Guild Wars 2

lmperdigao.2567:

Not even if it removed food and bloodlust stacks too people would use.

If it removed food people would flip their kitten. It would give people the power to strip a costly consumable. Weapon and guard stacks would be annoying at best but they are not hard to get now.

The only scouting report ever needed:

“INC 1+ That way —>”

Kigera.9584:

Next question? When your Season 2 finale video comes out, what storylines will BG be going for?

“BG vs The Evil Alliance” “The Underdog Story Part 2” “The medal count don’t lie”.

Me and some of my buddies have some bets going on and I’m trying to get a edge on them

I think you’re on to something. I’ll put my vote on “BG vs The Evil 2v1”

Kigera.9584:

Zeke Azul Falcon.5176:

wow spoken like a true JQQ, so tell me again how much did you guys pay for MERC and some other guilds? are those purchases worth it?

Lol, I’m not even in your match-up. I just like trolling BG because they qq at the drop of a hat. So sensitive oh so sensitive, if I asked you when are ZD’s coming back you would probably have a heart attack

I doubt BG would have a issue either way, it was a pleasure having ZDs, great group of people.

On the other hand JQ might have a aneurysm.

Jeknar.6184:

Zeke Azul Falcon.5176:

Bucket Lips.5017:

FA & TC had a good rivalry at one time when we were both in T2. Although we most likely won’t be facing each other for awhile, our hate still runs deep towards them.

well what do you know BG hates TC too. dont worry FA, we will leave some for you.

BG hates TC, because TC is now more SoR than TC.

This isn’t true at all lol. Most of BG doesn’t hate TC, I obviously can’t speak for everyone on the server. Though it will seem that way in matches to come for obvious reasons.

Also a lot of BG hated a lot of guilds and player on SoR but it was a necessary hate. It breaded some of the most intense fights I’ve ever experienced.

The SoR BG rivalry was the best that i was part of. With out SoR, Blackgate would not be the server it is today. SoR had a lot of very good guilds that pushed BGs guild to be better. While there is probably some hate left, there is still a lot of respect for SoR.

exhunter.7528:

After simultaneous attacks from 2 zergs, BG will then camp at JQ spawn spot for hours while allowing SOS to capped garrison and smc in EB.

Wldnt this kind of “team-up” play has much implications to the thousand of wvw players in tier 1 and tier 2? Im worried.

Nah, this “kind of team-up” is nothing new. It’s to hard to take that keep with the green server being able to respawn and suicide into the lords room. One server pushing green spawn makes it easier for the 3rd server to take the keep.

Honestly, this was going to happen to one of the servers.

radiantbliss.6875:

Too busy laughing actually. I’m amused that there really haven’t been many threads popping up with tears, if any. Unlike some other servers who spent the entire week crying about it thread after thread after thread.

Don’t worry, weeks still early. This one can start you off though….

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Server-2V1/first#post3930963

exhunter.7528:

Too much hatred in WvWvW NA Gold league.

First week – BG & TC team up against JQ
Last week – TC & JQ team up against BG
This week – BG & SOS alliance versus JQ.

“First week” Was the first week of seasons so just has a new fun feeling, JQ got 2v1’d because they were deemed the biggest threat.

“Last week” Was absolutely impressive. It was a grand show put on by TC and JQ. The organization of the 2v1 shows how awesome the WvW community can be. Also from BG’s perspective, it was amazing! So much fun.

“This week” It is what it is. There is no alliance. JQ is the only real threat. SoS won’t be able to take first so focusing JQ is the best move. SoS has been hitting BG a lot as well.

There has always been 2v1’s. It’s the way the game is set up but JQ and TC brought it to a new level. Either way, make the best of it. If we found fun last week, I’m sure you can find fun this week.

FearedbytheGods.8617:

Zikory.6871:

You are correct…
https://www.google.com/search?q=numerous+definition&rlz=1C1VEAD_enUS475US475&oq=n&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j69i59j69i60l3j69i59.2688j0j8&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8

Nice Zikory, you linked a definition, doesn’t really change your ‘cause i said so’ post, even you’re losing momentum.

Sorry I assumed you were correcting me, but your were dumbing it down, got it.

But don’t dodge the question, who did you guys pick to win? Am I wrong? Is TC going to tank a bit to give the bestest long standing T1 server the well deserved season 2 win?

FearedbytheGods.8617:

Zikory.6871:

BG won’t win seasons (the goal they have said numerous times)

Many times? rofl.

You are correct…
https://www.google.com/search?q=numerous+definition&rlz=1C1VEAD_enUS475US475&oq=n&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j69i59j69i60l3j69i59.2688j0j8&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8

FearedbytheGods.8617:

JQ/TC to win,

That’s not what a lot of posters on the match up thread have been saying. Though, have you guys decided who gets to place first? I’m going to guess JQ is going to give it to TC in the end.

ZilentNight.5089:

#BGTears

Looks like the threads are now starting to be along the lines of pleading to allow BG to win lol?
How low can BG go?

Oh don’t get worried. In week 5 if TC takes first and pushes JQ to 3rd. BG won’t win seasons (the goal they have said numerous times) and JQ will be pushed out of the running.

If anything I’d happily let TC have all the winnings to 2v1 JQ in week 5 see how your “community” handles it…Though, the normal “give up by Monday” strategy might come into effect.

Omg stop with these threads already. Even my self as a long standing Blackgate member thought these threads were funny but now they are just getting redundant.

If gold leagues only goal is to make sure Blackgate doesn’t win, then all for it. This week has shown, even when facing a no win match, Blackgates guilds are having one of the most fun matches to date. Its been a blessing to disregard PPT and just enjoy endless waves have players to fight.

The key here is don’t get discouraged and just make the best of it. Let it play out, if they succeed in keeping us from winning, Gratz to them, take pride that they saw us as a big enough threat to resort to this level of 2v1 to defeat us. If we win, take pride in the amount of dedication guilds and players on Blackgate had to compete against the 2 strongest servers NA.

Thustlewhumber may be able to speak on this more but I haven’t seen Ascii post here since he was banned from the forums (I don’t know the reason) a long time ago.

As for the build, its still very “viable” in ZvZ. As for better, that would be dependent on your play style and/or group comp. I think right now, with the last patch, people are still working out what the “best” build for necros is.

Epic.3950:

Lalangamena.3694:

zergs will still run power hammer train, single roamers will continue to run condi.
people were not too much into zerker meta in WWW anyway, so i dont understand the outcry on www forums, unless they are annoying backstabbing thieves which is OK.

Zergs dont use zerker. The only people affected by the nerf are hybrid roamers that rely on crits.

Absolutely not true. Zerker was a great damage buffer for almost any power build that met the needed defensive stats. The PVT meta died a long time ago, the nerf hit everyone.

ZilentNight.5089:

#BGtears ah gotta love it =)

All the bandwagon players that decided to stack one server hoping to get #1 again, get ready to take out your wallets and start transferring =D!

I hear JQ might win? Transfer to JQ for the easy win eh?

Best way to counter a Tier 1 2v1 is to have more fun then them, I think most of Blackgates WvW guilds have been very happy with this week.

Also the patch totes made us lose, true story. :p

http://mos.millenium.org/na/matchups/

JQ is the go to server now!

Blackgate has been put back into its rightful underdog position.

Seigfried.5938:

How did JQ get inside TC’s garri to defend it?

Magic, duh. lol

I’m going to go with default key binds. “0” is soooooo far way.

Or this thread that is on the front page, right by yours.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/WvW-transfer-penalty/first#post3884451

Lol you expect some one to answer your question in 7 minutes?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Cant-join-WvW/first

Read this thread and you’ll get your answer.

Otokomae.9356:

lol Zikory – TYPE SLOWER!!!!! I can’t keep up!

LOL, I got yelled at for making walls of text so I’m trying to type less.

I know you want a dev to clear this up for you BUT orange swords have nothing to do with siege. You get orange swords when 25 (iirc) players in close proximity enter combat. Example of this is get your zerg and jump off a cliff high enough to damage your players but not kill them, if 25 or more enter combat around the same time you will get swords at that location.

I’m not really for or against the idea, neutral if you will. I do think it is a interesting idea and new siege would be cool (new traps even).

The one down side or possible complaint I would foresee is scouting for these ladders. People already complain about scouts and needing scouts but this would require more visibility over your objectives. I personally don’t see this as a issue (punishment for not scouting or having scouts) I can see the current population having issue with it as scouting is a considered a “boring” obligation. Just my 2 cents.

Imo, it depends on your build and what you want out of it. If you go 15 into curse for fury on DS and 30 into soul reaping for deathly perception you only need to have 30% base crit. (30% + Fury 20% + Deathly Perception 50% in DS = 100% in DS or 50% when flashing DS) With this setup you won’t need any knights, you can go zerker/cavaliers.

The different option is a build like KarlusDavius (above) proposed. He said going full zerker is good enough but if you need to be a bit more defensive (for what ever reason) knights can fill in and help with the needed crit and toughness. Cavaliers would be fine as well if you are meeting the crit chance needs.

EDIT: Also don’t over do it on either of these gear sets. For a power build it gets all of its damage from mostly crits and crit damage which scales from your power. Both knight and cavaliers has power as the secondary stat so you will be crippling your damage but investing to much into these sets.

So to the OP, your suggestion is to completely revamp the WvW system to remove server identity and create a more “equal playing field”? A couple of questions though since you seem to be so defensive…

What happens if this plan fails? With WvW and Gw2 bleeding players, what happens if this back fires and even more people leave the game? Would a drastic change be worth it?

What happens when say KnT (my guild) queues up with 80 guild members (S2 first resets turn out) and gets put up against and non guilded pug group? What if due to random placement the other “color” doesn’t get some one willing to tag up? Or some one does tag up but is less familiar with the Tier 1 meta that we are going to bring?

Should other guilds from lower tiers be forced (randomly) to fight higher tier guilds? (to clarify, I’m not talking about skill, I’m referring to sheer numbers.) I understand that there is a cap and the system would fill that cap but if a guilded group of 20-25 gets in a match with a guilded group of 50+, would that be fun for every one?

And lastly what makes you think a change like this would be in the best interests of anet? Do you think the time and man power to make such a drastic change would be more profitable for them in the long run? Also do you think it’s enough to keep players in WvW and maybe even bring some back to the game?

Honest questions…

Nick.6972:

If this is what Arena Net wants, why not just make 6 big WvW Servers so all WvWers can just stack them.

Because not everyone wants to play the current Tier 1 / Tier 2 meta. Looking at the recruitment forum, there are still a lot of guilds and players that enjoy the lower tier WvW game play and don’t want to be forced to play the map queue vs map queue play style.

I always hoped for April fools they would randomly turn on friendly fire through out the day.

If you’re referring to me, I admit nothing, I can only speak for my guild and we obviously didn’t spend as much time in WvW as we do now but it was for training and farm guild members ascended gear, along with other activity. KnT was not tanking the scores for any reason.

That said there is no point arguing any more. We both know neither of us will change our point of view on the matter and you can keep up with your propaganda and we will keep up with ours.

And for the thread lock: We will honestly miss you this week. <3 Though SoS looks like fun so far!

jojojoon.8607:

Master Farkha.1857:

Prior to seasons BG was getting their kitten s handed to them every week and they rarely cried 2v1.

I’m not sure if you’re trying to troll or if you’re new to wvw. You do realize BG was trying to tank intentionally months prior to season. Why would they complain about a 2v1 when they pray everyday for a 2v1 against them to ensure they lose big every week to help with their tanking.

At least we didn’t tank the scores during seasons to get a easy win….

On topic tho, 2v1 won’t matter in a match like JQ/Mag/DB, the population differences are to big.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/get-ready-for-wvw-spring-tournament-2014/

Heres one of the announcement posts by anet that might give more info. If your looking for more information on your world I would recommend looking up your servers web site and asking there. Asking about specific servers here will most likely give you very biased opinions.

For a most non sarcastic answer. I don’t believe there are “play offs” The first week matches were determined by your servers rating pre seasons. Then from there matches are based off you placement in each match. 1st place gets 5 points, 2nd 3 points and 3rd gets 1 point. The goal is to have the most points in your league by the end of the season.

As for achievement, this season is much easier to get then last season. I only played about 12 hours between Friday and Sunday and I’m 8 of 10 for the meta and I wasn’t going out of my way to get them. If you play WvW in a semi active time zone you should have no problem meeting the required number of achievements to get the meta. Remember you have 8 more weeks, just have fun and you’ll be fine.

You have 8 more weeks and the goal is to win all the matches.

jojojoon.8607:

The question here is why pick JQ to 2v1 instead of BG.

There was a post on Gw2wvw for a TC post that said there was a “incident” where instead of pushing a 2v1 on BG, JQ hit some TC objectives while TC was attacking BG. So if there is any truth to this is looks like JQ (or the JQ commander involved) made a bad call shifting a possible 2v1 on BG to JQ.

This is almost the same thing that happened in week 1 of season 1. SoR made some bad map politic calls and BG took advantage. Thus taking the lead.

You have been around long enough to know how easy things like this can shift and how commander will change focus depending on who is attacking who. If the above statement (from the TC player) is true, it could have easily been BG on the wrong end of the 2v1 if we would have made a bad call (Map politics wise)

I don’t know how this thread is surviving but to keep to the topic.

OP: like many others have said if your dead set on JQ or Blackgate, your best chance is late at night (server time). While it may fall to “Very High” from time to time, it seems more often in the AM.

If you are a NA player, I would suggest finding a home on a “Teir 2” server. Fort Aspenwood, Maguuma, Dragonbrand, Sea of Sorrows will be quite populated and just as good for learning and starting the game. After seasons populations on the top 3 will drop down a bit and if you’re not happy with your current server you can get in much easier.

Just my 2 cents, good luck on your new server.

Nick.6972:

Shut down servers the moment I stop playing.

Quoting for visibility. When this man logs, the servers turn off. +1

Rizalee.4593:

style.6173:

There are a lot of times where we allow an enemy server to take another enemy’s keep. Why? It is more valuable to get a fully fortified keep reset than to win that particular fight.

That is completely different from what I am talking about, that is just letting the other side do the work, then taking it from them.

I’m taking about the two other servers not attacking each other, and only focusing on one side in the fights. I was online for hours last night, and very rarely saw Camps/Towers switch from BG to JQ or vice verse. They only went from TC to either BG or JQ. Another example from last night was when BG and JQ had two zerges hit North camp. BG attacked until they were nearly wiped, then they pulled out and JQ attacked, when JQ was nearly wiped they pulled out and BG attacked..

Thats the kind of thing that requires communication from outside the game.. IMHO…

It really doesn’t require any communication at all. Most commanders have been playing this game (as well as the T1 meta) for quite some time. I have seen plenty of times where BG and X server are attacking the 3rd server and the commander says over comms “I hope X server doesn’t attack us so we can paper this keep”

It’s about common goals, if all 3 servers are in JQ’s garrison. It would be smart for BG and TC not to attack each other to keep JQ weak. If TC attacked BG, TC would have BG and JQ to deal with, when in the end the only reason they are there is to paper the keep.

The 2v1 is working as intended, just it is a bit different in T1 (maybe T2 as well) then in lower tiers. All 3 T1 servers are power houses, a 2v1 can be pointed at any server and be completely dictated by map politics. 1 bad call on 1 map could change the focus of which server is getting 2v1’d.

Zeke Azul Falcon.5176:

DeWolfe.2174:

BIMBLE.7952:

As you can see this week, we’ve decided to spank you

And, let it be known, the “we’ve” he’s referring to is both TC and BG. For Queue’s on JQ, we only have 15 on one map right now. If you like to play during the time you made this thread, we have plenty of room for you in WvW on JQ.

is this the part where you pull out your 2v1 card out or the stacked server?

Is this a match up thread now?

1. Maguuma
2. Tarnished Coast of Rall
3. Jade Quarry
4. Sea of Sorrows
5. Dragonbrand
6. Badgate

Great video NOC! Season 2 will be a blast!

Liquid.9672:

LOL jojo is still going on with his conspiracy theories about BG. Too funny.

Conspiracy Theories? Its super true, the gods of Blackgate waited for jojojoon to post his theories before formulating a battle plan. We all know Master theorists Jojojojojoon would come up with a plan so diabolical that making it fact would be the only option. The only flaw was we were not able to talk the NPCs into taking the week off as well.

Sadly I never knew him personally but he was a big part of what made the rivalry with IRON so much fun. His passion brought a exciting and priceless gaming experience for so many people, we were lucky to have been part of it.

My deepest condolences and our prayers go out to him, his family, and his friends. Rest in Peace.

I fully agree with the OP. As some one that regularly makes siege, its a unnecessary time sink.

@Viking Jorun I know this doesn’t fix your problem but if you are a regular commander and have a decent following, remember to ask for siege and skill point donations. You would be surprised how many people are willing to “tip” for your time with siege.

Tsuki.4013:

Tho i wonder how will this change affect a WvW power necro?

I don’t think it will change for raiding/large scale fights. It won’t make condi builds more viable so power will still be the most effective. Roaming though, power builds already have a low room for error so the loss of damage will make it even harder. I think it will only make it harder for less skilled necros and even harder in 1vX fights which is already difficult.

At the worst you might see less interest in Necros in the zerg but even then necros bring a lot more then just damage so it might just be a hit we have to adapt to.

Dee Jay.2460:

fab.3298:

The on kill sigils stack, but not on crit.

So I’ll be stacking both +250 Power and +250 Precision with my Shortbow?

Doesn’t sound balanced.

They said the on kill stat stacking sigils won’t stack. You still will only be able to stack 1 stat at a time. So you could still use 2 bloodlust to stack it faster but you won’t be able to stack 2 different stats.

Look at your chat window…click the tab that says “combat” should be a default tab.

If its not there, make a new tab by clicking the + sign, right click and check “combat” uncheck everything else.

I’m sure Mark will jump in with the official answer and lock the thread but its now at a community ran site http://www.gw2wvw.net/.

The medals represent wins in tier 1.

Chris.3290:

Zikory.6871:

Chris.3290:

Israel.7056:

Being overstacked is a good thing. It reflects a strong community and high morale.

If our opponents are outnumbered then they need to do more recruiting.

The problem that SoR has always had is that they consistently refuse to pay people to transfer and they’ve turned away good guilds because they didn’t want to get “too strong” in certain timezones,as if that’s a bad thing. Then they come on the forums and post about not caring about the score and I just don’t think that’s a very good sales pitch. They also don’t attract a very strong PvE crowd because many of their big guilds actively show disdain towards PvE.

JQ has never had these sorts of hangups and I think that’s why JQ will usually be the bigger threat. They’ll take anyone, they’ll pay and they always play to win.

Not paying for guilds = problem = Tier 1 logic

To the best of my knowledge BG and JQ are the only servers who have bought guilds. SoR helped IRON after they decided they were coming. FA bought RISE and swore off buying after that went South.

You know…SoR was the server that consistently said that the do not help guilds move and will not offer gold to help guilds move…

Also since this still seems to be a subject…be a doll and show me the “best of your knowledge” and name some guilds that were bought by JQ and BG…do you best to remember what bought means as it is different then “helping” a guild with transfer costs…

If the offer to “help” is made before-hand, it’s buying. It’s one thing to say “we are transferring and we have a few people who don’t farm much waiting to transfer”. It’s another that the agreement is made before-hand that 25%-75% of the costs will be covered by the new server. Talking with some people who made the transfer said the process was handled very professionally and with great caution to make sure they were not scammed (both sides).

The vehemence of your denial accentuates the point(s) I was making in that T1 Logic is a different beast than anywhere else. You have to offer these denials to keep the shine on the server to keep recruitment up less you fall behind.
It’s clear to see to anyone with spare 5 minutes to spend on MOS where BG is in terms of coverage and population. The fact that this has to be argued accentuates where I was coming from.

No hate on my part btw, why you assume there is….shrugs. Just observing upon the obvious shouldn’t get such a reaction.

There is really no reason to keep this argument up. Your prospective from SoS? is obviously going to look at only the negative, I understand, you want to be part of the collective. Fact of the matter is, All 3 servers recruited, all 3 servers offered help to guilds, Blackgate won seasons, all 3 servers lost guild/s/players. Its over, its in the past.

I’m not sure what form a denial your referring to. I have yet to see any proof behind your claims out side of he said she said. Your only making wild assumptions off what you most likely read here. As for recruitment, I have no part in Blackgate recruitment, far better people then I do a great job on that front. Though I would like to point out that Blackgate hasn’t had a server wide recruitment post from quite some time and falling behind won’t be a issue as the shift in power will always happen. JQ will rise again or SoR(or its replacement).

I’m going to skip this population comment…I never questioned population differences…Though you should really take MOS with a gain of salt, it may show the PPT but it doesn’t show what is actively being done on the maps.

The “hate” is a assumption, you seem to have a lot to say about T1 and its servers for someone that does’t play in T1. No need to put so much emphasis on my “reaction” I just find it interesting that you have so much to say about T1…

Chris.3290:

Israel.7056:

Being overstacked is a good thing. It reflects a strong community and high morale.

If our opponents are outnumbered then they need to do more recruiting.

The problem that SoR has always had is that they consistently refuse to pay people to transfer and they’ve turned away good guilds because they didn’t want to get “too strong” in certain timezones,as if that’s a bad thing. Then they come on the forums and post about not caring about the score and I just don’t think that’s a very good sales pitch. They also don’t attract a very strong PvE crowd because many of their big guilds actively show disdain towards PvE.

JQ has never had these sorts of hangups and I think that’s why JQ will usually be the bigger threat. They’ll take anyone, they’ll pay and they always play to win.

Not paying for guilds = problem = Tier 1 logic

To the best of my knowledge BG and JQ are the only servers who have bought guilds. SoR helped IRON after they decided they were coming. FA bought RISE and swore off buying after that went South.

You know…SoR was the server that consistently said that the do not help guilds move and will not offer gold to help guilds move…

Also since this still seems to be a subject…be a doll and show me the “best of your knowledge” and name some guilds that were bought by JQ and BG…do you best to remember what bought means as it is different then “helping” a guild with transfer costs…

Chris.3290:

Liquid.9672:

Chris.3290:

I know people who said they had to wait an hour just to log onto the server (not WvW, the server; during Leagues).

Wait. What? You’re saying they were unable to load a character onto the server at all? If that’s what you’re saying, those “people you know” lied to you. I played every week during seasons, never had a spot where I couldn’t log into the server, and while yes there were queues I had no problem getting into WvW reliably and getting my achievements done and gaining plenty of WvW ranks without even trying.

Yes BG has more players actively participating in WvW than the other server right now. But that will change. It always has and always will until they turn the lights off on the game.

Just what I was told from someone who was there, I wasn’t so I can’t verify.

I will point out that during the ramp up to leagues that BG (along with JQ, not to point only one finger) were saying how they almost never have queues and they were short when they did… and the amount of QQ threads from those who stacked there was full to the brim.

I’m sure your queues aren’t too bad, but I’m sure you have them and there is a wait.

You can’t verify so you’d rather spread anti-T1 propaganda, oh the hate is strong in this one…and lawl…hour queue to get into the game? you bought that?

It is very true that all 3 servers SoR/JQ/BG noted the pre season queue times when recruiting and those times were very true. Its was only common to have a longish queue on EBG while at most a sub 10 minute queue (if any) on most to all BLs. This wasn’t a lie… any person that thought participation levels in WvW wasn’t going to drastically increase during season obviously was new to WvW.