What were considering to do is just let you pvd throughout the the rest of the season and watch you implode and laugh aswell as not accepting your guilds where ever you go
My posts might come across as ‘angry’ but they are the truth and your all trying to hide and are failing miserably.
So all this “were here for fights” and “PPT doesn’t matter” talk was just that, talk? It seems you are so ready to give up at the first sign of diversity. It’s sad that we see this, we get a guild and you stop showing up to make it seem like were this super crazy unbeatable stacked server. In reality, you are unwilling to do what needs to be done to win…you say your here for fun? Giving up and not playing is fun? Seems like this might not be the right tier for you…
Atleast we all now know your gullibble
Gullible might not be right right word for it, just because you use the same excuse every week doesn’t mean it has any merit.
What were considering to do is just let you pvd throughout the the rest of the season and watch you implode and laugh aswell as not accepting your guilds where ever you go
My posts might come across as ‘angry’ but they are the truth and your all trying to hide and are failing miserably.
So all this “were here for fights” and “PPT doesn’t matter” talk was just that, talk? It seems you are so ready to give up at the first sign of diversity. It’s sad that we see this, we get a guild and you stop showing up to make it seem like were this super crazy unbeatable stacked server. In reality, you are unwilling to do what needs to be done to win…you say your here for fun? Giving up and not playing is fun? Seems like this might not be the right tier for you…
Will the real SoR please stand up? This is shaping up to be an embarrassingly one-sided massacre.
ofc we cant compete you’re a super stacked server and if anything its embarrassing for BG to do this
Didn’t SoR and TC stomp BG last weekend? What happened to that SoR?
Besides even if BG is super stacked SoR could still have done something like held Valley in EB. The keep was T3 with a million pieces of siege inside, and the queue would ensure that SoR cannot be outnumbered. And yet when I log on today SoR have … nothing … on the map, with even TC ticking more points.
Earlier this week BG was fully queued on all four maps a lot of the time, but SoR still doesn’t have to lose this badly. I’m really disappointed.
We all held ques over the week end, so the difference has to be that SoR is now just not showing up. After we took the lead I guess SoR just got too disheartened.
Why should SoR bother competing, before it was fun to but now even JQ dont want to compete with BG, pathetic that Anet didnt lock the servers
At least JQ will show up, I know BG is stronger in late NA but we haven’t ticked 400+ consistently in that time zone ever. Its clear SoR guilds aren’t showing up. We know you have the people because last week was completely different. You may have your reasons for EU but how does ZDs coming here explain your performance in NA?
Would it not be better that if guilds insist on moving to upper tier servers that those guilds go to TC, Mag, SoS, Sbi, and FA? Why not make the top 8 US servers more competitive than the top 2 or 3?
Why do people keep saying this. NA guilds do not make a server stacked. For the most part any guild out side of NA move up to get more competition and since they are all on the top 3, they come here. Why would a EU guild go to a T2 or T3 server when they will have no one to fight? SEA guilds come to SoR or BG to fight JQ’s SEA force.
Out side of the random match up every couple of weeks, there is no consistent coverage out side of NA. A non NA guild would have to take a hit and PvD for a few weeks to try and entice others to join there competition. I doubt any EU guilds would want to do that when they can get fights and no queues in T1 or stay in EU…
So Much QQ over ZD’s moving to BG which gives them a bit more strength in a weak timezones.
When we (IRON) joined SOR helping there EU i dont recall mass forum emo. please just grow up and enjoy the fights when you get them, its getting really pathetic…
If any ZD Guys are up for open field fights around EU times throw me a whisper
I don’t think anyone was upset about IRON coming here. If I recall right you guys brought new interest to HB and RK, which was good for everyone. I think “QQ” didn’t start till KISS went to SoR, mainly because at the time it stacked SoR while JQ was left with very little EU. But that’s old news…
You may be right since SoR forum warriors are trolling their own server.
o.O
No, they just need to be deleted. There’s no because sor was or because bg was. It’s a kittenfest in here. These forums are only a place of trash talking.
Meh, its up to the posters to keep it classy. Trash talking and what not can be fun and create a healthy rivalry. Problem is to many people take this stuff seriously, its understandable, people are competitive and take pride in what they do…take it with a grain of salt and let it fuel your enjoyment of the game.
Stuck on one toon is a bad argument now. With all the liquid WXP you can easily get a good jump on levels on a new toon. I saved over 100 drops, 20 timbles and 2 kegs since reset plus the 50+ laurels I have. Thats 50 levels for any new toon without even walking into WvW…
I don’t think anyone else is having this kind of luck, not to mention 50 levels on one alt means nada in the grand scheme of things.
It should be account bound. They have not given one VALID reason why it is not, nor has anyone else.
50 levels is a great start! 4 ticks Supply master, 2 ticks Build Master, 2 ticks Repair Master is 19 points which is a good base for your points. That leaves 31 points to start a mastery like AC or Ram. 50 Ranks is more than enough to start a fresh character in WvW. I wouldn’t expect a new character to have defense against guards, a full mastery and some other stuff, that’s just silly imo.
As I have seen 3 thimbles and zero kegs, with about 30 hours a week in wvw since they were released, I can only assume you play 24/7.
The rest of us are still working on our basic wvw abilities on our first character.
So yes. Account wide would be beneficial and make very good sense for 90% of the population that, you know, sleeps sometimes.
Nope, I play 3 hours a night weekdays and only got to play about 8 hours this weekend due to irl and queues. That only about 13 hours this week…roughly about 20 hours by reset this Friday. Maybe I’m lucky or maybe me being on Blackgate makes a difference, I don’t know.
Your assumptions are off base, RNG is a pain I guess…
SoR here, played about as much as you. You have some awesome RNG, I only got about 8 thimbles total.
Thats good to know, maybe you guys just drop better lootz. Or maybe its making up for the hundreds of gold wasted in the MF.
As I have seen 3 thimbles and zero kegs, with about 30 hours a week in wvw since they were released, I can only assume you play 24/7.
The rest of us are still working on our basic wvw abilities on our first character.
So yes. Account wide would be beneficial and make very good sense for 90% of the population that, you know, sleeps sometimes.
Nope, I play 3 hours a night weekdays and only got to play about 8 hours this weekend due to irl and queues. That only about 13 hours this week…roughly about 20 hours by reset this Friday. Maybe I’m lucky or maybe me being on Blackgate makes a difference, I don’t know.
Your assumptions are off base, RNG is a pain I guess…
Stuck on one toon is a bad argument now. With all the liquid WXP you can easily get a good jump on levels on a new toon. I saved over 100 drops, 20 timbles and 2 kegs since reset plus the 50+ laurels I have. Thats 50 levels for any new toon without even walking into WvW…
Its just a conflict of interests, I don’t know enough about NDs yet to say but Blackgate has always been more known to go for PPT while SoR was more for the fights. If NDs is more PPT focused then is seems they will fit in with Balckgate well, just like IRON did with SoR.
@Zikory. There’s no good time to farm for anything in WvW except the pain you inflict on other players. It’s always going to be an issue.
And yes. I think across all servers queues are up a lot, guilds are struggling and there are dozens of randoms wandering about lost.
Well I asked because BG’s queues are much better this week. While still long not as bad as last week. I even heard of a float team…I was just wondering if a lot of your population kinda waited for this week to try and farm out the achievements since its a “easy week” for you guys.
“Easy week” or not any type of farming helps no one. The EB queue is at least a few hours at all times.
I approve of rewards for wvw, just not the way it’s set up. WvW is about killing and capping. The less servers or people who log in wvw do tat, the worse it is for all.
People put effort into capping and upgrading. This sort of encourages letting everything be paper for rewards.
I disagree, farming in this sense could help your queue times. You guys have a good opportunity to help people get there achievements and get out of WvW. Also you guys have a very large PvE population and I would bet a good amount of them would be willing to learn more about WvW.
The difference is that farming in WvW is not more profitable than PvE so they want to farm for the achievements, once they are done they won’t care anymore and go back to PvE. As for your WvW players, they won’t care because WXP ranks come easy to full time WvW players.
Jayne is right, They do not just give you a chest/s when you log in. They add “bonus chests” to your normal WXP level chests. So if you won your match you would get 3 bonus chests, meaning for the next 3 WXP levels you gain you will get your normal chest plus a bonus 1.
As for “more rewarding than ever!” meh…out of the 3 chests I got 2 rares and 4 greens. Which is much better then before but I would go as far as saying “more rewarding than ever!”
Fair enough. Then the Dev’s post is very misleading, because it implies that we get the chests as soon as the match is over. It doesn’t say a word about the chests only being awarded when we rank up.
I fully agree, I thought the same thing till I got a few ranks and had random bonus chests. Had to put 2 and 2 together lol
@Zikory. There’s no good time to farm for anything in WvW except the pain you inflict on other players. It’s always going to be an issue.
And yes. I think across all servers queues are up a lot, guilds are struggling and there are dozens of randoms wandering about lost.
Well I asked because BG’s queues are much better this week. While still long not as bad as last week. I even heard of a float team…I was just wondering if a lot of your population kinda waited for this week to try and farm out the achievements since its a “easy week” for you guys.
Jayne is right, They do not just give you a chest/s when you log in. They add “bonus chests” to your normal WXP level chests. So if you won your match you would get 3 bonus chests, meaning for the next 3 WXP levels you gain you will get your normal chest plus a bonus 1.
As for “more rewarding than ever!” meh…out of the 3 chests I got 2 rares and 4 greens. Which is much better then before but I would go as far as saying “more rewarding than ever!”
Starting off with a trolly question…Is it really still a issue with your current match ups? I mean you guys have 3 wins regardless…wouldn’t this be a good time to farm achievements for your players and try to train the willing PvE’ers?
For real question, did you guys see a increase in PvE participation when you guys went into this match up? Did queues go up? and is it harder to get guilds together on maps?
So lets do a test…we need a dead thing and a object for it to pick up. What were going to do is ask the dead thing to pick up the object and see what happens…
But really, don’t die…it makes it easier…
But seriously, I know right! I’m with it you, it sucks when you die and can’t get your lootz.
The requirement for each tick of Demolition Expert needs to be reduced so it’s easier to get credit. When you commonly run with a group or zerg of at least 10 (and usually several times that) it’s pretty much impossible to get in even a few hits with a ram or shots with a treb.
I’ve heard that even if you hit the door enough with your personal weapon you can get credit for DE. But I’ve totally unloaded on at least two dozen doors with my ranger (lvl 80, mostly beserker, exotic gear, ascended longbow) and only have 1/10 in Demolition Expert.
You can use your weapons but gates have a lot of hp so you have to do a lot to get the tag. If your zerg has 2-3+ rams up, its very unlikely that you’ll get enough damage in.
You do understand the reason TC gets hit with a 2v1 is because they are unwilling to partake in one them selves. I would bet most BG commanders would love nothing more than to push SoRs side but ever time they do TC has to try to hit a tower on BG’s side. This forces BG to come back and after a few times the only logical thing to do is to push TC. And SoR is going to jump on a 2v1 against TC because that keeps the 2v1 off them and they get to hold more PPT and upgrade there stuff.
So you say TC plays the exact same tactic BG always does when in a match with JQ and SoR? Maybe TC can learn.
TC plays on oprotunity, and without blobs, for the most part. Its regular to see us with 3 or so 20~ish large groups on reset night and only one commander tag on the map to lead militia. Its less effective against T1 servers though, who only go around in giant blobs of 50-60 players and quickly put a stop to anything we try. With the exception of JQ maybe. We’ve pulled off some funny stuff with a lot of luck against you guys before. Example being one person solo golem rushing tier 3 bay and basically pulling it off.
I’m not knocking TC, I think you guys do great in your own right. I was only pointing out one reason why you guys may get focused over the other “stronger” server. I mean good on you guys for not conforming to the “T1 meta” and still do as well as you do. I’m just saying don’t complain about getting pushed or calling out BG for something when it may have been your commander/players that provoked it. (Also thats more pointed at Jeydra.4386, the first guy I responded to)
You do understand the reason TC gets hit with a 2v1 is because they are unwilling to partake in one them selves. I would bet most BG commanders would love nothing more than to push SoRs side but ever time they do TC has to try to hit a tower on BG’s side. This forces BG to come back and after a few times the only logical thing to do is to push TC. And SoR is going to jump on a 2v1 against TC because that keeps the 2v1 off them and they get to hold more PPT and upgrade there stuff.
So you say TC plays the exact same tactic BG always does when in a match with JQ and SoR? Maybe TC can learn.
Meh, You should know what happens on EBG when server 1 is attacking server 2 and server 3 tries to ninja stuff from server 1. The focus gets changed and that server normally gets “punished” for it. The map politics are just different in a JQ/SoR/BG match because we have 3 equally strong servers.
When I mentioned in map chat about how cruel we were being, my teammates were like “don’t pity TC, they deserve it”. What did you guys do to BG anyway?
Not everyone feels the same, and well, you were on EBG afterall. You have to take what you read in map chat with a grain of salt in that zone. As far as the tone, one can only guess. From my play this weekend during NA prime it did seem like TC was being overly aggressive with BG and more passive with SoR, so that could have gotten some players fired up. Who knows. But most of us WvW vets know that there’s usually a reason an enemy commander targets one server over another, or 2v1 a server to break a waypoint or something (like Sat night on TCBL Hills) and don’t get all bent out of shape about it.
Many months ago BG and TC actually developed a very friendly relationship during our month of T2 matches.
Here’s the situation in more detail.
Map was Eternal Battlegrounds
Blackgate held SM
SoR led Blackgate by ~10k points
Long queue to enter EB for Blackgate
TC’s Overlook was T3 (waypoint built)
TC’s Veloka was T3 (700/700 supply with lots of siege inside)
SoR attempts to take Overlook with I-don’t-know-what, but they were stopped at OL west gate. The swords there warned us that there was a fight going on. We were in our corner of the map at the time. Commander takes the zerg and pushes for Veloka, using four (!) superior rams and taking it without resistance. Around this time SoR fails to take OL and goes on to take Mendon’s. After taking Veloka BG builds 7 Omega golems and goes for OL as well, but get wiped; while BG were outside Overlook SoR takes SM, ending the 2v1.
I think there’s no rational reason for the commander to go for Overlook / Veloka, other than to prey on TC. TC could do nothing about it – they’re stuck in a 1v2 against two superior servers. It must be very frustrating for them since they’ve already done all they can (holding Overlook), yet their position still deteriorated dramatically.
Shortly before I transferred out of SoS I had this week playing against JQ and FA. JQ had enough of a numerical advantage to simply roll over SoS and FA, which they did, but not just that they started spawn camping people with superior Ballistae while spamming /laugh. Not funny. TC are way stronger than SoS or FA, but even so. BG shouldn’t play like JQ. I’m disappointed, really.
You do understand the reason TC gets hit with a 2v1 is because they are unwilling to partake in one them selves. I would bet most BG commanders would love nothing more than to push SoRs side but ever time they do TC has to try to hit a tower on BG’s side. This forces BG to come back and after a few times the only logical thing to do is to push TC. And SoR is going to jump on a 2v1 against TC because that keeps the 2v1 off them and they get to hold more PPT and upgrade there stuff.
If you haven’t already, check out http://blackgatewvw.com/ It’s Blackgates WvW forums and all of our WvW guilds are members. I don’t know of any “Spanish guilds” but I’m sure there are plenty of Spanish speaking players. <3
Do you think trolling the JP justifies your taking up valuable space in the BL? It doesn’t. Go do something productive and help your side take or defend an objective.
Thats debatable, If 1 guys is denying a group from completing the JP then hes doing a good job. If he is keeping 2 or more people in the JP then he is keeping those people from fighting for there server. Just because its not the most productive thing he can be doing, doesn’t mean its not productive.
Also posts like these are what keeps people doing it…if there is no reaction, trolls get bored. Your just enabling them, if there goal is to troll, its working…
Why are JQ complaining about 2v1? BG and SoR 2v1 JQ for like 8 hours yesterday, but JQ has been best buddy with BG and 2v1 SoR since the beginning of time. You dont see SoR crying about it, only JQ
really? try reading the match up thread, plenty of folks from SoR whining, there is even 1 in this thread of yours.
Hmm, on your other point, JQ has been best buddy with BG and 2v1 SoR since the beginning of time? Well this is inaccurate on so many levels I don’t know where to start. I suggest you try harder at school.
To reinforce this, Waha is known to focus who he thinks is going to do what ever Waha looks for in WvW. JQ’s SEA has pushed both SoR and BG’s faces in at one point or another.
I STILL want a reply from a dev. I’ll settle for, "we will take some lessons from this season and apply them to season 2 in regards to scheduling. "
I think Devon said there won’t be a season directly after season 1 ends so most likely this is a “beta” season. I’m sure well see some differences. My hopes is they figure out skill lag and the population imbalances by then. Don’t get me wrong the SoR/BG/JQ battle is great but a 6 way fight to the end would be crazy…
The above time is when I logged. JQ could have pushed hard for 2nd during it’s strongest time zone but didn’t. It’s just really weird between all the effort put in this week to just give up on the final leg. More so since it’s a weekend for JQ SEA, and they could have put in the OT to lock in 2nd place.
Anyway, it’s been an exciting week, enjoy the pre-reset karma train all.
It’s also weird that SoR just gave up on 1st place too.. I really think SoR could have pushed for 1st given EU, but I guess SoR just burnt out and couldn’t handle BG’s mastery…we are all quitters in the end.
I don’t think thats the case. If SoR would have pushed for first and failed JQ could have over taken them and been in 2nd, which is bad for both BG and SoR. Given the score at the time, it was smarter to secure 2nd and confirm JQ taking 3rd. That said it could have easily been BG in SoR’s position with how close the score was all week.
Not yet, but we have a plan and, barring a setback, it will be in before the end of the year. Keep in mind, the solution we are rolling out is just a general solution to make it feasible to make them without running fractals, not necessarily a WvW focused solution.
Can you offer any information on your ideas behind that? Will it be a item that will just replace the fractal item in the mystic forge? Also is it going to be a item that can be obtained through regular game play and not force people to run particular content?
It will be and it will fall in line with the other Ascended crafted gear. I don’t want to talk specifics until we are locked in, but the idea would be that you can relatively easily acquire the item that is replacing the fractal item. You will still be able to use the fractal items as well.
That sounds awesome. Thanks for the reply!
Now to the real issue here. Ascended Aqua breather!?
Not yet, but we have a plan and, barring a setback, it will be in before the end of the year. Keep in mind, the solution we are rolling out is just a general solution to make it feasible to make them without running fractals, not necessarily a WvW focused solution.
Can you offer any information on your ideas behind that? Will it be a item that will just replace the fractal item in the mystic forge? Also is it going to be a item that can be obtained through regular game play and not force people to run particular content?
Been a GREAT week in WvW, kinda sucked in SoR BL ALL DAY yesterday though, SoR spawn camping us and BG waiting for us around the ruins…ugh -_-
My favorite part: Killing this one BG idiot who decided to mess with us JQers in our BL JP, and a group of WPAK members just got together and DESTROYED him. I joined in the fun ^^ and good riddance. Why is it that BG is always the one camping JPs, lol. I even seen about 10 OF THEM in the obsidian sanctum the other day. Kinda sad and desperate tbh
It took a group to kill 1 dude in the JP? Thats super impressive…kinda sad but impressive…
When it comes to week 7 I wonder if it will be dejavu all over again. You guys must have fun (?) 2v1ing servers. Shows how much skill the servers have.
Personally I hope it works out so when we go into week 7 all 3 of us have close to the same score. That way week 7 can be a true all out war for who gets first. I would love to win but having it decided before week 7 would be kitten.
There is always a lot of suggestions like this. Anet wants this game to be a team game, where in the open world anyone can join in on your adventurer. They will not punish a group of players for playing together.
The only reason I started WvW after playing GW2 since launch are the LS achievements. So tell me, why is Demolition Expert and Camp Vanquisher not progressing ? I’ve been WvWing for days and just noticed that.
Demolition Expert requires you to do X amount of damage to a gate or wall. It is obviously easier to hit this damage threshold with siege but you can attack a gate (not walls) with your weapon and do damage. Its like tagging it for loot. Camp Vanquisher, I don’t know the correct answer, I have the same issue, I’m 5/50 and I’v flipped a lot more than that.
How come Dreaming Bay has a WP on one map but not on the other map? Same with our server’s map’s garrison? We’re holding dreaming bay and garrison and we don’t have WP’s there…or we hold the keep on the east of the map and one time there’s a WP there and another time it isnt…
The only WP on the map that are consistent are the spawn WP. So Citadel and the 2 far south WP for the other servers. WP on Bay/hills/garrison/ebg keeps/SMC are all a upgrade of the keep. When you first take the keep it has nothing and someone can start a upgrade. Things like stronger walls/gates cannons/mortars, more guards, and a WP. These upgrades cost supply from the keep.
30 in spite is actually taken in essentially every high damage build there is, so yes its pretty strong.
Axe isn’t that great, really. Its okay in PvE where you can set up really high damage 2s and staff is meh for power builds, its okay in PvP if you are a bunker-y Necro without staff, and its okay in WvW if you aren’t using dagger in a power build. It also makes for a decent hybrid weapon.
However in general Axe is a situational weapon, not an instant-pick.
WvW zerg wise, It depends. Axe is the go to because of axe 3. Mainly the boon strip but the retal is nice to paired WH. If your going for single target damage, for the most part you would use life blast so Axe training would make it easier to have highest possible with having to switch to staff. But your right the damage is meh, unless your running a lot of zerker it won’t do notable damage, tankyer builds won’t see that kind of damage.
Tiers were set up for a reason and one of them is prevent match-ups like these.
I’d say probably all of JQs battles sans BG and SoR will look similar to these.
I was and still am in one of the server you guys pulverized last year.
One way to prevent JQ from mowing us down is by working together to apply pressure on them. Hopefully we won’t be as “easy” if we Tier 2s worked hand in hand.
JQ will mow you guys done in SEA. Your NA will probably be a blast. For the record JQ’s SEA can mow down any server, doesn’t matter the tier.
Yes you have to finish the meta, so 15 of the 19 achievements. Personally, I’m about 85% done and have not tried in away to “grind” one out. Mind you I did knock out the JP’s which I would normally not do but the are fast so what ever. Also I don’t play much more than 2-3 hours a night, most of which is stuck in queue, weekends may vary.
Over all you have 7 weeks to do them, for the most part they are all very easy to get in that time frame. Though 500 supply repairing seems a bit much imo…
