they are all sorts of off.
I looked at a wep wielded first.
then look at it stowed and cry.
Its like HALF as big. =( How long has this been broken?
can we all agree that would be either achievement points, or “fashion”?
Since there is no other measureable increase in a player’s character’s strength gained by spending money on anything.
Spending Money REAL LIFE MONEY mind you, does not give you a higher chance of completing X content than any joe shmoe who hope in and doesn’t spend a dime on gems or what have you.
because the above is true, the measurement of success in game would be the amount of incredibly difficult items to obtain.
I meet a guy in game with legendaries. His sword, his off hand, and his back piece. all shiny and nice. He (she dunno which) switches weapon sets. Another Legendary.
I think kitten this guy has done some work in this game!
He then swaps out his current set for Astralaria.
At this point i’m thinking kitten ! wtf!? hes nuts! he bots! he farms 24/7 he tosses items in the mystic toilet and gets incredibly lucky!
oh sure you cant “buy Astralaria” but you sure as kitten kitten kitten!!! KITTEN! need 2400 gold for just ONE phase of the kitten thing!!
“nice you have the new axe too!?”
To this he says:
“not just 1, i made 2.”
i just cant anymore. i leave the fractal. that was like 40 minutes ago, im still standing here in LA trying to decide if I should just spam chat with my user name and pw and answer all the authentication emails.
I spent the better part of 2 years making just 1 legendary.
I’ve NEVER thought for a second that GW2 was “pay to win”
However when the ONLY Measurement of Success in game is the acquisition of rare and costly items, and you can BUY those items with REAL LIFE MONEY
Its pay to win. Its fashion wars. not stat wars. Everyone has the same stats. Not everyone can get the same items.
Thing is my ranger was my first pick right at game launch. I wanted the pet class, or with a little less ‘pet’ and more ‘archer’ the class with devastating long range attacks. I never imagined that my warrior with bow, would out damage my ranger with bow.
To me a warrior with a bow is a ‘after thought’ not a ‘specialization’
No warrior picks up a bow and says “thats for me!”
and no ranger tosses his/her bow down, picks up a staff and says “hell yah!”
We had 1 group heal. Elementalist had several. One would think that an F2 running Elementalist would be filling the roll that rangers are forced into.
anyway i’ve got more time and gold on my ranger, but shes sitting on the shelf, not because I want her the, but because i can’t play the way I’d like. Through kitten poor planning anet wont let me.
thats how I feel anyway.
I hate healing.
I hate joining a group or raid and getting told to respec or gtfo.
I really hate getting asked “yur heals rite?”
can I just be a ranger again and not a flipping healer?
“swing my shiny new bolt”
No one gives a kitten in raids, or otherwise about overglorified pixel items that literally don’t mean jack kitten. (Mostly folks with legendaries are horrible players, be it communication vise, or overall gameplay, at least from my experience)
This is nothing personal, but I have to say this kittenes me right off. I spent 2 years working toward this thing and finally get it.
Again nothing personal, speaks volumes about how badly Anet treats legendaries, they should either put some REAL tangible, measurable advantage into having them, or STOP kittenG CALLINGL THEM LEGENDARY! they at the moment are exactly what you said, lack luster, over pixilated, unjustifiably difficult to obtain EXOTICS!
If I were in charge i’d throw some stat increases at them, or down grade them to what they ACTUALLY are.
the reason I finished mine is a) got hella lucky and got zap out of the mystic toilet, and b) i wanted to finish what I started.
rant over. Back to your regularly scheduled program.
I’m currently playing a condi/crit warrior. Which I’m sure ya’ll are bout to dump on me for playing. (Considering how questions go in /m in LA.)
My main question is, i’ve been running fractals like there is no tomorrow. They dont seem challenging enough for my tastes. Still find them fun though.
I’m not looking for a “challenge” where you just throw your body at a mob till it dies, nor overly mechanical challenges, where im left constantly dodging kitten and never able to swing my shiny new bolt at the boss. But rather longer fights, with higher rewards.
However what I’m not looking forward to is “world of warcraft” stat/gear/build checks where if I’m not the “raid cookie cutter build” im a pleb unworthy of participating. I loath this kind of crap. That said though I think people need to be serious about their builds and make them work as best they can.
Yes im picky.
What suggestions do you have?
I’m currently in a “Friendly” guild what does little to no…ok they really dont do any grouping content whatsoever aside from guild challenges on the weekends.
grats on bolt! what, in your best estimate, was your gold spent to get it done?
I’ve been running sword/x since back when guild wars 2 was just a baby. My first class, and my favorite build as well.
With the stack changes to bleed it only got better, however I would say with the changes to Rangers and SB, get a good 2nd wep and be prepared to swap to it if there are a couple other condi builds in the raid.
question, do you run full zerker gear?
along with 99% of the game?
I have 1 toon that does, and 1 that doesn’t both finished the main story in HoT
Only difference is my guardian took 3 times as long to do kitten as my Ranger in full zerkers.
Zerkers is used because there is no other viable build for PvE. Especially group content.
its only a chore if you make it one
its a chore.
I agree., sadly many round here don’t so nothing’s likely to change.
thats what we call the vocal minority.
HoT spat in the face of all that Anet said they stood for.
This game is becoming nothing but a grind fest with no character progression after level 80.
you guys really think they will fix this?
How long has dry top been out and there is still no reward for completing the zone?
yeah Dont hold your breath….
last week or so, did Dry Top, SW, VB, and AB. (80ish % of tangled, and dragons stand)
Those first 4 zones rewarded NOTHING for 100% complete.
I do have 100% old world completion. /m chat said this was supposed to have been fixed, though I find nothing in the patch notes.
Ideas?
I have an idea….fix it. I speak as a developer myself (pacs/ris software for hospitals) IT IS NOT HARD! 1 dude could finish all the work for all the zones missing rewards in a single afternoon.
shoot less time than that. Find the code for the Old world level 80 zones and tweak it a bit. Perhaps add a guaranteed exotic new armor wep modification to it.
Just Git’er dun!
Constant patches fixing ‘hidden’ behind the sense things do nothing but irritate people. Add 1 single visible fix to each patch would go a long way to improve/increase player satisfaction.
Just wondering why this hasn’t been implemented.
a simple drop down of the skills the pet uses, and select which you want on F2.
the changes to the smokescale brought this up. I dont like it auto-striking since it now pulls adds whenever it feels like it.
lame and lame.
Now my pet gets to choose at some random interval when he wants to aggro additional mobs. thanks for wrecking this pet. The kitten can’t we CHOOSE which ability we want on f2??
So what happens when you are in a party, get disconnected and return just after the event is completed?
first of all you get a new zone where the event has failed,
and if you dont you end up getting something from anet.
I’ll give you a hint, it starts with F, and ends with ucked.
hmmm….I examined this post with a team of cheerleaders who promised not to tell nobody if I let them go, but we all agree that anet must have some pretty special people coming up with these ideas.
I’d mock them, but i feel it to be overly unkind to mock special people. I’m….uh….sure they are trying….
you have to honestly think like this, most of these guys are sitting at desks, staring at computer stuff with an IM open to their ‘office friend’ kittening about how much they hate their job, and how stupid management is, and just want to get home to play league of legends, or go outside and find out what the sun looks like again.
its statistically impossible for them ALL to LOVE their jobs and want the best for the player.
HERE I COME TO SAVE THE DAY!!!11….wait whats that? someone already did? drat!! ok boys back it up, nothing for us to do here. Someone already got this one.
agreed!
/lameposttooshortmessageislame
I must add i really dont care much about spoilers to begin with. I see it as using google maps to get somewhere. Knowing how to get there, and what i’m going to be doing on the way, (to me at least) doesn’t change how much fun I have, or my opinion of the journey…..mmm and everyone knows journey is a great band! (caffeine and add dont mix well)
Seriously getting sick of seeing all the people crying about spoilers!
the main reason people come to forums is to ask for help, and get information.
If youre afraid of seeing/reading spoilers, go away!
or just control yourself and dont click on and read obvious spoilers!
not only that, but “fight bugged” is NOT spoiling jack crap! now if the title said “Snape kills dumbledore” Then sure whine about spoilers.
I have not completed the personal story for HOT – i haven’t grinded the masteries yet. -
I’ve been reading this forum all morning and have not seen a single spoiler.
thats all =) have a nice day.
Casual – you have all weekend to play, and maybe get 2 hours in because of other things needing done around the house.
THAT is a casual player.
If you spent 10 hours or so this weekend playing…you aren’t casual. You devoted quite a lot of hours to it if so.Casual is a term for those that only play occasionally, if you are playing every day…or playing for long stretches at a time…you aren’t casual.
well said.
cracks me up how many people say they are “casual”
Got a guildy who was hot mastery level 10 by Sunday afternoon, that is NOT casual!
question: why can’t we decide which skill is on F2?
This thread has turned into the OP arguing with any rational response.
You have yet to offer any rational response.
Can you collect the required trophies even though you didn’t unlock the collection?
no, the collection doesn’t exist until you get the ‘collection volume book thing’
Some of the NPCS that have the items will only sell them to you once you have the collection. In fact some of them do not sell anything, until you have the collection.
some of the NPCS you need to talk to, wont even talk to you about anything until you unlock the collection.
Yes, the main point of gated content is to slow people down.
But it allows character progression in the fact that you feel accomplished when you do the work, get rewarded and step into new content.
Stop being dramatic. lol
its called a “false sense of accomplishment” and means nothing.
you grinded out 50 levels, at 12 hours a day for 5 months killing nothing but large rats to get a rusty dagger? grats youre a moron.
Doesn’t make that rusty dagger anything other than a rusty dagger, and certainly does not increase its value.
Effort to acquire, and rarity does NOT increase an items/achievements worth.
The reward’s value is not increased by rarity, or difficulty. In fact often times it is cheapened by it.
“I put all that effort into this crap?!?”
Same feeling if you were to work for several days and be rewarded with a french fry.
or working hard all year around and get for a Christmas bonus a pumpkin pie.
Same emotions, and principals apply in gaming. Something a lot of designers (including Anet) do NOT understand.
Sure they have a full time economist, big wup when they can’t figure out the simplest concepts of “Risk vrs Reward.”
It is intrinsic to, and an unavoidable part of human nature to question the value of a reward, when faced with an obstacle to over come.
The best way I can sum up the expansion is this: Having been invited to a feast, arriving and seeing a spread of the most delicious looking food only to be told you can eat portions of it depending on how many push ups you can do without stopping.
50 earns you a bite of turkey,
100 earns you some drink to wash it down.
200 earns you desert.
etc.
at some point you decide that the reward is not worth the effort, and move on to other things.
Same holds true with Guild Wars. Eventually these forced slows, and walled progression will turn people away.
we already know that the reward is going to be a box tied to an RNG with no increase in character strength, but only a sense of accomplishment that is easily disregarded by the effort its going to take to get there.
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So you are telling me that I should actually buy all the legendary weapon vol 1 recipes? Cause I don’t plan to pursue any of those so soon, but I do plan to play the game normally, do other stuff and if I accidentally do something that a collection needs the better.
you can’t buy the collections until you have the mastery for that collection.
but that wans’t your question, if you wnat to collect the items required for that legendary then yes, if not then no.
Should I buy all of the Legendary Vol 1 collections just to unlock them so that if I randomly stumble upon something needed for them to add it to the collection?
For example Bolt Vol 1 has a part that says "Looted from the chest after defeating the Legendary Archdiviner in the Cliffside Fractal. "
Can I loot that even if I don’t have the collection unlocked?
nope, as far as I know you dont even have access to the collection items until you complete the prerequisite grind.
and even once you do some of the event driven merchants are bugged and wont sell after completing the event so your screwed there too =(
About the gating, I am pretty surprised that people feel that being able to trade with Itzel is limiting their experience. I mean, what is really important : 1st tier in every mastery, save for gliding where you need two.
With this you can do the all story and go almost everywhere (not hidden places). It is like 5 hours of gameplay to get those requirements. The rest is almost convenient options which improve QOL when you unlock it.
Did people feel like leveling to 80 was gated content? Because it was in a way : you couldn’t go to the last maps in the game and do the events by being level 2. More than that, by not having a full set of traits and tri stats gear you actually had a harder time doing Story mission than doing them at level 80.
If people didn’t grind to level 80 I don’t see why they are unable to level their mastery. Why being in such a hurry? I you don’t have time to play, then don’t play. Would you start a Monopoly game knowing you can only play for 10 minutes before leaving? Even here the comparison doesn’t hold ’cause if you play GW2 10 minutes and log out, the next time you log in you will find your character at the exact same position.
1. Youre missing the whole point. Nobody expected to log in and have everythign.
2. Youre missing the point by a long shot! you didn’t read what I posted.
3. 5 hours? no, its more like 15-20. DOING THE SAME kitten OVER AND OVER AGAIN!
4. Leveling gave you access to dozens of zones, quests, Pois, vista’s etc. with each level giving you MORE places to go. Besides that at level 1 you had INSTANT access to the entire game. There was NO WHERE you couldn’t go, although you might die every 10 feet of exploring, you could still get there!
5. An equal comparison would be to log into the game for the first time, and THE FIRST QUEST YOU CAN DO requires you to master crafting, and reach level 25 killing boars. AND if you want to leave the newby area you are insta-killed by poison that requires MORE grinding to avoid/survive, and 50% of all vistas, POIs, skill shrines, etc are well out of reach regardless of your skill, level, gear, until you aquire a full set of legendary/asc items
Yes, the main point of gated content is to slow people down.
But it allows character progression in the fact that you feel accomplished when you do the work, get rewarded and step into new content.
Stop being dramatic. lol
No, I feel crippled because the game constantly tells me what I CANNOT do, instead of what I CAN do.
^ This. Very much this!
/topictoshorttosavemessageisstupid
I would like to know this as well. It does say you gain access to special merchants. So far I have not found any, though I’m not actively out hunting.
Gated content allows character progression which is a staple to any MMO and expansion.
What? I must have missed that chapter in the homework.
Gated content is a cheap way to force players to slow down, giving a false sense of longevity to an expansion, and the game designers time to set up for the next dose of the game.
as for the last part of your statement, only staple when you are catering to the “gimmy now!” 12 year old spoiled gamer mentality, with 18 hours a day to play a game.
Guild Wars 2 is not about that kind of game play, or gamer.
if this has changed, then we have the biggest case of “bait and switch” in the history of gaming! Its is (was) a well established fact that Anet and guild wars 2 was created withOUT the “grinding” eternal progression via bigger better gear, mentality that plagues MMOs.
The 1 single thing I would have changed, and I think its too late for them to do anything about.
And I’m really trying hard to word this accurately, but it feels like progression is walled….
its like walking into this beautiful new area, so much to do and explore! so much awesome places to go…then a brick wall slams down in front of you, and have to work hard to break through it, soon as you do, another brick wall slams down in front of you.
I can’t really describe how disappointed I was when I started the new story, and got smacked in the face with a brick wall.
“ok guys we are in grave danger! if we dont get that dragon and save the pact we are all goners! Lets get too it!!…..soon as our commander learns how to glide, updraft, lean, eat shrooms, and not die from poison. …dont worry commander….we’ll wait…sarcasm”
Me: “OHKAY GUIZ! I”R BE BAK IN 259 HOURS! gunna farm me some events for a couple weaks! Soz I no hao to eat shroomz! lolz!!!1"
The only ray of sunshine in all this, is i only have to do it once. Soon as this grind is over I can play the game =D
Seriously though! Great job on the expansion, no serious person here expected it to be perfect, but just can’t shake the feeling of intentional cheaply done forced slowed progression, and a side of money grabbing.
/wave see you in game.
Stop trying to rush them.
that would be all well and good, but YOU CANT PLAY THE GAME WITHOUT THEM!!11
I heal, my Guardian shoots with Bow. We beat the best team in the game.
http://i.imgur.com/p3Lc8d5.jpg
#RangerRanging
Ranger heals
Pally uses bow….
the kitten is wrong with this game???
I haven’t started the personal story yet, and i’d rather not have to stop in the middle to grind, I want to do it start to finish.
I have Gliding, Gliding updraft, and bouncing shroom.
What others will I need in order to finish the story in one setting?
It’s clearly never going to be possible to make a fight that is just right for everyone. That’s what difficulty settings are for.
If it was open world or ranked competitive content then of course it would have to be the same for everyone but it’s not. This is the Personal Story. It’s set in an instance. There is no need for it to be one-size-fits-all. Just give it a selectable difficulty setting and let people enjoy it how they prefer.
MMOs don’t use difficulty settings nearly as much as they could. Or should.
you can do that???
Depends on your class. I find all encounters like this to be 9,000x easier when doing them with my Ranger than with my Warrior, and 9,000x easier on the warrior than they are on the Thief.
Yes, some classes are inherently disadvantaged in certain PvE encounters, and it kind of sucks. Many of the same complaints were leveled at Living World Season 2, for that matter, where a lot of fights that were trivial on classes with a ton of inherent defenses were almost impossible to solo for classes without those advantages. While I’m fine with the open world content being difficult and requiring a group (even the Champion hero challenges), story content absolutely should be soloable on any class.
Everything is soloable on every class for story content. The amount of unavoidable damage is low enough that even a zerker thief/mesmer can easily survive if they actually utilize the rest of their kit and don’t expect to steamroll the content. source: me
“solo’able” is a varying statement. The lengths to which a class has to go to solo said content is what we are talking about.
on a thief you have dive, dodge, duck, run, heal, swap, heal, and generally use every trick in the book to solo something that a ranger can just stand back and AA at.
Any event with a melee range stun is a cake walk for a ranger, while neigh ‘undoable’ on a lone class, by that I mean without a pet.
Though can you really say you solo’ed something in the truest sense of the word as a ranger considering you’ll never be without your pet?
Try this event for an example: (not a personal story event, but proves my point nonetheless)
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Champion_Giant
easily done with a ranger.
you can’t do it with a thief.
source: you (probably)
Depends on your class. I find all encounters like this to be 9,000x easier when doing them with my Ranger than with my Warrior, and 9,000x easier on the warrior than they are on the Thief.
Serious question though, i take it that you can’t even access the part of the zone with this electric guy in it without that prerequisite grind?
Alright, so I succeeded in killing the dragon. But in the time available could not find my way to the hero point .. (9 minutes) Someone suggested that without ley line gliding it won’t be possible..
you’ll probably need full gliding, and 9 billion more xp worth of crap to do it.
stock up on XP potions and go find yourself a good botting program and AFK the zone….yes there are thousands doing this already. Followed a pack of 5 bots around last night for nearly an hour.
That’s a good way to get your account banned.
And yes, they’ll find/ban those bots.
I sure hope so….Though without them flooding the market with mats who will keep all them inflated prices down on the TP? lol
When’s the new expansion coming out?
gotta get to the crystal desert! Get on it like blue bonnet baby!
=D
Ok ok, I know a lot of people are complaining about this xpack, and its has like 1 thumb up, and half a star rating on most sites selling it, but all the same, its not ALL bad.
you only have to grind out the masteries ONCE. If it was a blizzard game you’d have to do it twice….for each toon! (lol)
Really though, Which zones would you like to see in the next iteration of Guild Wars?
So we attempted to do a dragon stand event and we got to the last part with the preservers and the bosses. How the heck!? We’re supposed to kill the preservers and that vine, then switch to kill the boss, then back to preservers??? Or is a group supposed to camp at that area where preservers come out and another group camps the boss?
It was so complicating and we started at the beginning time at 2 hours and the map failed….sigh, if this is the only way to get an electric wyvern, then that is messed up….
LOL!
You let us know once you down the thing, heh…i’ll bet the loot (lol) will be worth it AHAHAHAHAh
No, I quit my warrior.
Trophy:
“Hint: Artistic expression purchased from Explorer Loana in Cursed Shore after protecting her from the Risen King”
many of us have done this several times. She offers nothing for sale once this is done.
I know you’re busy with …whatever you do, but can this get fixed yet?
only redeeming quality is that you only have to do this grinding mastery kitten once.
You aren’t forced to play PvP or WvW to craft a precursor. You can buy the Memories of Battle and Shards of Glory on the Trading Post from other players.
Similarly, WvW players can earn Hero Points by gaining WvW ranks (though it might take longer), and PvP players don’t need to earn Hero Points at all as their Elite Specs are already unlocked as long as they own the expansion.
I think he’s referring to the Gift of Battle required for old Legendary weapons that could only be bought through playing WvW.
Legendaries are meant for players that excel in all aspects of the game. I don’t like dungeons, but I have to do them for certain parts of the legendary crafting.
where does it say that?
Legendaries are stupid skins that should be rare, unique and represent a measure of dedication, and endurance.
take this stupid nolifer neckbeard mentality and beat it.
Is playing a part of the game you don’t enjoy not an aspect of dedication and endurance? And why the personal insults? Do you believe it strengthens your “argument”?
I’m sorry, i think we are thinking the same thing here. I just havent had my morning caffeine yet.
No, I think 2 things, if you want the legendary it SHOULD be hard and involve ALL aspects of the game. (maybe not PvP but CERTAINLY WvWvW!)
It shouldn’t be a luck drop kind of thing, it should be EARNED! it should say "Yes I did this! it was a PROJECT! long hard and required skill!
It should be ACCOUNT BOUND! meaning no buying your legendary stuff off the TP!
and yes IF you want it, it should force you to play all game modes.
Thats very different than you being forced to play all game modes to progress your character.
but yeah, the Legendary should be like the top-kittens bees knees of achievements, showing skill, determination, and focus. All the aspects should be like world complete. Hard, time consuming. and not luck.
been running my grind hating face off in Dragons …whatever its call.
Not a thing….infact the lack of green and yellow mobs is quite disturbing.
aight were be my potions of see invis.
sounds to me like they dun kitten up again +(