Guild Wars 2

gannondorf.7628:

Nieguen.6235:

So then you are nearly unkillable? Sure.

This. Give me a finger and i want your arm, classic.
Revenant is designed to be weak to condi. If you play it right it’s not a real problem, and it is going to be less when mallyx get some changes. If you can’t play with condi weakness try another class, like engineer, guardian or warrior.

Maybe if you explained what is " right " in your post, it would hold more creditability instead of saying go and reroll another class. Because the way you put it hold nothing good in discussion.

Fact is many people are struggling in PVP with revenant against similarly skilled people with condi builds .

I didn’t played enough of pvp yet to know if revenant have place in high level pvp play or not. The condition weakness while it might be weakness of class might decide if revenant will see high level play or not.

I am not commenting on pvp balance yet because I didn’t played enough but from what I seen is people asking for more condi cleanse or for guide on how to deal with it and people like you just say " reroll " which doesn’t give much confidence in class at all.

I have to agree, I am not against the nerfs but at the moment this class have way too many bugs and it’s sad to see patch notes already nerfing skills without doing even basic bug fix and there’s at least one bug with every legend…

not to mention the mess that’s underwater combat… at least default rev to automatically go into shiro/mallyx when entering water otherwise it just feels like alpha character.

I still think it’s wayyyyy to early to comment on balance however nerfing atm isn’t way to go when I still feel that 3 out of 5 legends are not on par and I don’t see reason to play them when other classes offer everything they do just way better, less clunkier and more importantly almost bug free without having to worry that their skill will go on CD, eat half of the energy and bugs out and do nothing …

papryk.6273:

Jrunyon.3012:

I used 3 of the minipets from the boxes and 50 wad of stuffing

I love it! So cute!

is the mini account bound or you can sell him once it’s forged?

account bound

Blackwolfe.5649:

Sythus.2396:

Doubt it’s hurting them that much, given that it’s been a month now and we’ve got no response whatsoever I’m willing to believe lots of people still give them real life money.. What a shame, with every passing day I’m becoming dissatisfied with all of this. I even consider starting to play WoW again. (yeah I said it) :/

Not only them, but also goldsellers. And since its not uncommon for goldsellers to have earned their gold through hacking/stealing accounts.. well..

Arenanet, are you aware that you are indirectly promoting account hacks/thefts/botting?

I must post 1 just 1 more thing.
Anet did very good with bots / account hacks or even account / gold sellers …
I just looked over black market and gw 2 accounts are totally worthless
people are selling GW 2 accounts from 10 to 100 euro
those 100 euro accounts include all bank and bag upgrades with full exo and at least 2x lvl 80

that means people are selling gw 2 accounts like hot cakes (lots of people leaving and trying to get at least few $ back)
just GW 1 with 50/50 hom was going for 300 – 500 $ only few days before release

in my opinion low selling like this show quality of game …

I do not support botting / selling golds / accounts this numbers are just pure observation of current market I will not provide any links or anything at all. ^^

gilosean> yes their are … when people are sick of game and can’t get refund they will sell their accounts if they got chance …
in mmo this is common as selling used console games this is also one of the reasons why blizzard is using battlenet and real ID to link all of your games together so you can’t sell wow or diablo account without loosing all your games and other person playing on your name.

please be sure that these are not those gold site you see spamming in LA but community forums where at least half of people are new or old players that want already account without grinding or want to sell account because they are bored with game. but as you said they are many hackers and botters too.

So I got infracted and my post was deleted in other topic because I said

“that anet is doing stealth nerfs not stated in patch notes such as jump (fixed) and world drop nerf”

with moderator note: Making posts containing false or misleading information is couterproductive to good posting practices and is against our Code of Conduct. Please refrain from posting falsehoods on this forum.

yeah right that’s why we have 20 paged long topic here …

I am so kittening sad that I spent so much money on this game and now seeing it’s go same way as SWTOR.

hey OP ask yourself simple thing …

do you like the skin of legendary and reskin of some abilities?

if yes is it worth farming same stuff for 500 + hours + spending 100 – 400 g on precursor?
if yes then do it if no then wait for ascended weapons
but the way this game is heading that will be at least 400 hours grind too >.>

edit: also I would also like you to know that obtaining legendary on this game is not achievement or accomplishment probably even monkey could grind legendary if you feed it enough bananas. and with exploits and daddy’s credit cards there is no legendary in it … except legendary grind.

if they introduce some scavenge hunt then it might become legendary

dragon’s loot been nerfed too so it counts …
just saying

my opinion on bots is this >
make gathering nodes random that would get rid of 99% gathering bots

from my boting experience in other games it worked like you downloaded map with marked nod spawns and your characters automatically visited those

if they are randomly generated respawning every few hours(to get rid of some stuck nodes in walls or so) on different place that would get rid of these …

for mindless killing bots I see 2 problems
1) AI in this game is so dumb that is just asking for botting with ranger/bear or heavy class you do not need dodge 99% mobs even wow in newer expansions got better AI

2)grouping …
yes there are too many npcs but apart from each other they should be in groups ..

that would fix players complaining about too much mobs in one place so they could move more freely
combined with AI that actually do something that would fix a lot …

(yes I botted lot everyone who did not on that game was fool because you had no chance to farm because veins were global and on every node you could see at least 15 bots farming it every time)

CreativeAnarchy.6324:

Who kittenen cares.

Anet / ncsosft money department should

and that means all of you fanboys too …
you know less money less content even less bug fixes?

It’s not bug guys it’s feature to stop bots!

It’s actually even more fun watching new people that join this game on chat wondering why is whole world contested (mostly orr) and they can’t find players except in lower end areas while everyone is in fractals not even for ascended gear but just for loot.

NetherDiver.6079:

Riel.2160:

it’s actually fun how all of you just /lol all at him when he is right about bugs and dungeons

same happened with swtor year back … everyone who posted complain got dismissed by fanboys and then look swtor is pay 2 win game right now!

I’m not sure swtor failed ONLY because of buggy dungeons. It had plenty of things that made it a sub par MMO.

I did not say ONLY ! point still stands fanboys here dismiss even most constructive feedback (not that this is one of them but) anet refuse to communicate even on largest topics here and I know that everyone who got game with me already stopped playing and I even log casually

now you may think so what? you already paid and that is not true many of us were spending 20 to 50 euro monthly on gems and if Anet will do nothing about current situation more people are going to leave that are going to buy game …

for me there is only 1 gamebreaking bug that anet refuse to acknowledge
but what I gather here or in game its all those small things that adds up …

it’s actually fun how all of you just /lol all at him when he is right about bugs and dungeons

same happened with swtor year back … everyone who posted complain got dismissed by fanboys and then look swtor is pay 2 win game right now!

end game of this game is all about kittening skins(and now about ascended) doesn’t matter that this is only town hat but it’s still skin so this should be available to everyone.

you can say that this is same as if wow was giving away end game best in slot items.
as wow focuses on stats and gw on skins ….

put it in gemstore for 200 gems but do not make it exclusive …

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Change-in-loot-parameters-or-a-bug-Merged/first

Welcome to the club …

Ares yes that is how should they work …

but they are scam both GOTY VGA Awards and major pc gaming reviews site like IGN or PC GAMER … google kane and lynch fiasco that’s how today gaming industry works

problem is that people are too dumb to do research on what is good game and what is not and most believe these awards and ratings

I am not really even sure who the hell cares about VGA …
their nominations and awards are bad …

there is no such thing as GOTY for past what 5 years? every publisher is calling their games GOTY
those awards same as ratings are bullkitten made by AAA publishers to get more money simple as that.

I know that this is joke
but I hope you do realize that there is difference between all negativity and constructive feedback …

Look at Star Wars old republic If somebody posted feedback and how to improve game he was called negative troll and was dismissed by fans and devs.

look at swtor today most expensive game in history probably flopped in less than year and now you buy best in slot item with real money in that game.

nope. All stats are same compared to any other exotic shield.
gw2db stats are wrong. and I think they already include ascended stats on them

for example >
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_Flameseeker_Prophecies
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Guardian_of_the_Six

It’s should be same as every exotic in game.
When ascended shields / weapons are introduced to the game flameseeker will be scaled to same stats as the ascended weaponry.

tigirius.9014:

So I got two drops from vets since the last patch and then nothing. I got one blue yesterday. What in the world is going on over there in HQ? really. I don’t get it. At no time should there ever be anything below a green from a vet and certainly not from a champion. Do you others agree on this? And Why aren’t there any fixes to chests exactly why can’t they be affected by mf? it seems more and more each day that they really do want us to spend all our money on gold. That’s pay 2 win and not very honest.

I put on my thief’s suit again to see if the drops would improve, they didn’t they dropped down to blues only meanwhile the level 37 ranger is getting 50% greens with not a drop of MF on him.

So not only has there been no MF fix it seems that max level characters are being penalized for being max level.

but the problem is that this game is not even pay 2 win because lets face it
every end game “better” item need huge grind of course you can shorten that with gems but for example look at volcanus or any other better exotic or ascended gear now look at the price of gems stuff like that would cost you over at least 200$ to craft …

Right now I can’t see to what direction is Anet heading because only fools will drop 200$ or more for 1 item so clearly they can’t be going pay 2 win route however with this nerf to drops every grind in this game (that was already huge in current standard) got at least 5x bigger… which is going to result in loss of most casual players who levelled 1 or 2 chars and wanted to look shiny and at the same time they will lose hardcore players because they are much better progress or grindy games with better rewards and more content.

Only thing Anet can do is restore drop rates before newer players who will get game on Christmas reach 80 and quit because they can’t even make crafted set.
Right now game is still advertised as non grind game but if you look at it every at least little unique item at lvl 80 it takes weeks or luck to get it…

And if they don’t stay with League of Legends gem store model this game will be dead within 6 months

I already quit and I know 5 more people that quit because of this so called bug but before that I logged today and looked at trading post prices /facepalm and logged off

I wanted to spent another 50euro right after lost shores went up .. well those 50e just went to steam and league of legends …

since this topic is up for 2 weeks I would at least expect reply on such major bug
the lack of communication on Anet part is completely unprofessional and I am thinking that this is intended and not bug if they can’t even hotfix it after 2 weeks.

and if this is intended then pardon me but I hope GW2 will flop same way as swtor …
for me personally this will be last mmo that I spent money on …
I tried almost every mmo that came out in past 3 years its seems like they do not care about longevity but only for quick cash grab

while I was happy seeing Anet patching game on almost weekly basis
this is something that is game breaking issue for me
and its not even adressed after this topic and many topics in general / bug section or 150 comment topic on reddit …

I would rather pay 20$ or so sub fee to play and not deal with this pay 2 win or fractal grind bullkitten

I am not saying that fractals are bad I am really fine with them my problem is this is becoming same crap as WoW everyone is in 1 hub (major city) in this case LA and spamming lf fractals while leaving outside world to dead because of inferior drops
I don’t understand why developers create such a big world and then abandon it for 1 dungeon …

I would not quit if Anet at least admitted it saying something like …
“yes we are aware of this bug that is ruining your playing experience and we are working on it but fix will be on the next major patch as this requires major overhaul of our loot tables "
but keep silence … it’s best thing to do if you want to lose players …

tigirius.9014:

So now it’s officially reached an impass.

Tonight I went around gathering mats for making a pistol I wanted. I got some of the mats but alas it wasn’t enough to build both items. I get back to LA after a farm run (of just nodes mind you) and I find that it would actually cost twice as much for the mats then it would for me to outright buy the item I Already Have The Knowledge to make myself. Yeah that’s right. It’s easier just to buy the already made item, then to get the few things that never seem to drop ever from mobs.

The item? Cleric’s Pearl Handcannon. No really go check. 5 powerful totems 27s each 5 globs of ectoplasm 34 silver each 5 dowels (master) 25 silver each it came out to be 4.25 gold to make the pistol. Guess how much the actual pistol cost me. 3 gold.

This is starting to get out of control. really it is. If it’s left alone like this, let me ask you, what’s the point of crafting? hmm?

Update: Just got thru with their maintenance, and a tiny patch that forced a restart. I went back into the game in Orr. Fought four veterans. Two dropped blues and to my surprised two others actually dropped rares. It’s going to take way more testing but I am hopeful this is the start of the fix we’ve been waiting for. Oh had no MF on at the time.

What are the experiences of the rest of you after these patches?

can you or anyone else confirm? is it fixed or it was just pure luck?
I did not login for past week because of this bug and unless this is fixed I have 0 reason to…

I was really happy with lost shores patch notes

as collector I really like collecting minis but there’s been only 2 way to do that gem store or trading post then anet introduced karka minis from drops I was thinking this was really good move

same with buffed drops from veterans and champions because everyone just skip them or run behind them opening their chest and running away… but it’s just not working …

as I said before I cancelled 50euro worth of gems and did not play for past 3 days
I have 8 characters all of them need equip unfortunately when I get 1 rare per 12 hours of play then its not worth my time and this is whole definition of grind

Same with dyes when I got my first character to lvl 80 (before dyes where bugged)
I used to get 1 to 6 in one day …
In past week I got 60 levels on alts another 10 on my lvl 80 via exploring and got only 3 …

it’s amazing how fast can anet fix(overnerf) dyes but ignore this for 2 weeks

Maybe if we forward our findings to some major youtube reviewers or review sites and someone pick this and create article that GW2 has changed to grind or pay 2 win maybe they will wake up after they lose many potential customers …
or maybe they are already planing fix for this ala nerfing fractals to be same as open world so no one can complain about them ….

Tyu actually this topic is about both
both are related and both does not work as intended

cancer > before this patch dyes where bugged and had increased % drop chance
but I am thinking that they nerfed it too much because before I got at least 1 or 2 in 5 hours of play now I am getting 1 every 3rd day or so

maybe someone should post this on reddit too

if you look at general forum you will see lots of people creating magic find bug topics that are related to this too

again this stealth nerf will not hurt anyone who already got legendaries (legit way or not) and who got exotics they wanted. But for new players and fresh lvl 80 its nightmare to gear character outside of dungeons now …
this will create same situation as in World of Warcraft where are people are in major city pressing magic button to get to dungeons while leaving world completely deserted

Mirta.5029:

Riel.2160:

I somehow agree achievements are mostly fine
but I disagree with endless salvage and daily monthly sorry they are not achievements just forced grind

achievements should be what you achieve lets say you finished clock tower that is achievement but not daily / monthly that is just point grind …

daily/ monthly is good for karma. If there was not a single repeatable achievement after getting full map completion getting karma would become hard if you don’t feel like running dungeons, therefore it only makes sense that that is there, especially when monthly has more than one criteria that you have to meet.

yes then reward should be only karma + mystic coin and not achievements points …

I somehow agree achievements are mostly fine
but I disagree with endless salvage and daily monthly sorry they are not achievements just forced grind

achievements should be what you achieve lets say you finished clock tower that is achievement but not daily / monthly that is just point grind …

khefka.2804:

wildcode.5403:

khefka.2804:

I wouldn’t be surprised if it was just a placebo. Until I see conclusive tests it’s no different than the Easter bunny to me, even then I wouldn’t give a kitten on getting any.

Let me point you to this post https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Magic-find-is-not-working/725964

So it is a placebo? Either way nothing about that seems very conclusive.

no one knows there is too much RNG and to know precisely we would need large group of players to do test with then without magic find and compare it to results before lost shores patch to be sure …

nobody knows how magic find works now (and yes I said now even on that post)if its bugged or not!
some people actually think that if you have Low magic find it’s actually decrease loot

if you can’t prove them wrong that wiki link is invalid

I can give you another example why wiki is invalid

patch notes on wiki clearly states this
“every champion should be guaranteed to drop loot”
I killed 3 yesterday one dropped silver other 2 nothing.
so you can clearly see that wiki only states how should it work and not how it’s really works

Hey wildcode I also want to point one more thing
this is from official lost shores patch notes on wiki

“The drop rarity of Rare and Exotic weapons from certain places in the world (champions, veterans, and players in WvW) has been increased. Rares and Exotics should be much more likely to drop and every champion should be guaranteed to drop loot. This was to ensure that world loot drops were not a significantly worse way of acquiring rare and exotic items than crafting and running dungeons.”

just yesterday I killed 3 champions 1 dropped 1 silver other 2 dropped nothing and btw I soloed 2 and last one I got help from 1 person
It is clear that at least this part is not working as intended !

Varonth.5830:

Riel.2160:

Shaylani.3974:

You do know magic find only works on mob drops right? It doesn’t affect what you get out of chests in any way.

~S

actually no one know how it works right now because stealth nerfs and no information provided on anet part and some people actually believe that if you have magic find it actually decrease chance from everything as it stands right now …

As for me personally I am waiting for dev reply on this

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Magic_Find

that link is invalid refer to my 1st post here and look at all those people that farm outside of fractals saying something is wrong with magic find ….

thing is more and more people come to those 2 topics everyday
you or me or anyone else outside of Anet can’t prove that they are wrong or right.

that’s why I am waiting on official reply for both magic find bug and drop rate decrease outside of dungeons.

please remember how buggy this game is … wiki contain info how should it work not how it works …

Phaneo stop going off topic
this is not topic for do we like luck or not but for pure % decrease in drop and devs must see that not some QQ about luck

Shaylani.3974:

You do know magic find only works on mob drops right? It doesn’t affect what you get out of chests in any way.

~S

actually no one know how it works right now because stealth nerfs and no information provided on anet part and some people actually believe that if you have magic find it actually decrease chance from everything as it stands right now …

As for me personally I am waiting for dev reply on this

hey
here are 2 topics that are related to this

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Change-in-loot-parameters-or-a-bug-Merged/first
and
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Loot-Drop-Rate-Bug/first

there is post somewhere there explaining that magic find works only at 250 right now based on some testing. according to most posts there people get better drop rates without MF that with it

in my case I killed claw and shatterer few times over weekend and only times I got rare was without MF but that is only from small number of kills about 15 or so …

Hermes.7014:

Penguin.9482:

Honestly even if they returned drop rates back to “normal,” they would still be pretty bad. GW2 drops and loot in general has been the worst I have ever seen in a game.

Well, no that’s a bit exaggerate. If you played Lineage 2 pre-GoD you’d know that there’s a much deeper level in the hell of grinding.

Thing is in 5 or 10 years ago mmo were based on grind …

I played L2 (since release) and many others like that
you spent month farming 1 item and you were happy about that

Today kids call grind everything they just want to log in and have same items as guy who spent 1000 hours on that game.
WoW did this with removing pre quests and introducing badges for lower tiers …

that was little off topic

problem with GW2 is that this game is advertised as non grind game
and when I get 1 rare per 12 hours of play at max lvl then yes its grind when I need what 30 ecto? for exotic crafted set?
this will not hurt that much hardcore players who will move to fractals but its hurting everyone who is playing casually
and this makes it harder for newer players who just got to 80. Orr is deserted everyone is in fractals of course requiring exotic gear to enter …

as for me personally I have no interest in doing remaining world completion or even levelling alts when only upgrade I can get is from karma and no drops at all

If we get confirmation that this is not bug but all drops were moved to fractals then I am leaving this game for good as they are much more better grind games if I wanted one
also I cancelled my 50euro worth of gems until this is resolved ….

Nuka Cola.8520:

^lol you can’t make money by doing something called playing the game? anyways if this isn’t a glitch and dungeon reward (not fotm) is THAT bad then i don’t know why the 8 dungeons are even in the game… delete them all and add one fractal lol one fractal>all 8 dungeons combined.

Anet said that they are reworking all other dungeons what that mean I am not sure

but there’s been no official reply to this
and I refuse to play this game like diablo 3 playing for 1200 hours hoping to hit jackpot with 1 item that I can sell for few millions on AH to afford my gear

I am pretty sure its a bug …
otherwise this is complete bullkitten playing for 12 hours day and getting 1 rare or 2 rares if I am lucky with or without magic find actually without is better

even dyes are nerfed too much they went for 3s before high drop bug now they go for 15s

It’s not even worth doing 100% on my characters because nothing drops at all only map rewards are good …

I can’t afford trait books that I could on my main where I salvaged everything and sold only junks now I sell everything and I am still short of money …

in lost shores patch notes we been told that they increased drop from champions and vets but they most likely excluded one 0 in drop rates or something and nerfed all drops.

I wanted to buy 50euro worth of gems but that will not happen until this is confirmed as bug

if this is new normal then I have no reason to play and that is coming from someone who got all GW1 CE GW2 CE and spent another 100 euro on gems …

you got precursor and complain?

I hope you do realize that what maybe 20% maybe 10% got precursors?
for me I got kitten neck and rare hammer and did not complain …

krs.7520:

3 computers here, 2 real and 1 laptop.

The two stationary computers never dropped under 40fps, no lag, d/c nothing.
The laptop had 5fps and got d/c three times, didnt see mobs spawning, couldnt use skills.

Yes, there might be a chance our computers are to crap to play large gatherings, is that news to us?

for many people yes they have wireless connection with poor connection and 6 year old laptop that barely meets minimum and then they complain about how horrible this whole things is

I have been very lucky as we did it without DC or lags and I agree that Anet servers are not best or even that maintenance fail

but I really wonder how many people got legit complains about lags

because many people do not know difference between latency and FPS and complain how everything was laggy yet they got 5 fps

again I know there been lots of issues server side but I bet that at least 35% of those complains are from people who have no knowledge of PC and blame Anet even if they PC reset from overheat…

I agree in map chat people were complaining about how they can’t move or see mobs etc

FPS (frames per second) = your PC problem
Lag / latency / DC = mostly Anet fault however there are some rare cases that your connection is at fault

Ixal > can’t even read
uproller > 3 years old cpu / gpu can handle it just fine on low without shadows or AA with at least 30 fps

for example
i5 2500 + nvidia 570 both are about 2 years old were able handle event on 60 FPS …

Owningtheair.8493:

Unfortunately this is pretty much MMO standard. Things are put into the game for the hard working, determined, fortunate and privelidged. And then at some random moment whenever the developer feels like it, those items either become obsolete or a huge amount more common making you wonder why you spent the time trying

I agree pretty much WoW in nutshell

we have new zone …. maybe they add something there or at least some part of lore

Calmwinds.4753:

these one time events have to STOP! I seriously don’t mind paying $15 a month anymore as long as we get treated like how WoW treats its customers. WoW has topnotch customer service.

in my 7 experience of WoW 2 years of SC 2 and half year of D3
I can clearly say they customer service for at least past 4 years sucks kitten …
before that they were awesome not so much now …

Rekuja.6318:

I should actually correct myself, we DO pay more than American players.. a lot more actually :\

I think every other country pays more than America … : /

FleaKill.4108:

Riel, they killed it at the boss for most people.

I wholeheartedly agree with Rekuja. I paid $50 more than the US for my collector’s edition. I figured I’d sunk 700 hours into Guild Wars 1, and Anet deserved my money for such an expensive item.

However now I see how little Anet actually considers, or cares about, those not within reasonable bounds of the PST timezone. The Halloween event had a one time event that little bearing on anything, and that was good. But giving PST players precursors and 20 slot bags and leaving those outside of it with nothing but a ruined economy is cold.

fair point
what about that anet post where they said that they are looking for way to compensate players that got DC?

People complained that precursors prices where too high and too random now they flood market with few pre
prices went down a little and so everyone is complaining once again

and this is how world works you will never be able to please everyone
(and no I did not get pre only pure kitten that went into 2 ecto)

umm did not this event last for like 11 hours?

Adriolan.8126:

Riel.2160:

you paid for core game … not for updates. Most AAA games released today get 1 bug fix patch and it ends there for everything else you must pay.

At the rate Anet is patching its major bugs it’ll be a year before this game is in good shape.

that migh be true my friend they rushed release

but lets not forget they keep patching game very fast …
show me some other online b2p or even pay 2 play game that patch this fast …

btw league of legends does not count its much smaller game and much less work than this …

Leo.6817:

Problem is they -were- handed out like candy in this event, the drop rate was as high as 25% at least, whereas in the rest of the world, and even in Zommoros MF, its as low as 1% if not lower, that’s my point, its not like 5 people out of 100 got precursors, more like 45-50 did, that’s what leaves a bitter taste, you did not have to be ‘lucky’ to get a precursor in the event, you were simply ‘unlucky’ if you didnt, which is a terrible and poorly thought out system to give players items and wealth that take months and months to acquire in normal game circumstances.

show me proof …
show me screenshot that from group of maybe 50 players got 25 precursors because I did not see that then I will believe you …

Zen.2450:

Riel.2160:

actually yesterday our overflow were really badly scaled we wiped for about 2 hours

but in the end reward was nice ( no pre) new zone looks good and most importantly its free

I did not have any lag not even disconnect only slight fps issues but that is my pc fault
overall event was worth

did I mention that this was free update?? Not sure why whining about it they could make it part of next expansion half year from here or ask 20$ for lost shores DLC…

It’s not kitten free you fool, you paid for it, $60 = $20 per month now. December it will have been $15 per month, and they claim to have the first expansion ready for Christmas, so yeah…. You’re paying as much as a sub, just in one lump sum.

Wish kitten idiots would stop bringing up that stupid free argument, it isn’t.

you paid for core game … not for updates. Most AAA games released today get 1 bug fix patch and it ends there for everything else you must pay. Or is this first game you played?