Guild Wars 2

Ranger: 300 tries, 5 different builds, best try: 50% → gave up

Warrior: third try, GS/LB 0/30/20/0/20, full Magic Find gear, no bufffood.

It’s Fun and you can really wreck some classes, but as soon as you enemies get a little more tanky/evasive you are screwed.

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DeWolfe—Best ranger outfit NA?

Nopes. Just nopes.

Hey guys!

Is there any viable GS/LB dungeon build? I want to focus in damage and mightstacking support, so I dont need top dps.

Any suggestions?

After 300 tries (sad but true) I gave up and switched to my FULL MAGIC FIND GEAR Warrior. Did it in my third try. No Bufffood.

I don’t want to say that I’m a great warrior player – I just confirm, that Rangers are once again ******** hard in the behind by Anet.

Spirit Rangers dont have stealth.
The spirits die in 1-2 AoEs.
0-1 Stunbreaks, depending on how many spirits you want.
spirit active effects cannot be used on targets and spirits location is not controllable, they take ages to finish and almost never actually hit something (exception: 5v5 zerg)

I’d still like to see you fight against a good LB/GS (or LB/SW+WH) Ranger.
As much as I rocked with my warrior using your build, I totally wreck warriors using this build with my ranger.
I am not a very good sPvP player, so imho a ranger could be a pretty tough matchup for you.

Swap berserkers amulet for Rampagers. -> profit (you can keep the gem though)

This is no QQ thread, I’m fine with the outcome of the vote (although as we all know Evon was the far better candidate :-P )

My problem with the whole thing is, that I think Evon started at a bad place.
Kiel was the Hero of the past few updates and people had a chance to get to know her better.
When Evon came up, he was introduced as the bad guy, the antagonist.
This made me spend my first few tokens for Kiel.
as I realized, that Evon might just be the more exciting character (for me) I felt a bit – cheated on. I didn’t know this guy at all, I had no idea what was going on.
In the end, I spend like 60/40 for Evon

So IMHO, Evon should have gotte na bigger role in the last few updates to let the playerbase get to know him better.

All I can hope for is, that ANET doesn’t let Evon die in a quiet corner.
As the vote was very tight, you should consider adding more relevant story to and around Evon Gnashblade.

Chopps.5047:

This post is so last December. Ranger is in the current meta fastest dungeon runs as well as a top tPvP profession.

The first time I have to agree with you.
One exception: rangers are forced into defensive condition builds (BM/Spirits) and Power rangers are in most cases useless in high level tPvP (although a lot of fun in sPvP)

Awesome video, Awesome skills.
As for your Ranger impression: as of the latest update, a lot more Rangers run LB/GS Zerker or similar setups (maybe some soldiers gear etc. etc.) with great ways to keep distance and a newly gained stealth on LB #3
I’d like to see you fight one of those since they have a great potential to kite you and many possible stunbreakers (you can run 3 sstunbreakers and still have a viable build) combined with pretty good damage.

What build is used in that Video?
I want to get my warrior back out of my closet and try some nice power based builds

In fact, I leveled my ranger before my Elementalist, because I got confused with how many skills the ele has.
at the same time, I cursed my pet so often…

I’d say keep the axe and swap OH for Warhorn.
Axe 3 puts weakness on your enemy + chill, thats pretty good if you take the support role.
OH warhorn gives awesome buffs, a blastfinisher and some good damage too.
This way you can really save your mates in tight situations.
drop your healing spring, use Warhorn 5 and give them some good health.

For Offhand, I’d use Sword/Axe
Sword gives awesome evades and cripples plus the best damage we have.
Axe is an awesome weapon to save your allies from ranged attacks and can easily save lives.
You can for example use Axe 5 to protect a downed Mate while others keep rezzing.
since you already traited Offhandtraining, this would be a very good addition to your support build.
Also: Axe 4 is a pretty good single target skill and can interrupt enemies with it’s pull when timed right.

For WvW roaming you can keep the Signet, but for Dungeons I’d pick another spirit.
(Sun Spirit would be good to boost your mates damage)

As you dont have a bow anymore, you can swap your Skirmishing X to IX

Get zerker gear and you have a perfect dungeon build.

Keep in mind, that the Ranger deals low damage with his whirling axes and is rooted in place.
I dont think you want to be rooted only to block projectiles…

Warriors have low damage?
I suggest go play a ranger then. This thread is more or less a joke!

I admit, I stopped playing my warrior last year. But not because of “low damage” or “low sustain” (and we were a lot worse back then!)
I still like to take out my warri for one or two sPvP matches some time.
Warriors got some awesome updates, amazing condition removal (something rangers can only dream about!), amazing stun abilities and many viable builds comming up since the last patches.
Im not saying that the warrior reached the top of the foodchain, but it is most certainly not the bottom anymore.
A few months ago (as a ranger) I simply sent my pet to get rid of nasty warriors – now I think twice about starting a fight with them at all.

In dungeons, warriors are still No.1 pick and there is nothing more awesome then a zerker warri.

Ryan.8367:

Playing against a good condition longbow s/s warrior with the torment / bleed stacking , great condition removal in hoelbrak/melandru and 2k toughness and now with much better condition removal in the class itself you’ll find yourself having a VERY hard time no matter what ranger build you throw at it. It actually is quite powerful and pretty anti-ranger with the reflection , aoe fields (fire dmg) and multiple torment and bleed stacking and the immoblization as well (pin down, etc) . It hasn’t surfaced yet much but it will once more and more warriors catch on. It’s easily the toughest warrior build I’ve ever faced and a warrior in our guild is very kitten good with it and kills most people you throw at it save for some very sneaky phant mesmers who usually end the duel with 10% hp themselves if not less. This is sPvP not wvw , not sure how it even pans in WvW.

Also keep in mind, with the aoes, and condi transfer of bleeds / burns and now torment which your pet will automatically take 150% dmg of because you can’t stop a pet ever even if you wanted to, it mutilates pets , it’s kind of crazy how fast they die even in full BM.

Could you give me a link tothat buil BM?

IMHO bumping 3 Month old threads is always a good idea. There is always up to date information and ongoing discussions going on.

/sarcasm off

Hey guys!

Imho, Point Blank Shot is a great skill on our Longbow, but it has 1 big issue:
The casttime of 1/2 second makes it really hard to use properly.
Interrupting a skill becomes a lot harder if you consider the time it takes to fire the arrow + the time it needs to travel. To make it hit it needs approximately 1 second to hit and therefor it is pretty darn hard to interrupt enemy spells with it.

Another issue is, that you have a hard time using it on close targets as they move around you to quickly. (talking about melee range here).

So please ANET, reduce / remove the casttime from PBS.
Our No. 3 skill has no casttime either and it feels jsut right.

Dukenikum.3982:

>Mal
Yeah i should use 5 more is very useful. I don’t use my pets very well in battle but the Jags stealth for the opening hit is useful and the Wolf’s howl when you go down early can be a life saver.

>Aeri
I questioned using the spirit also but from what i read about it is required to do best damage(might be wrong on that) since the trait Vigorous Spirits will boost spirits 35% and the Frost Spirit gives 35% chance for 10% bonus damage it really has 70% chance. Not to sure on its max range or how to see the difference in battle.

About the 5% range i think you are kinda right. But which would really be better the Beastmaster Bond or Might i’m thinking Might but my pet does get killed often making Bond kinda useful. And also the Piercing Arrows i did use but with this build i seem to be favoring the GS more now.\

As for dungeons it works well on many but a few where you must hold capture points can be a challenge with its low defense.

Piercing Arrows

For a WvW build I would never use spirits, unless you trait them to be able to move.
You will most likely not sit in the same spot to make best use of your spirit, so I’d go for something else.

Either 30/30/10 for some extra toughness, or (what I like far more atm) 30/25/15 for Protection on dodgerolls.
Also: Take piercing arrows! the 5% extra range are only usefull if deffing a keep. (and then you would swap it for signet of the beastmaster)

As a Dungeon build, I totally agree with your build. But not for WvW.

As I dont care for Zhaitan at all (defeated him twice, nothing changed in the world, bad design!) I really want to start getting involved in the issues of my race.
Fighting bandits, centaurs etc. THAT felt alot better than fighting against a dragon you never actually see and have no real intention to actually beat.
The overall design in the later stories got very depressing and dark. I hate undead.

Please Anet: make our personal story continue – but dont fail so hard at it again.

I run a very similar build and I highly suggest you try it out:

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-F;5FFx-a2ZDV-0;9k2L;1TOE;017B49-3;6J-F7;2zxrUzxrUn-Fz0-35;3U-YWbXh2nZs42s-G-1k;5F2CoF2Co;9;9;9;9;7V8-6R

you have 3 stunbreakers, a great amount of cc through spider and wolf (+ traited condition duration for pets!) and a very good amoutn of damage.
It’s a great deal of fun ;-)

PS: For roaming I always swap LR to SotH to overcome slow movement speed.
If you feel you even need it in combat you can swap it our for one of the other utility skills.
Not sure which one I would pick though…

If you encounter a very well played warrior, there is most likely one thing happening:
The warrior turns around and starts running as fast as he can and/or ports to a Waypoint as soon as he can.

If encountering warriors who do not yet know their place, I suggest just dodging their stun once and then shredding them to pieces. At the same time you could safe yourself some time and do the laundry, walk the dog etc. etc.

TL;DR: Ranger is far superior to warriors and there is nothing much you can do as long as you are able to dogde and/or have a stunbreaker.

I hope you guys realize, that spear or whip or lightsaber and all that stuff is never going to happen.
We are talking about giving the ranger 1 additional mainhand weapon.
A new weapon would require complete rebalance of the game. Not gonna happen.
An already existing weapon on the other hand, coul possibly be added (although unlikely, too)
I would prefer Dagger.

As soon as you complete your personal story, there is nothing personal going on in GW2 anymore. (at all)

Here is my Suggestion: Open World Stories

What is it?
Think of it like personal stories, but not as long and available to every race.
These are like additional quests you can take on with your buddies and guildmates.
It may be a single quest or a chain telling a small story. You can once again fight for the villagers and support them by getting rid of Centaurs or Bandits, finding lost people etc. etc.
Open World Stories are, like Personal Stories, instanced and therefore not getting in the way of other people.

How exactly?
Let’s say, after you finished all hearts on a map (to make things interesting) Open World Stories become available for you.
They will look like those green stars indicating Personal Stories, but maybe another color.
After finishing the Open World Story, it’s done and you can not start it again.
You may still join another player doing his story of course.
As said before, this could be a small chain, or a single story.
This could be perfectly combined with additional achievements.

Any Reward doing so?
Yes. First of all: you helped the people once again. And this time they don’t forgett about you and get the same problem 200 times a day.
If you approach a village you helped out in an open world story, they will thank you and remind you of what you have done for them. This way, you have something that really makes the world change.

(arguable) They might even sell things to you that you could not buy before (at least from them).
A lumber mill maybe offers you to buy some wood once a day for a good price and so on.
Another thing could be a small reward in terms of gold/xp/karma and maybe a buff lasting for 10 minutes.
There are many possibilities that are possible, but this is not the center of my idea.

Any meaningfull decisions?
Take this example: A village asks you to recover stolen goods from a group of bandits.
Once you got your hands on those goods, you decide what to do:
Give it back to help our the village or keep it for yourself?
Depending on your decision, in the open world the people of the village approach you differently.

Why the hell?
I really like the personal story idea, but ANET did made it very poorly.
Not only is it quite short, it’s also completely irrelevant. And it has Trahearn. We hate Trahearn.
There are many people like me, who liked the first few story missions a lot more than fighting against big old Zhaitan.
Additionally, there are people who didn’t make a character for every race.
Open World Stories are a brilliant way to let people take part in other races culture and problems.

What do you think about it?
Be reminded, that saying just “nopes” doesn’t help anybody.
If you don’t agree with this concept, maybe point out what you don’t like about it and make a suggestion how to make it better.
If you just don’t care for the stories at all, don’t bother and move along.
Please keep this topic as constructive as you can.

On my ranger, for every racial skill there is a ranger skill far better.

Take the healing:
Heal as One: 6520 HP for the Ranger AND his Pet
Prayer to Dwayne: 6520 HP for the Ranger only

Signet of Renewal: remove 1 condition every 10 seconds. Active: remove all conditions. Breaks stuns.
Prayer to Kormir: remove 3 conditions

Just joined a CoF group for a quick run and the general group damage was pretty kitten low.
So I told the party, that traiting for damage would be a nice thing.
The answer was as expected: “a ranger shouldnt talk about damage of other classes”
As I explained them, that ranger is easily capable of dealing a very good amount of damage, even similar to warriors, they jsut started making fun of me and finally kicked me…

Kids these days…

So basicly, you are saying it’s the damage that bothers you?

Ryan.8367:

it’s just more passive killing of your pet and even faster with no option to stop. You can only pet swap so much in a given time.

Because that says nothing else.
It’s JUST 1 condition more, and in a trade of losing other conditions in the example of warrior

I just tought this is a joke, when I read it.
Everything we ever wanted in ONE patch.
Stealth, blastfinisher, and so on.

SOOOOOO HAPPY!
THANKS ANET!

kitten it >_<
is there no way to get that on my char?

Crawford.4135:

My Thief wearing four different sets are Armor types.

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What legs and boots are these?
I hope this is not Norn only

IMHO: Pheonix is a bit bigger than ravens.

F2 Ability:
The Pheonix explodes, turning himself to ashes and dealing damage to nearby enemies. Combofinisher: Blast
The Pheonix then becomes unable to attack / be attacked for 2 (3?) seconds, while healing itself for 1/3 of its current (maximum?) health

Standard attack: like bird
Second ability: The Pheonix hurls its enemy in flames, dealing damage and burnign them for 3 (2?) seconds

yes 16 characters

I want to be able to play as one of those Polarteddies running around in the northern areas.
They look so majestic and powerfull :O

IMHO:

1) ANet already failed to FIX the skills before balancing them.
They based their balancing on many broken skills that, if working like intended, would change the whole game balance.
What ANet did looked like they have no idea how to properly maintain the existing skills and traits. You dont need skills in programming to realize, that the thing to fix first is the base, not the top of the mountain.

Right now there are still to many broken traits that really need a fix.

2) With adding more skills and traits while not having fixed and balanced the old skills, ANet is basicly just ignoring the problem by adding MORE problems.
More skills to fix and balance. Old skills might need additional balancing to compensate the new skills – a vicious cycle

3) Saying the above this might sound stupid, but:
We also NEED new Skills and Traits.
So many classes are cornered into 1/2 viable builds. (Take the ranger: BM/Spirit or gtfo) We need a REAL build diversity and therefore we need new skills, new traits, new weapons or secondary weaponskillsets.
If ANet does a good job here, this could give the game the depth it needs.
Character development is very superficial. Very easy to access and no way of “perfection”.

Most of this is completely over the top.

I totally understand what you are saying there, and for me it sounds like cry cry.

Me neitheeeeeeeeeeeeeeer

Ofc they can, you just have to stop using lick wounds.
In fact, we are one of the strongest classes – when downed (sad but true)
Most classes can not expect to kill another player once they are downed (and their enemy not), but Rangers have the capability to deal a good amount of damage when downed through their pets while keeping enemies from stomping them.

Often enough my pet managed to down my (ofc already quite hurt) enemy and then I could you lick wounds to heal up.
Since you can use your 2 skill you can defend yourself from stomps in that time quite good.

I am not saying you are invincible, but you are a pain in the kitten for your enemy if you are able to controll your pets properly.

try double tapping a movement key to counter a thief.

the skill is so freaking strong already, and you complain about it not beeing better? xD
are you serious?
1 Player can hardly down you by damage if you are ressurrected by your pet + you can still use Abilities of your pets to prevent them from stomping!
(with drake + wolve you have 3 pet CC’s + downed 2 mostly two times)

no, its based on my own success and the knowledge about how difficult this dungeon is.

You didnt get my point.
I am talking about the PvP achievement. Right now there is almost nothing to do and you can complete it easily in 2 evenings.
Adding more stuff to do would give more variety to the achievment and would make it a little harder to get.

I Like the new dungeon, and I dont care if it’s temporary or not (since there is nothing more to earn there anyways ^^)

It was fun and challenging to complete it.
It felt rewarding to be one of the few who managed to get all the achievments.

We defeated Zhaitan, we fought undead for Months.
We guarded the good people in Orr and survived millions of undead.

And nothing changed.

IMHO, Orr is the area suited best (by far!) for a living world update.
A big finale, a great battle. and then start rebuilding orr.
Help your fellow mates healing the country and making a civilized and beautifull region.
Defeat the last Undead lurking around in the deeps and finally get the sence of achievment we all wished for: the feeling that you not only beat Zhaitan, but also his army. You crossed his plans and returned the tormented land back to it’s former glory.

- disucss

These Daylies are joke.
It takes like 3 matches to get the daylie and a maximum of 10 matches for the Monthly.
These achievments are the only thing you can work for in sPVP, since reaching lvl 80 is near impossible (math did by someone else on another thread).

IMHO: the PVP achievment should also contain WvW and some more things you have to do.
Win 5 Battle of Khylo, stuff like that.
Note: the WvW addition should never lead to people being forced to play WvW, but it could be an alternative to the boring sPvP achievments

2 Points:

1) Your behavior really were antisocial and I would definetly put you on igno and would never ever do a dungeon with you again.

2) there is no report functionality for antisocial behaviour like this, so why bother?