Guild Wars 2

bah, not a great move but guess they don’t like to clean up threads, and this comes to no real surprise, they infracted ppl for breathing, but instead of promoting a better discussion let’s just shut it down, its always the best policy.

However, closing and INFRACTING anyone starting a thread in the new year about a match up is a draconian move, like some of the other Anet community care solutions.

PvE (whats that?): Phantasm I guess.
WvW: Hybrid and Shatter are what I dabble most lately
PvP: Condi or Hybrid.

ezd.6359:

I want an option to play. I tired to play in one build, i want something another. But it is almost impossible to kill experienced players using other builds.

I haven’t consistently played shatter for over 6 months, and don’t have issues killing people. In fact win my fair share of duels (you know, from ppl actually looking for a 1v1, normally fairly experienced players) – my only thorn in the backside are well played condition necros. May be necro OP or my wrong approach fighting them, but since against any other class and build I can have fun fighting them I feel our build options are actually great.

If your concern is that mesmers ‘weakness’ is how we go down to conditions, fair enough, I feel the pain! Every class can complain of its nemesis, but with dec 10 patch menders becomes 100% better, so it does open more options

There is a online creator (even though says its incomplete):
http://botoruimperium.com/emblemCreator

Edit: wiki says this emblem is available…
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/File:Guild_emblem_101.png

So here is my entry:

I think would have made a better reading you guys arguing and dramatise what’s the WORST server.

Took imbued diversion exactly to fit that supportive/vulnerability stack – daze 5 opponents and inflict at least 6 (x5 enemies) if not more stacks of vulnerability (chance to interrupt up to 5 ppl) rather than illusionary persona. This coupled with winds of chaos double bounce and chaos storm, should be plenty of vulnerability to share around.

Also daze is not to be overlooked – with clones at different ranges from target multiple daze (x5) can be chained from every shattering clones arriving to destination.

To be fair the this trait is the main reason I’m asking, to see if if other people have tested this and compared to illusionary persona in a shatter build.

Hi,

Trying to create a shatter build for use in WvW when running 10-15 ppl group.

Idea is to stack some aoe vulnerabilty (for my team to take profit) and mix my condition damage from extra bounces of staff and sharper images with mind wrack. Still in concept and would like feedback, specially since all shatter builds take illusionary persona.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQNAsdWlwzipHVTsGa9ICqHgX2xdkU0awWJF82FC-jUDBYLCiUEgkFQkIA5QFRjtMsIasabYqTo6TI6XQaYwqYA+DJVGA/xA-w

There, tear it apart

Edit: Just found Windwalker’s lockdown build, which is similar to my initial idea. May even move more towards that with Halting Strike instead of Rending Shatter.

I think a ‘perfect’ fit would be hybrid builds. However, the speed boost is good for any build!

I run them on power-phantasm build ( +30 power +30 prec +6% crit dam ), hybrid and still find them best in a blackwater/PU condi build ( +30 prec +30 cond +cond duration +boon duration ) – helps me to push condition duration to 70% and boon to 45% – that extra second regen/protection on stealths skills aren’t bad aren’t they!

And if solo roaming, no matter the build, speed is crutial.

Qaelyn.7612:

I ran with mantras all the time while leveling. The problem with them in PvP (of any type) is that they take too long to charge, and during that time I can’t do anything else except move. Am I using them incorrectly?

You can use any instant skill while channeling the mantra – like activating other mantra charges, shatters, phase retreat, chaos armour, prestige…

Taking this idea, yesterday tried 20/20/30 (to get CD reduction in GS) and took arcane thievery for my condition cleanser (since taking manipulation trait) – with traveller runes, sitting at 70% condition duration, and 45% boon duration. Seemed to work OK, though need practise after spending time with torch, missing prestige in a PU build.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQNAsaRlwzipXTzoGb9IipHEnvBckUoapWJF42FC-jEDBYLCiUEgkIBKHqIaslhFRjVbDTdCVfCR/CSDDWFDwfIpSBAzYA-w

Once I can afford, will get 2 berserkers amulets.

The thing is, lets say the put 25% in a mesmer signet… I would still run with my traveler set, as I prefer to free up a slot for another utility skill and keep the speed in the runes. 60g may sound a lot – and did hurt my pocket – but was real worth it.

I’m not saying wouldn’t be great to have speed (lets say for now in…) the signet, could free up to have more builds/set with different runes and keep the speed – but I have even friend thiefs trying traveler’s out so they don’t use signet.

Love arcane thievery – shame CD is so kitten long. Around 30s would feel right.

I have run with this build in WvW with a small 4-7 ppl group with great success (or should I say just fun?). It allows me to switch to GS – Sw/P if I want to solo (though is not as strong as the blackwater if you face 1v2)

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQJAWRlwzipHVTsGbNJi5D92ZGQHzRqgqVSBudhA-jkDBYLBiiAisAI5BK7RYNBKhlhFRjVbDTdCVfCR/CSDDWFDwfIpyAwMGA-w

Hexxen.7216:

I am use PU for the regen in my build so I am not unbiased but taking away the regen takes away a very strong counter to conditions that you have on you while you. Really for anything the regen will help with conditions and swiftness won’t really, at least with the ones that are already on you.

Yes, swiftness some how; hellz to the no giving it to PU.

Ditto.

Though with access to blink / some control from weapon sets / and traveller runes the only one I have issues stopping them from running away is the warrior, and only if I used badly my cards.

Another way to get swiftness aside from random chaos storm & curtain (which doesn’t stack, top job!) would be helpful, but not at the expense of adding more randomness to PU.

I followed this thread for quite a while. Guess just will tag for reference :P

Most of my Mesmer life played a shatter build (will give ownership to osi), a 10/20/15/25/0 phantasm build (dunno to who give ownership since haven’t found a post), and lately a PU build (say it belongs to blackwater build) – got late to the PU wagon, and looking at this build with interest – just a question – with chaotic transference buffed (plus yay to Mender’s) – going knights/cavalier for 2 rings is a bad idea?

If I run with Melandru runes, and depending on party composition (swiftness=check, other ways of condition removal=check), I have picked compounding celerity, makes life easier avoiding the angry melee ball.

But that’s also because Vigorous Revelation doesn’t look that appealing to my build if I’m not actually shattering – if I did I think is a great support trait.

Pyroatheist.9031:

Xenn, you’re at maximum guilds.

kitten ! – will drop one tonight!

Edit: Dropped non-used guild now to make space for OMFG

Love it!

IGN: Xenn Mia
Server: Gandara
Role: Scholar
Playtime: after 21:00 GMT normally
I mostly WvW but started to dabble solo arenas sPvP

Traveler’s all the way for me. Run them on my PU gear set (or Blackwater if you wish since kept your main build post in mind) and my phantasm gear set. I only move out from traveler’s when running in a party with access to perma-swiftness. Nothing like full bags uniquely for gear sets.

I used centaur runes with mirror in the past, before traveler’s came out. Surely works, but on a phantasm build where I don’t shatter much, prefer to pick ether feast (and traveler runes are the best!)

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQJAWRlwzipHVTsGaNJi5D92ZGQX0RqgqVSBudhA-jEzAYrARRgILAJPFxsnwaZsIasabM1Jq+Mx6XIVMg/QpWGAmxA-w

This is what I use, not your common phantasm build, has a bit more defence and I truly enjoy it. Still playing with it, and even gone it and changed GS for Scepter/Sword with good results for solo play with more defence (blocks).

If on a small party with access to swiftness, I change runes to melandru (and one berserker armor piece more) and switch to compounding celerity (instead of mender’s purity)

Queues have killed our guild raids. Heck, I had a go at solo join sPvP rather than staying idle in LA

Its been too long to meet again. Let’s have a great week.

VladR.9827:

the forum wars … the most annoying thing of this game but somehow on the field it always looks differently

Ofc in the field always look different – you can’t stop and count them (unless tanking floor).

What I see once and once again is that enemy always has more people than allies. screenshots, videos… never solve anything. Now, this may be due to the fact on how red names shouts much louder at our screen/eyes than green, our that our vision sees a red sea coming in but can not see your allies at your back. All in all probably 90% of opposing number readings made ingame are wrong, and ofc create 90% of arguments.

Just found this little gem – priceless

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/2-vs-1-Server-planned-matchup-Is-this-legal/

Go, go, gadgetoconspiracy

Grievance.9148:

Good luck all hope we will have a fun week

What? Has the drama already started?!

Good luck and have fun.

LampGhost.9658:

Double team is what gandara and abba did all week on deso bl, send their best people there and defend it with their life…

(…snip…)

stats dont lie, border focus:

1 Eternal Battleground 32.3%
2 Desolation – Borderlands 29.2%
3 Abaddon’s Mouth [DE] – Borderlands 20.4%
4 Gandara – Borderlands 18.1%

http://www.gw2score.com/index.php?action=server&id=Desolation

Stats don’t tend to lie, Gandara border focus:

1 Eternal Battleground 36.1%
2 Gandara – Borderlands 30.1%
3 Abaddon’s Mouth [DE] – Borderlands 17.4%
4 Desolation – Borderlands 16.4%

Come on! – Let’s just all agree AM and Deso have been teaming up to avoid the clear Gandara win we had in our hands…

/facepalm

I (as in me) don’t support any double teaming, don’t think it brings any honour to the hard work Gandara has put this week – capable to finish second by its own merit.

I don’t see either anything worth in the deal – it only works in Deso advantage. Sure, I understand deso may want to focus AM, retreat from Gandara and ‘help’ for a AM third place as a strategic move for the whole season and looking at the last match in particular. But don’t understand why Gandarans should be wooed over this idea.

Let Deso play out his strategy, but lets play how we always have done, a clean fight.

Shout to all the roamers out there, despite the lag, had some good fun around the ruins.

Yes, blobaddons have their usual one mass force going around capping things, but its refreshing to see some other AM roamers too – before introduction of ruins I had doubts they existed! Thanks to [CARE] [CS] [EXG] [VK] (even [ADAC] had roamers this days :P ) and many others from both servers – some of them always outnumber us, but hey, its WvW after all.

Weli.4568:

Well this matchup is going to be tough one. Cant wait for friday tho.

Guess not everyone can be pleased…. You are ahead, prob favourite to win this week (and league), you can find ppl to fight against, and is not just a romflstomp.

I guess since singing is not allowed, let’s all go back to the dark negative side of things.

/15 characters of QQ to don’t get infracted.

Silver League

1. Desolation
2. AG
3. AM

Dyno.9467:

Xenn.3809:

Dyno.9467:

considering we were hitting between 200-350’s during that time, then there must of been some cheating, unless there’s 700+ points up for grabs?

There is 695 for grabs. So one server can tick 400, while the other is in high 200 – ofc, at the expense of the poor 3rd server.

never happened check scores, do you lot just make stuff up, your as Piken Square with there mysterious “we only run in guilds” crap

I not making stuff up there are 695 potential points, and potential outcomes how servers get them – I never said it happened! :P

Dyno.9467:

considering we were hitting between 200-350’s during that time, then there must of been some cheating, unless there’s 700+ points up for grabs?

There is 695 for grabs. So one server can tick 400, while the other is in high 200 – ofc, at the expense of the poor 3rd server – which hasn’t happen that much.

Gandara higher ticking points have come at 9pm server time each night, Deso highest at 5am and UW 2am or so – is not only that deso ticks high all night, but that UW caps retakes most before hand which also denies point ticks to Gandara. As Repuran pointed out point wins are made off-peak (WvW has always worked that way, nothing new) which you are strong, making you a good contender for the league win. For that I stopped caring about them long, long ago – to me its about the fights, only way points would make sense if all servers had same coverage, which will never happen nor will change my fun I gain from WvW.

warriorjrd.8695:

So all these people saying that deso is a gold server because we took the lead you held for the start and are now taking back are foolish.
(…)
If gandara win this matchup what will you say then? That we tanked this matchup to?

You attributing words and accusations that haven’t come out from my keyboard. No, I don’t think you belong to gold league with your current force in this match-up. Have you tanked? I can’t answer that, but I’ll take your answer as honest one and we’ll see once league starts. But all this YOU this, YOU that isn’t pretty.

Had a so so week, a couple of nights was difficult to find anything to fight, even roaming solo. Hope once leagues starts tonight all servers involved can have a blast.

Good luck to all and have fun – it’s the only thing that matters. AM can keep the ‘winners’ finisher if they give me a fun match when we meet.

1- Alt friendly acc bound rank system
2- Class balance with WvW in mind
3- Rally system needs attention (1 goes down 3000 rally isn’t right)

warriorjrd.8695:

Xenn.3809:

warriorjrd.8695:

Deso is not the same as we used to be. Months ago when we roflstomped you we had a happy crew called DVG pvdooring us to victory. They were our night/morning crew and it was because of them we were able to sweep the floor with you. However, they left the server….

Aside from quoting Dranul thinking was a Gandaran (would be nice, but no thanks, enjoy fighting TUP when we can) you don’t have some facts right either. You are ahead because of your night crew (may not be called DVG as they left, but at night someone PvDs), you been ticking fancy high number while Europe sleeps, so you still have that force – maybe they where the ones tanking and hiding till you made you secure place in SL.

On primetime is been fun fighting Deso, has lots of good fighters in it – even though some night you went quiet and the amount of tea bagging is the highest I ever seen.

Gandara was winning the matchup for the first half of the week. We’ve had the same players playing the whole, we didn’t “wake” up, it seems instead gandara went to sleep.
You can try and say you have less wvw population because of pve, but deso is the pve capital, if you lost people to pve, we lost more.

Did I say anything about PvE population? Don’t think so… just said that your night crew (as in 3am-5am) is back in business now because is when you make the points… as you well point out while Gandara goes to sleep.

No drama, no moaning, just pointing out how you got in front – and I’m sorry, but you can’t say WE lost or won anything, since this things happen when no people are around to defend, reverse goes for primetime, we have more ppl than you do.

On a final note, I don’t give a kitten about points, but dislike ppl bragging about it when really is out of servers capacities to do anything… its just coverage.

warriorjrd.8695:

Deso is not the same as we used to be. Months ago when we roflstomped you we had a happy crew called DVG pvdooring us to victory. They were our night/morning crew and it was because of them we were able to sweep the floor with you. However, they left the server….

Aside from quoting Dranul thinking was a Gandaran (would be nice, but no thanks, enjoy fighting TUP when we can) you don’t have some facts right either. You are ahead because of your night crew (may not be called DVG as they left, but at night someone PvDs), you been ticking fancy high number while Europe sleeps, so you still have that force – maybe they where the ones tanking and hiding till you made you secure place in SL.

On primetime is been fun fighting Deso, has lots of good fighters in it – even though some night you went quiet and the amount of tea bagging is the highest I ever seen.

Thanks to the [INVI] ele for the chat and fight, was good fun.

Make a tea, log, check guild TS, get oils and get going. (other buffs don’t concern me cause I don’t have them with 4 alts and a family).

Sometimes I even remember to repair armor before noticing half way through the night is broken.

How about remove all the PvE world for some open PvP world?

No? Don’t understand…

Well, don’t bring (even more) PvE into PvP either.

+1 to OP. Good post. The drop that spilled the cup

Chopps.5047:

Btw, knickers aren’t in a twist. They’re folded neatly. However, my panties are in a bunch. Mind helping me with that?

Sure, go commando from now on.

I think you getting your knickers in a twist, because most complains are about bloodlust and lag – and those two where never asked to be introduced – from what I read, new area seems to please people quiet well – its the buff the issue.

Basedgod.7328:

getting stomped with an Outmanned buff should not award bloodlust points to the team that stomped you.

+1

While some improvements have been done since release, I think the game was better at release than it is now (WvW wise) – got better with orb removed and solving culling… however, the multiple buffs / power creep than they bring is slowly killing it for me (plus the lag all this seems to bring, since it gets worse every patch).

If stopping playing made any difference to the devs, I would take a holiday from it, but WvW will always have a fresh influx of PvE players – so as long as PvE is healthy, WvW will be populated – no matter how unbalanced, badly thought and silly it may become.

Still enjoying the game, so will play it – but not sure for how long looking the direction of it (and at release I thought I will have game for years with their philosophy advertising and such…)

Lag was at worse last night. For being kitten disappointed with Anet increasing ‘power creep’ or however you want to call it – I still like it and will play the game (for now)

However, lag last night made me log off, no point staying in if one can not ‘play’. Skills went from firing 5 sec later (at best) to not firing at all. Guilds mates where teleporting back and forth all along. Going down from 100% with noone around, cause server had to catch up what the hell happened to my toon… just horrible.

Different week so far, dunno if funny at all times but had several Benny Hill moments where a whole zerg hunts you forever – until you’re dead, they stretch or give up and the remain hunters become hunted.

Some good fights with smaller groups too, specially south area deso BL – from both servers.

TDA never had the numbers this week to give a good go at all groups, so resorted to teasing for pulls or as mentioned ‘ganking’ the tail – though not sure I will call it that way to 5 men trying to pick the sides of the bigger group.

And there is been the laaagg – a issue that gets worse rather than better with every patch.

I don’t really mind the current outnumbered – when I get it, I know I’m going on a death wish trip, but it doesn’t cost me any repairs and will get me more from the ones I manage to get down.

Swapping bloodlust – outnumbered? nah – I hate bloodlust in the 1st place, so will be hypocritical of me to want it when it suits me.

Could it be better? yeah, always – and quite like the +5 supply idea – the times a small team can’t build more than 1 ram to try and reclaim something are countless – with only 1 ram up, the zerg has time to respond and thwart your effort :P

Aneu.1748:

lordkrall.7241:

So basically making a buff that is not a buff but rather an icon that no one will ever bother to take?

The stat-buff is a rather good reason for people to make sure to take the buff and/or make sure the enemy doesn’t. Which in turn will also break up zergs and that is a good thing.

Stop being so naive to believe it will break up zergs… It wont.

I do think it will break zergs to some extend, though has to be seen – you could have the zerg defending the buff and from there move to defend areas – maps are small. Needs to be seen how ppl will use this areas.

However, I still feel it will play in the hands of the bigger populated server creating further imbalance with the bloodlust buff.

I think I will really like the new zone, its a good move by Anet to make points per stomp, just don’t like the stat increase.

Treborlavok.3504:

Kalan.9705:

Wins should be on skill not stat imbalance & grind time, so yes any measures that point wvw towards a skill not grind basis are good.

Exactly

Honestly it would be nice if we could keep our armor and weapon skins from pve in both pvp and wvw. Just when you enter either wvw or pvp, you have to choose your stats on your armor/weps your already wearing.

Grinders that got the skins are still happy, out everyone at an equal stat playing field at the cost of nothing but changing your armors stats.

This – but sPvP needs a relook – all stats in amulets is kitten. Allow to distribute stats as one wishes, for greater customisation, allow food/oils and all runes/sigils for greater diversity.

Same playing field for all, great diversity, no grind, just PvP fun for all.

I have a consistent opinion to Guard Leech, Applied Fortitude, Bloodlust and Ascended gear. PvP does not improve because of stat imbalance. No to all for me.