Most of the topics i read here are about the bad matchmaking system, lack of players, unfair matches etc… so i gonna share my thoughts about this.
If you want to have balanced matches you need a system that sorts the queuing players into teams not only taking premde team sizes, but also player personal skills into consideration. Our current system seems to lack on both of these but imo the bigger problem is how the ranking system works.
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Take a look at the leaderboard. 6 ppl in the top 15(even #1) got <=50% win rate. how is that even posible ?!?! (not meaning to offend these ppl thy surely are grate players)
all i see the leader syster rewards the time invested instead of player skill. Devs could copy the ranking system of chess like many other games did and guess what it works wonderfully for them.
This is how you get balanced matches: you drop in players with the same skill level which is determined by theyr rank points.
+Lot of my mates did quit the game just becouse of the bad ranking system. They didnt even argue about ‘bad matchmaking’ or ‘lack of gamemodes’ or ‘lack of tournaments’ the lack of competitive skill measurement was simply enough.
So in my opinion the implementation of a proper rankend system would not only fix most of the current problems by itself, but it would atract a LOT of people to the pvp scene.
matchmaking is now at the best it has ever been, I don’t even miss soloq
…can’t tell if serious?
Isn’t that what the middle of Kyhlo is all about?
I’m not sure if this has been done before, but if it has, credit to whoever might have come up with it.
My friend and I were kitten ing around in a custom arena after duelling each other on engis, and, for posterity, we decided to both go on decap engi. After noticing an area in Legacy of the Foefire could be used for duelling, we came up with a sort of minigame:
1) Use any build (preferably one with many knockbacks, maybe a stunbreak)
2) Objective is to knock the other person off the platform
3) You cannot go onto the bridge
It’s ridiculously fun to try and knock each other off.
I solo queue in ranked because I see absolutely zero reason to play unranked. Unranked has disgusting skyhammer.
Really what is the point of unranked? Am I supposed to care if I win or lose in ranked? Without any visible measurement of my rating or progression, there is no weight to ranked matches.
I would also like to know what the point of unranked is. It seems to just split the player base and make matchmaking 100% worse as the player base is half the size.
the ranked was made in order to have competitions and give rewards that they have done twice
cause of that they had to made the unranked also for ppl or teams that wanted to practice against others without ruining there scoredespite that i believe they should re-add the solo queue while keeping the others
They could just disable ranked off-season. Everyone gets put in unranked —> better queues, better matches?
Bring back: ‘Gamer’ title + MAT’s!
Throw out: Hotjoin!
i used to do it if in soloq and i was fighting hardconters…like if i was facing double thief comp while on shatter mes just getting hambow instead before match starts
but now i totally stopped caring bout ranked/unranked, with this matchmaking isn’t even worth the effort of swapping char since you’re gonna get condi mesmers, gs wars, p/p thieves and other bs straight from pve in your team anyway…and most times there’s no way to carry someone who manage to die 2v1 or 3v2 while going solo, to be somehow safe you need (At least) to be 2-3q so you can still manage 2 points even if other 2 guys are totally worthless, if you go solo you may end up winning 1v2 on close…then you look up and you see your team got totally wiped 4v3 already (Like 3 ppl mid facetanking lich instead of los, remove stab, cc him and so on..)
And there’s nothing you can do bout it…no matter what you play
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If devs don’t nerf them, why not buff them into the meta in ranked and unranked, so I’ll have some incentive to “L2P” against “Unviable for ranked but totally easy button for nubs” build that should not exist.
And to those people say “stay ranged and use condi and L2P”, I am a sword dagger thief, the best I can do is short bow bounce them all day long until the match end. Why should I have to switch out a spec that is tested and true against all other builds in game to deal with one single spec.
+1 for OP.
Disable Turrets in PvP Arena.
Turrets are way too OP.
Also, the argument of “premades vs pugs is rare” is a weak argument. Yes, the individual pug player may not experience a premade-vs-pugs scenario frequently, but that premade team will go on to continue steamrolling other pugs and spread more negative experiences to more players. That individual premade may go on to give hundreds of players negative pvp experiences.
I don’t see how that was any better than the current system.
One of the most popular and competitive games in the world, League of Legends, has a solo queue system. The reason is because it is an impartial system. Players learn and improve their mechanics more from equal-footing situations rather than getting steamrolled by premade teams vs pugs. Alternatively, premade teams gain more insight and experience from facing other premade teams rather than steamrolling pugs.
Also, from a population growth standpoint, it is beneficial to have an impartial solo queue system. When players have a negative experience in pvp, such as a premade team steamrolling pugs, the desire to participate in pvp decreases = less pvp activity = dead pvp. By having a solo queue, more players will have more positive pvp experiences, which encourages pvp participation.
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I need to know, is there an unofficial ritual that ask us pvp players to not press the “ready” button ever or I’m alone to think the worst of pvp is the waiting?
Why do you think we never ever get any match started sooner than when the timer expires despite having the possibility to do otherwise?
I’m just baffled…
/signed
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Dear ANet, I would appreciate it if you guys give this some very serious thought…
We NEED to separate solo queue from team queue.
There are way too many games which end up being premades vs solos, and it is not okay.
I agree, it can’t happen now, population won’t support it. But there’s no doubt there will be a huge influx of new players during HoT, so it can definitely be restructured then…
When HoT comes out:
- REMOVE hotjoins from game.
- Leave Unranked Queue as it is (Any sized party can go here)
- REWORK Ranked Queue into following:
- Add Ranked Solo/Duo Queue (Only solo queue, or duo queue—if you want to play with a friend)
- Add Team Queue (Only 5 man rosters)
Thanks for reading,
Ac
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soon, hotjoin will be merged into arena because not enough players
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As your Nerfing the Eng, Could you also have there turret disappear once they leave a cap wile they are at the other side of the map? …..I mean really? They don’t have to be there & there turrets gangking what ever shows up there. That’s just plain stupid.
Don’t worry OP, the only class that gets nerfed each time is Eles
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solo q should go back to being solo q, not premades and at
saw this coming. premades have always ruined non competetive matches for any game. anet seems intent on trying to remake the whole system and not looking into history.
Fighting whole guilds on unranked ???? How bad is this player base that you can’t matchup solo queue’d people against other solo queue’d ?
I ended up fighting 5 guildies, with another 1 of their guildies on my team, how fair is that? He was just running around their guildmates not even attacking them.
I don’t really care for an answer. I just wanted to share that if you can’t even get matchmaking right, ranked or not. How would it be entertaining to play ? WvW you guys don’t work on and ignore, PvP you guys work on alot and still sucks, enjoy your day.
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Lets see what we got FOR FREE since the wardrobe:Carapace: light, medium and heavy. 3 armour sets.
Glorious: light, medium and heavy. 3 armour sets.Since the wardrobe we have gotten 6 fully custiomizable armour sets. But they don’t count, right?
I said no set in the SHOP (gemstore) !!!
So lets see what we got before the wardrobe :
Aetherblade Heavy Armor Skin
Aetherblade Light Armor Skin
Aetherblade Medium Armor Skin
Braham’s Heavy Armor Skin
Flamekissed Light Armor Skin
Flamewalker Medium Armor Skin
Flamewrath Heavy Armor Skin
Incarnate Light Armor Skin
Krytan Medium Armor Skin
Magitech Medium Armor Skin
Phalanx Heavy-Armor Skin
Phoenix Light Armor Skin
Primeval Heavy Armor Skin
Profane Light Armor Skin
Rampart Heavy Armor Skin
Strider’s Medium Armor Skin
Trickster’s Light-Armor Skin
Viper’s Medium-Armor Skin
Zodiac Heavy Armor Skin
Zodiac Light Armor Skin
Zodiac Medium Armor Skin
You see the difference of before and after the wardrobe ??
Best MMOs are the ones that never make it. Therefore Stargate Online wins.
People complain that it is an outfit.
But had it been an armour set then people would complain that they had to buy the entire set just to use 1 piece they like, and then have to spend transmutation charges.
since when was this EVER a problem? Its kittening obvios that if its a skin PACK and you only want one skin you will need to have to buy said PACK to get the skin you want. Also transmutation charges are not expensive AND drop till the cows come home in pvp aswell map completion and black lion chests. Also… at outfits i got NO chance in hell to get just the piece i like… and THATS the issue, thats why people complain. There might be pieces they dont like on an outfit and want to replace them with parts they DO like..or the other way arround and use pieces on the look they got right now from the new sets. Also people do complain cause the outfits do bring in so many interresting pieces but right away shove you a middle finger into the nose if you even think about combining them. Id buy the darn armor just for pauldrons and gloves alone for example. Also 4 colour slots? kittening really? Well it looks like at the new armor only can colour its cape anyways..but thats besides the point even if it makes my complains even more valid.
Visuals are end game, means you most likely will spend a lot of time putting your look together and update it with new parts as stuff gets released you find appealing and outfits turn you into a drone that looks like the other guy with the same outfit. If you wanna look like everybody else.. then by all means by my guest… but i refuse to pay 8 bucks for a look thats as flexible as a concrete slap and i will keep complaining about them cause what else do we got besides visual end game atm? Nothing… so atleast that stuff should bring some fresh air. “b-but basalt its for leveling and stuff and i can have 2 looks and stuff” yea and arent 18 of these darn things enough for that? No… gotta have another kittening 3 datamined and one including the anise´s armor thingy that people ask for since game release date. Prepare for the kittenstorm once thats released as an outfit… i personally dont care about the look but man… thats gonna be a wild ride.
Also to release atleast here and there some skin packs BETWEEN this outfit cancer would be too much right? Maybe would keep people somewhat calm cause many (me included) WANT NEW PARTS and they dont get new parts… or rarely. Yea.. 2 new armors per weight class…one beeing a clone of the other with static and blue colour and 3 weightless pieces you cant even colour fully really hold up to the outfit galore recently. Cant speak for everybody but the “play like you want” is becoming more and more “play like we say, dress like we dictate (and if the armor really only can colour the cape also) colour your armor like we tell you to do”
People complain that it is an outfit.
But had it been an armour set then people would complain that they had to buy the entire set just to use 1 piece they like, and then have to spend transmutation charges.
I would like it if they sold the pieces separately myself but if you buy the set it comes out cheaper. Like City of Heroes use to do.
I’ve never complained I have to buy whole set of armors. So plz speak for yourself or don’t speak at all.
Oh it’s outfit, no money from me for lazy skins.
Make it an armor so I can mix’n’match and you’ll see my money.
Ughh, another outfit.
More wings? I thought we were past this lunacy.
Agreed…
I cant even find the right words. I just…. nevermind…
To easy to get this if its just a gem item literally everyone will use it and kinda ruin it…
In case some people don’t realize it, there are private PvP rooms now set up just to get dailies done. They usually say Dailies, No Trolling or something like that. Even though I’m mostly a PvE player I often end up getting dailies there because its’ faster and cooperative.
Today 3 people let me kill them for my daily player kills, I capped a point and won on a guardian all in one game, without PvPing at all. Just saying.
Was it fun?