Guild Wars 2

The first three rewards are given to you just for linking your accounts. Then it’s just three more rewards for the full armour set. I only played GW1 for the final year before GW2 came out, so I’d hardly call myself a GW1 Veteran, but I still managed 30/50 HoM rewards.

LughLongArm.5460:

4 years early access and freebies is enough honor.

You are mistaken. HoM rewards were advertised as exclusive. Anet sold copies of GW1 based on that advertisement. People continued with GW1, keeping their interest in the franchise fresh, based on that advertisement.

If you want to take something that people have paid for away from them you should be willing to cover the cost yourself. Thirty bucks each for a couple of million people would likely cover it.

The cool thing is that this exclusive club will take anyone willing to pay the entrance fee and existing members are willing to help cover that fee.

I played GW1 when it released until a couple weeks after Nightfall came out. All I really did was the story missions and then stopped playing. I then rebought the trilogy and EotN back in October 2014 and have slowly been working on my HOM. I could have finished it early last year if I really wanted to but I was in no rush. Now I’m just shy of 50 points with only obby armor, zkeys, miniatures, and a couple other minor things left before I have my 50 points. I can finish most if I sat in Kamadan trading.

I personally found obtaining the initial 30 points pretty easy. There’s a lot of flexibility if that is all that you’re going for.

LughLongArm.5460:

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

LughLongArm.5460:

Great, I got all the feedback from GW1 vetrans, sad thing is that GW2 only players probably doesnt even know what Hall of Monuments is and wont bother with this post.
Well… Whatever.

You asked for feedback. I’m sorry you don’t like that others disagree with your point of view. The summary has been:

• It’s currently possible to get the rewards via the same methods everyone else has used.
• The game makes it possible to solo and a large fraction of players did so even before GW2 was announced, so it’s a moot point how many people are playing. Still, there are a substantial number around 24/7.
• ANet offered the rewards specifically as a way to honor GW1 veterans.

I can understand that you want the skins. What I don’t understand is why you don’t want to play GW1 to get them, like everyone else has done.

All feedback is welcome, but when you ask for feedback you want it from variuos types of players and when the feedback is from GW1 vetrans only, its getting generic and predictable. I would like to know what GW2 only players also think.

And like I siaed, i think that 4 years early access and freebies is enough honor. they can make GW2 only players work hard for what you got for free, why do care so much?

Did you even read our feedback, you literally just ignored all the posts above and repeated your self…..

We care so much because we have put in months and months, even years of work. Please, just stop now, its only gonna go downhill form here.

LughLongArm.5460:

Great, I got all the feedback from GW1 vetrans, sad thing is that GW2 only players probably doesnt even know what Hall of Monuments is and wont bother with this post.
Well… Whatever.

Which isn’t really an issue since it exists as a loyalty scheme for veteran players, with the added bonus of being open to new players who want to invest their time and explore the prequel, discover a great game for themselves and be rewarded for it here.

Also, some players posted here who aren’t GW1 vets and actually went to GW1 to do just that – so you got feedback from players who in fact were GW2 only until they discovered GW1

LughLongArm.5460:

And like I siaed, i think that 4 years early access and freebies is enough honor. they can make GW2 only players work hard for what you got for free, why do care so much?

We didn’t get it for free. We bought GW1 (many of us all three campaigns and then the expansion), and we also bought GW2. We also farmed (mats, gold, minis, missions, vanquishing and HM, pvp, etc.) to earn all of our HoM points. No one got them for free.

LughLongArm.5460:

jheryn.8390:

LughLongArm.5460:

I dont mind to sink the time in the game that I actually care about, i just dont think i need to sink time in a 11 years old game wih very low popoulation. 4 years ago it was somewhat reasonable, now its not.

Well then you have your answer. You don’t think it is worth it to do what you need to do to get these rewards. So the actual rewards are not worth it to you.

Akin that to masteries. If you don’t think ley line gliding is worth having then you are not going to sink the time into getting the mastery. Same principle.

And “reasonable” in this instance is a very subjective term.

Only problem in your logic is that GW1 and GW2 are not the same game. Like I saied i want to play GW2 to get access for GW2 content and goodies. I dont even understand why players here so strongly push me to play GW1, you even admit its just a time sink process any one could do, so why not giving me and aquivilent option in GW2, why do you care in which game the effort and the time sink will take place? Make it a time effort, make it hard, make it costly, but kitten make GW2 content avilable for GW2 players.

It’s a simple question. Do you want them? If the answer is yes, then you need to play GW1 to get them. If you are not fussed on getting them, then you don’t have to. It is that simple. Also it’s not Guild Wars 2 content. It’s a thank you to people for playing Guild Wars. The HoM rewards have nothing to do with Guild Wars 2. Do you understand now the difference between Guild Wars 2 content and the HoM skins?

LughLongArm.5460:

Great, I got all the feedback from GW1 vetrans, sad thing is that GW2 only players probably doesnt even know what Hall of Monuments is and wont bother with this post.
Well… Whatever.

GW2 only players know what assets and rewards are though, so they may very well bother with this post anyway. Still the rewards are not intended for players not interested in playing GW1 so perhaps they just recognize it and continue playing the game they do want to play, earning the rewards that they consider worth the time and effort.

LughLongArm.5460:

Great, I got all the feedback from GW1 vetrans, sad thing is that GW2 only players probably doesnt even know what Hall of Monuments is and wont bother with this post.
Well… Whatever.

You asked for feedback. I’m sorry you don’t like that others disagree with your point of view. The summary has been:

• It’s currently possible to get the rewards via the same methods everyone else has used.
• The game makes it possible to solo and a large fraction of players did so even before GW2 was announced, so it’s a moot point how many people are playing. Still, there are a substantial number around 24/7.
• ANet offered the rewards specifically as a way to honor GW1 veterans.

I can understand that you want the skins. What I don’t understand is why you don’t want to play GW1 to get them, like everyone else has done.

LughLongArm.5460:

I dont mind to sink the time in the game that I actually care about, i just dont think i need to sink time in a 11 years old game wih very low popoulation. 4 years ago it was somewhat reasonable, now its not.

Well then you have your answer. You don’t think it is worth it to do what you need to do to get these rewards. So the actual rewards are not worth it to you.

Akin that to masteries. If you don’t think ley line gliding is worth having then you are not going to sink the time into getting the mastery. Same principle.

And “reasonable” in this instance is a very subjective term.

LughLongArm.5460:

Cyninja.2954:

LughLongArm.5460:

4 years early access and getting all free is not enough of a bonus?

No it’s not, because it never was early access bonus. It was a reward for loyalty and doing a lot of stuff in GW1.

You can’t ask for something to get made widely available and then devalue the rewards by calling them early access.

Bellatrixa.3546:

tl;dr go and earn the items yourself instead of thinking that everything can be instantly obtained with a credit card.

Couldn’t have said it better myself.

I dont mind to sink the time in the game that I actually care about, i just dont think i need to sink time in a 11 years old game wih very low popoulation. 4 years ago it was somewhat reasonable, now its not.

You clearly do not know what you are talking about, there are many people still playing GW1. I my self am still plying it, not for any reason other than I enjoy the game. The funny thing is, you do not need other people to play GW1. Once you have Hero’s you can do everything bar the deep and urzogs warren.

Maybe they are powering their appliances with ley-line based aetheric technobabble mumbo jumbo whatchamacallit electricity?

Belzebu.3912:

People are really asking to receive less rewards?

I like the way it is now, and receive the rewards per character.

It’s more that they want the rewards sooner, because they carelessly deleted a character.

In the world of Guild Wars? Never delete your first character, and never delete anything, it

always comes back around to bite you, every single time.

LughLongArm.5460:

PLZ Consider making Hall of Monuments assets available by other means

Hall of Monuments in GW2 is inaccessible for most current GW2 community and it’s a shame as lots of GW2 assets are locked behind a wall which is no longer relevant.

Giving veterans GW1 players an extra bonus and motivation was a great idea 4 years ago but now it feels an obsolete system, the chance that non GW1 players will pick up the game and invest tons of hours for the skins is very low, probably close to 0. I think that giving the veterans GW1 players free and 4 years early access on the skins is enough of a bonus.

Plz consider giving access to Hall of Monuments in GW2 by other means that doesn’t include GW1, it can be the gem store, game content, a collection achievement, all options are fine.

What do you think?

Go buy GW1 and earn them? Sorry but I came into GW1 late and I’m well on my way to getting alot of the items, I know alot of others who did the same, the amount of backlash ANet would get after the amount of work we put into getting them, lol….lol.

I personally am going for my GWAMM and fellblade and if they suddenly just handed them out after the months and months of grinding I have done, yea I’d be kittened.

And your statement that its a concrete inaccessible wall….nope, you can buy the game still and still earn them, so your wrong, its accessible plain as day, you just don’t want to do the work.

You can always go to the Players Helping Players forum ans ask for help in GW1

i have seen several posts where multiple people where always willing to give a lot of helpful advice or offer their help directly ingame
Many others offered to give away minipets and other stuff to help people with their HoMs

just ask nicely and be willing to invest a bit into GW1 and you can easily reach 30 HoM points (without tons of grinding or massive gw1 knowledge needed)

Players that want the HOM rewards can do what everyone else did and go play GW1 and earn them. It’s a great game and perfect to play during content droughts.

I disagree with the idea of having other means of access to HoM. First, it would be crazy unfair to people who spent dozen of hours on GW1 for it as part of the marketing campaign for GW2 who will regret long and never trust Anet marketing ever again. Second, if you want the HoM rewards, it is not that hard nor expensive to buy GW1 and put your kitten to it. Depending on what reward you want, it may take long, though…

Go play gw1. That game deserves to be played for more than just its HoM rewards. Get the 3 campaigns and eotn, go do it!

It’s all personal as to what is worth it to buy. What I like is not what you like.

WORLD VS. WORLD
General

Added a new reward track that contains Tribal, Stalwart, and Apostle armor skins.

This has been such a popular request for so long, I figured I should call it out for anyone who doesn’t read the update notes, or doesn’t look at the massive Tribal Armor thread.

THE PROMISED DAY HAS COME AT LAST?

Edit: Khani says they’re available in PvP as well!

The GW Hard Mode worked solely because the maps were all proprietary instances. The GW2 maps are not. Mobs respawn, for one thing. Other players are there.

If they made a “hard mode” map copy, they’d have to convert the server architecture to spawn separate, zone-wide copies for every player/group that wanted to access them. I don’t know how hard this would be, or how much server bandwidth would be required. I do know that GW HM took a fair bit of developer resources to produce and suspect that doing this for GW2 would require more, maybe a lot more.

I also know, because Anet stated it, that they had no plans to implement Hard Mode in GW2. For one thing, the game design — based on large group content — is dependent on having enough players around to do these events. So, ANet is reluctant to do too many things that would split the player-base.

And, yeah, HM in GW was enjoyable. Also, it’s still there.

And another one. 3rd topic name with the same joke?

Another one of these?

Please Trump, stop it with these stupid titles.

The more you write them, the less i am interested in reading them.

And for your problem:
Players will always go the way of least resistance. That’s why stacking is a thing in dungeons, much too my dismay.

If it were easy to fix, then they would have done it already.

So, can you please tone it down with your demands? Shouting again and again like this is just… sad… seriously.
Blowing the Trump-“Make XYZ Great again”-Horn just doesn’t help your case.

Just a flesh wound.3589:

Sounds more like you’re mad about other players than wanting to make world bosses great.

Great click bait title, even though it’s getting boring to read the 3rd? 4th? time around.

I’m sure this is there 4-5th post about making something great. I think they might want to be a politician.

Saldy I see no really want to make them “great”. Get enough people in the map and the job is done. There is nothing to be done. Not everyone will give it there all. It’s the way people are.

Mirta.5029:

tolunart.2095:

Angelica Dream.7103:

Did Anet make this so expensive. I am torn now looking at how much I have lost in material and the major grind ahead.
What ever happened to the GW2 that I bought that promised no grind?

Grinding is when you log in after buying an expansion and suddenly your character is 5 levels below max and those 5 levels will take longer than the first 60 did. Your BiS gear is now two grades below and to get back to the top you need to complete two raids and go through five ranks of reputation with three different factions.

Nevermore is a pretty skin for your staff. It doesn’t offer any significant advantage (changing stats at will is not worth another 1000 gold) just bragging rights. Most MMOs reset your “progress” every year or so to keep you paying and playing.

how is that different than buying the expansion and having to grind masteries to participate in the new content? Or grinding ascendeds to partake in raids? Actually vertical progression grind is less bad than grind currently present in HoT.

But if you just play the new content and use a few boosters, you’ll get the stuff you need to participate in the new content very fast. You don’t need leyline gliding to particpate in new content. You need about four mastery points to get through the story.

In reality, it’s not much grinding at all.

You CAN grind it by killing spiders over and over again, which some people did, or you could just do some adventures, do some dynamic events, do some story…because I didn’t grind anything.

I played the new zones. I got plenty of progress just playing normally without grinding. I was always doing something different.

For the record, I don’t believe grind means taking time to do something. I think grinding means having to do exactly the same thing over and over multiple times in order to make progress. Like grinding the same raid until you get the drop you want. I never had that experience in Heart of Thorns.

If you’re focused on the skill bar, you feel like you’re grinding, If you focus on events and just enjoying yourself, you don’t.