Guild Wars 2

It heals for 2590 with or without healing power.

The initial healing value of the well is incorrectly displayed as 3230 with a coefficient of 0.3, when it heals for 2590 regardless.

When playing as a crusader chrono I noticed that my well seems to be healing less than expected. Turns out that the initial healing value is 2590, and not 3230+0.3hp as the ingame tooltip shows. Can anyone else confirm this?

I would say you could change either of the weapons with sword/focus. With Signet of Inspiration and Temporal Curtain(focus4), you can sustain permanent swiftness, which helps sooo much in open world

WTF people I’m being very serious about this please give some respect.

doddbox.8153:

vid is clerly sped up 2x speed, every1 knos engineer is suck class and condi is dumb

nice 1 hr vid sped up m8 haha bye

R u noob? Condi engie has the highest dps in the game atm, and your eyes obviously have a problem if you think it is sped up.

TheFrighteningFrenchFry.3275:

Me? Or the other people? If me, would you mind pointing out what? Cause I went into detail to all there responses. Also, sword AA getting 10% damage boost woot woot. Ib getting a 50% damage nerf. Definitely will lesson the gap between taking another ele and a revenant or maybe even make revenant better to take. I’ll probably think it over more tomorrow more.

Was addressing the scepter overwriting phantasms. It has already been covered that you would never have up to 3 phantasms up using the build, yet you still repeatedly say that it would overwrite phantasms

pls, read the whole thread once again everytime you make an ‘arguement’, I’m sure you’ d find the answer.

Rainbowsand.2438:

EremiteAngel.9765:

i’m quite tired of all these mesmer is OP threads.
they should ban all these threads.

Let me guess your main is mesmer?

Lol he mains necros

Yesssss more Neith pls
/joking

So I’ve been trying to play a bunker necro build for holding points againts multiple people. I modelled this build http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Necromancer_-_Bunker
and came up with
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNAoYWjc0QnN2TD22A/NOsGKZAEyl88kjggl2CxwIA-TJxHABPXGQgnAAK7PAwpAAA
I would like to recieve suggestions about:
Axe or dagger/ warhorn or dagger
sigils of Leeching or Purity
Unholy matyr or Transfusion
Unholy Sanctuary or Corrupter’s Fervor
Blood Bond or Ritual of Life
possible rune options
Thanks

You can get berserker armor from doing either Citadel of Flame (CoF) or Arah to get tokens, and use the dungeon tokens to buy berserker armor from the dungeon merchant in lions arch. Or you could just buy the armor directly from the trading post, but that will cost you a bit of gold

EremiteAngel.9765:

well…i’m not going to try and change your opinions now…but dont clamour to nerf necros when we meet in HoT

Im afraid that you would cry nerf Chrono in HoT….

IMO the mesmer would probably have enough boon removal and CC to deny stability for at least 5 seconds, which is more than enough to shutdown a reaper.

Might be off topic, but i would actually suggest either Pack or Centaur, with pack being better overall imo. They give you higher uptime on swiftness, almost enough to be permanant.l, and pack also has very nice offensive stats to keep up ur dps

Lishtenbird.2814:

So many words typed, so much time spent, and the OP still fails to realize that mesmer GS auto damage floater is bugged (as it is for many frequent auto skills).

If you do 10000 damage on GS auto over 10 seconds, it means you’ve been doing 1000, 1000, 1000… damage per second. And not 1000, 2000, 3000… 9000, 10000 per second.

And if you’re getting 5000 damage on a Rapid Fire in 2 seconds, unsurprisingly, it means you dealt 2500 damage per second.

I think you’re the one that is confused. The op is complaining that it takes too long for a mesmer to deal 10,000 damage, when compared to ranger. Not what you are trying to say.

Ranger’s longbow 2 git buffed so the cast time came from 4ish seconds to 2ish seconds. Maybe thats what you’re looking for.
And also, ele kills stuff faster than ranger with more AoE, and necros dont even come close, not sure why you would say necros have high damage o.0

Dont really see a problem using this build for doing open world, since even nomads guards can do fairly decent out there.. But when people say PvE, they usually mean doing dungeons, and your build is just very poor at doing dungeons efficiently. The role of every class in dungeons is to 1. Deal as much damage as u can and 2. Provide the support your team needs for the specific dungeon. For mesmers that is mainly reflects and occasionally stealth and condi removals. With your build, you need quite a bit of ramp up time in order to deal the maximum amount of damage, and shattering your phantasms for torment completely opposes the idea of keeping your duelists alive for bleed stacks. Also, it should be mentioned that bleeding caps out easily in dungeons from other classes, so you might just be overcapping it and lose a huge portion of damage.
So here’s what I can recommend changing your build. Rendering shatter is just provides a barely noticeable amount of vuln, and since ur build is mainly condi focused, it doesn’t get affected by vuln that much. Instead, take empowered illusions for better duelist damage. I’d recommend taking away the shattering part completely, and put points in inspiration to take warden’s feedback, and replace the staff with a sword and focus. Although still not the most optimized, this should be the closest to being slightly better for a build that suits your playstyle.

edit: forgot to mention that mobs are either too lazy to move or stacked tight in a corner, so torment is just a waste there.

Contrary to popular belief that healer is completely useless and should be dismissed, while that might be true when you are trying to complete a dungeon effectively, it is actually shown by a few people trying to 3man or maybe 2 to have one of the players a tanky support guardian. You scarifice damage, but it makes your allies totally facerollable to do damage and avoid a large amount of damage when you hold aggro. However, a lot of attacks are AoE, and ‘tanking’ is probably not too possible in the current state of the game, therefore it is highly unoptimized.
Maybe you might think that everyone is only doing dps and its boring. That isn’t true either. Even in the best speed runs, party members sacrifice a small fraction of their potential damage for the slightest bit of control and /or support to keep themselves alive while maximizing damage. So instead of having a dedicated tank/dps/support, in GW2 the role of support is split among everyone.

Wow dem necro tho

No scepter is not terrible at all. It’s absolutely amazing at what it does. But it mainyis a condition weapon, so using in PvE is the first mistake. There are exceptions to this, but those are only in pvp. In dungeons and fractals you’re gonna be using a main hand sword+sword/focus setup, so you have to get used to meleeing mobs anyways.

First things first removed the Confirmed from the title. Its extreamly misleading.
Then, can you post more details about the virus, what do you mean when other games are ‘unplayable’ etc

I highly disagree that hammer is slow and never lands any attacks. The Hammer-GS combo is actually IMO the deadliest out of the other meditation combos. You use hammer 5 first, and during the animation use judge’s intervention. Then follow up with hammer 2, 3 4 if you like, and you swap to GS and use 2 3 4 5 to your heart’s content.
Here’s two videos of Hollts using his Gs hammer medi build:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=jt2pKjnydwA
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Pxo29Mre3Dw

Cobalt is a nice GS skin, especially love it in dark parts of the living story, it shines so brightly

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I run a no-evade Mesmer setup just fine, which works perfectly okay for all game modes, and that without needing to swap any gear or traits. Sure, I get killed if I am outnumbered (as to be expected), or a decent Thief is on me. Sure it can be annoying to fight HP regeneration-master-race Warriors or survivable not-really-all-that-glass cannon-but-hits-like-a-truck-nonetheless-since-their-re-balance-which-took-a-balanced-profession-I-loved-and-made-it-unbalanced Guardians. But if you need dodges? No. You don’t need Blurred Frenzy, Critical Infusion or Distortion either. You can be competitive without using the crutch that is evasion. That’s how I see it, a crutch, as being not able to be hit is not a display of skill. The enemy couldn’t hit you or what you were doing. Hence, it’s a crutch. It can be something that tricks you into thinking you may be decent, when you really aren’t (in the majority of cases) the second you stop using it. And that sudden change from being a winner to a wiener, is not because the profession needs evasion to function. It is because you actually used a crutch and aren’t as good as you think you are. Try it, if you’ve been a evasion user for a long time. It’s kinda like thieves saying they need evasion (beyond triggering on-evade procs, e.g., Power of Inertia) when a great Thief knows that they have so many stealth that evasion is not entirely necessary for them. Once in a blue moon you come by them, but they’ll demolish you as well. The good players, not the ones that ride on a crutch. I am a proud Mesmer, proud of not using evasion. You can probably defeat me just fine in PvP, but I don’t care. At least I weren’t using evasion. That said, if you enjoy using evasion skills, and that is fun to you, by all means, use it, have fun. That is ultimately what matters. Just be humble enough to realize it is a OP tool that means you probably aren’t as good as you may think you are, even if you win a lot of 1 v X.
K enough trolling. Here’s what I think:
A crutch is the stick which a disabled person uses to allow him or her to do things in their daily lives. It can be implied as the thing which is the main support of a build. In a shatter build, the actual ‘crutch’ is not Stealth, not Deceptive Evasion, but Illusionary Persona. Another example could be Lockdown mesmer, ehich the ‘crutch’ is Chaotic Interruption. So, isn’t the ‘crutch’ what makes a build a build?
And to reply to the topic of the OP : Decoy is useful in many builds, but definately nit necessary. It all depends on the build and playstyle, or other sources of defence e.g. MoD with CS/CI.

Refer to this guide, which is stickied in the mesmer subforum

Hmm is it just my misunderstanding or did you not use your F1? It is your main source of s
pike damage, after all the build is called a Shatter build

Would love to have an invite(NA)

Illusion of Life used on the thread, gonna drop dead again soon :P

Hmm can’t speak much personally, but I can give out some facts about mesmer.
Mesmers are a little weird on the condition cleansing side. With traits and skills, they can remomve condis as much as a guardian. However, that would require you to sacrifice an important utility suck as blink or decoy. So basically, either you get a llt of condi clear, or little to no at all. Though most of the time Mantra of Resolve should be enough.
Mesmers definately have much more incombat mobiloty and positioning via blinks from staff, sword and the utility, or via stealth, and even portal. However, their out of combat mobiloty is kind of horrid, with no out of combat movement speed buffs, and a low uptime on swiftness. Though this problem can be offset by centaur runes or travelers, tho i wpuldnt pick any of those too often. Rangers definately have more ooc mobility.
Also Rangers should have an easier time leveling compared to mesmer, since mesmers are so trait dependant, and some of the most valuable traits are either master or grandmaster.

Swish.2463:

Pro Tip, Ether Feast is the Default Healing skill for Mesmers, its already unlocked.

Basic leveling in PvE – Bring a Sword main hand, maybe a GS or a staff as a secondary. Dont ever pick up a scepter until you hit 80 and can build to effectively just do condition damage in a PvP setting.

Locate a Phantasm Build on the Forum and focus on only unlocking the traits for that (provided your stuck in the NPE trait hunt garbage) Ignore the others until you reach 80.

Grab Blink, put it on your bar, never take it off <3

Don’t worry about dieing, worry more about learning basic combos and Timings on things. Things like using Gs2 while close to a foe to stack might before shattering, using Sword 3 to set up Sword 2, using Sword 2 to avoid getting hit, When and how often Phantasms attack.. etc..

FYI for a couple months(idk i think since the sep feature pack) classes start out with different healing skills. I know so far that war starts with Healing Signet, Eles have their signet, Mesmer has Mirror, necro with the well

Vieux P.1238:

Why? nobody use it b4 as it was…. & even less as it is. My suggestion, remove it & replace it with something new & useful. This game has a lot of un-useful fluff for traits, skill & others… time to clean the garbage out. Replace by new & innovative stuff that will make players go WoW!!!

Why would you want players go to World of Warcraft :c

Imo nobody even uses mimic for pvp currently.

I’ll test ur build after i get home, see if theres anything i can change

I believe celesial stats doesn’t work that well with shatter, as most celesial builds rely on constant pressure, while shatter is for a quick burst

You can also try out a Pistol Condi phantasm build. There are many variations of this build. You can refer to this thread
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Gs-Sc-P-2-builds-OMFG-testers/first#post4513625
Scroll down the page, and you’ll find a few more builds other than the first 2 in the first post.

frifox.5283:

Assuming everything is ascended, zerk has 342 more power than sinister. How much % that would be will depend on your might stacks and your build.

Anyways, did some calc for a condi build (0/4/6/0/4, staff, 3 clones up):

• 4,612 dps – Berserker
• 5,380 dps – Rampager
• 5,752 dps – Rabid
• 6,070 dps – Sinister

And for a power build (6/4/0/0/4, sword aa, 2x Swordsmans + 1x Duelist)

• 5,869 dps – Berserker
• 5,843 dps – Assassins
• 4,756 dps – Sinister

All calc assume solo situations. Looks like Sinister is the “zerk” of the condi build – glassy as ****** but delivers awesome dps output.

Might be interesting, but it relies alot on clones to do damage, and do reach that dps there must only be you, one single enemy and 3 clones, or else the staff attacks might bounce to other allies.

Zyxith.9328:

What if I went with Staff for PvE and Scepter for PvP? Peeked in the game and some guildmates said I should be fine teaming, I just won’t be all about DPS. Surely there are other roles one can play besides DPSing stuff.

As Fay said, you should be providong utility while DPSing, and not just utility. However, a staff sc/t build not only has little damage, it also gives very little utility(or you can say selfish) other than chaos storm.

Zyxith.9328:

I guess I got confused then, because I had a friend say I would be fine. Is Mesmer that difficult to play with a simple set of weapons? I had a level 80 Ele and I only really used Staff and Scepter/Focus and I only had one set of armour and seemed to have done fine, so are Mesmers really that different from like.. Ele?

Well, it is very hard to compare mesmers and eles. Since for ANY of ele’s weapon can be played in either a condi damage or power damage due to be able to swap to different attunements, any weapon could do quite decently. Mesmers however, many weapons are exclusively power or condi, such as staff and scepter .

Carighan.6758:

Eh, BI is not a GM trait. You take it on the Master-slot so you can take either PU or CI on the GM-slot.

We’re talking about Bountiful Disillusionment not Bountiful Interruption. Opsie!

Stubie.5834:

Didn’t we already cover that I decided to go with a S/S GS build? Lol you two are a cute couple. I would like to thank Miku for the nice post and good read though.

So, this is how this thread goes:
1. You’re trying to find a staff/sc condi build for dungeons
2. Miku telling you to follow the general meta builds and explain why they’re effective
3. You’re still insisting on using staff/sc build
4. Pyro further explains why the meta build is better
5. Trying to prove that condi builds arent useless in dungeons
6. Pyro’s IRL example, therefore explaining party role(do dps)
7. You getting upset that no one gives you a non-effective build you want
8. – 11……….
12. Suddenly saying that condi builds are bad.
13. Another IRL situation
14. Saying that you don’t even run condi mesmer in dungeons.
15 & 16. Both showing confusing on what you wanted to do. First you want staff scepter, then saying condi is bad, then saying you dont run condi
17. To respond, you can do well with any build openworld, but you’re not gonna do damage in dungeons with whatever build. Why bother running dungeons if you’re using a selfish condi build?
18. A rough ingame proof
19. Suddenly saying that you’re running the meta build already and then laughing at the people trying to persuade you not to run condi

Whaaaa???

Stubie.5834:

I haven’t ran him through any dungeons.

Then you should, and you’ll know why staff and scepter is bad. AA hits for like 200-500 with an ultra slow chain, condi ticks for barely 1k

Stubie.5834:

I understand what you’re saying. That isn’t the topic of this thread. We can agree to disagree and get back on topic if you don’t mind. It looks as no one has a build to share though and my searches have come up dry with any build not from 2013 lol. That might be telling in itself.

It’s not a personal opinion on whether condi is good or not, it’s a universal fact that it sucks for dungeons.
Edit: Grammar stuff

I accidentally used a very hard to get artificer recepie on my mesmer, which only has Weapon smith and tailor. However, I do have artificer in my guardian. Does this mean that i need to learn artificer in my mesmer?

Tried out bonti rup, actually pretty fun + that might tho

I like to switch out chaos line completely, and put them into Domination for 15% more damage and Mender’s purity.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNAR7fl0npRtlpxBNcrRiqxcqmQZXpRqAKdHbPAA-TZRFwAAeAAIOCAKuIAp2fwaZAA
It focuses a lot more on phantasms rather than interrupt
Edit: You can swap around Duelist’s discipline and deceptive evatsion
DOUBLE EDIT*crycryvry*

Because you can retrait on the go, many pre april patch builds arent used anymore and now we tend to trait for more specific encounters. Also now Non PU condition mesmers are alot more viable in WvW and open world

HOWEVER.... If that was the case with me, I’d beat him up till he begs for mercy MUHAHHAHA

No offence to real ranger players ^^

IF im not mistaken, posting screenshots with the IGN of another player is againts the rules of most games, so plz blur or cover the name immidiately

IGN : rainpool.7189
Server: Ferguson’s Crossing
Role : scholar
I do mostly pve, but i love wvw roaming, but sadly im bad at it