Guild Wars 2

I just changed my password today and never received an email response that it was changed. Was I supposed to be notified if my account had a recent password change? I thought this was a security thing. My account has email authentication.

StevenMah.9854:

Guys, if your expectations are that high, start paying $30 a month, or else please appreciate what ANet has done and stop complaining that much. They obviously don’t have to bring out new contents in such a short time.

My expectations aren’t high, but when they say they are adding “new gathering resources” and only add one type when they insinuate there would be more than one, well then I have a right to be disappointed. Free content or not, and on what planet are you from where MMO’s have 30$ per mo. subscriptions?

“Face a brand-new species, earn unique rewards, gather new crafting resources, learn new recipes, and much more! Lost Shores will change the face of Tyria—don’t miss it!”

This is a quote from their page on lost shores on the home page. New crafting resources, plural, but the only new crafting resource I am seeing is for cooking, and its level 50 passion fruits. Is that it or is there a new type of ore node or logs? I feel like I was led to believe there would be more than that. Perhaps new crafting recipes for weaponsmith using new ores or logs, but just passion fruit is that it? Thats a bit disappointing really. It also says learn new recipes, what new recipes? The ones for cooking using a lvl 50 passionfruit? Is that it?

Yeah feeling just a little let down tbh.

Dogblaster.6713:

Have you played Lineage, Arion, etc?

You had to farm 1000000 mobs to drop rare recipe, you had to farm 1000 hours so you can craft something that didnt even crit and you had to start again. That made those things rare when somene achived them.

I know these are one of those most grindy mmorpgs. But if you ask me If I want something like world of warcraft, casual and simple mmorpg, where everyone is entitled to everything or someting like Aion, lineage. I would never pick up World of Warcraft again.

Legendary and rare weapons should take months, years to obtain. But when you obtain you never take them off. Its something you cherish, someting you are kitten proud off and when you have them, the whole server remebers your nickname.
But if players wants Legendaries, or really rare weapons like Mjolnir to take about few weeks, month to obtain. I am okey with that, I will just play Elder scrolls online.

I agree with more spots where to farm lodestones, etc. But grind is huge part of mmopgs.

Yes I have played those games and also FFXI, Arion did you mean Aion? I am thrilled for your desire to grind in MMO’s, but a great many players dont share your desire of insane grind festing. Also for the sake of argument how is having to raid for months to get a full set of Tier gear or even a legendary in wow entitlement? See a-net themselves said this MMO wouldn’t be a grindfest hence this discussion. I dont think people are totally against grinding its just that its really excessive, for a non-legendary item.

kRiza krimos.1637:

Only problem with whole legendary weapons matter is that kids today want it all and now. Legendary weapon is meant to be crafted for months, slowly gathering and meeting requirements. What is legendary about one week of grinding and coming out with most valued item in game?
That said, idea was not to grind your brains out getting lodestones but to do events, dungeons and other profitable stuff, gathering wealth and getting them by trade aswell as drops from adventuring.
Another thing that is stoping most players to enjoy game is korean grindfest mentality: “If i grind hard and long i will make it faster, I also deserve it more because i grinded 10 straight hours!” False.
Anet said they want to discourage grinding. If you are not discouraged to grind those lodestones by horrific drop rates, but instead think you need to grind even more, then you have some issues to resolve.
Also, its not drop rates that forces players to buy gold from sites, its lazyines and impatience, paired with fact that they probably didnt lift a finger to earn that money.

I am guessing you didnt really read this thread and just posted based on your own assumptions? You say most people dont want to grind, but should grind dynamic events for gold to buy them. How is this different? How much gold do you think 350 charged lodestones costs in the TP? How long just grinding DE’s for the gold would that take? For just 1 non-legendary weapon. You think people being upset by this are impatient kids, really? Your poorly thought out post lacking any critical thinking makes you sound like a kid.

See most people aren’t really that pissed about the lodestone requirement for legendaries thats expected, the real problem lies with a great many of the other unique weapons like the mjolnir that I linked to. You went on to say that its not the drop rates that drives people to buy gold from gold sellers its laziness? So for a non-legendary you think its ok farming and getting maybe 1 lodestone per hour for a non-legendary that requires 350 of them is ok, or is it just people being lazy? 350+ hours of farming mobs, DE’s or whatever for just 1 non-legendary weapon? People who are farming this much are going for a legendary not a non-legendary so yeah no, no one could be ok with that, because that is just an exercise in masochism.

I have been farming corrupted lodestones in frostgorge usually about a couple hours a day for about a week now and have only gotten 16 of them, and I have bought a few too. Its really unacceptable. The amount needed for the corrupted weapons is doable at 20-30 a weapon but the amount needed for a mjolnir and many of the other weapons is just ridiculous and I just wont even bother.

I am at the point now where I have a few armor sets and weapons from dungeon running and am not willing to grind for months to get named weapons so I think I might be close to being done for a while unfortunately.

There are a couple weapons I would like to make but due to the insane lodestone requirements I wont even bother. This is a great example of the unrealistic lodestone recipe.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mjolnir

This recipe takes 350 lodestones. 100 for the gift of lightning and 250 for the recipe. Thats just nuts. I mean its a cool looking hammer but kitten thats a bit excessive, the 250 ori bars and the bolts of gossamer will take quite a while to get by itself. Something needs to be changed about this.

Nuka Cola.8520:

And why exactly whould any1 even bother killing them? Anet made sure to not include a SINGLE skin worth farming in any dungeons the game has.

I will tell you why, because that is the design of the dungeon, if you dont it like then running dungeons is probably not for you, thats how all dungeons in MMO’s are designed. Have you never ran dungeons in any other MMO ever? Personally I like alot of the skins for tokens from dungeons, which makes them worth running, everthing else you get in them is gravy, and they even just added a karma reward as well.

Asagi.1405:

Lucas Ashrock.8675:

No you’re not alone. I still hope on every patch an end of skipping runs with an unremovable way to force players to kill ALL before continue on next area.

Nobody’s stopping you from killing each and every mob to your heart’s content. Kindly don’t impose your arrogant appeal to tedium on the rest of us.

You know whats more tedious? Having skipped a large portion of mobs and then having players die on a boss and not being able to run back cause they cant get past the mobs that were skipped, this happens alot in TA. Its a hell of a lot more tedious than actually having killed the mobs.

Besides lately it seems these mobs are dropping alot of blues and greens which is money. Please tell me what MMO you have ever played where they made the trash mobs in a dungeon actually worth killing? Other MMO’s just have really long leashes on the trash mobs making you kill them, your arrogance in expecting more from simple trash mobs like high rare drops or more money is laughable and wont happen……If you don’t like to kill the trash mobs as the developers intended then don’t run the dungeons, simple. Don’t impose your arrogant appeal in expecting players to just skip trash mobs all the time, because most people don’t like to do that for the reason I stated above.

However, the HP of all mobs in dungeons seems a tad high at the moment, not unreasonably high but could be adjusted, which is easily fixable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craps#Optimal_betting
Sorry, it is you who has no idea what they are talking about. No casino game favours the player, they all favour the house. However, they make the chances slim enough on some games for you to think that you have a chance to win, thus keeping you in the casino and your money flowing in to their vault.

www.fastodds.com/game_odds

Oh hey look here is another web page……you seriously take info on Wikipedia at face value? wow. Just because its on the internet it must be true >.> .The thing is craps on that page are showing lowest house edge, showing it to be the most in the players favor. You obviously have never played black jack or poker or you would know that player skill > house edge. I have made more money off of black jack than I have lost and I have played quite a bit.

Sorry to be off topic a little but gambling in this game is far different and way worse than a casinos odds, and i hate to see players making uninformed comparisons.

No gambling favors the player. That is why casinos can stay in business.

Seems like you are one of people I mentioned who has never gambled or been in a casino, did you know that craps odds are actually in the players favor? No? Yeah didn’t think so.

I love how people just throw the term gambling around and compare this type of gamble to casinos, makes me think that most of you probably A) aren’t old enough to even gamble or B ) have never stepped foot in a casino. See the odds are usually pretty decent on most games in a casino especially black jack, and particularly poker which requires more skill than luck and that’s the biggest form of gambling. That’s what makes gambling in a casino fun, this type of gambling with these types of odds, not so much, hence why people are so bitter.

Long term gambling in a casino favors the casino, short term gambling and knowing when to quite while you are ahead is in the players favor, hence why casinos always do great business. If all games in a casino had the same odds as the BLC’s do they would go out of business really fast.

I don’t know if there is a DR on the chest because I have run the dungeon about 10 times over the past 2 days and didn’t get anything good at all which is pretty annoying when i see everyone else getting a bunch of exotics, in fact one of the runs I got a couple of moldy bags. I was trying not to abuse the system like so many others do, considering this though I have no reason to run this event anymore at all. However there is definitely a DR on the personal trick or treat bags and the silver you get on completion.

It has DR on the personalized tot bags and silver so I would say no.

Yeah i just ran it 3 times in a row now and didn’t get squat, like 3 greens 2 random white bags with nothing in them and some candy corns. I am thrilled there are so many people getting exotics, but once again i am shafted. What a joke. I also noticed DR on my 3rd run, so I think I am done with this. Oh and btw the crappy 10 slot bag is soul-bound and was smaller than all the bags I am currently using……………………..Extremely disappointing.

This is precisely why I haven’t spent another dime on this game, I totally saw this coming. A-nets business practices repulse me. Unless they change their stance on these kinds of things I will continue to not spend any money, due to not wanting to support this kind of business practice, and also the consistent bugs in the game just not being fixed after months. Once these things, if ever, are remedied then I will be happy to support them.

Ok cool, the town where my ISP’s DNS server changed to was about 50 miles further than the on one I was currently accessing. There were no emails until I tried to log in, which made me think it was an IP address change from my ISP. I just never noticed it happening until you guys implemented your email authentication.

So I tried to log into my account today and it said there was an attempted log in from a different location, it told me this and made me wait until I allowed the access from the email sent at that moment. Why did this happen, should I be worried, or did my dynamic IP address supplied via my ISP’s dns server change and now I had to re-authenticate my account? Due to the way dynamic addressing happens I now how to re-authenticate every so often when my ISP decides to change my IP address, how will I know this is what happened or if it was a hacker attempt?

Corpus.5347:

seventhson.6932:

necro is fine nothing game breaking to complain about

Yeah nothing wrong with the broken pet A.I. you right.

His right what?

Really? Him thinking he is right about nothing game breaking about necro’s, because guess what, broken pet AI is broken. /boggle

I don’t believe you are a competitive player at all possante. Not even for a instant.
Necromancer have two extremely effective builds in tPvp and one decent build.
Both conditionmancer and bunker build are AMAZING as a necromancer.
What do guardians use as a bunker build? Boons, protection and retaliation to be more specific. Walls. Knockdowns. Knockbacks. Heals.
What do necromancers use as a bunker build? Anti-Boons, protection, life force, chill, fear, Anti-conditions, blind, heals.
The bunker necromancer is the anti-bunker guardian. If you don’t know that you don’t tpvp. A bunker necromancer effectively has three health bars. One for death shrouding right away, one his actual health bar and one for a second death shroud. When he elites theres no way a melee can kill him with blind spam and hes not considered immortal so you still can cap points in cloud form. In ranged theres no way a condition build can kill a necromancer, a necromancer has THREE ways to transfer conditions. Not REMOVE them but TRANSFER them. Condition builds are vast because its the easiest way to take down a bunker guardian.

Not everyone plays this game to tpvp, unlike you, our world doesn’t revolve around gw2 tpvp. There are many other facets to this game that have to be considered when balancing a profession. And in some regards our class is lacking in other aspects of the game.

necro is fine nothing game breaking to complain about

Yeah nothing wrong with the broken pet A.I. you right.

All good, I reported it early this morning and still no other response about it so, my guess is they will just write it off, pro customer service. I also reported in game last night and I honestly don’t think that tool even works.

Now be patient and wait a few days. This is only an automated message, someone from the support will reply to you soon. You didn’t had to send a message replying to an.. automated message.. :/
Lol at raging at an automated message.

You didnt even read the message did you, it went wooosh right over your head. The reason i posted it was that it wasn’t even related at all to the issue i submitted. Why would I wait days on an incorrect reply from this system? And by the way I am not raging, I am showing the huge gap in their customer support system, and that I wont spend money to support this.

I posted this in the bug forum as well, but there doesnt seem to be any general customer support forum here so I am posting this here as well. Ticket # 121015-001597

So I sent in this issue to the support area, my question was this…..
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My group and I completed Ascalonian catacombs last night and were not credited with completion we killed the patriarch and then nothing happened, the dungeon was clearly fully completed. We did not get tokens, silver, or experience. I would like to be reimbursed for the 60 dungeon tokens, 26 silver and however much experience. Many people are having this issue at the moment.

The reply that was emailed to me was this…….

Hello,

Thank you for contacting Guild Wars 2 Support! You’re receiving this automated message based on information provided in your original submission indicating that the information below may resolve the issue.

Do you see 3 points in your Hall of Monuments?
Please note that some players may be seeing 3 points in the rewards calculator, however, you will not be able to use the Hall of Monuments unless you have applied Guild Wars Eye of the Northto your original Guild Warsaccount.

Missing Rewards
There are several issues that could affect your ability to gain access to your Hall of Monument rewards. The most common issues are as follows:
Your Guild Wars 2 account is not properly linked to the appropriate Guild Wars account.
Instructions on how to link your accounts can be found here: http://en.support.guildwars2.com/app/answers/list/kw/8961
Your Guild Wars 2 account is linked to a banned Guild Wars account.
You have not logged into Guild Wars 2 and received a Portal Stone from Scornheart who is located at Hooligan’s Route in Lion’s Arch.
You have not logged into Guild Wars 2 and talked to Kimmes.
Kimmes The Historian is an NPC located in the Hall of Monuments and you can access him by using your Portal Stone.
You have not logged into the original Guild Wars and visited the Hall of Momuments.

Make sure that you have completed all of the steps above as they are all necessary to resolve this issue.

If these suggestions do not address the issue that you’re experiencing, please reply with the following information and we’ll be happy to investigate further:
The account (login) name of your original Guild Wars account which has the desired Hall of Monuments.
The account (login) name of your Guild Wars 2 account on which you want to receive the Hall of Monuments.
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Something is seriously wrong with your customer service in this game, there is no general customer service forum, there seem to not be any GM’s, no number to call as if it would matter anyways, or anything else besides submitting a ticket which I did and that’s what I got. Its absolutely atrocious.

I replied to this message hours ago re-stating my issue and have not gotten another reply. So whats the deal with this? If this isn’t dealt with and I don’t receive the marks I should’ve gotten yesterday but didn’t due to YOUR dungeon being bugged and glitchy, then I am not gonna spend another dime in this game, and I will tell my family/friends to do the same. I dont like wasting my time and I certainly dont like being yanked around.

So I sent in this issue to the support area, my question was this…..My group and I completed Ascalonian catacombs last night and were not credited with completion we killed the patriarch and then nothing happened, the dungeon was clearly fully completed. We did not get tokens, silver, or experience. I would like to be reimbursed for the 60 dungeon tokens, 26 silver and however much experience. Many people are having this issue at the moment.

The reply that was emailed to me was this…….

Hello,

Thank you for contacting Guild Wars 2 Support! You’re receiving this automated message based on information provided in your original submission indicating that the information below may resolve the issue.

Do you see 3 points in your Hall of Monuments?
Please note that some players may be seeing 3 points in the rewards calculator, however, you will not be able to use the Hall of Monuments unless you have applied Guild Wars Eye of the Northto your original Guild Warsaccount.

Missing Rewards
There are several issues that could affect your ability to gain access to your Hall of Monument rewards. The most common issues are as follows:
Your Guild Wars 2 account is not properly linked to the appropriate Guild Wars account.
Instructions on how to link your accounts can be found here: http://en.support.guildwars2.com/app/answers/list/kw/8961
Your Guild Wars 2 account is linked to a banned Guild Wars account.
You have not logged into Guild Wars 2 and received a Portal Stone from Scornheart who is located at Hooligan’s Route in Lion’s Arch.
You have not logged into Guild Wars 2 and talked to Kimmes.
Kimmes The Historian is an NPC located in the Hall of Monuments and you can access him by using your Portal Stone.
You have not logged into the original Guild Wars and visited the Hall of Momuments.

Make sure that you have completed all of the steps above as they are all necessary to resolve this issue.

If these suggestions do not address the issue that you’re experiencing, please reply with the following information and we’ll be happy to investigate further:
The account (login) name of your original Guild Wars account which has the desired Hall of Monuments.
The account (login) name of your Guild Wars 2 account on which you want to receive the Hall of Monuments.

Something is seriously wrong with your customer service in this game, there is no general customer service forum, there seem to not be any GM’s, no number to call as if it would matter anyways, or anything else besides submitting a ticket and thats what I got. Its absolutely atrocious. I replied to this message re-stating my issue. So whats the deal with this? If this isn’t dealt with and I don’t receive the marks I should’ve gotten yesterday but didn’t due to YOUR dungeon being bugged and glitchy, then I am not gonna spend another dime in this game, and I will tell my family/friends to do the same. I dont like wasting my time and I certainly dont like being yanked around.

My biggest issue is that I really dont think anyone will get reimbursed for anything if they completed the dungeon properly but didnt get credit for completion or rewards. I mean are there even GM’s in this game at all? Which is just not ok, I really dont like to waste my time. A proper response is needed.

My party and I just fully completed path 1 in AC and it seemed bugged and wouldnt complete, not giving us the tokens, silver or the exp. We spent over an hour in there and I am really hoping we get credited the rewards for this. I also reported this ingame. What is the deal with the bugs in this game at the moment, its exhausting.

Also is this the right place to ensure that I get compensated for the rewards due and not received or is there another place to submit something?

Arreyanne.2683:

Since the change with 6 character’s 2 80’s and the rest spread between 21-54 I have gotten 5 vanilla beans.

the drop rate on this item atrocious period

Yeah i completely agree with this, also I have run around metrica province and brisbane many times totally wasting my time (thanks anet) and haven’t gotten squat for vanilla beans. So don’t just say “oh go farm the lowbie areas”, NO, not everyone is as lucky as some of you special snowflakes. Nor should I have to waste my time doing it.

Hippocampus.8470:

There’s already a thread from someone who recently got Dawn.

And if it is indeed a thousand rares on average before getting a precursor, then I’d say 300g is just about exactly right. Anything lower means it’s underpriced.

If Anet expects people to craft/buy around 1000 lvl 78+ exotics to get these precursors then thats just wrong on so many levels. I wont even mention putting rares in because the chance is probably even smaller with those.
Here is the real kicker, ectoplasms are completely sold out on the TP. Period. How would they expect people to mass produce the quantities of exotics just to get one precursor? Not enough exotics drop from mobs and are sold on the TP for someone to even buy them all up. This seems totally broken and for people to assume that over 1000 exotics is an ok amount are delusional.

Signet of Forums.4397:

Consumable buffs rarely sell very well in MMOs. When they do, it usually means they are deemed necessary somehow by some players, and I definitely don’t want that.

Wow you are way off on this assumption. Consumable buffs have been a big moneymaker in every MMO i have played that has cooking. FFIX for one, WOW.

Yeah i agree with above posters the vanilla bean is ridiculously rare for what it is, herb seedlings are few and very far between, and then there is the RNG. I dont like to waste my time in MMO’s, at all. This needs a fix like yesterday………

People skip trash whenever possible because 1.) its tedious 2.) they have alot of health making it even more tedious 3.) there’s no real reward for killing them so why waste time (its tedious)
Easy fix. Small, random chance trash will drop say…. 1 token here or there

You know whats “Tedious”? When some players cant seem to be able to run past the mob packs and live but their team just keeps on going, and then the player that died just cant get past those mobs alone so the team has to wait making it not a speed run anymore (which is really dumb to begin with) or continue without them. That just sucks and it happens alot.

What you suggest as an easy fix is a poor suggestion to stop this behavior, what the devs need to do is take the leash off the trash packs so you cannot run past them and have to stop and deal with them. Oh i am sorry if the dungeon is taking too long for you, if you dont like it dont run them, Because guess what the devs didnt intend for you to just skip content.

Nethelli.4023:

Stobor.8041:

They’ve already said blatant “speed runs” of like 15 minutes are gunna punish you.

The kitten is that , if i can run in 15 min why shouldn’t I ?

There once was a kindergarten teacher beloved by her class. One day, she gave her students paper and crayons and told them to draw whatever they wanted. The children were thrilled, and set to work drawing, and it was pretty great.

A short time later, while most of the children were still hard at work drawing their lopsided houses and stick figure families, the teacher noticed a few children wandering around the classroom looking bored. She asked them why they weren’t at their desks, and the children replied, “We finished our drawings”.

The teacher looked over the childrens’ artwork. It was as good as anyone else’s, but she couldn’t accept that the children were able to accomplish the task she set for them in such a short amount of time, so she sent them to time out.

The children didn’t understand why they were being punished for doing what they had been told, and they grew to resent the teacher for a punishment that they considered unfair.

And then the rest of the half-baked metaphor goes here.

I like this, and to be honest the part about the students resenting the teacher is spot on. Simple psychology. I think most of us know what the result of resentment is right?

we’re aware of this issue, and today’s patch should see improved reliability in the DR system.

That’s not very reassuring, you don’t sound convinced.

Striata.6739:

captcha if this is implemented I’m done and I’ll be done with ALL Arena Net games in the future I’m sick and god kitten tired of being punished because YOU Arena Net let the botting population become greater then the actual live population!!!!!!!!!!!

Borlis Pass is pathetic events in Cursed Shore are either bugged to all hell or there’s so many bots at the working events with AoE you cant even tag a kittening mob. The mobs are like snowmen running into a 750 degree furnace there none existent!

I have this exact experience and I am sick of it, I like getting drops off event mobs too, some of us legit players want salvaged ectos too you know……..

Ruien.9506:

This was released more than 2 weeks ago. Bots are actively teleporting to resource nodes and mobs and flying orbs out of castle in WvW. The game is almost completely hacked at this point. Only thing so far that isnt is user account database. Only a matter of time tho so take those CC cards off your gem account.

And how exactly do you know this? Obviously you go to/run these questionable web sites that offer these hack progams, otherwise how the hell would you know? You should be banned on the spot.

The necro is def fun to play, but there are quite a few things that need to be fixed and or improved upon. Lets not delude ourselves here.

Necro was overpowered pretty much always in GW1. I think this is their way of balancing that. :P

Of course cause that totally makes sense………

To be honest I am just starting to think that a-net just doesnt care about the necro, why is it that pet caster classes always suck in MMO’s? I dont get it, its like some kind of stigma.

Well the DR is certainly a band aid. But, whats worse about it is its a broken band aid for broken dungeons. Considering how top notch most of this game is I am really surprised by these poor dungeon designs, and instead of fixing them they put a band aid on the situation, using band aids as a solution in business is never a good idea, ever.

Zale.9645:

There are numerous ways they could make this work much better. They could reduce the spawn rate to only one silver at a time. Or they could could spawn a mob pack and have only one of them as silver. Or even just spawn enormous waves of non-silvers. But fast waves of multiple silvers are not possible to fight head on. It’s sad ArenaNet will not admit this and it’s the reason people exploit the encounter.

Not only this but what does it matter if the packs spawning are insane or more manageable? Most groups just kite them anyways, 2 mins is 2 mins at least make it a more enjoyable 2 mins.

A bit of misinformation I am seeing in the threads is that if you complete a single dungeon in ten minutes, we’re going to punish you for it, as though we are punishing you for being “too good” at it. This is not true.
Our DR system combats repeated runs, and has a global presence as well effecting other dungeons. So if you run multiple 10 minute dungeons, back to back then you are going to get hit with the DR system no matter which paths you choose.
However the notion that your group will be punished for clearing any single dungeon in any amount of time is incorrect. Running through multiple speed clears back to back will result in the DR system influencing your rewards.

Sorry Mr. Hrouda but I have run back to back TA dungeon runs on different paths with each run taking a little over a half hour, and on my second run through I got 45 marks…….so are you saying that half hour is too fast? Or just around ten minutes like you said in the quote here, because there seems to be some contradiction here. I am confused.

Figment.9356:

Need to take leashing off in dungeons or something.

Yes they really do, it would alleviate alot of issues, particularly the time it takes to complete a dungeon which seems to be bothering a-net alot lately…….is it really a hard thing to do?

Jaha.2840:

Can anyone confirm if the necromancer ability Well of Corruption works to counter his regen buff and turn it into conditions?

No it does not work that way. That would totally trivialize it.

The bottom line is they just don’t have any idea or “thoughts outside the box” to fix these dungeons, so I have a suggestion to alleviate people speed running these dungeons. Take the leash off your trash mobs so people actually have to fight them and cant just run past them, if the players couldn’t just run by these mobs it would take longer for the group to complete the dungeon which is what you guys want anyways. Simple. But here is some criticism I know you probably wont like it but your dungeon design is just poor in many ways, but your arrogance wont let you see it, I have yet to date seen a dungeon in any MMO that was this exploitable and poorly designed and or this buggy, and I been playing MMO’s for over 15 years.

Hawken.7932:

Agreed. It’s unbelievable the amount of complaining over this. No matter what they do, even if it’s diminishing your rewards by 50% each run (which it’s not)… ANY such system is still way, way more rewarding than a 24 lockout which most games have.

Tell me which MMO’s have a 24hr lockout on a standard 5 man dungeon? Cause guess what there arent any at all, 24hr lockouts are for raid dungeons with the BEST loot in the game, the loot you get from these dungeons is purely cosmetic, so stop comparing apples to oranges ok?

Kromica.2831:

@ref

Why? They already took away the gold and xp, taking the tokens just makes me not want to even run them.

I feel the same way. I am in a large guild and people rarely organize for these dungeons, and most players pugging them cant even accomplish completions for most of the paths so I am feeling like my dungeon running experiences are over for the time being.

Yeah i just got out of a group that tried to do this boss and we couldnt even get his hp down below 85%, and were dpsing the crap out of him. We saw that the crystals were regening him so we tried to kill them but he just threw more out right away, honestly this sucked. One person got fed up, the party leader, and when he left group we all got booted from the dungeon, game over. Wow just wow. Oh and did i mention we got nothing but large repair bills for that run……..

Did all three paths just now, no problems anywhere.

care to enlighten us how you kill this path 1 boss at the end? Cause I call BS on this.

I got into a group that decided to do path 1, we did fine until we got to the last boss and we couldn’t even get his HP down to 80%, I guess we were doing it wrong but i don’t know, we were dps’ing the crap out of him too. People just got fed up and left so we got 0 but a big repair bill for this. I really want to run other paths in dungeons but this is just ridiculous, and not fun at all.

Korago.7509:

seventhson.6932:

Korago.7509:

Farm DEs in Cursed Shore. I made the 100g I needed for my set in less than a week doing that. Totally worth it.

Idk how you figure that, the armor doesnt even look that great and its rare, not exotic…..

1: It looks great, I don’t know what set you’re looking at. 2: No one would farm for T3 cultural armor for the stats.

All the asuran cloth armor sets are lousy looking. I wouldnt spend a copper or karma for them.

Eochaidh.4106:

@seventhson
People do it for the skins, not the stats. The price is fine, it’s an armor of prestige.

Like i said they arent that great looking.