW either Greatsword or hammer, and staff as second (sword/shield works too).
This is just basic pve and WvW, solo and group play. For specialized raid builds, Im sure someone else can provide some more info about that. And when it comes to WvW, if you are inexperienced, you can go for a full soldier build and then tweak it a bit when you get a hang of your style of play.
Vabbi had a good link and cuz of that got a lot of refugees. When that changed, it might drop. Simple as that. It’s was an artificially created T1 server. And we have all seen it over and over.
A lower tier server get a good link, a bunch of players transfer to it, and it goes up in tier. Gets unlinked, players move and it drops like a stone. Its just how it works atm.
And the one thing the just had to nerf was guardian staff. Talk about twisted
Commanders sometimes tag down to get rid of ppl not on TS, since they tend to stand at the wrong spots and only end up feeding the other team.
Used it for healing builds in WvW only. Never for spvp or pve.
It’s hard to understand how people can not understand this.
Its meant as a rare and pretty hard to obtain item for very frequent players.
It’s not meant to be the same as the legendary weapons, which every narb in the game have at least 3 of.
If anything, we need more of these type of items. Even in pve.
What you can do, is to do the opposite of following a large group with a random tag.
Tag up red or something like that(not blue or yellow), state your purpose in chat. Like “Im going to try a few camps and towers, feel free to join up”. And respect if someone more experienced tags up blue.
There is meta, and then there is what works for you. And often if you combine these 2 you get something that works really well. Start with the meta build and tweak it a bit.
Some guards have one or two pieces of armor with heal stats. Some vanilla warriors can survive in a zerg with marauder armor, some require soldier armor. It’s not that one is better than the other, it’s all about your playstyle, how you move and how you use your skills. But what you want is something that the group benefits from. You wont be much help if you die at first push, or if you stand back pew-pew:ing doing no damage at all.
I havent tried it enough to get a feel for it really and don’t have time to do so. But I wonder…
Is it viable for more than 10 seconds as a frontline using a power build? If you compare it with a guard, a staff rev or a vanilla warrior, in a zerg.
Or is it a small to mid scaled fights only?
If only there was a specifik map for people with little experience, or those who want to test demo characters and for people stuck in big ques.
Oh wait….EOTM.
If more people that belong there would go to EOTM we wouldnt have these ques.
Some actual new armor sets for a change, instead of all these outfits.
An economical decision. If think about the time it takes making a real armor set versus designing an outfit, outfit wins. And on top of that, if that armor set can be obtained in game, those work hours are concidered lost if you compare it to selling in for gems.
Historically Anet never liked to redo old things. Even if it was success. They avoid it as long as they can and try to come up with other things instead.
We had a few fun as hell events in old Guild Wars that we will never see again. And it was not as obvious as some ppl think that the SAB came back again.
Would love to see templates though. Maybe along with a clothing rack so you can just switch build and armor/trinkets at the same time.
Yes it’s a very stupid system.
They link servers together and often those servers go up in tier. And when the server is high enough in rank it gets unlinked and drop like a stone.
It’s a lazy lack of imagination solution.
With the upcoming expantion it’s going to be even more condi.
What we have is a few devs that brainstorms what they think is fun and unexpected skills for new classes. And armor sets to go with it. And the only thing they can come up with is to combine condi skills. So expect everyone to run condi builds in the future.
It’s sad though, we had so much fun before this condi meta crap.
Might be wrong but felt like yet another condi spec to me. So boring.
I use a basic setup and nothing ever downed me on those maps.
Marauder armor, zerk trinkets. GS + axe/torch (or shield).
Tried condi, and I dont like it at all. It’s too passive for me. But a lot of people run condi and do it well.
I had very little problem playing as ele in Maguuma. I use marauder armor instead of zerk, just for that little extra bit of health, and it’s enough. If you dont do raids or dungeons with pugs you don’t have to min-max everything. Just go for what works for you.
But stay away from stats like knights if you are power built. It might seem like a good idea at first but sacrifices way too much power.
What Shiri said there about buffs explains it.
Warriors suffer from the same problems sometimes in WvW. They dont give any buffs or heals to speak of, so they are often grouped together in the same subgroup. But is a class that would really benefit from stability and boons when going frontline.
But it is what it is. Ofc ppl rather have guards and revs instead of warriors. It’s understandable.
Sometimes when I dont know what to do I go on my semi-retired zerk ranger and pew-pew only necros. Always fun to see them melt like butter while trying to limp away.
Several good points above.
If you want to run with the big group, don’t hesitate to run with them as a druid or thief, just find your role. If there is no place in the squad for you, make your own party and hit the other server’s backline. Pick them off one by one. Thieves have been doing this since launch.
I often play thief in WvW, and when the squad is starting to get 40+, I leave by myself and continue doing my thing supporting them, and having fun doing so. If you want to go druid heal build, do so. Druids and thieves never get in sub squads that get good boons or stability anyway so in a way it kind of doesnt matter.
Never underestimate small parties that hit from behind or from an unexpected side.
Would be nice to get a real in deapth explanation about this from Anet. And in it, how their thought is when it comes to AH guards in WvW. Because now, staff is kind of semi-useless for anything.
My bet is that it is yet another pve farming nerf, withouth thinking of the consequenses for other game modes that rely on the staff.
Nice to be in a fight, and maybe the other set on cooldown, while running around hitting air with a useless stick.
Communication pls.
I dont find this even remotely amusing. Just a boring job to get through these puzzles because I dont like unfinished things.
“The puzzle’s pattern is the same as the Exemplar’s but upside down as viewed from the door to her chamber, with the player facing North.”
kitten I just want to kil things.
Endless conversations that cannot be ended, followed by missions like "get 3 infractions and subtract them to the deletions by killing 4 distractions.
Woooot?
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Yeah for pve group play it’s propbably druid.
For gamemodes like WvW I would say guard and rev to spam resistance and stability.
Why are names unique anyway? Why not let people name themselves whatever they want even if someone else already took it?
Wonder how the name policy would work in real life.
“Sorry, you can’t name your child Jesus, it’s already taken. How about Jesus2568?”
Celestial isnt terrible, but it was great. I miss when cele eles were op. Was so fun to play then. I play my ele in WvW with marauder armor and pvt trinkets, but Im no roamer. Its for my semi support dmg build in large groups.
I still think GW2 have the best RvR. Had some fun big fights in Aion though back in the day, before they ruined it.
But talking about GW2 WvW: It’s always a problem when you implement big changes to a gamemode. Like the switch to condi meta. Once you have done it there is not turning back, even if there is a little voice in your game developers mind that says “kitten , this isnt turning out the way we intended”. So you try to patch things up by doing other changes, that turns out to have other unforseen consequenses.
Babysteps, always small but frequent babysteps instead of rare big strides.
And can we please think of the children.
ROFLMAO Guard is dead? Please tell me your joking? I will own you with my base guard! You just mad cause your loot stick is gone lol. Try it again without your loot stick lol
I dont think they mean that the guard class is a dead class in that way. I think they mean that there are so many other issues that could be addressed that this is an almost unbelievable thing to change.
And that Anet even considered staff nr 1 to be the issue to be fixed over many other balance issues proves quite a few things.
Warrior is still a very viable class. In all pve game modes its a fun and engaging class. If you like it you dont have to look further, play it and have fun.
Chef can be really useable. And is the cheapest to level up.
However I find it that in the long run, I get the most out of having the ability to craft armor and weapons of my own class. No matter if its a bit expensive.
If you play thief now, are you planning to play another class? Another medium armor class? Then go leatherworker. And maybe huntsman.
Want to play a warrior too? Might want to consider weaponsmith.
You might want to make an ascended piece and then a useable craft rather than a cheap one might be the smartest.
We need the Batman
They wont get many bags in comparison to the frontline crowd believe me. You can double the bags or more. And they often waste the gold they get from it on siege and food. Most of the best commanders are always really broke even though they might get a full stack of bags from an evening alone.
So again we get most lazy most borring spec in next expansion.
Tomes? Support? Why support cause we have already very good support????
Just look at those amazing other elite specs bringing somethin NEW to their specs….
Again lazyness at its best.
Pretty sure Firebrand will be worst in raids(and unwelcomed), wvw roaming if we dont get excellent tome surviving skills …. (remember DH pre hot when it was crap??)
I am not hyped. at all…
People who tested a while ago (don’t know if it’s true) said it could provide decent condi DPS and perma quickness at the same time.
More condition damage. Thats what we need. vomits
Ye its so sad
When in pve, I think and always thought warrior and the elite berzerker is a fun class to play . I like the fast movement and dynamics of it.
I find it way more fun to play than the other heavy armor classes.
To be honest now, and it applies to many other things. Not saying Im against this or anything but…
If it gets highly requested they will look into it, forgetting that the lifeblood of WvW isnt the casual player that want a mount, or the one that welcome gliding, but those that rather wants skill balance and fun and engaging fights.
So they implement these flashy new things into WvW, without even try to please the hardcore crowd (which Im not even near to belong to).
And without a locomotive there is nothing to pull the train.
I also heard that the sky is falling…
Many many Guardians would use a staff just to AA spam in WvW to get as many bags as possible. They would build super tanky, so they can stand in the front line and spam their staff’s AA. ANet seen this and cut the range down. It’s no ones fault except for those who abused this for profit.
Lol this is not why staff is used by frontline guards in wvw.
Bags are a nice reward but not why you use it. A frontline guard jumps in with the commander, uses his GS or hammer with some additional skills to ensure that he survive the worst damage. Then switches to staff to put preassure on the enemy frontline while the backline is doing their job from the sides. Staff 1 Is a great semi-aoe skill that when enough are using it, put quite the preassure on the other frontline.
Gliding in WvW. Well, it’s kind of meh imo. It doesnt add anything to the type of play at all. Maybe makes it easier for tower defending servers to sit on their siege in impossible places, I dunno
Not making it easy for your customers that enjoy WvW and want to play a heavy armor melee, do you Anet?
Warrior is not very effective anymore in frontline zergs. Small groups and solo, sure, but frontline they just get eaten up by condis.
And now this against guards. Nice one, lol.
We obviously got a few brainstormers that come up with a brilliant ideas that dont really work out. There are numbers and statistics, and then there is what really works out in practice. Big difference. Some big mistakes being done here.
No dynamics, no fun head to head battles anymore where the group with the best tactics win.
This so is something that was not remotely needed.
Would really like a better official response to why this was done in the first place. And what purpose it has.
The only problem at the moment is maybe lack of stability in zergs, since we are often grouped together in the same subsquads. So when it comes to large zerg battles, we work well in dynamic fast paced fights, but drop significally in efficiency if the fight is prolonged. That is our weakness.
And with subsquads that give us no stab or boons, when the skills are on cooldown we start to drop.
We can often peak higher in efficiency than guards, but in a limited time. We dont last as long thanks to the current condi meta.
If you want to solo or small group roam yea.
for larger groups, or zergs, you can always go power midline. Also that one a setup that allow you to use the same armor in both pve and WvW. In that case, the midline reaper build is one that is very much needed in WvW since its quite an abundance of condi reapers there already.
Druids are quite annoying to meet. They hit quite hard and can stay the distance and heal well. Or if you want “something more up close and personal” (shameless gamequote).
I always liked to be more in my opponents face when in WvW/Pvp. But its all a personal preference, thank God, wouldnt want everyone to play the same way.
I wish I could play engie, they are so much fun and effective in 1v1. But I couldnt kill a blind ant as one.
The only time I got lag nowadays is in a really big 3-way. Then it starts, ofc, but rarely otherwise.
I’d like to see something that really uses the power stat well, instead of relying on condi play. Years of this condi meta has made me shelf my beloved reaper quite a while ago, even though he is very effective. So many people preferr facerolling a condi build with rediculous stats that its just not fun anymore. But thats me, I know a lot of ppl like that.
I always liked direct dmg. Condis is way to passive for my style of play. Feels a bit cowardly.
You can always finish up on your Grand Artisan title.
Anytning condi with high toughness and health works if you want to play it a bit safe. Like condi neco. Just like a guardian with a bit of extra toughness and health, sacrificing power, would work.
Lag is cool and you all know it
They try to but it’s not so easy to implement I guess.
As and example Barauch Bay (SP) back in the day when they were no1 used to have a bunch of south american players causing havoc at night. They took everything. German servers also used to have entire zone blobs at night taking really everything. But all that seems to have stabilized a bit now.
There are also small differences that can have some effect. International EU servers tend to have their prime time at arond 8 pm, while some localized servers have it later. So they end up with their zergs when many ppl that have jobs or school to go to are logging off. This was also a problem earlier, not so much now imo.
Some servers also have dedicated players that wake up really early in the morning, ppt:ing for 2 hours before they go to school or work. Also hard to defend against.
I think a lot of the changes to WvW that adressed this problem have worked as much as possible.