Are these rumors spawning from the hopes and dreams of the same people who had “rumors” of a new race on July 1st? Or is there official chatter that suggests this might be happening?
There is a rumor/comment from a korean holdings company, talking about anet and a supposed paid expansion release alas gw1 for next year.
So given the rumored 2015 expansion, is Anet up to the challenge of fixing the game?, we know for a fact that Blizzard make complete reworks of stats and skills, is Anet up to the same lvl?.
Among the many things that need fixing.
1- Getting rid of intensity stacking buffs and debuffs: Just no, Half or more of the stacking comes for the most part, passive effects aka juggernaut or sharpshooter, or from passive triggers linked to stuff you any way but not specifically to increase the count aka weapon swapping or using healing skills. In reality you are only consciously triggering may be 6-8 stacks tops, out of 25, this is unnecessary clutter.
My Suggestion: First get rid of stacking, make it flat if anything make it duration stacking, second Change this so that you trigger a significant skill say once every 30 seconds for 30 buff/debuff duration. You will trigger before and may be mid fight, removes the clutter, which this game has TONS of.
2- Make them less, more meaningful skills: GW1, had 8 skills, WoW has cracked down on skills number on the new expac. GW2 has 11 to 20 skills depending on your class. Half of them you dont use, half of them you use them once every couple of fights. To make matters worse you have to go gear hopping to make the combination you need unless you macro it out.
My suggestion: get rid of every 60s+ CD skills, make CDs shorter but more meaningful, 30s CD means effectively 1 or 2 per fight.
3- Remove auto attack from the skill bars: Auto attack is exactly that, it should not be on you skill bar, much less so when you cant customize it.
My suggestion: Make a proper auto attack, replace with relevant skill.
4- If you are going to have a frantic game with ground targeted auto attacks aka grenades, you cant remove or not center your mouse when moving your camera (right mouse button).
My suggestion: Add an “Action camera mode”, make character behavior the same as if you were holding down right mouse button, but have your pointer centered and functional at say 1/4 or 1/3 from the top of the screen.
Thats too bad, i hoped that with the dyeing population they have they would have realized by this point, that this sucks.
Today i entered lions arch and rata and they are basically dead…
I so very much loved GW1 and was So very much Utterly disappointing with GW2, now im aching for an mmo, so my question is if this issues are still in the game.
1- When i left more than a year ago, this game should have been called kite wars, is this still the case?
2- The game had a god awful stacking system for buffs and debuffs, with no UI customization which made it all the worse as it was harder to track, are both this issues still present?
3- Lack of proper trinity (healers in particular) made spvp dreadful and next to nobody played it, ironic in a pvp oriented game, are healers still missing?.
Why are developers silent?
Here is discussed the most important problem of GW2, and we do not have any comments.Except for something unintelligible.
Players won’t be brainstorming game’s problems if they are ignored.It is two-way process.
People have spoken, they want more GW1 and less of the mess that is GW2. Devs stay silent because the only other option is to say NO.
Tournaments are being organised since CA/SM are in beta.
Thus none existent. When and if they are established and popular, like GW1 was, like SC is or as the absolute king of Esport LOL is. Then we can talk again.
I said “professional”, if you are looking for something sort of professional for GW2, there just isnt, plain and simple.
If he is looking to take up something just for the sake of taking it up and make it competitive, well yeah sure, he might as well do the same on farmville for what it matters.
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People for Christ sake, reality check, no one is going to watch a boring game. People that watch football, played it at some point and enjoyed it or have some background related to it (high school or local team or what ever), thus now watch it and enjoy it at a professional lvl. This is NOT true for GW2. What ever popularity this game might have inherited from GW1 it has long since been kitten ed away.
If the game was fun to play, if it could stand on its own completely separated from GW1, it would not be in the dire need of saving it is now.
Most people bought this game, expecting an evolution from GW1, it is not, and its population and popularity has plummeted accordingly.
Unless GW2 breaks away from this failed pvp model and goes back to the trinity and hopefully something closer still to GW1, it will not be fun nor what the people want out of it.
No amount of shout casting accessories or bells and whistles is going to change that, for anyone to be interested in what “pros” do, they have to be interested in the game FIRST. Otherwise it will be “pros” watching “pros” which amounts to a few viewers and that is it.
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4- I would say is night impossible, regardless whether you can get a team or not, the tournament scene for GW2 is none existent. So if you are looking at GW2 for a sort of professional gamer approach, i would say look elsewhere.
Wow 9 months after release, 23 active Guilds total, can we now declare the GW2 pvp experiment officially failed and get back to basics?
Yes, lets quote a post that is intended to help guilds that need people find more members where people have to volunteer their information on a forum visited by like 10% of the game population and say the game is dead.
Logic.
Mmm 10%, must be the same people that still play this game´s pvp.
Lol this is so sad and true. There is always a moron that needs to be “original” and kittens things up.
what’s funny is gw2 had a good chance to make no-healer pvp combat work — it can work — but they decided it was best to just emulate fps games and call it a day.
Every time i hear this, i imagine a dev in fetal position with his hands on his ears repeating this non stop.
They keep repeating it, and it keeps failing. Just let it die with a little dignity and call it a day already.
Wow 9 months after release, 23 active Guilds total, can we now declare the GW2 pvp experiment officially failed and get back to basics?
1- Dedicated Healers.
2- An end to the kiting wars model.
3- More game modes.
Well, really they don’t need all four of them. The archetypes typically go something like,
Warrior – Immobile, tanky, lots of damage
In kiting wars this design is simply not viable.
Why wouldn’t it be viable? Warriors aren’t ever going to be good solo, and this design actually allows them to contribute to team fights without blowing up instantly. Warriors have probably some of the best CC in the game. I can keep immobilize up on a single target with something like 70-80% uptime, and this is with a standard 100B build.
I stand corrected it clearly works and is used by pro players… not.
Well, really they don’t need all four of them. The archetypes typically go something like,
Warrior – Immobile, tanky, lots of damage
In kiting wars this design is simply not viable. They have had 8+ months to prove me wrong and they still fail at it.
^agree, proper healers need to make a comeback with a vengeance, its the only thing that can save this game.
Dead men hold no points, trying to balance around it is an exercise in futility.
How many times do we have to go over the same thing, warrior being melee needs health sustain gap closing AND damage. All four of them, the game being as heavily dominated by ranged and kiting makes any of those missing a crippling blow to the warrior. Ranged has an innate advantage of constant damage, melee gets in does a couple K damage and it becomes yet again a chasing tag game, where he will be receiving constant damage. Having 50% “snare” reduction does not work, kiting and crippling effects on this game, including AOE ones are extremely spamable, gap closer are not.
Dead men hold no points, trying to balance around it is an exercise in futility.
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Still kiting wars so no, until they dont fix melee this game will never be popular.
OP, just stop. Your past 10 posts at least have been nothing but spewing bullkitten about “range dominating melee.” Stop playing clusterkitten hotjoins and you’ll see just how long you last staying at range.
How about they do something to change my and apparently other peoples mind as well?.
it’s really up to us. I personally would like to see some competition going, so I’m thinking when opportunity presents, I can fork out a bit of cash and collaborate with someone to kick off a real money tournament.
it doesn’t matter what the player base is. it doesn’t matter what the viewership is. pro football was non-existent until someone put up some cash and organized a league.
if you build it they will come.
I know that pros chase money, and if we put some up, even if it’s a small amount – people will come out of retirement to play for a day and swoop it.
I’m thinking of doing this. I also encourage other people with businesses or something to promote to work with the casters of the gw2 community and make something happen.
cheers!
The only 1 thing a game really needs to become an esport is to be popular, the rest can be tinkered with into place. At its current incarnation GW2 pvp is very unpopular, they broke away with their own true and tested class differentiation from GW1 massively disappointing their established fan base, range clearly and easily dominates melee across the board, clunky UI with little customization, everything based around CDs also breaks the immersion into the game, your character is not running out of resources, it simply blew his get out of jail for free cards. This all puts people off and until they choose to go back to GW1 model, which i hope they do before they try to sell the expansions (else they are in for a reality check).
I mean, instead of Guild Wars, we have kiting wars, thus this disappointing (if esport is what you expected) result.
Until i see these changes implemented, i am not interested on this attempting a half cooked esport and i am actively recommending against buying the game to friends and family. Hell i get a better pvp experience from LoL than this, and they had YEARS of experience doing this in GW1 before LOL even came to be.
Dude, this is kiting wars, its the way the game works.
You’d rather have respawn wars?
No, i would rather have a proper healer class, but since that is not an option given the lack of resource management in this game, i would settle for melee to be meaningful, which at this point isnt.
it’s your fault if you don’t diversify and grab a ranged and melee wep.
Oh no i get you, a ranged melee… that sure makes sense.
Also this skill makes it a bit to easy to disengage from a fight, and with the balance being in a HUGE favor for ranged vs melee damage, this change is much needed. Now they need to tone down other escape tools if they want to give melee builds a fighting chance.
So much of this. I am so tired of playing Kiting wars, which will only get exacerbated by custom arenas.
I am sure they have already considered this, but with no points to control it will exacerbate ranged dominance over melee.
Hope this was taken into account for tomorrows patch (doubt it), lets see if guardians join the not so illustrious place warriors own at this time.
Dude, this is kiting wars, its the way the game works.
The change is warranted, there is simply too much kiting flying around, they decided best to reduce the kiting rather than increase melee ability to catch up.
I for one am really glad there’s no healers required in this game. Enjoyed the combat much more in this game than in GW1.
Its of course your right, you are also the first person i hear state this. And i do own GW1 and expansions for the record.
Also, who would they sell to? pvp is almost dead.
no its not, pvp right now is in its healthier state of the past ~~5 months
And that is a good thing precisely how?
Also, who would they sell to? pvp is almost dead.
when I started playing it was kinda unbearable for me. The camera and movement controls were kinda meh and the combat system seemed messy at best. Has any of this improved( I really took a liking to how responsive the camera movements on WoW was). Not a fan boy of any kind just wondering if they made arenas and such yet. .
Same mess as it was before, still no proper healer despite devs claiming they want to slow pvp down, same messy weapon switching mechanic, ranged still dominates melee.
Just watched the STOG, its funny they want to “slow” the game, yet they refuse to put in proper healers, talk about an exercise in futility…
No mention what so ever to warrior lack of damage and gap closing.
Gotta love this game, its like watching a train wreck in slow mo
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So essentially we are still screwed then…
I have seen a few talent rehashes but nothing to our mobility (or lack of it) are we still screwed after the patch?
Server is irrelevant, all tPvP queues are cross server.
Man that is even worse, you mean to tell me i came across the same dudes in a cross server Q?, then spvp on this game is on life support…
This is why solo queue must be separated from 5-man team queue. Of course pugs will “naturally” be separated from premades on average due to rating, but whenever a particular pug player performs exceptionally well and carries for multiple games, he will get knocked back down by a premade, so his potential MMR is capped. It’s a glass ceiling.
Due to the lack of proper support, more game modes and the kitten advantage of kiting vs melee, SPVP is almost DEAD you simply can not separate the Qs if you expect to play more than 1 game per afternoon.
Queues are already pretty much insta-pop most of the time. Combine that with the fact that generally a player won’t even see the same opponent 2 times in a day of play and you see we have a MUCH larger playerbase than you’d lead people to believe.
Says you, last Saturday on Sorrow Furnace (hi pop) i run into the same 3 or 4 guys over and over again, teamed with and against. I think most people over estimate how big the pvp pop on this game is, on weekends half the pvp servers are empty or being used to duel…
I like it because every one on this thread assumes there is a pool of players to choose from to get an average rating. My guess is the system is what it is because of the lack of pvp player base, hence it uses what it has.
Burst damage and more generally the pace of the game is a core issue of Gw2’s combat. It’s what makes the game so hard to learn and it needs to be fixed so that new players can come into pvp throughout the game’s life without tearing their hair apart.
Lol, guess what it is that slows games down and forces tactics on the teams, hint it is the only one of the trinity left out of this game.
@Thesilentflute
I kinda agree on some level, almost all my builds have sword/warhorn so I can escape whenever things get hairy. The problem is I hate playing like this. Warriors shouldn’t be about hit and runs, we’re supposed to be the first ones in and stay in the whole fight. I would gladly take an overall DPS nerf in PvP if it they increased out survivability.
Dont worry, Anet in keeping with current game design will proceed to increase our bow and rifle damage and make us a proper ranged class.
16) What does it mean? “8 times the amount of space”? You mean like database or code where it takes more space and making the game slower?
He meant storage space on the servers. Users would not be affected.
They should buy some more TeraByte storage then… or if it was only some more GigaByte or MegaByte it probably should not be a problem…
Well it depends entirely on what they are running now. If they are using something like 2% of their storage capacity, then the change would not have that big of an impact. Thou usually this is not the case, companies tend to run servers on as minimum specs as possible, god knows why, the cost increase is marginal (specially for this in particular). If they were outsourcing the servers or the storage solutions, then i guess it would make more sense, thou not really.
You have to realize it is times 8 for current accounts, which is then doubled or tripled (or what ever they used) for storage redundancies and safety and so on. So it is more than just plug an extra 5 tera disk and be done with it (thou not that much i admit)
Yeah, i have to agree, that is not feasible. Also i do not believe this game is a failure financial wise. The cost of running servers is actually pretty low, and this game has sold several million copies, thus essentially paying it self and the foreseeable future.
If we talk expansions how ever, then there i would agree, in all honestly having owned GW1 expacs, i would not buy a GW2 in its current state. I feel many would agree.
Micro transactions require a sizable player base to work, how big? no idea, but i would not bank on it.
16) What does it mean? “8 times the amount of space”? You mean like database or code where it takes more space and making the game slower?
He meant storage space on the servers. Users would not be affected.
I think its pretty obvious that GW2 was rushed out the door unfinished just like 99% of MMORPGs. I’m sure they thought they would get the resources needed to add the lacking features to spvp rather quickly but they never materialized due to the popularity of PVE and especially WvWvW.
Well i was not talking about GW2 in particular, but rather a tendency i see with this games.
16- Ability to stack more than one piece of the same gear in locker, 2 would be ideal.
16) The limit of 1 is a technical limitation.
I thank you for your time here, but dude that is plain sad, where did you outsource the code for this to?.
Collections can clearly support more than 1 item per slot, as seen elsewhere in the game. The problem is that it takes 8 times the amount of space to support more than 1, and PvP has a ton of items. In this case, “technical limitation” means size constraints.
Hi Evan,
What do you think of using a similar system for sPvP skins as the HoM rewards?
Change the chest reward system to reward 1-time skin unlocks instead of items. Change the RNG result handling logic of the chests to reward a certain number of pvp materials for each skin that the player has already unlocked. This system would essentially result in the same rewards as a player who salvages all skins that he has already collected in the current system.
Let there be a basic set of merchants similar to what we have right now that sells the basic weapons/armors/amulets/sigils/runes. And add in a special Weapon/Armor merchant that sells unlimited copies of skins that you have unlocked for 0 glory.
Unless I missed some important loophole I believe this system would solve most of the inventory related issues on the list when combined with a proper template system. And it seems to me that you have most of the required infrastructure in place.
Thanks for taking the time to respond. =)
This would work, it would change nothing storage size wise on the servers.
Collections can clearly support more than 1 item per slot, as seen elsewhere in the game. The problem is that it takes 8 times the amount of space to support more than 1, and PvP has a ton of items. In this case, “technical limitation” means size constraints.
To make collection store 2 items instead of 1 is only twice amount of space.(2bits instead of 1), and you also don’t need 2 slots for all the items, only for specific weapon types(e.g. daggers), so i suppose it is maybe 10% larger at max.Such small fix would definitely help untill fully featured unlock-system will come in place.
Programing does not work that way, what the dev is saying is technically correct of course, because they are likely working with an 8 bit format integer (up to 256) rather than a Boolean type (1 bit true or false).
Having said that, server storage is not precisely expensive now days, specially considering that is 1 collection per account and not character.
As sad as it is, they already replied this can not be done because of technical impossibilities.
16- Ability to stack more than one piece of the same gear in locker, 2 would be ideal.
16) The limit of 1 is a technical limitation.
I thank you for your time here, but dude that is plain sad, where did you outsource the code for this to?.
Not me personally. I do find it fun, but to me when i play it, i get into a competition mind set.
I think in most mmos, in this one in particular far more than in others, it is the pve aspect which is done just for fun and giggles.
I am both serious and curious about this. As broken as this game is, it is far from the only one to reach this “glorified” status, so as to not aggravate the loyal fanboys here, i am going to use examples from other games.
Take wow pve, take Paladins, from the very get go they had 3 specs, Healer, Tank and DPS. Tank was simply inferior to other tanks, both in health pool and damage mitigation. The DPS spec had no CC in a game where every DPS class was EXPECTED to bring CC for dungeons. This flaws were pointed out, literally for YEARS, before devs acted on them. Same was for longer still lacking in resource sustain and damage in pvp.
So, my question is, what is it that makes Devs blind to what is mostly obvious for the grand majority of the player base?.
And may be more important, how broken, how failed, does a mechanic need to get before Devs acknowledge it and scrap it?.
Is there like a technical analysis to it? does it go entirely on gut feeling? does dev ego play into it?(not being offensive every one needs a healthy dose of ego).
Yes it is, if you removed the only really competent melee class in the game, this would degenerate into a shooting gallery (even more so than it already is), it would be CoD with out the first person camera and the cool guns.
To the list above on why signets suck add:
-Or they have unrelated active effects, like my precision signet fills fury?. I mean why, it is not like we lack fury, its more often than not that the burst in on CD than that we lack fury.
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