Guild Wars 2

Yet another guild member quit the game cause of hot #justsaying

In my guild, as a leader, I record all the donations that are coming into either the treasury or guild bank. The list is growing longer and longer but at the same time, recording it is important because you will know among all your members, who are the one who cares and the one who don’t.

This is universal truth to all guilds, there are people who cares and people who don’t. Though it is noble for leaders to want to take care of everyone, but it is also very important to know the members who care and the members who don’t.

it is open secret that anet is lazy when come to bug fixing… if the bug is not game breaking, they will put it the least priority and when those bugs accumulate over the years, the numbers will get big enough to be of concern.

Recently, I have many in my guild that began decorating the guild hall and obviously hitting that 2k limit isn’t all that difficult. I would like to request for a increase of the limit to 5k given the fact that 2k is just too little to do detailed decorations comprising of small objects and to cover the hall of such size.

fishball.7204:

Please. TIME isn’t a WvW guild lmao. Good joke mate, you guys are more irrelevant than KOME and don’t pretend your entire guild steps in WvW when 90% of your guild are Pve players.

We isn’t, I didn’t say we are. I am a responsible leader and would like to to have my entire guild transferred instead of part of my guild. Could you be so kind to do that? For all of us, the thousands of SEA/OCX? We are just too poor to afford transferring to join up our guilds who are on the other side of the server wall, I mean, we didn’t choose any servers particularly for whatever reason, we just randomly chose it to play the game, it isn’t our fault we are left astray on random servers. We will all be really grateful to you if you can do that for all of us, for eternity. Please do not advocate for a punishment, we didn’t do any wrong to reward that.

On a side note, despite being a PvX, my guild fare much better than many wannabe WvW guilds. Btw, did you know? I had people from BG asking us to move there when JQ was at the peak. We are indeed more irrelevant than anyone, your home server is awesome to have you there.

PS: I have to delete my original post because I think I am on a borderline infraction there.
PS2: I didn’t know people still talks about KOME as they’re dead for 2 long years, I guess KOME was a really influential guild for people to still remember them and occasionally bring them up.

Edit: I think my time line on death date is wrong. should be 2 years or 2.5. kitten , i am bad server mate, i don’t even remember their death date, we started out in the same server afterall.
Edit2: I think is 3 years? Can’t be. I am not sure, anyone knows?
Edit3: Had whisper telling me to fix some grammars, fine, i will fix it.

Natto.5819:

And no, it can’t be abused, since War Councils are the most honorable players in the server.

Are you joking? Have you played pvp mmorpg before? Do you think all leading guilds’ leaderships are honorable players? I play before and play a lot of it, I can assure you it isn’t true. Even myself at times will make personal decision instead of objective decision, why would you think others would not? Many do that, we are all jerk at some points, power corrupt people and in those games, we have tons of power.

Regardless, what you suggested is not part of gw2’s philosophy thus not compatible with the overall designs.

Hi,

I think it is better to use account name instead of character name in regard to mail sender name. If the toon is deleted then the name become invalid so you no longer can reply to the sender.

Powercreep + people have gotten better. It is no longer 2013 where there are tons of noobs for you to kitten apart. Well, I still can recall when people asked what is blast.

80 is pretty high. You looking for level 100? 200?

this is what happen when you put a game into super carebear mode
ppl can just abuse each other without any repercussions

Puck.9612:

SkyShroud.2865:

Puck.9612:

FogLeg.9354:

DeceiverX.8361:

Merged servers is frankly be the worst possible way to handle the WvW population issue as it only solves symptoms and not the actual underlying problems.

It does not have to be “merge”, could be some other way, but number of servers HAS to be reduced dramatically. And I am in one of the dead servers, which I always love and will never transfer away, but it’s still dead. Sure there are other stuff that needs to be fixed too, but the last servers were dying even before HoT.

I find this to be a very odd statement. You love your server and would never leave but you want to see it destroyed?

He just means that he will accept whatever happen to the server system despite how much love he has for the server system. He has prepared to face reality.

Reality is server merges would go over terribly and drive even more people away from the game, especially since all the things that have been killing the game haven’t been addressed yet.
If the OP isn’t having fun on his server and his friends have already left then he should move. He can even park a free account on his server so he can keep playing with them from time to time.

Game will decline as time passes, that is a reality, a reality people refuse to accept. Many people has this pipe dream that population will not decline, people will not quit to move on to a newer game. But people will quit, people will move on as time passes. The amount of new blood that will replace those who left will not be enough, it will never be enough.

Anet has to produce contents worth retaining population but to create such content has always been proven difficult in MMORPGs. Of course, anet did produce certain changes that accelerate people to quit earlier than later but correcting these changes will not magically recover the losses. You cannot regain what is lost.

While people are contemplating what to do, new bloods continue to flow in and join the many servers, servers which can be low in WvW activity, these players then join PvE guilds that don’t do WvW at all. This further lower the amount of new blood entering WvW. PvX guilds nowadays hardly function as a mean to bring PvE players into WvW any more, ever since megaserver. While at the same time, servers continue to decline. FA has already fallen into medium pop, is not hard to know which server will be next.

By merging the servers, you give the new bloods a chance to be interested in WvW. You allow the PvX guilds to do their part to convert PvE players into PvX players. You get the WvW maps populated again, giving people a chance to experience liveliness it once had, rejuvenating the feelings people once had when they first see WvW.

I can understand that you are worried about people’s resistance to changes, especially changes as big as mergers or anything similiar while not resolving issues like big complicated borderland map. Merger is still inevitable as resolving any issues will not magically have the population return to previous height.

it come has no surprise…
even when im not working in anet company, i can already see how bad the game development schedule is in just by the quality of the game expansion itself when it was delivered.

i wonder where are the white knights that kept on attacking people like me who were only just emphasizing the obvious, calling us cynical or negative or hater.

Population disparity has always been the root of the problem. Scoring is nothing more than the result of that. The scoring changes is nothing more than a illusion in telling oneself that population disparity is not the issue. When people plays the game, it is the reality of the map that matters more than the silly scoring.

Also, people stack on the server for the more frequent wvw activities. This stacking cause a chain of problems. When people stack on selected servers, it also means that certain servers are getting less populated which then means that people in those servers can either choose to suck it up, to stack servers like others or stop wvw because it is less interesting. Evidently, lower tier server start to get lesser people over time mainly because of the second and last reason. With the destacking and stacking, you also lose a lot of WvW players over time.

Players are naturally selfish, they do not care about the consequences of stacking and destacking. Anet has to and must step in to put a stop in these actions by implementing a system that does that. Currently, anet system does not discourage stacking and destacking, from a pvp perspective , it is a terrible design.

anet’s chocie of testers is puzzling
for raid, they get the top of the cohort instead of the mainstream
for wvw, they get the unrelated cohort instead of the mainstream

That is so expensive! For a statue that serve to beautify your guild hall. This is not even a raid or world boss statue.

Cosmetic aside

Guild Sieges – EXPENSIVE
Especially the guild cata, we could get it cheaply via influence and now crafting it is like what? 5 badges? 2g+?

WvW Tact – EXPENSIVE!
The expensive part is the fiber. Even if a server manage defend their’s for the entire week, it will reset and you need to fill them up again! Then again, how many servers manage to defend it for the whole week?

Please consider adjusting those costs.

SkullProX.7083:

@ShyShroud I don’t do SW either, try again

I will try. Looking at your posts history, you have personal issue with large scale farming. So, being a personal issue, even your reasons are personal.

I suggest everyone to ignore this thread.

Actually, there is no such thing as 75% voted for DBL. The vote actually is to keep DBL or throw it away permanently and it is not even 75%.. Also, no one ever voted DBL to be part of the rotation, we were never given that choice. DBL is literally forced into the rotation without our consent. Our only option is to keep or not keep DBL but anet devs go beyond that and interpreted it as we want to keep it means we want it to be in rotation. Then, we are forced to vote for the type of rotation without voting for wanting it to be part o the rotation. There is also no other vote regarding what kind of things people dislike about DBL. The popularity will is engineered, nothing is real, wvw continue to bleed.

Please change the topic to 23-Jun Patch – Commander Tag crash
easily to understand to prevent others creating another thread
yes, the com tag crash the game

ermmm…..

did staff ele radius increased?
if not, why ask for a nerf when it has been like this for ages?

if you are new to wvw, then learn how wvw works

Proposal Overview
Display MOTD in chat

Goal of Proposal
Most people don’t open the guild tab to read the message of the day. Displaying MOTD in chat will increase the communication reach between guild and the members.

Proposal Functionality
When the member logon or begin representing, display the MOTD in the chatline.

Associated Risks
Abuse in text form by irresponsible guild leaders. Not a big risk, members can choose to stay there or leave it.

T1 and T2 need to be destacked, anet should design the system to be more flexible to lock specific tiers while keeping other tiers relative cheap as incentive to transfer down.

T3 and T4 have people transferring to them from T1 and T2, no doubt about that but closing off like that cut off all possibilities to destack.

Again and again, anet way of doing things have been inflexible and too textbook like.

DoctorDing.5890:

SkyShroud.2865:

To begin with, it is absurd that a solo player can get 3/4 of the guild stuffs by themselves.

No, it’s not. It’s absolutely fine. It’s their game too. They work for it or pay for it. It does not come for free.

SkyShroud.2865:

. You don’t really see solo guild in other mmos.

Yes you do. For example in Neverwinter you need a minimum of 5 people to start a guild and it’s very common to pay a small fee to 4 random folk to temporarily join you so you can start a solo guild. There are regular calls for it in chat and plenty of collaborators. And the main reason for a solo guild there is the same as here – cheap storage. I’m pretty sure in GW2 we’ll see a culture emerge for solo guilds to help each other capture their guild halls. And that’s fine, isn’kitten It has no impact on other players and doesn’t harm anyone. Play the game any way you want.

Like you said, they had to receive help from others to create a guild. Solo is called solo because you gotten do everything by oneself but the moment you need help from others, it is no longer solo.

What TS want is a solo guild, a real solo. Not receiving help from anyone to do anything, that is why he is complaining because he can’t solo to obtain things again.

All those solo guilds now need to learn to ask for help or even buy mercenaries if they want something. No longer the one-man show era.

Ayrilana.1396:

How is exactly not wanting portals being used to trivialize OPTIONAL content being selfish and anti-social?

Ayrilana.1396:

So you’d rather make a personal attack on me rather than make a constructive argument against my suggestion?

LoL~~ that escalated quickly.

I personally dont see why TS is getting upset. The people who ported them up actually spent their personal efforts to climb up and is not complaining about the efforts they put in and the money they spent in wp-ing just to help others in completing that JP. These people are not paid to do this but they actually went ahead to do it.

It just seems to me that TS has a self-imposed justice and “right” way of doing things. Again, TS fail to understand that the majority just want to play the game as it is and helping others along the way. If one want to jump the JP through their own efforts, is fine. If one want to offer assistance such as portal, thats fine too. If one want to accept their offer, is fine too. All of them made their own personal decisions to do what they want to do in their own ways. However, TS suggestion is literally forcing everything into one single way because it is “right”.

Of course, I hope that TS understand the suggestion might actually bring frustration to people who are just plain bad in JP for whatever reason. Ultimately, if the suggestion is to be put in place, it will affect EBG JP and that will cause yet another round of agony to people who are there just to grab some blueprints and tokens which to be use in a bigger content like WvW.

PS: try reading “categorical imperative”

No one comment it because of two reason
1. Can’t confirm it though the system is suspected bias by some people.
2. Many legend players do not want to admit they are carried to legend by the system’s winning streak, instead of working through the ladder like some others had. What’s more, it is a solid fact there are a lot of bad legends.

ProtoGunner.4953:

Bomber.3872:

Since gw2 release I spent over 400€ only on gw2, even more money since gw1. For me yesterday’s update was like a hit in the face. Actually now most of the money and thousand’s of ingame gold I spent changed into a total useless waste.

So as soon as I saw the patch notes yesterday I wrote (a friendly!) support ticket (ticket number 2047273), asking for a refund. I couldn’t add a screenshot so basically I wrote the following list and asked if it is possible to refund them or at least partial refund some of the items.

- 4x Copper-Fed Salvage-o-Matic
- 1x Royal Terrace Pass
- 5x Molten Alliance Mining Pick
- 12x Consortium Harvesting Sickle
- 1x Thresher-Sickle 5000
- 5x Chop-It-All Logging Axe
- 20x Watchwork Mining Pick

I don’t get it, are you insane? Why the hell are you buying 20 Watchwork Mining picks etc? And why is no one asking in this thread about this? You act as if it is totally normal. Then you complain about 2800 gems. I don’t understand…

It is too expensive, yes, but it’s also a big QoL improvement. I am not sure if I just wait for a discount. I spent quite a lot of money to GW2 but 35€ only for 5 slots is very steep. It’s almost the price of the expansion…

Well, lets assume he has 20 characters.

The transfer cost is meant to be gold sink, the server population status is broken for more than a year since mega server.

hammer war is preferred in a organised raid due to its CC, tankiness, condi convertion and removal (depending on the build), basically, good team player

engineer has nice aoe, tankiness and flexibility (depend on build) but I cant comment much about how good it is when come to team support since I don’t use engineer. engineer is not in the most wanted list when come to organised raid

im not greedy

i only want anet to have multi core support, the rest can wait

STIHL.2489:

Well I can’t, and to be honest, I have no urge to respond to everyone, to be blunt, I am just going to flat out ignore anyone that opens with something like “’I’m casual, you need to L2P noob1!1!!!” or some such similar nonsense.

If you thought that would endear me to what you have to say, you are very mistaken.

IndigoSundown.5419:

OP, while you may self-identify as casual, there is little agreement among all who so identify. Some think of the word as meaning preference for easy content; others for limited time spent playing; still others for solo-only play. There may be as many understandings of what “casual” means as there are people using the term.

“Casual” is a mindset, or more aptly put, an approach on how someone plays the game. In simple terms, “casual” defines their motive and drive, as opposed to being serious about the game, or hardcore. Truth is, being “Casual” is irrespective of skill or time played. As how many hours someone invests into a game or how skilled they are at playing a game, have no bearing the mindset they have or how they approach the game.

In short, a “Casual” is not looking for a something serious that they have to work at or treat like a job, they are looking to escape into a fantasy world as someone might take a casual stroll in the woods to escape the daily grind of life.

Thank you. It is really rare to find people on this community to know the key differences.

It as you have said, casual or semi-casual/hardcore or hardcore are mainly the differences in mindset. A lot of people used “time” as a gauge, that might be relative in the past because in the past there are mostly only semi-hardcore or hardcore games. However, game evolved, likewise, our understanding also evolved. “Time” isn’t a relative unit of measurement anymore. Likewise skill as a gauge, but that isn’t accurate either because there are simply people who have the talents to be good at something while putting in lesser efforts.

If people do put in a bit of effort, they will find articles of people from gaming industry talking about the differences of casuals, core and hardcore.

Ubi.4136:

IT WON’T WORK.

They would have to remove server transfers after the deletion…or the bandwagon will happen again.
Transfers cost money/generate revenue.

Anet will not do anything that eliminates a source of revenue.

As mentioned, stacking is the result of players exploiting the gap between actual wvw populations and the fixed limit threshold. The dynamic threshold control that gap dynamically unlike the fixed threshold, thus stacking is not possible.

As mentioned, the thread is not about anet earning or not earning money, it is about designing a sustainable system.

LOL, I still can’t get the idea why people keep using that stupid argument.

If zerg or blob have supplies, they CAN build multiple sieges and they WILL build multiple sieges. Repair hammer doesn’t change that, at all. Repair hammer, from what I can tell, will only be extremely useful for golems after a assault and for defensive use. Attackers thinking of using supplies to repair sieges are dumb, I will rather build 9 cata than use 6 cata worth of supplies to repair 3 cata.

I thought it was obvious. Balance vs server identity vs benefits.

Back when some of us call for deletion of servers, quite a number oppose it strongly because of server identity. Six months down the road, the same group of people that oppose then supports it, smirk.

Anyway, all those times having people opposing or supporting something they don’t really understand, in other words, for things they only understand vaguely will simply result in nothing done and end up as long term damage. If people want to play couple of months or even a year or few years down the road, that is to say hope their game environment will be still healthy and positive then, then do make responsible comments.

check out the ncsoft profit/loss statement…
it stated gw2 income drop is due to cash shop items, so now they pushing more cash shops items! :OOOO

Still no idea why anet is so insistent on new worlds instead of working on the existing worlds, they actually talk about this twice (include this thread). Is the dev so stubborn to the point that they believe new worlds will work better in a long term when the current numerous worlds already failing?

The dev should be more realistic and practical when come to choosing solutions, the dev should consider a middle ground where you make current specific servers free to transfer, for example the guest servers of T4. Dev could even setup additional transfer rules like higher transfer cost from “High” to “Medium” if they are targeting to shift population from “Very High” to “Medium”. dev can also reduce global cap to channel new players towards the bottom servers.

I doubt creating new servers is any easier than working on the current. Proven to be doable since S2 had free transfers for specific servers.

neven.3785:

SkyShroud.2865:

Given that there is a squad commander bonus, what if people want to run tagless, how to take advantage of this bonus then?

why would you expect a bonus? If you want to be exclusive and not show the map where your group is running, then you do not deserve the bonus. Generally if you want to run closed with a tag, most people respect that, and if they dont, learn to shake pugs and they’ll leave you alone.

But, tagless still doing their part for the server….why are you so mean to tagless?

im from sea and i do notice the ping is slightly higher than usual and often spike up in huge fight especially wvw

cpchow.7416:

dzeRnumbrd.6129:

I agree, this new classification/transfer system is very poor for Oceanic/SEA players.

I play in SEA T1. There is very small SEA population outside of tier 1.

This change has locked every SEA player and guild to whatever T1 server they are currently on.

If SEA players/guilds leave their current T1 server they end up in T3 or T2 (at best) and end up having very little opposition (and thus very little fun).

Guilds want big fights against top class opposition.

I’ve been playing on JQ since the early days. I have friends on JQ that I don’t want to leave and I have a new friend that has never played GW2 that I want to introduce to WvW.

My friend can never join us. I won’t be able to convince my JQ friends to move to some backwater server for someone they do not know.

This change is actually increasing the WvW population rot (I’m not going to get my friend to buy GW2 and play WvW because he can’t join us).

I would also dispute that Tier 1 is full – JQ never has all maps queued (except maybe 30 minutes after reset). This is not a full server. We could queue 3 more maps with players. We are maybe 1/4 to 1/2 full in terms of our queues.

The servers should be able to support 4 queued maps all having blob fights at the same time on each map. If it can’t do that then they need to fix their servers to handle load not invent “Full” classifications.

For those mocking T1 and calling it a ktrain – that is so far from the truth. 90% of time in T1 SEA is open field multi-guild fights. JQ was relatively empty during the golem ktrain because we all found it so boring compared to fighting.

This change hasn’t stopped server overpopulation. It has simply altered the strategy for how people overpopulate a particular server. Instead you now get a situation like Yak’s Bend where everyone transfers into an empty server before it gets classified as Full.

GW2 is about letting people play the game they want to play it. If people want to roam on empty maps then let them live in T3 and below. If people want to blob in T1 and sit in long queues then let them.

Existing players on T1 should at a minimum be able to invite their friends onto their server.

Just open up everything up and let people transfer where they want and let the queue lengths be the control that discourages overpopulation.

I totally agree with you. Let people what they want, we paid for the game. Don’t use "stupid’ game politics restrict the fun of us. Otherwise, more and more people will leave the game. I think population balancing is important but anet locks migration of high tier server is a terrible idea. It can’t solve the problem and make it worse. It is the same as golem week. Besides locking the server transfer, wvw guesting system would be a better way to solve the population problem. You just need to let players guest to other server and enjoy the wvw. Set home server player have the priority enter their bl. Set a 1 minute timer for guest server player to kick them out of the map if a home server is in queue for their home server bl.

Apparently, you are not around during launch or have played much MMOs. Players were allowed to transfer any where and everywhere during the launch, this create a very chaotic situation with matchup capable of becoming unbalance so easily. This also caused many hardcore guilds to disband and players to quit the game, those are hardcore players and not just casuals who think they are hardcores. It is because of the unbalance, anet then start to close the free transfer which has been overdue. Anet is always one step slower in everything they do.

Allowing players to take matters to their own hands and leaving players to their own devices can be extremely destructive in certain game modes. Competitive gaming scene can only be competitive because of certain regulations in place.

Well, given the current state of affairs, I wonder if people who voted for 2 months or longer relink are regretting their decisions. I personally voted for monthly.

The game population indeed noticeably shrunk, I know it because I run a large guild.

The number of people we recruit is much lesser than pre-hot.
Though the launch of HOT did generate enough hype, but remember, hype is still hype, it will not last.

There were many complains, incomplete raid, incomplete guild hall, incomplete scribe, incomplete wvw (they delayed the wvw core changes which promised to fix the population), buggy stories. Furthermore, there are new games, this give the complainers good number for reasons to stop gw2 and move on.

Naturally, those who just casually playing the game, they will play hot and disappear few weeks after. Those are the kind of casuals that vastly populated this game. Luckily for anet, the hot was accompanied with halloween, wintersday and PvP, thus the people stayed a bit longer. Now, with all those events passed, lesser people are in the game.

All in all, gw2 lost a number of veterans and the newcomers will not be able to fill those gap. Remember, among the newcomers, there are also people who play casually and disappear after a few weeks.

Equinox Solstice [TIME] is a singapore-based international PvX guild residing in Crystal Desert server. [TIME] was established on 18th February 2013, with the aim of fostering interest in all aspects of the game, i.e. sPvP, WvWvW and PvE. We welcome all players that are fun-loving, outgoing and self-motivated.

Since the free transfer period started, asia and ocx players have been transferring and joining our guild on daily basis! So far, players from Singapore, Malaysia, India, China, Taiwan and Australia have joined us in the past week. Our average SEA online count is slowly raising up to 40. During last weekend, we have up to 70 online during SEA guild missions.

If you are interested in joining the guild, you can contact SkyShroud.2865 or you can visit our guild site, www.gw2time.com, for more info.

Free transfer to CD
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/get-ready-for-wvw-spring-tournament-2014/

Are those damage tested under “controlled” environment or by random occurrence?

some people consider buff and guild hall levels as something very important.

Some guilds are beginning to stack T1 again. When the HOT hype dies down, the PvX players will return to WvW and when that happen, I wonder what will happen to those servers that got stacked and then locked due to the returns of PvX players. Will those guilds then transfer off T1 because it has become even more blobby due to the PvX players?

By now, people should realise that PvX players account for at least half the overall WvW populations.

Edit: I am certain that anet do not mind people spending gems to transfer, they earn more money that way. In that case, anet has even lesser reasons to solve any wvw issues because solving will means cutting their gems income. Business perspective, it is not a good idea, at all, because they will never know any changes to WvW will work both ways that benefit the players and the company but they do know that keeping the status quo will earn them money.

I had sent a mail to the forums team via the provided address regarding the machup thread thingy 2 weeks ago after seeing increasing numbers of posters getting touchy about it and myself getting annoyed about it. Gaile Gray replied and then updated the thread about it. If you guys still think is questionable, do send in mail as making a thread about it is unlikely to get an answer as stated in the forums rule (iirc).

so that they can ahve double events and at the same time, double bugs

2mult is hard to kill as compared to other bounties. It will cause stun when shooting out the spark and these aoe is PAINFUL, it is not possible to kill with a small group unless that small group consist of a few individual that has feedback or reflect. In other words, you will need a very specialized team to kill it. Killing it in the timeframe will require quite a lot DPS.

My guild started T3 and we have 4 parties jump on the 2mult just to kill it and it took about 5min? 5min just to kill a bounty and still have other bounties =,=
At that time we had 40+ people doing guild bounties

I really dont see how small guild can enjoy the mission with 2mult as target, and there are also the hide and seek. To begin with, by adding 3 additional targets already reducing the chances of small guilds completing them.

I can see that anet signalling to the small guilds, either grow big or merge or give it up.

You are right, this is a clear double standard, it also suggest that EU customers are not important or valued. You should rally more people to protest this unfair treatment.

Joke. Guilds are not forced to stack on these servers, they made those choice while knowing the servers will be full, while knowing they have to compete with other guilds for a limited yet large pool of players in a full servers, while knowing any so-called returned players that were on the previous servers will not be able to rejoin them and so on…….

If guilds made the choice to stack on these servers without considering these factors, then those guilds deserve to die for their bad leaderships.

Self entitlement is strong, my advise would be make your own game and set your own rule.

Furthermore, wvw players have to do pve to get some of the HOT gears. Stop QQing and go earn it, otherwise, don’t get legendary.

all protest will die down over the time…
the most important thing is that awareness is raised…