Guild Wars 2

Open a support ticket. Its the fastest way to get a hold of some one that may be able to help you.

Rangerdeity.5847:

Zikory.6871:

With ~900 toughness I would not recommend the setup if you want to go anywhere near a zerg. Even then while roaming, 74% crit is unnecessary due to you gaining fury on DS and your power is quite low for having glass cannon defensive stats.

EDIT also your sigil of strength shares a cooldown so having 2 on 1 weapon set is a waste.

Your toxic oil is a waste for condi duration since you gain nothing from your conditions, considering your toughness I doubt you can be in a fight long enough to make use of the duration. Also your condi damage being at 300 means your damage from it is pointless.

Late Edit: You only have 1 condi clear on a 18s CD which also requires the attack to be successful. Well of blood is far to stationary for a setup of such little defense and should really only be taken over consume conditions if you have ritual mastery and even then its questionable.

like i said it requires skill to handle i use it vs 50 man zergs on a daily basis while im in a 20 man zerg our wins are consistent and i honestly dont need toughness a good necro blinds chills and cripples their enemy to mitigate the damage dealt by the enemy instead of mitigating the incoming damage. also i dont have 2 mights on one weapon set its one on each toxic oil condition duration is for blinds chills and cripples not bleeds or poisons. and well of blood if for the zerg not me focus on running for a zerg as opposed to running in a zerg. with fury and max stacks of perception i am at 104% just a tad overkill but with all the crit damage bonuses i have extra crit hits harder than extra power so i will take overkill. i am a mobile necro who doesnt rely on DS for damage or survival i use it as a tagger to lay some damage on everything around me after i shattered the enemy formation with my wells. then crippled them with my aoe weapon skills. Welcome to the min-max game time to learn meta bro

I see I’ll probably be wasting my time even responding but I’ll give it a shot. In your link you have 2 superior sigils of strength on 1 weapon set, just sayin. Also to clear this up mix/max game? if that was the case why would you waste stat points to be “overkill” in fact you are wasting 4 crit chance so you are not min/maxing. You do understand getting over ~50% crit chance on gear is wasting stats? Also if you don’t rely on DS for damage, why are you wasting 2 traits on life blast?

You can say what you want but I highly doubt you are part of any 20 man zerg pushing a 50 man zerg. I bet you spend most of you time on the defensive, drop your wells and pretend you’re a thief on the out skirts. I’ll tell you this, NO GvG or major WvW guild would even consider this build because its bad. You may think you are good with it and thats fine but sadly your toughness alone tells me that this is not a “meta” build at all. You are a glass cannon that hits like a wet noodle compared to a real glass cannon, the power stat dictates how much damage you are going to get from your crit damage and you are nerfing your self by putting so much into crit chance.

How are you a mobile necro? You have no stun breaks, your heal is a well (stationary), no stability out side on Lich form…AND running chilling darkness for blinds/chill and no plague form? You know making a “meta” build take more then picking stuff that looks and sound cool?

Also I should ask, what do you do when you get your 25 stacks? What sigils do you use in there place or do you still with 2 stacking sigils on one weapon set?

TBH dude your build is not a “meta” build, it is NOT min/max by any means, I would not recommend anyone wasting time and effort on this setup…

Nope, you are tied to the server you were on when you first logged in after the first day of seasons.

ParaldaWind.4523:

Chris.3290:

Wednesday afternoon and Maguuma hasn’t declared victory yet. Maybe they’re waiting to see if they can pass SoS so they can claim some sort of victory that is measurable unlike “Our roamers are better so we are technically the winners this week”.

Props to folks on Maguuma who actually show up to fight (INC, VR, Pyro, Ark, etc).

Edit: someone had to ruin my day and remind me it’s not Wednesday. Cruel…just cruel.

Winning due to coverage is kind of like winning a height contest.

We were born with coverage?

Nope! While I agree that it’s frustrating that people to refresh it, if it didn’t despawn, all the siege thrown by “trolls” would become more of a issue then it already is.

This patch has been live for 3 hours? People are just checking out new content…No reason to assume the sky is falling quite yet…

Tactical advantage go’s to Asura imo. The small model makes you almost invisible in most large fights. I find being a norn is similar to going into Lich, its just a huge target. Right now Necros are a key target in WvW for obvious reasons.

Looks: Sylvari/Charr always looked cool to me but i also Like Asuras look as they are the only class I normally play so they grew on me.

Racials: Probably Norn as Dunehammer pointed out. For most other classes the Necro skills are probably going to be better and more useful.

Rangerdeity.5847:

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fQUQRBHRhG2IkWlemmoGDfiA6x7rlzieUshtMqCrD-jECBoiFRjmiIgUGRORqIasFOFRjVXDT5iIq2grIa1SBwuuK-w

This build requires a decent amount of skill but it can solo camps in under a minute and smashes formations and has the CC necessary to prevent a warrior from getting inside the walls or escaping your damage is straight out instead of condition so those pesky condition removers wont do your enemies any good. Your damage at lv 80 in the full exotics is comparable to a superior arrow cart

With ~900 toughness I would not recommend the setup if you want to go anywhere near a zerg. Even then while roaming, 74% crit is unnecessary due to you gaining fury on DS and your power is quite low for having glass cannon defensive stats.

EDIT also your sigil of strength shares a cooldown so having 2 on 1 weapon set is a waste.

Your toxic oil is a waste for condi duration since you gain nothing from your conditions, considering your toughness I doubt you can be in a fight long enough to make use of the duration. Also your condi damage being at 300 means your damage from it is pointless.

Late Edit: You only have 1 condi clear on a 18s CD which also requires the attack to be successful. Well of blood is far to stationary for a setup of such little defense and should really only be taken over consume conditions if you have ritual mastery and even then its questionable.

Sreoom.3690:

Zikory.6871:

Sreoom.3690:

BG had this from the start…but will continue to whine about being underdogs until the end.

Lawl, It was everyone else that called BG the underdogs. We only embraced it. Blackgate players knew where we stood, we knew we were going to come out and give it everything we had for 7 weeks. Leading up to week 1 everyone was saying JQ had it in the bag and it would be a fight for 2nd, even then people expected SoR 2nd and BG 3rd. Why would you expect us to argue it…

Cool story Bro. What flavor coolaid are y’all drinking now a days?

Sorry you might be thinking of SoR, us Blackgate players only get generic powder drink mix to save up for more guilds. Its also be nice saving money on water since the tears keep flowing in.

Banzie.5248:

Zikory.6871:

Banzie.5248:

Zikory.6871:

Jayne.9251:

Doomdesire.9365:

Seigfried.5938:

Now we need a thread for guild of the year!

inb4 redguard

I’d nominate one but T1 NA would try to buy them

Fixed that for you

You get my +1 for the day. Coming from the #1 buyer of guilds server and not publicly denying it like everyone else.

You don’t see the joke in it, We have tried to correct the allocations of buying guilds and what exactly constitutes “buying”. Also have asked repeatedly for any names, rates, and proof of any claim made, all of which have failed to do. So as far as I’m concerned, might as well jump on the bandwagon and make a joke out of it.

Outside of T1 almost every server constitutes buying guilds as paying any sort of transfer money. I hope I cleared that up for you top 3 <3

Oh yeah? All the people on all the servers have one like minded opinion? How would one gather that much data?

Banzie.5248:

Zikory.6871:

Jayne.9251:

Doomdesire.9365:

Seigfried.5938:

Now we need a thread for guild of the year!

inb4 redguard

I’d nominate one but T1 NA would try to buy them

Fixed that for you

You get my +1 for the day. Coming from the #1 buyer of guilds server and not publicly denying it like everyone else.

You don’t see the joke in it, We have tried to correct the allocations of buying guilds and what exactly constitutes “buying”. Also have asked repeatedly for any names, rates, and proof of any claim made, all of which have failed to do. So as far as I’m concerned, might as well jump on the bandwagon and make a joke out of it.

Caroline.4987:

Zikory.6871:

akanibbles.6237:

T1? It doesn’t exists anymore. Gold, Silver, and Bronze.

Oh yeah? So all servers in gold league are on par with each other and there is no other way to measure a servers ranking system? What happens after week 7? Do tiers exist again?

Random matchups start again until the next season, and the next season won’t be at least until next year.

I think you misunderstood my post.

roostergoblin.2801:

Flipscore.4597:

roostergoblin.2801:

I’d settle for bragging rights.

I don’t see how tanking your rank to slip out of Gold league to dominate silver constitutes “bragging rights”.

Oh yes we all intentionally did poorly before the season that we didn’t know was coming. How did you know?!

How did you not know the season was coming? We all knew at least a month a head of time when the start date was and 1.5 weeks when they pushed it back a week…

Jayne.9251:

Doomdesire.9365:

Seigfried.5938:

Now we need a thread for guild of the year!

inb4 redguard

I’d nominate one but T1 NA would try to buy them

Fixed that for you

Chris.3290:

Seigfried.5938:

Chris.3290:

Samhayn.2385:

Being on SoR, I have seen less and less of the normal groups of people that I see in wvw on a nightly bases. If we keep on course we will be 4th in the league and a solid teir 2 server. Now if we hang in tier 2 depends on how we get hit by fair weather transfers to and from SoR. My gut tells me JQ and BG are going to see a large influx of players thou.

meh o well at least I don’t have to sit in que.

I’m hoping that it actually might encourage some destacking from BG and JQ; but as time has shown it usually takes a series of negative events to encourage a destack.
Some BG/JQ transfer love to SoS and FA would create 6 fairly balanced servers at the top and could keep WvW viable, competitive, and fun for a while.

Especially since the alternative now in beta sounds like a complete bust; it’s more important than ever that this game mode remains fun for people.

Lol you think this is a voluntary destack? They have got back to recruiting guilds.

No, I said I would like a voluntary destack from BG and JQ. SoR has killed their image in the forums and their play during the season. I find it interesting that the two responsible parties were the first to go.
If we could get the top 6 to around TC levels it would be fun; but as I said, history is against me on that one.

Besides, SoR hasn’t quite slid into T2 yet, but are in danger of going T1.5.

A destack would require guilds to split. JQ for example, ATM/FOO are a huge (HUGE) sea force and if all of BG/SoR’s SEA guild spread out, no one would be able to compete with them. The only reason GQ was able to cope with JQ’s SEA was because we had EU-OCX to upgrade objectives and force them to start from scratch every night. (not to discredit BG’s SEA, those guys did a great job!)

akanibbles.6237:

T1? It doesn’t exists anymore. Gold, Silver, and Bronze.

Oh yeah? So all servers in gold league are on par with each other and there is no other way to measure a servers ranking system? What happens after week 7? Do tiers exist again?

Sadly you have done the only thing you can do, report him. Send screen shots to anet and maybe they will handle it eventually. I’d say almost every server has had to deal with this at some point.

In the mean time things you can do to try and stop him. Hide golems better, I know thats easier said then done, if a troll wants them they’ll find them. Also have your zerg drain supply from keeps. I know that makes it hard to upgrade and defend but at least your using the supply rather then the troll wasting it. Also if there is no supply for them to waste they might get bored and stop.

Good luck.

KeeZee.7312:

yriafelc.6124:

KeeZee.7312:

Times BG/SOR/JQ fought each other = 26
BG 10
JQ 9
SoR 7
•All first place finishes

Times BG/SOR fought each other = 7
BG 6
SoR 1
•BG finished first all 6 times.

Times BG/JQ fought each other = 7
BG 3
JQ 2
•2 matches neither BG or JQ placed first.

Seems to me that BG’s matches against SoR were easy fights for BG. Stats don’t show BG to be in anyway considered the under dogs. They actually show them to be the strongest server over all between the 3.

Matches included beginning “Week 01 05-12 January” to present.

Unfortunately, rosters change so much frequently that historical data, while nice, is not an accurate representation of the current state.

Besides, the point of the thread is not about who will win, it’s about how ANet prepared the matches in a non-even way; with who-gets-to-play-whom not seemed to be decided with some reasoning that they can defend.

Andrew Clear.1750:

As far as the schedule goes, this is what you get with 6 team leagues. You aren’t playing each other every week, you are gonna have to deal with that, and with 2 match ups, someone is gonna get 1 more round of t2, in the 7 week season.

Not true though, you can create 6 weeks of tier1-tier2-tier2/tier1-tier1-tier2 then one week of tier1-tier1-tier1/tier2-tier2-tier2; or some other variation with even distribution.

The numbers are from this year. BG has done nothing but to continue to buy guilds.

Hello again KeeZee,

Since you seem to know so much, can you please provide the names and rates of said “bought” guilds and proof to back up your claims?

Hexin.5603:

I’m going to pop in a sec here to throw back to a week prior to the season … Mags pushed to get into gold. That was a hard push too btw, much like TC trying now.

That was not only admirable, that was an impressive week. If anything, coming to gold league has benefited mags with there new friends/new guilds that have decided to join forces during the season. Even if it’s not much… it still has benefited them. As it has with SoS.

So whether the season is a tank/crapshot who cares… in the end I think your servers respectively gained from it.

In fact, I’d go as far as to say SoS and Mag’s are lining themselves up for the new map. That is all.

How does the Mag peeps feel about all the FA talking about how they tanked scores to get into Silver? I’m probably reading to far into it but it sounds like if FA didn’t tank the scores Mag would still be in silver.

No, You are linked to the first server you logged into when seasons started. If you started on Anvil Rock and after seasons started you transfer to Blackgate, you get Anvil Rock rewards.

It would be nice. Even if you are doing PvE or what not, You are more or less forced to sit at your computer and wait for the queue. If you get up you have to come back and check it very regularly to make sure you don’t miss the queue.

SoPP.7034:

Zikory.6871:

SoPP.7034:

Zikory.6871:

I’m merely voicing my opinion on the matters

Which is my point, you comment on things you have a limited insight into.

How is that any different from those commenting on T1?

People from tier 1 or outside of it?

Well people out side of T1/T2.

SoPP.7034:

Zikory.6871:

I’m merely voicing my opinion on the matters

Which is my point, you comment on things you have a limited insight into.

How is that any different from those commenting on T1?

SoPP.7034:

Zikory.6871:

I’m having a hard time caring about anything you say

And yet you reply? I’ll just leave this here

Zikory.6871:

It’s up to you to make it fun

Tier 1 player telling a lower tier server how to play WvW (Not that your wrong of course).

I’m replaying because I have a interest in stupidity. Do you really think that “here” is the best place to put it? I think where I put it was a better fit.

Well I don’t think I was telling anyone how to play WvW but I think you may be taking my comments to seriously. I’m merely voicing my opinion on the matters, Its not consequence to me, I’m quite happy on my server and have been since launch.

EDIT: to clarify, I’m not calling you kitten, I’m saying I reply to almost every one because I’m interested in different peoples responses. Above came off kind of rude.

SoPP.7034:

Zikory.6871:

Aww I’m sorry, I guess if winning is the only way to have fun for you I can see why you are so bitter. I wish you the best. <3

Once again missing the point I see.

You may want to enlighten me on the “point” I’m having a hard time caring about anything you say so I’m not really reading into it. I’m just assuming your just another BG hate bandwagoner.

SoPP.7034:

Zikory.6871:

I have heard rumors of things going on in SoR and JQ.

More insight into other servers again? By all means feel free to bump the thread where you explain to lower tiered servers how some lower tier servers can have fun without winning -.-

Aww I’m sorry, I guess if winning is the only way to have fun for you I can see why you are so bitter. I wish you the best. <3

SpehssMehreen.5897:

didnt know “transfer fees” included 10k+ gold on top of the actual fees

Hello SpehssMehreen,

Since you seem to be so sure, can you please provide proof of said transaction? You can include name the guild involved that was “bought” the amounts paid and screen shots of conversations and mail with the gold included. I’m going to assume you are just another bandwagoner. Looking forward to your response.

zhonnika.1784:

Would much rather see an ‘all star’ game comprised of the ‘best’ players in NA vs the ‘best’ players in EU. Two teams. People who normally play together, suddenly teammates. I know it’d never happen, but it’d be fun to watch. Putting BG against anyone at this point is a folly.

I don’t think you’re the only person that would like to see that. I believe anet is unable to make it happen though. Question is who is the 3rd server? JQ, SoR, SFR, Piken?

Taking this thread seriously. The answer would be that leading up to seasons Blackgate was considered the underdog. JQ was thought to win and SoR to get 2nd. With the event that took place, SoR losing all 3 matches and JQ losing there match, BG surpassed the per season expectations. With the way the scores turned out it “looked” like these servers are playing dead. All of this was created by forum trolls/warriors. It was all just propaganda spread by all 3 servers.

Anyone that has been playing JQ and SoR would never really think either server is dieing or playing dead. SoR’s and JQ’s WvW guilds were out there every day fighting. The problem is that with BGs wins our fair weathers are in full force, allowing us to maintain queues on all maps all most 24/7. SoR and JQ’s fair weather population started to stop showing up (or at least not as much) and that left them out numbered.

I have heard rumors of things going on in SoR and JQ. Till they are confirmed by there server leaders I will assume both servers are fine. Relax and wait seasons out. BG clinches the win this week, JQ gets 2nd and SoR can tie 2nd if they go for it. Besides that, gold league is done.

I think its a bad idea. This is coming from my perspective in T1. I’ll use this one situation as a example. We are on a enemy BL wanting to hit Garrison. Were full on supply (with your 2x idea) We swing by NW tower and drop 2 rams and leave 2-5 people there to take the tower and the rest of the zerg proceeds to garrison. So say we take down outer gate, we move to inner and build siege. Say you take out that siege and the gate is still at 80%. Now normally we would be very low on supply and it may be hard to get siege up but since we have double the normal supply, we don’t need to leave.

Ok here’s a different example. Say we have a 60 man zerg, (can be common in T1) thats between 600-900 supply if were full on supply depending on the +5. That’s 6-9 golems that can be flash built at your door step. While that is more then enough to take the keep, doubling the supply will reduce the amount of people needed to do that. Now you have a 30 man zerg able to golem rush with 6-9 golems they built at your door step. Now bakc to the 60 man zerg, if you double the supply the now have 1200-1800 supply….the can build 8-12 Omega golems at your door or 12 to 18 alpha golems. Or they can build 5 AC’s and 10-16 golems.

My point is while yes you would allow for smaller groups to do more, you are buffing zergs to a possible extreme amount. I know you can say not all servers are like T1 and I understand that but the change would be global. In T1 scouts are very very common and for the most part ninjaing a keep or tower is not probable.

bloodletting wolf.2837:

Zikory.6871:

bloodletting wolf.2837:

WhiteAndMilky.2514:

Zikory.6871:

folly dragon.4126:

First place winners should get 10g
Second place should get 50g
Third place should get 100g
Fourth place should get 300g

You see where I am going with this?

First place servers dont need the help, they are perfect the way they are.

So you want to promote not showing up to get better rewards? Turn the game into who can do worse? Keep the ideas coming….

Personally I liked his idea. I mean, the gold will help those servers buy some rare or exotic gear. They could also use some of it to hire a build crafter for their guilds.

You try to troll an fail just to let you know. How about the coin to replace all of the siege that us l2p terribad servers set up in towers that the mega blob massively skilled players ignore because they can pvd a gate in seconds ignoring the defenders. You shouldn’t be rewarded for being a ultra skilled zergling.

Telling him he failed only proves he succeeded. You mad brah?

If I had taken him seriously he would have succeeded. You sad brah?

Isn’t that the point? It seems you have taken it more seriously than you’d like to admit since you felt the need to post your “pity me” story about how the big bad zerg pew pewed your tower.

sminkiottone.6972:

So, let me get this right,
Fartgate guys think they will win because they are more skilled than any other NA server ?

Who said that?

bloodletting wolf.2837:

WhiteAndMilky.2514:

Zikory.6871:

folly dragon.4126:

First place winners should get 10g
Second place should get 50g
Third place should get 100g
Fourth place should get 300g

You see where I am going with this?

First place servers dont need the help, they are perfect the way they are.

So you want to promote not showing up to get better rewards? Turn the game into who can do worse? Keep the ideas coming….

Personally I liked his idea. I mean, the gold will help those servers buy some rare or exotic gear. They could also use some of it to hire a build crafter for their guilds.

You try to troll an fail just to let you know. How about the coin to replace all of the siege that us l2p terribad servers set up in towers that the mega blob massively skilled players ignore because they can pvd a gate in seconds ignoring the defenders. You shouldn’t be rewarded for being a ultra skilled zergling.

Telling him he failed only proves he succeeded. You mad brah?

Solstice.1097:

Dsybok.1405:

Might be a silly idea, but just for fun I would like to see a matchup between the Gold/Silver/Bronze league winners for the ultimate WvW championship after the season ends.

Might be a predictable result, but never know until you do it.

maybe if it was a 24 hour or less match

That wouldn’t change anything due to the coverage difference. The only way to make it some what fair would be to have a match from reset to say midnight as that is the time where the population would be the most comparable. Even then I don’t know if HoD or FA queues all 4 maps on reset all night…

Jeydra.4386:

3) I don’t see why it is so difficult for you to comprehend the idea that we are overstacked. As I wrote it is my experience that we have (nearly) always been queued, at least when there is something to fight for. SoR and JQ have not. Therefore relative to JQ and SoR we are overstacked. Since it’s impossible for anyone to be more stacked than us (since we are nearly always queued) we can drop the “relative to JQ and SoR” line and simply say we are overstacked. If you do not think we are overstacked then you are also essentially saying that it is impossible for any server to be overstacked, since it is impossible to be more stacked than us.

I’m only commenting on this because the rest is of no consequence to me. I have no opinion of you and as long as your not belligerently insulting the Blackgate community (which I haven’t seen you do so) your opinion is your own and your right to have.

As for the word “overstacked” which is find interesting. If you’re looking at current population of the servers then you are right, compared to others we are more “stacked” then everyone else at the moment. Now to look at the game mode and how anet has implemented it. It’s a 24 hour battle over 7 days, meaning the best a server can be would be to queue all 4 maps 24/7. Blackgate is close to that and closer than JQ/SoR. Now being “overstacked” is irrelevant because there are set caps on how many people can be in WvW, meaning once you hit that cap, you’re full and can’t “stack” past that. The amount of extra people makes no difference as they can’t join the fight.

With all that, is Blackgate truly at fault for attempting to reach this cap? The game mode is setup to push for this type of coverage. So I would say other servers are under populated.

Epsilon Atreides.3816:

WhiteAndMilky.2514:

Zikory.6871:

folly dragon.4126:

First place winners should get 10g
Second place should get 50g
Third place should get 100g
Fourth place should get 300g

You see where I am going with this?

First place servers dont need the help, they are perfect the way they are.

So you want to promote not showing up to get better rewards? Turn the game into who can do worse? Keep the ideas coming….

Personally I liked his idea. I mean, the gold will help those servers buy some rare or exotic gear. They could also use some of it to hire a build crafter for their guilds.

Or maybe they’ll clue into the meta, pool the gold, and buy some guilds.

Next time around there should be server achievements. First 1 should require you to buy at least 1 guild.

folly dragon.4126:

First place winners should get 10g
Second place should get 50g
Third place should get 100g
Fourth place should get 300g

You see where I am going with this?

First place servers dont need the help, they are perfect the way they are.

So you want to promote not showing up to get better rewards? Turn the game into who can do worse? Keep the ideas coming….

Altie.4571:

Zikory.6871:

Do you really think they had no chance at taking the keep? What if they would have rushed the lords room rather than taking down every wall on there way in?

A) I didn’t say they couldn’t have taken it, just that they didn’t therefore the posters comment is wrong.
B) as per video, they did rush the lords room, and proceeded to wipe.

A) The comment didn’t say they did take the keep and said they “could have” meaning that they could have but didn’t. To say they couldn’t have is unknown there for to say they are wrong is also unknown.
B) Maybe we watched different videos…the video posted here clearly shows them going in south west gate, moving to west inner taking down all the walls, then back to north inner to go into the lords room. Rushing the lords room would have required them to proceed directly into the lords room upon entry of garrison. It’s clear that taking garrison was not the main focus of the event.

Altie.4571:

Liquid.9672:

LOL! Someone missed the point.

I was referring to the posters comments on the video description.

Do you really think they had no chance at taking the keep? What if they would have rushed the lords room rather than taking down every wall on there way in?

deathTouch.9706:

Liquid.9672:

Dsybok.1405:

Ok yeah I like the exhibition idea a little better. but I do not agree it would be a lopsided a match as everyone seems to think. I think there is a lot of gold league hubris involved in the folks saying they could triple wp all 3 bl and EB and then just camp spawn. I do not think it would be that easy.

I think it would be interesting to see the silver and bronze winner double teaming the gold winner, regardless of the result.

The only way it might be close is if it was indeed some kind of 6ish hour exhibition during NA prime only, which of course wouldn’t be fair to people who’s prime play time is in other time zones who wanted to participate thus Anet wouldn’t do this.

I don’t know, Anet has pretty much let oceanic server coverage purely determine the outcome of nearly every match-up since release, I don’t really see the harm in letting NA players determine the outcome of a single 6 hour match.

It’s not just OCE, there is the SEA and EU population as well. There is still 18 hours of the day worth of people that would not be able to participate.

TBH NA players do a lot more for the match then you make it out to be. Yes the Non NA players may make up a lot of the score but with out a strong NA you could lose it all. All time zones are very important, NA just seems less so because every NA server has NA coverage.

zoombi.1498:

Reverence.6915:

Sreoom.3690:

LOL Troll Post.

BG whined about the season match up claiming JQ was the winner…props to the tactic, SoR bought into your mantra and willingly became your kittenes to double team up on us.

Hope y’all enjoy the view at the top…cheap seats as they may be.

Totally. We are the WvW overlords. Bow down to our superior whining tactics. We did not outplay you on the field at all.

/sarcasm

outplay? no. outspend. yes.

I assume you have records of the amounts paid by all servers to back up your claim? Looking forward to your post.

Poxheart.2845:

You may, but my comment was directed at WhiteAndMilky. It’s also one of the reasons why you won’t see any posts from me calling BG out for not fighting when IRON first arrived on SoR.

You can consider the “we” in my comment both of us. Also you may not but the other numerous SoR posters made quite a few post calling out BG for not coming out, I think that was around the “RIP BG” comments.

Poxheart.2845:

It’s hard to say what’s happening to SoR right now. Speaking for myself, I’m somewhat bored of the zerginess of T1 and was seriously considering transferring to a lower tier server in hopes of finding smaller fights. From the frequency of guilds running without a commander tag, I don’t think I’m alone. If things go the way I think they’re going to, I won’t need to transfer. Fighting Mag has been a refreshing change of pace.

Those “3 bad weeks” weren’t unexpected to me, and shouldn’t have been to any SoR player that had been paying attention. SoR’s presence during the first 9 days of the league were anomalous. I think the only people who though SoR had a chance of beating BG during that stretch were BG and recent SoR transfers. (You can spot the latter by the chest thumping they did in the week 1 match up thread and the QQing they did in the week 2 match up thread). Anybody who’s been on the server for an extended period of time would have known that level of effort wasn’t sustainable.

Its interesting you say you would like to drop down to T2 considering your more or less blowing out that Tier this week, plus TC would move up so it would be SoS/Mag, being the big dog in a blow out is a nice change of pace.

Obviously your perspective of those 3 weeks must have been different then a majority of your SoR posters. It seemed you all were very confident along with all the BG has no chance comments. Regardless SoR and BG spent a majority of that match within 1k points of each other, with neither of us holding the top spot for very long. Personally I believed Blackgate would win in the end but I didn’t expect it to be by as much as it was. To clarify, I’m referring to posts made prior to seasons where knowledge of those 3 weeks were unknown. It seems odd that BG had more faith in SoR then some of the SoR population…at this point is seems our sheer resolve played a bigger part then our coverage. Just saying we wouldn’t have given up and taken to the forums by Monday.

Poxheart.2845:

WhiteAndMilky.2514:

You can’t says its all coverage when blackgate ticks 350 in NA prime and JQ and SoR are both qued all maps.

I can’t speak for JQ (though if you read through this thread you can assume it’s the same), but SoR does not queue all maps during NA prime. There are maps without queues even this week when we’re facing TC & Mag. This is telling because you’d expect the fairweather PVErs to be out in force (thus creating queues) in a situation like this.

Also, you obviously don’t understand the advantage having T3 upgraded maps gives a server going into NA prime. It’s not like NA prime rolls around and suddenly JQ or SoR can instantly flip those upgraded spawn towers & then push across the map (thus reducing the PPT).

Trust me when I say we are fully aware of the advantage of T3 keeps going into NA. We had to deal with it when IRON first came to SoR. It might be similar to the issues JQ was having this week going into OCE/SEA.

As for the other comment, from what I hear SoR is going through a rebuilding period? That might have a effect on your situation, plus you lost DIE which could field a good amount of people. Also you guys came off a rather unexpected 3 bad weeks so maybe its taking some time to get the morale back up and looking to rally next week for JQ. I don’t know, I can only make assumptions since I’m not on SoR. Either way I wish the server the best of luck and hope everything is well.

oltouch.2913:

flickky.2634:

Nice try Umberglade Mafia.

Love, the Umberglade Police <3

umberglade police 50 man zerg?

Umberglade SWAT got called in.

gebrechen.5643:

@Zikory
It was your server that was afraid of losing the league because of the schedule

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/JQ-3-easy-weeks-in-schedule-SOR-1-and-BG-1/first

and initiating a 2v1 vs. JQ. (21 BG replies on page 1 vs. 13 from other servers) The same guys that claim we didn’t show up from monday on.

So basically many of your server were not believing you could win a week against us or played the whine card pretty good. Even if we had come 1st place in week 1 the score between us could have looked like this:
23 : 23
and next week you have the “easy” matchup while we have to play SoR. Week 7 would have been a great kingmaker matchup.

And depending ZDs. As they said they will transfer to your server, you could have easily said “No, we are good enough without you, we don’t need to pay gold, better go elsewehre” as SoR did two times before the leagues as some guilds asked to join them.

That’s the big problem I have with BG. We knew you didn’t show up in the last match before the season. You always declined that. Meanwhile even your commanders state you took “a training week”.
So you could get your propaganda running “JQ is so stacked, you beat us by 100k” with the knowledge all your guilds were mainly in pve farming world stuff.

I’m going to start backwards. I’m not sure where your getting that we “declined” not showing up the week before seasons. I thought that was common knowledge, I know my guild didn’t form up once that week, our main commander was carebearing and other stuff. I know we were not the only guild on this type of leave. Please don’t try to make stuff up. As for what the trolls say, with your experience, you should know better then to believe every thing said here.

As for “your server that was afraid” maybe, but I know one thing, Blackgate believed in its self. It was posters from SoR and JQ that were saying Blackgate is going to lose and that JQ was going to take the win. We just never corrected you or defended our selves on that front. As for the 3 easy matches, the context of that thread derailed due to the massive amount of PvF players our servers have. First you had 3 guaranteed wins, period. SoR and BG have 1. The other T1 1v1s were unknown at the time of that post so any reference to it now is moot. The point was the schedule was unbalanced and favored JQ, guess that doesn’t matter now…

TBH I’m done on the ZDs front. They have made there intentions and reasons clear. This is a unending argument because your bitter and the only reason you can think of why you lost was because we got a guild. Maybe JQ should have sent more time looking into a EU force rather than adding to OCE and SEA…

gebrechen.5643:

Wait.. it was BG betting on the wrong horse. It was mainly BG population claiming JQ had the easy cheesy schedule and your server tried hard to keep that 2v1 with SoR running in match 1.

I’ll try to end this real fast though I’m sure your mind is set and don’t care. JQ was forced into 3rd because SoR and BG needed you to be there due to the 3 easier matches you got. If JQ got 2nd or 1st it would have been near impossible for BG or SoR to over take JQ in the ranks. To clarify that, no one assumed BG was going to take all 3 matches, for the most part people thought BG would take at least 1 maybe none. Blackgate was not the only server pushing for the 2v1 on JQ. Its time to get over it.

gebrechen.5643:

I would not say you knew ZDs would come to you, but you played that card well.
In week 2 SoR was really good and you came back in ppt, but SoR stopped fighting after ZDs joined you and SoR knew that they wouldn’t stand a chance even if they would pull crazy overtimes.

Week 2 was similar to this week as JQ had the lead going into the week days. I really don’t understand how this has been a surprise, almost every BG comeback to date has been around Monday. It worked before seasons and it’s still working. ZDs may have been a huge asset to the success but they aren’t they only ones out there playing hard. For week 2 our come back started in late NA ZDs only helped continue the momentum.

Tarkus.4109:

Zikory.6871:

Tarkus.4109:

Great, another chestbeating thread from BG.

Just to throw this out there but based off the OP’s posting history, he’s not even on BG so why are your server mates thinking you’re playing dead?

The comment was not directed at the OP, but it soon turned turned into another BG ego stroking fest.

Directed or not, the comment I quoted makes it sound as if you think Blackgate started this. I’m not sure why you think Blackgate players would stay out of thread filled with anti-Blackgate posts.

You only see it as a “ego stroking fest” because you take it so personal. To be fair, it seems like a reasonable question. Every one leading up to this match assured us this wouldn’t happen and JQ is going to be this force to be reckoned with. Same with the SoR matches before this. Your trolls brought this type of threads upon them selves and now are trying to find a new way to troll because all that talk before seasons in moot. Everything said didn’t happen. BG is about to be 5-0 and based off everything said before, the only people that believed in Blackgate was Blackgate.

TBH, I have countless times tried to defend JQ and SoR on the “servers are dieing” posts because I assumed better.

Either way, I hope you and SoR have a great match next week and I hope you both show up for week 7. Now that rewards will be out of the way we can have a clear match. Even if we get 2v1’d the whole time.

Tarkus.4109:

Great, another chestbeating thread from BG.

Just to throw this out there but based off the OP’s posting history, he’s not even on BG so why are your server mates thinking you’re playing dead?

Liquid.9672:

Chris.3290:

I respectfully request that Blackgate rolls all engineers for next week’s matchup…just because they can.

Full Turret builds with Supply Crate. A zerg of 40 Engineers deploying all their turrets simultaneously followed by 40 Supply Crates falling from the sky at the same time would be an epic sight. That would be 240 Turrets on the ground.

Or break the game…

morrolan.9608:

Zikory.6871:

Demoralized refers to your overall WvW participation. Your “hardcore” daily WvW guild will be out there every day, we know that and those people are respected for it. It’s the fair weather population that becomes the issue. The difference is that BG has its 25-30 man guild group and 30-40 pugs with them because they are doing well VS. SoRs 25 man guild group and no pugs because you’re not doing well. From where we’re standing it looks like SoR stopped showing up and is demoralized.

Thats fine but just don’t rewrite history to say it hasn’t happened to BG when it clearly has on multiple occasions since I’ve been playing against them.

Oh for sure, demoralized fair weathers have hit all 3 of our server a numerous occasion.