Guild Wars 2

Yes it does but I recommend not transmuting your legendary today as you cannot buy splitters anymore and you will be able to use the skin and such on any other weapon of that type come tomorrow patch time.

Astraea.2981:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

Astraea.2981:

Will these refunds be in Gems only, or will I be able to get my actual money back?

Gems only….

I believe this is 2 fold: people can buy gems with gold, but also because you bought gems, and not the items directly, they have no obligation to return money. It’s in the ToS. In addition I would caution against asking for money back because it can lead to you never being able to purchase gems again because Anet does not want to spend more money on charge backs.

You say that like it’s a bad thing. They talked me out of ever giving them any money again more than a year ago. At this point, blocking my right to buy gems would be like revoking my license to drive the Lunar Rover. If I have to jump through additional customer service hoops to extract my money from this failure parade, so be it.

More power to you then.

I personally adore supporting the gem store. I’m glad to buy the new stuff they put out weekly.

I run lowbie teaching fractals a whole lot, so add me and maybe sometime I can take you both along!

SkiTz.4590:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

A Massive Headache.1879:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

A Massive Headache.1879:

just throwing it out there, ascended armor.

I don’t understand why this keeps being thrown out here. You get ascended armor boxes as random rewards from pvp. And you can gather the materials to craft it in pvp as well. Or wvw. It is an armor set available in all game modes.

yeah, you know the rarity of those armor boxes from spvp? and from a box comes only one piece so, yeah, point is still valid. pve has more than enough features to it, pvp needs a ton of attention and the unique armor is a decent start.

I don’t think anyone is begrudging pvp having a unique only to them armor, but there is literally no good reason for pve and wvw not to have this same thing. Whether it’s rare or not, it’s still available. The pvp armor is only pvp (rightly so!) But there really ought to be an analog in wvw and pve. This should NOT be a pvp vs pve conversation. It should be a “let’s give everyone a little something to work on.” Conversation. A fractal (or some other high level pve content which Illudes me) armor set and a wvw armor set (I don’t wvw so I do not know what content is considered high skill or time consuming) would be a great solution. I don’t understand why this has turned into such a toxic conversation.

The reason is simple…PvP in gw2 is on life support, which is why anet is giving out a cash prize tourney and new shinies.. its easily the least popular mmode in this game (WvW, PvE being the others)… PvP NEEDS this kind of new rewards… PvE doesn’t… it has enough already, and 100% guaranteed they will continue to get more rewards down the road

Also, as many have stated, there is no prestigious content in PvE…It takes more skill to PvP and go against players that actual think compared to a group of brain dead zombies in PvE….You need prestigious content before you can give such prestigious rewards… which I think everyone would love to see in PvE

Hey okay, next time you’re on and I am too, let’s do some level 50 fractals No skill and all.

The clipping is hard to avoid. The outfit is just so large and ornate that it doesn’t fit the animations of most races. I don’t know what they could do to prevent the hair clipping without some intense changes to the shoulders or the hairstyles which… well both choices suck. The hands through the legs is… well a result of the outfit on the legs just being wide. You can’t change the human animations to prevent the clipping and you probably won’t redesign the armor.

It’s a consequence of large armor. It sucks, and certain clips can probably be fixes easily (like your norn’s butt clipping through) but most are really present in the whole game and are problems with most armors.

I like it a lot despite clipping. It dyes beautifully.

Great idea. +1

Also the possibility of separating friends into groups so you can mass message them for similar purposes while, say, not inviting one or 2 might be useful too.

Have you wanted that gorgeous Zodiac armor for months?

Have you tried and tried and tried to gather the necessary gold for a single armor piece?

Well fret no more.

There will be 3 winners. Each will receive the armor skin of their dreams. Lilith’s choice (ie, first place, will also receive a pack of transmutation charges).

Here’s the kicker. The 3 winners will have to be one of each armor weight.

Now what does this entail?

You must post 3 screen shots, in a dungeon, of your most fashionable light, medium, and heavy characters. They must be in 3 different dungeons (or fractals).

Q1; Lilith, can 1 person win all 3 prizes?
A1: Yes.

Q2; But, what if the same person wins all 3 prizes? That’s 3 armor sets!
A2: Yes.

Q3; do they have to be my characters?
A3: Yes.

Q4; Can the screens be edited by photoshop?
A4: Yes.

Okay guys no slacking here. I want to see this happen. I want beautiful shots. This contest ends May 23. Good luck, now wow me, sexies!

What does the fox say?
Ginggingginggingging ging ging!
What does the fox say?

(((I’m excited for the fox.
That was a haiku too!)))

I’m a #DubFanGurl so I’m so excited it hurtz.

For the record, I posted this thread first so why merge mine into that. And yes, I’ll be that petty.

SkiTz.4590:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

kylwilson.9137:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

kylwilson.9137:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

kylwilson.9137:

Suck it up and play the other third (extrapolation here I know) of the game.

You’ll only get better at the game as a whole for doing so.

Exclusive PvE’ers don’t deserve extra treatment on top of what exclusives you already have; the PvP community has gotten diddly-squat. Even in the sad state that it is in, PvP is the only actual demonstration of any level of player skill (yes we’re all aware that this is arguable but the general basis still stands); the solution? Play PvP and get better. You won’t regret it whatsoever and that’s a promise.

I assume some people are scared of their self-assumed skill at the game being disproved, but it’s happened to all PvP’ers at some point and it’s only done us good.

That being said I play both PvP and PvE in equal amounts (with my heart closest to PvP of course).

People like you need to stop making this pvp vs pve. It’s not a competition. Why can’t pve have an exclusive armor set? All the reasoning pvpers are giving is that pvp deserves it more. What the heck? Why does that matter?

No one thinks pvp shouldn’t have exclusive armor. No one. But this whole “I’m a pvper we get nothing!” Which isn’t true (WvW gets nothing and I’m not even biased, I only pve and I can see how little they get) should not be the reason pve doesn’t get a grind exclusive armor we can work on. I mean… why is this about pvp versus pve? Why are we fighting? That’s so stupid.

It’s the fact that people with this mindset are straight up ignoring a pretty…what’s the word…interesting part of the game entirely, instead of jumping in and participating. And the fact that you’re so kitten defensive about it all of a sudden only substantiates the fact that it is a PvE vs PvP thing. You’re digging your own hole, and you shouldn’t expect any sympathy with this kind of attitude of “PvP got it too so we also want it for PvE”. You have it already, and more.

Not in the form of armors, no we don’t.

I don’t want a pvp armor. I don’t like pvp, I don’t enjoy pvp, I don’t want an armor that is pvp exclusive because I don’t want people to think I like pvp.

I do want new armors that I can work toward and I’d love them to be a token system through fractals. Or an upgrade sort of deal like Mawdrey, through the most difficult pve content. Whether you think it is actually difficult, idgaf, and it is irrelevant.

It isn’t a pvp versus pve thing. You’re not using logic when you say that me saying that makes it a pvp versus pve thing. It isn’t.

I think there should be special armors that say “I am dedicated to pvp/wvw/high level pve.” Armors. Not weapons. PvP gets theirs first. Fine. But the OP and most who agree with the OP are asking anet to consider doing something similar for pve (and also many say wvw as well!) There is nothing wrong with this. Pvpers are coming in here and attacking everyone without justification. Just stop.

You skimmed over the section where I state that I play both equally, and yes my heart is closer to PvP, but that’s because I know how neglected it’s been for the past two years.

This is how life works: You don’t participate, you don’t get the reward you want. It is black and white. There is no grey in between. It’s never been a matter of PvP vs PvE. It’s a matter of playing the game to it’s fullest. It’s literally Occam’s razor here. That is the explanation.

Any other mindset is juvenile.

How is my not wanting a pvp exclusive armor juvenile? I don’t want a pvp exclusive armor. Do I need to say it again? I don’t want a pvp exclusive reward. I don’t want a pvp exclusive armor.

I would like to see anet introduce armor rewards for pve. There’s nothing wrong with that. How is my asking or wanting that juvenile and how is it that only pvp getting an exclusive reward “how life works”? I don’t want a pvp reward. They can keep the glorious armor and I don’t want it. I want a fractal armor set. That’s juvenile? That’s wrong? That’s not how life works?

What am I even reading now?

Because you keep saying I WANT… that’s just childish lol, grow up
Anet doesn’t have to give us anything, you can’t demand stuff.
Just accept whatever is being done right now and be content.
If they add prestigious PvE armor (which i’m sure they will), than you will get what you want, but you sound like a child , crying about something because you didn’t get what you wanted… World doesn’t work that way, you can’t demand things..just be happy with what’s given. It’s not the end of the world if you don’t immediately get what you want..

I’m saying I want it, not “Anet has to do this.”

Since when is asking for something childish?

I wanna see some epic dungeon screen shots. (Plus I have a prize I can’t give to its intended due to… reasons)

There will be only one winner.

Ends tomorrow.

Winner receives a free gw2 account code (digital)

Must be in a dungeon and must have a story.

Let’s go my dears!

Gogogogogogogo.

My sexy warrior? I don’t know about sexy but I like her!

joe.9815:

maybe a festivial ticket thing then and like 2k tokens

Maybe

Maybe it’ll come back or maybe it’ll become a helm skin.

Cynz.9437:

i got 2 skins after patch…. the drop rate is ridicilous low compared to prepatch

Well, they’re dropping like flies in 10-19 (see several Fractured! Threads). Which leads me to believe something screwy is going on. Before not a single person said they ever got a skin in that level. Now they say it was always super rare, and the patch has made more and more people get them in that level range.

Final rest, all over again, I think.

I can’t afford you but I wanted to drop by and say, wow, your art is beautiful!

The Berserker Chronicles

Baddy Zerker and the prisoner of the nightmare court

ps. We gotta stop stacking all this winning in one thread! It’s OP and ruining my posting skill

I’m literally about to throw my phone across the room. Can someone PLEASE help me explain to these dunderheads that they’re effing dumb

Due to some technical problem, no. Which doesn’t seem quite right, considering they could do something similar to the gathering tools with the npcs exchange, but it isn’t likely that they care enough to implement it. We didn’t buy the weapons with gems, right?

I’m sorry but having a dedicated healer or tank is in no way diverse. That’s in fact the opposite. That’s pigeon holing.

Hey there. I’m planning on running one or two fractals Friday on my EU account to prepare for level 80 (fractal rings and mist essences and PRL and all of that). I’m looking to get a group so we can do it, I’ll be on my level 30 something. I promise I’ll do okay and you can bring a lowbie too, it’s entirely doable I promise, I’ve done it on level 2s). I hope DeSade will tag along but at the moment I have 1 hopeful 1 maybe and a whole Lotta love to give to the folks willing to do it.

Let me know if you’re a definite. I will be doing this from 8:30 AM Friday (EST) Until about 12 PM, then I’ll be back from 1 PM until about 4PM. I’ll update the list.

AM fractal:
1. Lilith
2. Winterchillz?
3.
4.
5.

PM Fractal:
1. Lilith
2. Aphrodesiac
3. Azrael?
4. Taku?
5. Rasimir

Thanks I love you.

LittleLepton.8915:

Quickfoot Katana.8642:

If anyone wishes to contact me please send a mail as I’m forbidden to PM on forum.

name sugestion: We Teach How We Want [DM]

Despite the fact that I love the name I came up with, I really love this and I am mad I didn’t think of it.

In addition, we could do “We Teach How We Want” [Noob] because that might be fun. Idk just throwing out an idea,

Sanderinoa.8065:

Alice.8694:

The guy they fired, whose list of contributions to the game all seemed to kinda suck?

.

Nooooo! No disrespecting hrouda on the dungeon forums! This is a sin beyond belief!

If they ask for forgiveness they’ll have to recite the holy berserker prayer 10 times.

Someone link it.

nearlight.3064:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

I’m wondering which rare sword “Espadon” is.

espadon means swordfish in french… So I have no idea!

If there’s a swordfish greatsword in game, I need it. Lol

Aberrant.6749:

Not many people want to really spend like 1.5-2k gold on a joke >.>

Well, the Pony bow is sort of a joke legendary too. A lot of people like the joke. Maybe quip and the moot are bad jokes.

Calamity, I honestly don’t feel like you’re the boogie man or the worst poster to come here… but I do think it’s ridiculous how you think we should be doing more.

I mean… I get online on my NA account and I am inundated. Yes. Inundated. With messages. It’s rare that my inbox isn’t full … and I sign in every day. People need help. We are here to help. I don’t even really get to play the game my way when I sign on. Too many people. Too many questions.

It just annoys me. I don’t think you necessarily mean to sound like you do, but when you say we need to do more… well… I just think, maybe you should try what we all do and then see what it feels like to have someone say you aren’t doing enough. It’s hurtful. It’s unnecessary. We all have lives but we dedicate a significant chunk of it to this. Please, at the least, understand that.

Thank you kindly.

Turgut.4397:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

I didn’t know dungeons need a tank. #LearnNewThingsEveryDay

I dislike the trinity and very much like what anet has done to keep it out of their game. I like that I have options with each class. I’m glad that my guardian can be a DPS truck and a cleric (not that I would ever do that because why?) but I’m happy to have the option.

Playing how anyone wants is awesome. I’m sorry that without the trinity, however, you are not playing how you want. But trinity games are a dime a dozen, but there aren’t many like guild wars 2. And that’s nice.

There are different options for classes? The majority of dungeon groups only care about berserker stats, nothing else. The way these dungeons are designed and the lack of a trinity only makes ONE build viable for each class. Why bother going tank/healer when you can have 5 warriors hitting 2 on GS every 6 seconds?

Even GW1 had a class purely for healing, which meant problems in missions/dungons were solved and your entire team didn’t have to suffer the dreaded ‘wipe’ every 4 seconds because of the lack of an aggro system. There is no dedicated healing class in this game, which means 2 things in PvE:

• Dungeons are chaotic and the mobs/bosses are uncontrollable.
• Open world PvE such as boss events only require a ton of players spamming 1

Just because the trinity is used in many other MMOs doesn’t make it a bad thing to implement. Anet tried to be ‘original’ and took a step towards ‘Every class can do everything’ and that hasn’t worked. They tried to fix what isn’t broken, and they’ve pretty much destroyed the group system. To sum up PvE: Get zerker gear, spam 1, dodge when it’s required, spam 1 again, repeat.

Games like Rift have solved the problem of only 1 class for 1 role by making each class have multiple roles. Which I was hoping for in this game when I heard there was a trait system, but to my disappointment Anet has infact done the opposite and then removed the only class that was able to handle the chaos in groups.

I don’t really want to bash on the anti-trinity crowd, but dungeons are just not enjoyable when everyone is running one build, and that it’s the only accepted build in the majority of the playerbase.

‘Play the meta-builds like GW1’ – Guild Wars 2

I really don’t get your crowd. Go play a game that has the trinity, why is that so hard?

I don’t play the meta build, i make my own groups, no one cares. I roleplay and RP walk in dungeons, because they are my groups. Join better groups! There will always be a best group. There will always be a best build. But the wonder of gw2 is that you can do anything you want to, literally, and still complete the content.

Bearhugger.4326:

The armors in this game lack variety in general. You speak about armors for females as an exemple of variety but those lack variety just as much. I play a female warrior and if I wanted to look scantily clad my only option would be to look like a cave girl. And on the complete opposite, if you play a female caster and you DON’T want to be half-naked, well… that’s not happening.

If Anet’s artists are out of ideas they should hire some of the Skyrim modders on nexusmods. There are some really really cool and varied lore-friendly armors for both genders.

You confuse me.

1. She’s a cave woman? Nah.

2. She’s a skimpy mesmer? Nah.

3. She’s a cave woman? Nah.

4. Two Kormir light armor combos… skimpy? Hardly!

5. A couple skimpy males. No medium skimp. Sorry boys.

Edit: these are the examples I had handy on my phone. I could probably find better.

Yay ele is back to having no good elite skills.

But don’t get me wrong I do not think it was okay as is… but really. Might as well just slot elementals.

I do know that dungeon rewards are somewhat buggy so it’s possible people are waiting for the bugs to be fixed before going in and potentially wasting time.

my gold farming spot is going to work every day so I can afford to buy a few gold here and there.

Tuesdays generally have new items and lately Fridays have had week long discounts on things like armors and boosters and a while back introduced a gathering tool per week for… 9 weeks or so.

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Lilith Ajit.6173:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

Khisanth.2948:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

what is it with people and the school girl outfits? that’s just creepy and wrong….

Meh … much better looking than many of the light armor choices.

Not really, imo. I mean, yeah, the light armor needs help, but still… that’s just creepy.

Disagree. I want my little Asura to be like Hermione. Don’t kill my dreams!

Oh gosh that mental image is terrifying!

Terrifyingly cute.

dlonie.6547:

I actually agree with point one. They need to add some anti-stacking mechanics to Lupi.

For instance, what if he did some really high damage attacks, but only at melee range? You know, like kick or claw at them? And to drive home that players shouldn’t be stacking, the attacks could knock them back 300-600 units. “Go range, folks!” :-) Some adds that swarm the players while they’re knocked down and at like 10% health might be overkill, but ANet could add them if they really wanted to send a message.

Or a giant, like 600 radius area attack where he shoots a hundred of his projectile bolts at about 200 range? It should instadown any player who stays in it, or at least those zerkers (lol, they’re not even proper tanks with that gear, why should they get that close? That’s DPS gear!!). Make it have like a 0.15s tell so that those elitists that rely on abusing evades can’t just easily dodge out of it.

And to really make sure that nobody tries to stack, a giant (like 900 radius) PBAoE attack, powerful enough to down a zerkerburger, could pop up during the fight. To punish those “players” that just want to finish the runs fast instead of having fun, they could make the attack actually heal Lupi back up. I know, I know, I’m evil >:-) But that would just make those grievers who are ruining the game take longer! Man, I hate those guys. >.<

Maybe someone at ANet will read this and realize how easily they can keep cheaters from meleeing and using what they call “combos” (bugged interactions between skills that somehow give them more damage) to exploit Lupi, and finally implement some of these ideas!

Hire this man.

….LOL

Hrouda ily.

dlonie.6547:

So joining a seller’s run, demanding “cash or kick”, then stealing the instance won’t result in a ban.

Because of “politics”.

When they have access to chat logs.

Is this real life?

Yes.

Devata.6589:

I don’t really care about all the exact stats. If I can do the content I am fine, it’s just not something I care much about. And food, I almost never used ‘foods’ in any game. I have always seen it as a form of cheating.

scratches head

That there is a new one.

Silberfisch.3046:

If a team considered this a joke, why would they have bothered to try and get a slot in the initial signup at all, I wonder?
That part doesn’t make any sense at all.
And the original idea wasn’t from DnT. They just took it upon them to organize it for everyone else.
Edit: If I remember correctly.

And if what they do is so trivial, why didn’t you sign up to prove how little skill it requires?

I have absolutely no problem if someone says “this isn’t for me, I have no interest in this” and moves on/ignores it. But your slurs are ot of line.

Yeah I agree with Sil. When I posed the question of how might we do this, DnT stepped forward and gave it their best shot.

I hate kittens.

Enaretos.8079:

I actually like lurking the BLTC forums just to have my daily dose of Wanze :>

I like Vol. Even though he’s super snarky at me sometimes.

Rising Dusk.2408:

Tree.3916:

[LuPi] has quit the tournament because they are upset that I re-seeded the brackets after their opponent dropped out.

Hell, my team got a much tougher first pairing as a result of the reseed, but we’re totally still in even if we now might get knocked out first round! We’ll definitely show and try to bring our best to the table.

That said, if people want to drop out, that’s on them. They aren’t doing anyone favors by joining, they are just forfeiting the possibility of rewards over some notion of self-pride that ultimately doesn’t mean anything. Others are still going to compete for the rewards and the prestige regardless. If they were really mad at you or the tournament, they’d redouble their training, beat everyone, and then walk off at the end with the big rewards laughing all the way to the bank.

Still, Tree, I don’t think you should call them out or name/shame them. That’s uncool, and lowers you in many ways to their level. Just let them do what they want to do and keep going regardless. The rest of us are still 100% behind this.

Personally I think it’s totally absurd. [Noob] didn’t drop out when they were going to be facing rT. To think that a serious dungeon guild would leave over something so petty? They decided to throw a wrench into the tournament. Of course they deserve to be shamed.

zwierz.9012:

You have angel and dragon wings. Good enough?

I would not say the Dwayna back piece has the type of wow factor actual angel wings would.

Diablo 3’s angel wings you got for pre ordering are more what I’m thinking about. Those are wow.

^^ This. Seriously, I feel like everyone has both of these problems whenever they are searching for armor. I spend so much time double and triple checking, trying not to waste my gold on duplicates or getting the wrong armor class. (I mainly keep all of my gold on one character, so I use it to buy my other 7 chars things they need for leveling)

I just found it interesting that when they pulled the first one from the gems tore, they said something along the lines of “though not intended, it did resemble t3 human cultural.” But, like, it seems to me that their intention for this armor set was to have them be reskins. But if that was their intention, their very blatant and obvious intention, why would they not be surprised that the first armor set resembled t3? It just doesn’t make sense to me.

I hate the new Flamekissed, though I do like the helm. I have since changed my norn back to her old look, with winged armor, but I’ll definitely always miss the first Flamekissed.

Perfectruin.8349:

I totally ended up making my little Asura Warrior. Love her! Seeing her little blue-haired self spinning around in a lil whirlwind of death is adorable as hell. Best decision ever. =3

kurtosis.9526:

Is that a mini Mr. Sparkles?! I…I want it.

Makes Asura PC the mini instead haha

Vol.7601:

Tomorrow will pass by and we’ll all forget about this.

No one cares about the patches several months ago that got delayed for a few hours, right?

Way to reopen that wound!

I’m kidding, I don’t even know what patch we are talking about.

Poor FGS…. Accused so often of being an exploit….

Of course, it’s very existence might be a bug.

>.>

1. I think word limits on posts would be useful for me, if not, a requirement for a tl;dr. It’s tough to read through massive blocks of text.

2.It would be nice to have you, or other developers, decide on what they want to talk about, because that way our suggestions have a better chance of being considered, as it is on a topic that interests you and the devs.

IndigoSundown.5419:

The OP’s suggestion would be unnecessary if other players would just read the LFG tool and respect a group’s requirements.

This is true. But can we solve the worlds illiteracy problem in just a couple years?

I’m hyped.

Gotta be honest. Class specializations is … awesome.

JoeytheHutt.1742:

“When you play the game, you eventually become better at it; succeeding is what delivers the pleasure, mastering is what makes you feel good (just like the guitar analogy from Thaddeus). If you’re playing the game at mental level 1 continuously and do not evolve, I don’t think it’s okay; you may either go and play a single-player game then, or rather start smoking or drinking alcohol as these hobbies are just as relaxing and challenging. I might be exaggerating here, but I think you get the idea.”

And thats what its all about, what you think is okay or not? I am a decent guitarplayer, I know a lot about playing keyboard, I have played in a band for years. I dont play drums, and as it is an important part of a band, I shouldnt be so lazy and evolve away on the drums?
If Im off to some party and just having some relaxing time with my friends, I dont drag all my stuff with me, I take a guitar and play songs from the top of my head. Even play something I dont know if people ask, because it isnt about beeing the best there is, it is about relaxing and having fun.
I dont know if I am a bad player or not, mostly I wander about alone, exploring, jumping puzzles, gathering and doing events in all zones, mostly soloing them. I love the music and the sights, it is a great world. I dont wvw or pvp, and dont like dungeons that much. Im probably lazy in some eyes, but I can live with that. I dont need to hammer down a knight or something to feel “accomplished”.
Lot of people have other goals and are happy with it. Lot of people dont need to “succeed” in a game to have fun. It is a game.
Play however you want, demand whatever you want, complain about whatever you want, but going on about how everybody that dont share your goals or agree with you are lazy is simply not true.

You are not the type of player the OP is talking about.

The OP is talking about the players that force themselves into groups and do not pull their weight. Since you are a solo player and play for other reasons, the OP is not calling you lazy.

aceboogie.4031:

Yes for ac as long as your 35+ im not selling them either, I dont do that crap I just help people… friend me and look for me at 5ish pm est

Sorry. I didn’t know my sarcasm button wasn’t working.

My point was that the title isn’t the reason people buy dungeons like AC.

Dratikus.2063:

I gave it a try in PVE areas, and I find it very difficult to use. 4 out of 5 skills are AoE and I can’t get them out fast enough before I die. I’m wondering if it is a dungeon-only attunement or at the very least you must have a tank in order to use it. Is that a correct assessment?

Water attunement for staff is good when used situationally. The two water fields are great for blast heals and the frost ground is good for slowing mobs. But in general while using any weapon combo on ele, water is mainly used for support situations. Damage wise, fire on staff and lightning for dagger and scepter are your best bet for damage, while similar to water, earth has its situational uses for support and survivability.