Guild Wars 2

I can say personally as a returning player I have found quite a few things annoying and this topic is one of them.

The PvP is condition spam, I find this type of play style horrible and passive while other play styles like berserker which take far more calculated effort are harmed.

Mystic Forge, you throw in 4 level 80 exotics and get back level 75-78 exotics 1/2 of the time which might explain why I only got two precursors from maybe 500 forges of exotics. I recall it being far better in the past and fun to gamble when you didn’t go broke doing it.

Step it up Anet… step it up.

JustTrogdor.7892:

Hellmasker.1649:

And from a business standpoint, who do you think is online most? Who do you think is most likely to spend real cash on gems? Yeah, completionist AP hunters. I trust in ANet to find a happy medium at some point, I just wish they would acknowledge it. :\

Why would a completionist spend more in the gem store? There is no reason for them to do so because they are just there for points that you can get without spending a single penny beyond box price.

I’ve spent over $600 in the gem store since I started playing. Achievement points didn’t drive my purchases. I made my purchases based on things I wanted.

Being online most =/= spending money by a long shot. In fact I would argue that those not concerned with completing things are more likely to spend more in the gem store to get what they want.

I’ve spent way more than you and I was a top AP player, dedicated players probably tend to invest perhaps I don’t know. The only reason I’m even looking at this thread is because a friend linked me it on skype lol. All the disrespect from ANET lost money from me starting this year since that’s when they ruined the AP system and converted it into nearly a full time job with RNG arena wins at the same time ignoring us here on the forums with valid reactions towards the drastic change.

Also I spent money to purchase all their skins/minis etc. as a collector and I was okay with supporting them cause I had fun and the game was casual for me to enjoy. Not anymore. If I buy something I use in game gold.

Hellmasker.1649:

Yes Nar, I am, one and the same.

Mark, I’ve tried repeatedly on the forums to get a reply and have even chatted with Izzy directly a couple times about the dailies and how completionist players like myself feel like it’s too much. To date, none of the CDI’s have really fit that category well enough for me to want to post there. Lots of us have even come up with really viable, helpful, and fair solutions to it. I guess I would just like to know how the AP team feels about it and hopefully get some insight on how much longer I “have to” slave away every day. Thank you for the reply though.

I was rank 171 on the AP leaderboards with enough perm achievements left to get myself within the top 50 ranks but due to the horrible changes that no one at ANET that seemed to think about (even when it happened the first time and got lots of rants over) or even cared when we have several threads being closed/deleted I decided to quit and take my money with me because the daily grind became wayyyyy too much for myself, it was basically a full time job with those RNG arena wins and I can tell you now that I’ve quit playing I found myself enjoying myself much more, I never minded the 1-2 hour daily, it was quick but adding the arenas were way way way too much and only feels like ANET slapped me in the face after allowing me to keep up with my daily for over a year then just change it like that, a close friend of mine who was rank 5 NA also quit over it.

That is just one of few things that are disappointing that I’ve ran across, cant even create a thread with an opinion in general discussion that gemstore rock is a rip off (800 gems/80 gold for an item it would take over a year+ of mining while having to take the time to go to a certain place to mine it to get your money back.

I had a lot of faith with ANET, thought they were a great company but all i’ve seen and felt is betrayal from these guys by looking at what really happens on the froums, you can’t give them any poor viewed constructive feedback because they will close the thread to hide it from the community and updates only drive away their dedicated players over time.

I know as just one person I don’t much mean, I’m just a % of profit to them so what I say doesn’t really matter. NCsoft gets a majority of the money from this game and it’s probably why we don’t get much in return even with record breaking profits.

Good luck getting something changed because I really don’t think it will happen.

lordkrall.7241:

Osi.3504:

Most of the money goes to other games anyways, so don’t act like it doesn’t already make enough money.

Secondly you have to be smart upon purchases, who wants to buy the new dye packs with a 1 in 5 chance (550 gems/60 gold for 1 dye on average) when they are all listed for 20-45 gold each and it would be wiser to just buy them off the TP and get more for your money? Those that buy the dye packs are generally unaware of this situation before buying.

Actually prices matter a heap, some people can see when its obviously not worth it.

If it was gemstore armor/skins or tools that are considered priceless that would be a different story, this item offers us in-game items that give us money in return.

You do the math, its by far not worth it.

And how long do you think NCSoft would continue supporting ArenaNet and GW2 if it didn’t bring in enough money?

Of course, but in order for them to be available on the TP people would need to have bought them from the gemstore in the first place, so if everyone was “being smart” there would be no dyes to buy.
No, those who buy the pack simply want to either get them fast, earn extra money from selling them, or simply want to support the game.

Something being worth it is very subjective.
Checking the maths none of the permanent gathering tools (nor the salvage robot) are “worth it” and yet I find them priceless due to the massive amount of convenience they offer. Same with the nodes released with this update.

Yes but the gathering tools are priceless for the convenience, these ores you find all over the place anyways and you have to go to a certain place to get them which makes it less convenience right now so I would view those differently even with the price. I just find it absurd to sell 3 ore nodes for 80 gold that is 1) tedius) and 2) would take forever to get your money back.

lordkrall.7241:

You are making a massive mistake here.
You are under the impression that the gem-store is priced based on what the conversation between Gold – Gems is, which is very much incorrect.
They always base prices on gem-costs, not gem-gold costs.

The game needs to make money in order to survive.

Most of the money goes to other games anyways, so don’t act like it doesn’t already make enough money. gw2 has earned more money in 7 months than gw1 did in 7 years which sold far more accounts than gw2… and yet everything new costs $$, at least gw1 gave everything at events away for free for the most part.

Secondly you have to be smart upon purchases, who wants to buy the new dye packs with a 1 in 5 chance (550 gems/60 gold for 1 dye on average) when they are all listed for 20-45 gold each and it would be wiser to just buy them off the TP and get more for your money? Those that buy the dye packs are generally unaware of this situation before buying.

Actually prices matter a heap, some people can see when its obviously not worth it.

If it was gemstore armor/skins or tools that are considered priceless that would be a different story, this item offers us in-game items that give us money in return.

You do the math, its by far not worth it.

zaw.6741:

this kind of thing should be obtainable in game through some quest or achis [maybe in guild halls if these are ever introduced?]…not from shop for such ridiculous price…

For some reason I think they want to make as much money as possible which sadly goes to other MMO’s because a lot of the money from the Gemstore goes to NCsoft not ANET…. and these prices are just plain wrong. I don’t feel obligated to purchase this AT ALL. The price is crazy.

Basic Ore Node Pack – 800 gems ($10 or roughly 80 gold).

So how many months/years of mining my house nodes everyday would it take to make my 80 gold back?

Obvious this is directed at players who only wish to buy it with real money, even then they could trade the gems for gold.

Overpriced is obvious, game is too greedy.

Anyone else care to shine in?

That is what makes me think Anet/NCsoft and GW2 have been working on an expansion all this time. An MMO without expanding content is destined to fail and become stale.

I would not be surprised if they have been working on it since the game’s release tbh, I don’t see any company shooting themselves in the foot by not making expansions in this day and age.

Well, they were the ones who also came up with the Living Story which REMOVED content and gives players nothing to come back to that have taken breaks and have done great so far with profit by being overly stingy with gemstore content and giving playing hardly much of “free” content in comparison to how gw1 operated that was free and didn’t charge you and arm and a leg every month for new content.

Also the amount of gemstore content ruins the quality of the game imo. Less gold sinks, less in-game only rewards. Don’t think we’ve receieved one full armor set since launch that wasn’t TP based.

Vol.7601:

https://twitter.com/PersistentWorld/status/418816619825999872

@DragonSeasonCom I can’t wait until you guys find out what’s in store this year. People are going to die with excitement/shock

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Dragon Season ?@DragonSeasonCom 47m @CanadasMathlete @PersistentWorld I will interpret both of your statements as “Expansion incoming”. :P ~Tilion

Lewis B ?@PersistentWorld 43m @DragonSeasonCom @CanadasMathlete Oh not at all. Better than that!

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so what could possibly be better than an expansion?

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EDIT: go home everyone:

“I can confirm I am not an Anet dev. kitten . I can also confirm this has been blown WAAAY out of proportion. Still, fantastic theorycraft everyone! " – Lewis B on reddit

Well…. while an expansion would be good for the game in general to hype and bring players back to the game and show success, I question it. When ANET has shown so many poor signs for profit in the past year and the game company can just create a full tool set and make $30 a person, that’s a millionth of a fraction of work than creating an expansion for $50. Anet also seems wary of expanding the lands/leaving too much in the game as they seem to want to center players in certain areas to keep the game looking populated which an xpac would have the opposite effect. Also since last year NCsoft stated there were no plans in an interview… either this will be a quickly put together expansion or a small one of recrops etc. or they have a lot of people working on it/has for a long time with intentional lies.

When WoW comes out with their new expansion, they will have already started on the next one, it takes plenty of time to do it “right”.

Quincy.2198:

So today, I again had two afkers since start of the match.

1. Flamed us for that we blame him for afking when he came back after 4minutes.
I posted a screenshot, but Anet loves it to be blind for their faults.

2. A guardian that thinks he’s the best goes afk because we didn’t do a stomp or something. He clearly couldnt see that the other team had knockbacks etc and he was too dumb to put stabi up. But ok, so another match competely useles.

So Anet thanks for the fantastic support ur giving to the PvP players by just removing posts about this. Instead of doing that, maybe fix the afkers. ok.

Quit crying, ANET cannot possibly monitor every player nor can it prevent people from AFKing or moving every few seconds to stay in the game. If you don’t like it there are many other games you can play.

Romek very low rated, would find advice from top rated players.

ArenaNet screwed the pooch on this one. I’ve already decided to start playing a older MMO I played with some of my RL friends because it’s actually fun but I still will flip the TP and do some of my easy dailies on here and have some hope it will be fixed but good chance it won’t anytime soon if at all and I’ll lose interest completely. They can ignore the matter all they want but it doesn’t change the fact there are a lot of achievement point hunters disappointed knowing they don’t have the play time to continue it anymore. Also just because there is maybe 20 people that posted here doesn’t mean it’s just a few people, you can easily add those at the top of the leaderboard and ask them if they liked the change, unless it’s someone who plays all day Im sure the answer is no.

I loved the ladderboard because as a frequent gamer I play anywhere from 1-4 hours a day probably in my free time and being able to do AP’s since near launch was nice. It never felt like a job to me until these new arena achievements were added due to the long time and RNG required to get them. I play all aspects of the game and I do very well at anything. These achievements are not hard, they are just too time consuming, the only achievement in this game I may consider hard was Liadari 8 crystal, aside from that it’s just a fun task to do the achievements which is no longer fun unless you play at least 10 hours a day now.

The reason being is because missing 4 points a day is 1360 or so a year, I don’t see any point doing them or perhaps 5 just for the laurel if I’m going to lose ranks doing the others because gaining a high rank and holding it had good satisfaction. 1-2 hours a day was somewhat reasonable but 4-10 hours a day is absurd. To be honest this game doesn’t offer much at all for someone that plays everyday and with all the temp content there isn’t much to come back to so screwing over long hour players in the AP system to do 2 or 3 times the hours per day was a bad mistake and will only cost them money. While a lot of people I know say anyone that plays a lot doesn’t contribute real money to the game is false, just playing 2-3 hours a day is enough time to get your daily done and isn’t much time to earn money in game to purchase items so it’s likely they will spend real money instead unless they play 10+ hours a day and have time to do everything. The AP chest do not offer enough rewards to spend 2 hours a day getting all those points if I can’t get them all for ranks, at least to me. After a year of collecting AP chest I gained maybe 10% MF? It’s pitiful really and anything else it gives you can get a million times faster by flipping the TP for 5000g a month+ and purchasing it or PvPing/WvWing.

The huge fail with this change is the fact it affected a lot of players who enjoyed getting “ALL” the time gated AP’s to climb the ladderboard which you can’t do if you are missing 4 a day because they added so much time to it. So basically a lot of players got screwed over due to these lousey achievements which could have been changed to something literally 1/100th of the time frame like the other achievements fall into and make EVERYONE happy, both the AP hunters, and the sPvP players who want APs for their PvE account bonuses lol.

The lack of logic on this update was poor and because it’s being ignored it’s a huge amount of disrespect to everyone who has spent 100s to 1000s of hours doing what they enjoyed over the past year just to have the rug pulled from under their feet and this is exactly what I hate about MMO companies, I had a lot more faith in ArenaNet honestly because I played Guild Wars 1 and aside from the hero update they did I’ve seen other game companies do things like this and it destorys the community and the game in the long haul.

When people quit over what some may consider stupidity/disrespect, it’s a chain reaction because some of their close friends may lose interest now that their friend is no longer playing and so on and it’s just less people to advertise the game to others as a good game, and for what? A lame choice of achievements that could have easily been changed to something less time consuming. I for one bought all skins/mini pets and so fourth with real money because I didn’t mind supporting the game and it’s probably why I got a Christmas Card from ANET and I can tell you if you add up all the mini pets and skins it’s very pricy but why support a company that slaps you in the face with an update that could have been done so much wiser and better and then be ignored afterword while they are posting on other threads that are almost pointless/trollish?

Ah well, guess we’ll see what happens later on, they’ve already waited a bit too long I think and it has made a few peoples christmas weekend very miserable haha.

fractals would be a great option I think, between the fractal karma reward (as long as its a repeatable reward level and not a floor you havnt unlocked yet) and the fractal tokens you will build up a lot of obby shards.

Also roaming WvW with a zerg using karma boosters is good too.

Qaelyn.7612:

Rezz, your post is full of unrealistic, trite sloganeering.

I don’t buy into these BS notions that I should just pretend that losing is always my fault when it isn’t. I blame myself when I screw up; I blame my team when they act like morons. And 2/3 of the games I play, there’s a lot more of the latter than the former.

“Never die”? “Adapt to them”? Give me a break. I do adapt to my team behaving stupidly, such as when I’m on a team with players who do a ton of direct damage but they can’t be bothered to get the treb, so I go and get it. But most of the time we lose anyway because they don’t do anything effective in the meantime.

I had one game earlier where I was fighting two players on a point at once for long stretches of time without dying. We still lost. I’m not sure what more it is realistic to expect me to do.

I very often try to discuss tactics before the match. 95% of the time I get no response or the tactics are ignored.

I’m sure my whining is a turn-off for some, but this is the only outlet I have for what has become a very unsatisfying experience. At this point I am only still in PvP out of stubbornness and because I want to raise my rank higher. I always try my best – even when trailing 400-40 – but I cannot make up for 2 or 3 or 4 other people behaving foolishly (or not being present, for that matter.)

If there were a build I really could use to “carry” an entire team, I’d love to know what it is.

I know what you are talking about… not just about being lost in the leaderboards but also with all the troll responses. I lost 14 soloQ matches in a row one day and nearly every time I had 2 or 3x the score contribution than the others lol. The day before I won 8 and lost just 1 game and I was a previous top 100r before ladder reset but due to the lack of bunkers on my team and the amount of morons I have played with that day… I lost a lot of games, but did have a couple close ones… yes only a couple.

And yes, I’m one of those who try to complete all the achievements too that you seemed to support the 6 hour no life system over the previous one that didnt take much time or something and losing that many matches in a day just adds on the hours…

Malediktus.9250:

Of course there need to be more ingredients, but something has to be done, because gossamer is getting cheaper than silk and linen which does not make sense from a quality standpoint.

That’s because people stocked up for a very long time in advance to the update, not very much was needed and a lot of people were turning all the silk in the game into gossamer, the balance may be okay in the future once the surplus is gone and people calm down on ascended armor like they have with weapons.

Vol.7601:

Osi.3504:

Vol.7601:

Silver and gold ore are good speculative opportunities considering the likelihood of the next legendaries being accessories (though it may be leaning towards backpieces).

Nonetheless, crafting ascended jewelery is a bit peculiar considering it is rather easy to get in game.

If you had already bought it then it probably is a great investment however I have a feeling this will end up just like gossamer, people will be stocking this for the next few months and there will be way too much in-game to make a profit off of.

Also everyone, keep in mind there is a way to earn every ascended item through both in-game means + crafting, and not trinkets. If anything I think they will add Ascended craftable trinkets before they even touch on Legendary Trinkets.

I don’t think people stocking up on an item is the real issue. The problem with gossamer was that it turned out it had very limited use in ascended armor, and people began to dump it since the demand could not keep up.

Then you look at something like silk scrap, which for the longest time people have been throwing at vendors. People could have stocked up on that but the reason why it’s still up is because there is way more demand than supply.

Of course, there will be risk with silver/gold/platinum ore. We will never know how much of a demand there will be for it once ascended JC comes out.

I guess the best way to mitigate risk is to take advantage of late speculators and sell before the release.

Yes, you always want to dump early, once enough people start this stock up/dump style merchanting then you have to outplay the rest. This was very common in other MMOs.

DuranArgith.1354:

Are the PVP players actually happy about this situation? Cant you see how toxic soloQ has become? How much the overall skill level has fallen?

People dont defend or camp points, they push far at start leaving the first mid battle that decides the tempo of the whole game. Afkers are still there, 4v5 still happen. It has become hotjoin. Not just that, people spend more time accusing and insulting opthers than actually playing to win.

Team Pvp will soon be destroyed as well, once more people get to try it.

How can the PVP players still defend the changes?

Lol I know, my ignore list has grown so much from just playing since the new change from all the nerd raging immature sPvPers and trolls, such a pathetic community. I get insulted by players all the time, usually for beating them like it’s suppose to be personal… But yeah… it was mostly adding money to sPvP that has caused this but achievement points has too for those that play like 12 hours a day and dont mind doing them.

Vol.7601:

Silver and gold ore are good speculative opportunities considering the likelihood of the next legendaries being accessories (though it may be leaning towards backpieces).

Nonetheless, crafting ascended jewelery is a bit peculiar considering it is rather easy to get in game.

If you had already bought it then it probably is a great investment however I have a feeling this will end up just like gossamer, people will be stocking this for the next few months and there will be way too much in-game to make a profit off of.

Also everyone, keep in mind there is a way to earn every ascended item through both in-game means + crafting, and not trinkets. If anything I think they will add Ascended craftable trinkets before they even touch on Legendary Trinkets.

Hairstyle Contract comes from the Wintersday Boxes that contained the 5 mini’s from last Christmas, my girlfriend ended up getting one plus a weapon ticket. This year we havn’t seen it but still is a chance they may do something with the hair stylist contract.

Hair Stylist Contract never has came from the BLC.

Zirith.6429:

Osi.3504:

Zirith.6429:

I still cant believe that achievement whores are complaining about being able to get more points.

I still can’t believe people like you are still coming to this thread and can’t read before posting. I have a lack of faith in humanity, good example is the quoted post.

I dont bother reading trash posts because they are made by people that lose faith in humanity when someone disagrees with them, go back to /r/atheism.

I was being sarcastic because your question was answered over 10 times in this thread and reading your comment Im not sure what there is to disagree with since you said nothing useful to begin with. You must be another immature spvp troll, yet another worthless post by another worthless troll, I bet the woman are climbing all over you. My post also had no religion attached to it +1 to you.

Zirith.6429:

I still cant believe that achievement whores are complaining about being able to get more points.

I still can’t believe people like you are still coming to this thread and can’t read before posting. I have a lack of faith in humanity, good example is the quoted post.

Wouldn’t play with this guy, he is on my ignore list and for good reason.
1) rages at every death
2) thinks 1v1 builds that has advantages over other builds makes you a good player rather than how good you actually are.

Doubt he would be any fun in a team, but g’l to anyone that takes him ^^

Malediktus.9250:

I dont get why noone of the anet employes cant spare a minute for a single sentence or two I dont think its too much to ask for.

Cause they know they screwed up on so many levels and don’t want to appear that they did probably or want to take heat for it.

When you have rage over an existing update they didn’t do something right and the rage isn’t just in this thread but many others.

For my past 12-14 soloQ matches that i’ve lost in a row (had a few close games) I couldn’t believe how many hotjoin method players were in there and what is worse with each loss I only drop ratings instead of advance. Before the ladderboard update I was in the top 40 ranks and enjoyed playing competitivly with players that knew what they were doing. Now I get to play with people who are leaving caps after spending ages to get them to watch them be decapped quickly, AFKers at the start of tournaments, people that fight for far point the entire game and get no where when they could help capture and hold mid instead. Now we have achievements tied to these that are RNG based and it depends on your team mates.

This game is turning into a pile of kitten, and so is spvp/achievements. I’m very frusterated with the update not just only for achievements, but the RNG and lack of quality players + the bad ladderboard system that only punishes you for having terrible team mates.

Nuff said with the title, I’m really tired of the quality of players I’m getting stuck with, and with each loss I only go down rather than up.

Watching 3 of my team mates fight for far point and finally get it after 2 minutes then all of them left it there while the respawns ran back and quickly decapped it.

Team mates that stack to cap a point for the points rather than being useful and going elsewhere while one person caps it.

Zerging groups of 3 or 4 running around off points.

AFKs at the start of matches.

Srsly ANET? GG rewarding silver to people and adding achievements that are so RNG based to get.

Edit: At least T-PvP has a majority of wise players in it still to compeitivly play together. My first team spvp match where everyone knew what to do compared to my last 15 miserble soloQ matches.

Placed this in the wrong forum somehow, would be nice if a moderator could move it to sPvP. Thanks

Chullster.3608:

Easy way to stop all flippers, speculators and insider traders (like what happened to the crossing) make all tp purchases account bound = no more problems

That would be bad for the economy. Too much gold would be in-game, one of the largest gold sinks would be gone. Making money off the TP isn’t the problem, the people who think so are just mad about it. Flipping has benefited this game a ton. If all the gold stayed in the game you would be looking at precursors being 1000’s of gold a peice.

Xaviar.2468:

Greetings,
There is a huge issue that is almost not being addressed by the community afaics
Flippers & Real Money Trading Outside the Gem-store

There’s a large amount of Players lurking in the shadows buying hordes of Gold From Websites/ Chinese Re-sellers and so on and that Effect the Gem Prices because less supply vs more demands and it Causes Anet to lose a fair good amount of money that can be used for Development and causes the player to get less for the time they’ve spent farming those gold and so on

2nd Issue at hand is Broker Flippers
They just flip the broker buying an item or a material or w/e for an Small “x” Amount of gold and sell it for higher basically earning money over time by almost doing nothing and it causes the prices to go higher and higher over time

i just wanted to point out these two issues because its effecting the game in a bad way
i don’t know much of solutions to the Flippers but the RMT can be avoided by setting an “xxxx” amount of gold to be mailed to anyone per month or per week and restrict it to friend-list "For an example a friend that have been in the friend list for an “xx” amount of time"
My dearest Respects!
Xry

Flipping is GOOD for the economy. 99.9% of the people that bring this subject up are just mad at people making what they think is “fast and easy money” but the FACT IS it’s good, it takes away lots of gold by relisting the items multiple times and it does not increase the price of items. It may ever so small that it is irrelivant and prices/bid prices will reset so it’s profitable again. If what you claim is the case, then exotics would be over 100g each by now by CONSTANT overbids since launch. No that’s not how it works, it keeps a fair and legit price.

Also much of what you see “peak” in price like ori is not from just one person, it’s from the whole game knowing updates are coming and they are buying them up. It doesn’t always work out, most people that stocked up during Ascended Armor lost money because people stocked way too much. Also from my understanding Arenanet watches for such things and the people who “hoard” tend to lose a lot of money because they may allow those materials to become easier to get during an update.

Don’t worry about the Trading Post market, John Smith has that covered pretty well.

Qaelyn, you seem to care too much about a subject you apprently are not interested in. Seems like a legit troll there.

Also I found it funny about the gambling habbit comment. If that was true I guess I wouldn’t have 1000’s of gold in this game. Perhaps it’s a playstyle and we were playing the game just fine until the change, the change is what made “the game playing us”. Actually bud, if you did something for a year+ that you enjoyed and they changed it and ruined it for you, I bet you would vent too.

I understand trolls will just be trolls and have a terrible PoV because they are trying to create a valid arguement and just that, troll.

SoloQ is just stupid, so many people that don’t know how to play wise you have to play with. Lost 8 games in a row because we lack a good comp, or we got one guy attacking far point the whole game and failing at taking it, people that want to double sit on nodes for the “points”. Or a zerging while we have backcaps going on. It’s like hotjoin just went SoloQ.

Also got in a team Tourny where people were being “useful” and double sitting on nodes for the points…

These people all in the top 500 ranks… I mean really? Then when you lose you have to play with even more lower ranked players. It’s just a stupid system to add to achievements.

If anything give gold rewards for the achievement wins, and remove the APs and add faster achievements first. I’m not sure who thought it was a bright idea to add these achievements to the list but it will likely costs you a lot of dedicated players that enjoyed this aspect of the game as others enjoy other aspects because I will no longer work on leaderboards if I have to spend 2 hours getting no where due to sheer bad RNG for AP’s and will be one less thing to interest me in this game.

The lack of common sense on this update was a shame. The person that should be incharge of adding achievements should be someone that understands the system, not a random sPvP dev or whoever it was that has no clue of the subject.

Achievemenets WERE designed to show veteran status, the way living story achievments went away, and daily/monthly rolled over. People could eventually catch up granted someone quit or took a break and started losing about 500 AP a month from content.

This update now made it a no-life system which means you must not have a job or sleep. In order to maintain at the top you must play ALOT each day and deal with horrible RNG now. The daily that previously took 2 hours tops is now a 4-6+ hour complete daily.

As for all the trolls/idiots in the thread, there is no reason these can’t be changed to something else that isn’t so RNG based and is much quicker to complete. Or even keep them but remove the AP’s and add a gold reward instead since all tournaments now reward silver. They could also cap it so you can’t received more than 10 daily achievement points a day, I would be happy with that instead of them saying if you want to continue to do this, lose your job and play our game all day. The only ones who care or support these are people that don’t give a crap and enjoy the misery of others which says a lot about you. You people most likly need a lot of help yourselves if that is what makes you happy.

Logic please…. I don’t see it with this update at all, or with anyone that has been in support of this update. I see a lot of people preaching to others who clearly have no business in this thread except for trolling.

If trolling was bannable this forum would be very dead which says a lot about the sPvP community in general.

Adris.1859:

Osi.3504:

I have a job, family and friends and I don’t have 8 hours a day to play to garentee I get everything done.

So there is still hope. You should be happy. It might be a turning point for you.

Watch out it’s the Hardy Boyzzzz

Adris.1859:

People make themselves slaves, and make their lives miserable for few points in a game nobody even cares about. Humanity has to extinct. It just has to.

I’ve read many of those post… why don’t you find something constructive to do than sit on here and preach to people what people already know, you clearly have no business here because this doesn’t effect you since you don’t see the issue of changing the daily from a 1-3 hour project to a 4-6+ hour project which isn’t nice to people who have commited their time for the past year+ doing them.

I’m not a slave, I choose to do them and have for the PAST YEAR, however due to poor decisions AFTER A YEAR TIME FRAME as I’ve said if this doesn’t change I’ll likely quit all together because doing what few people like yourself can’t do or commit to, I enjoy and like. I’ve done ladderboards in other games too. But the change is too much of a change time wise to continue on and will no longer be worth it because I have a job, family and friends and I don’t have 8 hours a day to play to garentee I get everything done.

Everyone that plays this game does something they don’t want to to earn something else so you might as well call 99% of the game slaves. People queensdale farm for gold which they dont really want to do to earn something like a legendary or gemstore items. People level a character to 80 without liking any game modes. It’s no different than people willing to do achievements they dont want to do to earn the satisfaction of a high leaderboard rank which becomes worth it.

Again, logic check here… the problem is the sudden time increase to dailies, not the fact that we don’t want to do them, don’t mind hard achievements, or win achievements.

Romek.4201:

this thread is soooooo funny^^

seriously guyz – wait for the storm when arenanet bring the rewards you can get in spvp only for being good

oooh the QQ from all this people who think they deserve everything just for buying the game^^

Whats funny is you. Most of the achievement players at the top are all GOOD sPvP players. I realize a lot of people lack the logic that some people play all game modes, not just one like you might. There have been a lot of achievements that were harder than these but much faster and easier(granted you were good) to earn, like crab toss win during the living story every single day, or throwing 8 crystals at lidari. All of these harder achievements mean you can play well, even sPvP. If they weren’t good or decent at the game they wouldn’t be among the top ranks to begin with.

Sorry for your lack of logic pal, not the first time you’ve posted something trollish and sad.

Yeah I love how ANET is responding to other threads, or even troll/silly post yet they completely ignore us and it comes off wrong. These dailies need to be toned down or I’m probably going to find something more enjoyable to play and casual to play. I didn’t mind doing 1-3 hours a day for my daily and still have time to play with my friends and do things I wanted to do aside from achievements I didnt want to to keep my rank that I wanted to keep up. I stayed comitted to my dailies since launch (well a few months after once I realised the salvaging wasn’t actually infintie and my dailies had real value) and now after a year they drop a bomb on us and say you have to double or tripple your playtime to maintain your achievement ranks. I don’t see the logic there.

Now this update is taking the fun out of the game for me. Either I have to commit too much time doing my daily and therefore it’s no longer worth my dedication towards the ladderboards or the game that I’ve spent a lot of time on or I just need to take my money elsewhere where I can casually play well and do well without being forced to grind 6 hours a day and I’m sure a lot of others are in the same boat because ANET thought it was a brilliant idea to add 8 WINS PER DAY towards achievement grinders who have jobs, families etc. and now we are expected to play 3 EXTRA hours a day to maintain our ranks that we’ve worked on for the past YEAR. If it was this way at launch then I would have choosen then if it was worth it or not. Instead if this stays I’ve wasted a lot of time doing dailies for the past year because I don’t see myself staying committed to this torture time game anymore. 6 hours a day is too much towards dailies.

I’m really disgusted at this subject, the no response or change yet, and I could care less about all the bad trolls in these forums. If anything, this update just brought a lot of bad players to the spvp games and is irritating the trolls on the forums/legit players more than anything lol, least today I won 8 matches and lost 1 match so it was much quicker than yesterday where I probably won 8 and lost 8 or more -.-

Evan Lesh.3295:

• Each stack of dishonor has it’s own duration of 72 hours.
• You can play until your account has 3 stacks of dishonor.
• You cannot play until your account has less than 3 stacks. (Think of bleed stacks)
• Dishonor stacks expire while offline.
• Being kicked by AFK detection automatically adds a dishonor stack.
• Being absent from a match will add a stack of dishonor when the match has ended.

Simple version: You can leave a maximum of 3 games every 3 day period. Those could be spread out: If you leave once a day, you effectively lock yourself out every 24 hours. They could be stacked quickly: Leaving 3 times in one day means and cannot play almost the maximum of 72 hours.

Does that mean I’m not allowed to switch to another class mid-game anymore and if I do it 3 times I’ll get a debuff and be locked out of ALL games for 3 days???

If that’s true that’s a little absurd, especially for anyone doing achievements each day for the AP’s to maintain their leaderboard rank or spvp rank. I’m pretty sure I swapped to another character at least a couple times so far mid-game… I didnt techincally leave the match and yet nearly got punished for it?

You guys should be more clear or make these things less overwhelming like 3 hours debuff, other games I’ve played did a similar thing but it wasn’t so drastic… maybe 30 min debuff that you couldn’t join again. If I was locked out from doing my APs for 3 days that would be a huge disappointment.

Lord Kuru.3685:

Osi.3504:

Lord Kuru.3685:

azizul.8469:

ascended gear was added to the game simply to rectify ANET’s own mistake in estimating how long the players could get the exotics, which turns out to be very fast….

so yeah, it’s their mistake; we had to grind…

It’s amazing that people still believe that lie by Anet. Please refer to the (now infamous) quote by Colin Johnson about expecting people to reach BiS gear by the time they reach level 80.

The game was rushed out the door… they already intended to have ascended gear in the game clearly because if you look at the release date, and look at when fractals came out, there was no way in hell they created the gear in the short period of time.

Please quit fooling yourselves and looking for the negative that doesn’t exist. Guild Wars 2 wasn’t even finished upon release, and sPvP is a good view of that.

They likely had fractals under development but shoehorned Ascended in when they decided to do a 180 on the gear grind. Again, refer to the infamous quote.

Anet simply got greedy when the game sold more than expected and panicked when those who were not their target audience started complaining about the lack of grind. So now we have a game that was developed to be one thing, but supported after release to be something else — making the whole thing a big mess that satisfies no one.

Do you live in Washington or Colorodo? Nevermind that, just because one guy said one thing doesn’t mean he was right and you don’t have to hold onto it till you die, it’s possible for them to be wrong and it wasn’t the first time one Dev said something that wasn’t correct. There is also a quote out there that said it was already intended to be implemented and if you realize how long it takes to design game icons, items etc. then you would be able to understand Ascended gear was implemented before the game came out it was just not released yet because Fractals was one of the updates they planned to introduce to us for content.

Lord Kuru.3685:

azizul.8469:

ascended gear was added to the game simply to rectify ANET’s own mistake in estimating how long the players could get the exotics, which turns out to be very fast….

so yeah, it’s their mistake; we had to grind…

It’s amazing that people still believe that lie by Anet. Please refer to the (now infamous) quote by Colin Johnson about expecting people to reach BiS gear by the time they reach level 80.

The game was rushed out the door… they already intended to have ascended gear in the game clearly because if you look at the release date, and look at when fractals came out, there was no way in hell they created the gear in the short period of time.

Please quit fooling yourselves and looking for the negative that doesn’t exist. Guild Wars 2 wasn’t even finished upon release, and sPvP is a good view of that.

mesme.5028:

I started gw2 perhaps just over 6 months ago and It feels like all we do in is grind, maybe it is fine for peeps who got gw2 when it was released?

Most peeps want decent armor and weapons, this is before you consider ascended trinkets, back piece and rings, then getting infused, if you add up the time the laurels take to get these and then the infusion and mats, its quite the grind in itself.

Now we are onto ascended weapons and leveling crafting, this is costly and you have to grind like mad for the mats and gold to be able to level crafting, then you have to make said weapon.

Next its onto ascended armor, again the grind to level more crafting and again the mats and gold required and the grind that goes with it.

I don’t want to be left behind and i am sure others feel that way too, on my main character i have got all the ascended trinkets and rings infused where appropriate, as yet have no ascended weapon ( grinding for it atm)

Now we are onto ascended armor and i still have the weapon grinding, will the grind ever stop?

All this and i would like a legendary, thou i don’t see me ever getting one, i have given up any hope of ever getting one like many other peeps, as i just do not have the gold or enough hours in the day to grind for that also.

Really Devs enough with the grind, let the peeps who didn’t get gw2 on release day have a chance to catch up, will you? please, pretty please with sugar on top.

This isn’t world of warcraft, there is hardly a vertical climb on gear, anyone can purchase exotic gear and by time you hit 80 if you played wise or well you should have more than enough money for exotics. Ascended is the only climb so I’m not sure how you can ‘catch’ up exactly unless you are asking for it to be handed to you.

All games are a grind, it’s how they are portrayed that makes them feel like one. GW2 does a great job at trying to keep different ways to obtain things rather than just one.

I got one in the mail too, girlfriend bought it in and said it was from ArenaNet :P

Just got a christmas card in the mail signed by a lot of people, thanks!

Skale Venom stinks with it’s 45 second cooldown and being blockable etc. It being instant cast doesn’t really make up for it’s downs.

Seems like more of a high fractal PvE skill than a amazing PvP skill.

I would love to see venomshare buffed and to be useful if they would fix venoms.

Guild Wars 2 PvP Problems
- Conquest is it’s only game mode
- No GvG, which was a popular format within guilds as guilds wanted to proudly play and represent their guild
- Guild Halls brought attraction
- Intense playback feeds of the top GvG matches, which you can’t do either

GW1 has a lot of core features that I would assume would boost GW2 spvp popularity, none of which is in the game and seems to be ignored.

Until you give good rewards, good watchable coverage, perhaps some shout outs that a match is going on. I don’t really see spvp getting the attention they want it to have.

Flytrap.8075:

Osi.3504:

Flytrap.8075:

Writetyper.1985:

You heard it here folks – because you farm peoples guilds in WvW, tPvP achievments should be made easier. A flawless arguement.

And you’d think that he’d be busy farming his tPvP wins instead of spending so much time on the forums

Already got all my tpvp wins today, wasn’t that bad but still took well over 2 hours to play the 8+ games.

Btw, Yak’s doesn’t have any good guilds, and considering you only roam, I found it hard to believe that you farm our guild all day. Anyway, I wish you luck in your attempt to remove content from this game.

mmkay if you say so, SBI better prove itself before it sinks into 3rd again against YB with no good guilds :o

Keep on trollin! woo woo. Later

Flytrap.8075:

Writetyper.1985:

You heard it here folks – because you farm peoples guilds in WvW, tPvP achievments should be made easier. A flawless arguement.

And you’d think that he’d be busy farming his tPvP wins instead of spending so much time on the forums

Already got all my tpvp wins today, wasn’t that bad but still took well over 2 hours to play the 8+ games.

Flytrap.8075:

Osi.3504:

Flytrap.8075:

Osi.3504:

Flytrap.8075:

Osi.3504:

Flytrap.8075:

Osi.3504:

Flytrap.8075:

Osi.3504:

Writetyper.1985:

Liewec.2896:

with any luck they’ll review their data and see that noone is doing the daily anymore and revert the change.

With any luck you’ll realize that you only have to do 4 of the 8 achievements to get the daily. The original 4 are still there. Nothing is different.

If anything, it’s easier.

Read the thread, save yourself time. People that complete all achievements for the leaderboards are different and the REAL problem is the fact they just added 2-3+ more hours onto the current daily, it’s too time consuming. brain power please.

Then don’t do the extra dailies.

That is aside from the point, again you have your head in the sand. I’ve been doing all my dailies since launch, I’m not going to change unless ANET wants to take a kitten on everyone that completes achievements as they want some to do(leaderboards for a reason duh) by changing it from 3 or less hours to 6 or more which is obviously a flawed and failed 3 hour achievement implementation for 4 points that no lifers will do because they have 12 hours a day to play the game.

I understand not everyone is bright and doesn’t have the logic to comprehend the situation because most people on here are trolls or just don’t care and the reason for the stupid reponses. Move along and post where you can actually post some constructive critism than an arrogant response.

You’re going to be so upset when ANet adds in Dailies/Monthlies that are specific to other game-modes.

Not at all, I play all game modes actually and I do well in all. All I’m saying is I want to keep my daily in a reasonable time limit, not to suddenly be changed one day 15 months later after people have dedicated their time to take two or three times as long on a patch. That’s obviously a stupid decision and it’s not just a small population of the game that does achievements everyday. The last time they did this, it was reverted and this is why I’m amazed it happened AGAIN. The lack of common sense is disturbing. There are many many other ways to add achievements for sPvP players that do not take 3 hours.

The entire PvE daily can be done way faster than that and if they DID want “wins” to be added they could have made them 1 solo wins/1 tourny win at the least.

Btw your from [Bags], nuff said.

You’re*

I’m also glad that my guild’s reputation precedes me; obviously we’re doing something right.

Well I farm YOUR guild in WvW all the time when YER not all grouped up, I just hear in WvW chat how you troll YER own server all the time. I guess that’s something to be proud of and as I said “nuff said”.

May I ask what prestigious guild you call home?

I assume you meant server, I play on Yak’s Bend. Anyways back on topic. ^^

No, I asked you what guild you’re a part of.

I play in TOG but generally roam WvW, I don’t play enough at one game mode to dedicate myself to WvW or sPvP guilds because I don’t have 12 hours a day to play like some or those one just play the game for one mode.

Flytrap.8075:

Osi.3504:

Flytrap.8075:

Osi.3504:

Flytrap.8075:

Osi.3504:

Flytrap.8075:

Osi.3504:

Writetyper.1985:

Liewec.2896:

with any luck they’ll review their data and see that noone is doing the daily anymore and revert the change.

With any luck you’ll realize that you only have to do 4 of the 8 achievements to get the daily. The original 4 are still there. Nothing is different.

If anything, it’s easier.

Read the thread, save yourself time. People that complete all achievements for the leaderboards are different and the REAL problem is the fact they just added 2-3+ more hours onto the current daily, it’s too time consuming. brain power please.

Then don’t do the extra dailies.

That is aside from the point, again you have your head in the sand. I’ve been doing all my dailies since launch, I’m not going to change unless ANET wants to take a kitten on everyone that completes achievements as they want some to do(leaderboards for a reason duh) by changing it from 3 or less hours to 6 or more which is obviously a flawed and failed 3 hour achievement implementation for 4 points that no lifers will do because they have 12 hours a day to play the game.

I understand not everyone is bright and doesn’t have the logic to comprehend the situation because most people on here are trolls or just don’t care and the reason for the stupid reponses. Move along and post where you can actually post some constructive critism than an arrogant response.

You’re going to be so upset when ANet adds in Dailies/Monthlies that are specific to other game-modes.

Not at all, I play all game modes actually and I do well in all. All I’m saying is I want to keep my daily in a reasonable time limit, not to suddenly be changed one day 15 months later after people have dedicated their time to take two or three times as long on a patch. That’s obviously a stupid decision and it’s not just a small population of the game that does achievements everyday. The last time they did this, it was reverted and this is why I’m amazed it happened AGAIN. The lack of common sense is disturbing. There are many many other ways to add achievements for sPvP players that do not take 3 hours.

The entire PvE daily can be done way faster than that and if they DID want “wins” to be added they could have made them 1 solo wins/1 tourny win at the least.

Btw your from [Bags], nuff said.

You’re*

I’m also glad that my guild’s reputation precedes me; obviously we’re doing something right.

Well I farm YOUR guild in WvW all the time when YER not all grouped up, I just hear in WvW chat how you troll YER own server all the time. I guess that’s something to be proud of and as I said “nuff said”.

May I ask what prestigious guild you call home?

I assume you meant server, I play on Yak’s Bend. Anyways back on topic. ^^

Romek.4201:

to farm people in wvw is something to can be proud off? lol seriously – move on

Guess you don’t read straight. I said they troll their own server and that must be something to be proud of. I stated I farmed his guild before that.

Selective reading? – move on

Flytrap.8075:

Osi.3504:

Flytrap.8075:

Osi.3504:

Flytrap.8075:

Osi.3504:

Writetyper.1985:

Liewec.2896:

with any luck they’ll review their data and see that noone is doing the daily anymore and revert the change.

With any luck you’ll realize that you only have to do 4 of the 8 achievements to get the daily. The original 4 are still there. Nothing is different.

If anything, it’s easier.

Read the thread, save yourself time. People that complete all achievements for the leaderboards are different and the REAL problem is the fact they just added 2-3+ more hours onto the current daily, it’s too time consuming. brain power please.

Then don’t do the extra dailies.

That is aside from the point, again you have your head in the sand. I’ve been doing all my dailies since launch, I’m not going to change unless ANET wants to take a kitten on everyone that completes achievements as they want some to do(leaderboards for a reason duh) by changing it from 3 or less hours to 6 or more which is obviously a flawed and failed 3 hour achievement implementation for 4 points that no lifers will do because they have 12 hours a day to play the game.

I understand not everyone is bright and doesn’t have the logic to comprehend the situation because most people on here are trolls or just don’t care and the reason for the stupid reponses. Move along and post where you can actually post some constructive critism than an arrogant response.

You’re going to be so upset when ANet adds in Dailies/Monthlies that are specific to other game-modes.

Not at all, I play all game modes actually and I do well in all. All I’m saying is I want to keep my daily in a reasonable time limit, not to suddenly be changed one day 15 months later after people have dedicated their time to take two or three times as long on a patch. That’s obviously a stupid decision and it’s not just a small population of the game that does achievements everyday. The last time they did this, it was reverted and this is why I’m amazed it happened AGAIN. The lack of common sense is disturbing. There are many many other ways to add achievements for sPvP players that do not take 3 hours.

The entire PvE daily can be done way faster than that and if they DID want “wins” to be added they could have made them 1 solo wins/1 tourny win at the least.

Btw your from [Bags], nuff said.

You’re*

I’m also glad that my guild’s reputation precedes me; obviously we’re doing something right.

Well I farm YOUR guild in WvW all the time when YER not all grouped up, I just hear in WvW chat how you troll YER own server all the time. I guess that’s something to be proud of and as I said “nuff said”.

Writetyper.1985:

Shakki.3219:

And again a useless post above me.

Why can’t people realize that the Achievement people want to do EVERY daily category for the AP you can get, is it that hard?

No actually – I don’t understand. Why? For what purpose? You want to do them, but you don’t want to do them? kittening what?

Shakki.3219:

And people are complaining because they’re not able to without spending alot of time especially now with the Win tpvp kitten….

But if you’re not a PvP player and are incapable of winning tPvP, then why? To keep up with people on the leaderboards? I guess you just aren’t hardcore enough if you’re not able to do every daily and are going to get the place on the leaderboards, by the way. There’s a word that describes this behavior perfectly btw: Starts with A, ryhmes with Ballistic.

Shakki.3219:

The daily is broken anyways, it should be like: choose 5 pve dailies, 4 pvp dailies and thats it, no more AP after these if you complete any. This makes it truly choosable for every kind of player.

It is choosable. You only have to do 4 dailies to get the chest.

Never thought I’d see the day where the forums would complain about having MORE things to do, but apparently it’s here.

How about you get a clue. 99.9% of the people who are annoyed at this update are annoyed at the RNG factor + the 3 additonal hours of dailies added to the old ones which should raise a huge flag. Not because they —“can’t”-- win a PvP match. Last time I checked this game was “casual” in pretty much every aspect imaginable compared to other MMO’s and no lifing shouldn’t be required 15 months later suddently out of no where screw people over.

It’s also a playstyle as this game has many, while yours may be playing 1 hour a week and just spending time doing a few PvP matches, others just want their laurel, want to collect all the skins(why they are making a wardrobe eventually), obtain all the legendary weapons, some people just like to play the market and others want to work on achievement leaderboards. Nothing wrong with it.

With your logic anyone that wants to hold a top pvp rank must have issues too eh? Na, it’s a playstyle, a challenge, and making the daily 2x long isn’t a challenge, it’s just stupid. Doing all the dailies before this update was a challenege as it was, not everyone does it.

Flytrap.8075:

Osi.3504:

Flytrap.8075:

Osi.3504:

Writetyper.1985:

Liewec.2896:

with any luck they’ll review their data and see that noone is doing the daily anymore and revert the change.

With any luck you’ll realize that you only have to do 4 of the 8 achievements to get the daily. The original 4 are still there. Nothing is different.

If anything, it’s easier.

Read the thread, save yourself time. People that complete all achievements for the leaderboards are different and the REAL problem is the fact they just added 2-3+ more hours onto the current daily, it’s too time consuming. brain power please.

Then don’t do the extra dailies.

That is aside from the point, again you have your head in the sand. I’ve been doing all my dailies since launch, I’m not going to change unless ANET wants to take a kitten on everyone that completes achievements as they want some to do(leaderboards for a reason duh) by changing it from 3 or less hours to 6 or more which is obviously a flawed and failed 3 hour achievement implementation for 4 points that no lifers will do because they have 12 hours a day to play the game.

I understand not everyone is bright and doesn’t have the logic to comprehend the situation because most people on here are trolls or just don’t care and the reason for the stupid reponses. Move along and post where you can actually post some constructive critism than an arrogant response.

You’re going to be so upset when ANet adds in Dailies/Monthlies that are specific to other game-modes.

Not at all, I play all game modes actually and I do well in all. All I’m saying is I want to keep my daily in a reasonable time limit, not to suddenly be changed one day 15 months later after people have dedicated their time to take two or three times as long on a patch. That’s obviously a stupid decision and it’s not just a small population of the game that does achievements everyday. The last time they did this, it was reverted and this is why I’m amazed it happened AGAIN. The lack of common sense is disturbing. There are many many other ways to add achievements for sPvP players that do not take 3 hours.

The entire PvE daily can be done way faster than that and if they DID want “wins” to be added they could have made them 1 solo wins/1 tourny win at the least.

Btw your from [Bags], nuff said.

Flytrap.8075:

Osi.3504:

Writetyper.1985:

Liewec.2896:

with any luck they’ll review their data and see that noone is doing the daily anymore and revert the change.

With any luck you’ll realize that you only have to do 4 of the 8 achievements to get the daily. The original 4 are still there. Nothing is different.

If anything, it’s easier.

Read the thread, save yourself time. People that complete all achievements for the leaderboards are different and the REAL problem is the fact they just added 2-3+ more hours onto the current daily, it’s too time consuming. brain power please.

Then don’t do the extra dailies.

That is aside from the point, again you have your head in the sand. I’ve been doing all my dailies since launch, I’m not going to change unless ANET wants to take a kitten on everyone that completes achievements as they want some to do(leaderboards for a reason duh) by changing it from 3 or less hours to 6 or more which is obviously a flawed and failed 3 hour achievement implementation for 4 points that no lifers will do because they have 12 hours a day to play the game.

I understand not everyone is bright and doesn’t have the logic to comprehend the situation because most people on here are trolls or just don’t care and the reason for the stupid reponses. Move along and post where you can actually post some constructive critism than an arrogant response.

Flytrap.8075:

Shakki.3219:

And again a useless post above me.

Why can’t people realize that the Achievement people want to do EVERY daily category for the AP you can get, is it that hard?

And people are complaining because they’re not able to without spending alot of time especially now with the Win tpvp kitten….

The daily is broken anyways, it should be like: choose 5 pve dailies, 4 pvp dailies and thats it, no more AP after these if you complete any. This makes it truly choosable for every kind of player.

If people wish to complain the others, add some silver or karma to that.

Your complaints are ridiculous. No one besides yourself is making you do these extra daily achievements. The people who ONLY play sPvP are grateful for the fact that they can stay in Heart of the Mists while playing and still complete their daily, yet here you are selfishly asking ANet to take them away because you don’t want to put in the time to stay on your precious leaderboard.

Some of us play all parts of the game, not just one and we want fair balance. Get over it.

Writetyper.1985:

Liewec.2896:

with any luck they’ll review their data and see that noone is doing the daily anymore and revert the change.

With any luck you’ll realize that you only have to do 4 of the 8 achievements to get the daily. The original 4 are still there. Nothing is different.

If anything, it’s easier.

Read the thread, save yourself time. People that complete all achievements for the leaderboards are different and the REAL problem is the fact they just added 2-3+ more hours onto the current daily, it’s too time consuming. brain power please.