Guild Wars 2

Borikitty.1302:

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

When the bounties are killed, they respawn instantly (somewhere else).

.. So what you are saying is that they have to gamble that they killed “their” bounty.. everyone scatters thinking they are done, the monster pops somewhere else and they lose credit because they thought they killed their bounty within the timer? Or worse.. waste their timer killing someone else’s bountry when they should have been 3 zones away 15 minutes ago?

It probably means you need some good map coverage and constant map chatting to see if any other guild ran into him.

Worst case scenario is you are looking for him everywhere and you think you check evereywhere on the map but a guild just killed him and he spawned in places you’ve just checked.

killimandros.5087:

Brome.7036:

Killimandros, thieves are not near the top of WvW OP list. If you can’t beat one thats fine. At least learn the class you are trying to get nerfed or you just sound bitter.

WvW power rankings! you heard it here first!
1. Ele
2. Mes
3. Guard
4. Thief
5. Necro/Eng
6. Ranger
7. War

always delighted when the pros add to the discussion

since you edited, ill do it too; I am not gonna argue 1v1 or 1v5 etc. I am only gonna discuss stealth and culling issue. Then again, I play a thief so umm, did you read what I typed? All question answered.

To Banjal, that discussion has been going on since Wow, maybe even anarchy online (who had camo I believe, correct me if im wrong). This is how the devs have decided the class to be. Its a 1v1 scenario, doesnt affect culling and is another discussion imo.

One thing I have been wondering. Yes, stealth proccing culling or whatnot is annoying. But has it really affected your WvW match?

Banjal.7328:

Stealth needs to break on DMG.It’s dumb that I can hit them over and over wile they are in Stealth but I still can’t see them.

Stealth breaking on damage is like having no stealth at all.

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

The bounty targets for each mission are randomly selected from the list of all the ones that are available. If two guilds happen to get the same one at the same time, they may kill that bounty cooperatively and both guilds will receive completion credit for doing so.

What constitutes the same time? And what if one guild finds and kills it before the other? :o

Neat-o /15characters

Is this true? As is this a hotfix or post patch thing?

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/199yhu/ladies_and_gentlemen_you_may_now_preview_the/

As many seem to misinterpret, Guild Wars is a reference to lore not a game mechanic. But GvG would be nice, although it’s weird to balance depending on how big your guild is.

What class are you? AC exp all paths is probably the easiest to do, then try CoF path 1.

treyalsup.4627:

ArcTheFallen.7682:

Thieves only get revealed when attacking in stealth. If they don’t, they can just Cloak and Dagger constantly giving off ‘perma stealth’ but in fact, they aren’t attacking you what so ever. When they burst you, that’s when you snare, immbo and wreck them. If they cloak while immbo or snared, just hit in place because most likely they are still stuck there. If he just cloaks around, just capture a point or whatever and ignore him. If you have allies how lay out conditions, put as many as you can if he’s ‘revealed’. But make sure he made an attack first. If it’s just 1 thief, I doubt it’s culling.

I doubt its culling too, but it does seem in WvW moreso than sPvP that a thief can open on you from stealth and you still don’t see them for a longer period of time, even if it is a smaller engagement.

Also, Snaring/Immobilizing and attacking the spot wasn’t “wrecking” him. I assure you I’m familiar with the concept of attacking where the stealther is supposed to be. It just wasn’t very effective, even when “right”.

If the best we can do is “ignore” the thief and he can control when and where he engages and disengages, thats a problem. What was supposed to be the counter to stealth? Shadowbane had tracking. WoW (only payed vanilla) had hunter’s mark. GW1 didn’t have stealth.

It’s just a very problematic mechanic that’s hard to balance, that sadly has become a staple of the genre.

I would suggest a counter to killing a guy in stealth if any part of the game was about getting kills. It’s all capturing points. So scare em’ and capture the dang point. Or camp or keep. But if you have friends. best way to deal with it is daze him so he can’t use skills, immbo him so he can’t move, and lay down conditions so when he has low health and tries to stealth, he will get downed and probably alt + f4

But like I said, yes to getting rid of culling which they are trying to do already. But nerfing stealth or whatever mechanic because they trigger culling effects just has too much of a negative impact to have to do and if not negative, definitely not necessary. I’d just man up and figure out a way to deal with it until culling is fixed.

killimandros.5087:

ArcTheFallen.7682:

Culling is the issue, not stealth. There’s no point in adjusting something that isn’t broken. And culling happens without stealth too. So removing it isn’t gonna do crap against zergs who just randomly load over the horizon.

I dont know if I should reveal this to you, but, if your wvw group want to use culling as a strategy, the best way to make sure you are not rendering as normal for your opponent, is by using stealth or portals. The longer stealth conditions your group is under, the longer the culling.

Actually I also believe player collision would work wonders against culling, as it would spread out the zerg a bit more, making, yes, less rendeing issues.

Open field, yes, that’s a very difficult encounter, but at keeps, get some arrow carts and let it rain when sword crossing pops. If you are small group taking camps, and you can’t see anyone. Just wait a bit, retake the camp. On the major WvW servers this type of tactic seems very petty and not really a game changer.

treyalsup.4627:

Glad to see this thread. I had one of these WTH? moments last night where 1 thief made fools of a group of 3 of us for 5 minutes.

It seemed like he had stealth on demand- almost permanently. He could have left at any time but didn’t since we couldn’t actually do much to him. Its hard to know what is stealth and what is culling.

The thing that made me crazy was that I was actually landing my immobilizes on him (I’m S/WH / GS ) and he’d stealth and purge the condition.

What is it that a warrior is supposed to do to lock the thief into a fight if immobilize and snare doesn’t?

Thieves only get revealed when attacking in stealth. If they don’t, they can just Cloak and Dagger constantly giving off ‘perma stealth’ but in fact, they aren’t attacking you what so ever. When they burst you, that’s when you snare, immbo and wreck them. If they cloak while immbo or snared, just hit in place because most likely they are still stuck there. If he just cloaks around, just capture a point or whatever and ignore him. If you have allies how lay out conditions, put as many as you can if he’s ‘revealed’. But make sure he made an attack first. If it’s just 1 thief, I doubt it’s culling.

Build respect by WvWing, often and map chatting. Then people will listen to you when you want to gather.

Also I would like to add, why is no one else complaining so much about this? I don’t see any tier 1 guilds coming in here telling their tale. #itsnotarealproblem

If you wanted to fight people, try spvp. Not sure why so many people are complaining about class balances in WvW in 1v1 or small situations (<30man). If you actually tried to fight a thief without culling, they are not as OP as you think. If you actually tried to play WvW like it was intended, aka capture points with a commander and friends. It shouldn’t be that hard to scare off a thief with a group or whoever it takes to take a camp/keep/whatnot.

Culling is the issue, not stealth. There’s no point in adjusting something that isn’t broken. And culling happens without stealth too. So removing it isn’t gonna do crap against zergs who just randomly load over the horizon.

ophidic.1279:

So are there people here who are good at this?

This has been a huge pain in the kitten I got 0 runs in last night and about 5 wipes. For the love of god, I just want to get my monthly achievement done.

If you need help running it, contact me in game. Also to other posters, this is an old thread. This was a concern before people started having decent gear/lvl80s/ice bow knowledge etc.

Jferraro.6423:

yes i have used gw2lfg.com it is an awesome site and it has helped me alot. i’m just saying maye its my time zone it just doesnt seem to be lots of people venturing around like when first started playing. or maybe theri all in wvw now.

I used to be on SoR, but yes they are most likely in wvw since they recently went to tier 1 and east coast primetime (after 5pm) is usually the only time they can do wvw. You could always try Tarnished Coast for fun. I would guest around and just get a feel of the different servers.

JJBigs.8456:

Scootabuser.4915:

It’s 4 warriors and 1 mesmer.
Or as the pros do it 2 thieves 2 warriors 1 mesmer.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/10g-Hr-CoF-Farming-Beginners-Guide/first

It’s the party make-up for dungeon farming, you find the easiest fastest dungeon, you go pure DPS and just pound the bosses as fast as possible with omnombars, you can make a buttload of money.

Interestingly enough if you look at the top dungeon players, it’s the same way high level DUNGEONS are run too, you just end the fight as quickly as possible.

High level fractals are similar, but you usually use a guardian for support instead of mesmer, and the DPS heroes are Enig (vuln) , Necro (condition), Thief (pure dps) Warrior (banners)

You have NO idea what your talking about throughout your entire post.

False, lol. For the most effective runs, he has it down pat.

Delgan.8619:

ArcTheFallen.7682:

Delgan.8619:

Kimyrielle.3826:

-IF- guesting would work cross-continent, I’d say the prices are fine. Unfortunately, that’s not the case.

Completely agree.

This in a nutshell would resolve all problems – WvW may be a huge part of this game but it is by no means the only content this game has to offer or only reason anyone would have for moving from an EU to American Server.

I am just curious as to why a lot of people didn’t just choose the same server to be on—-let alone how does NA meet a EU player and vice versa. I can only imagine you being friends with them in real life and wanting to play but as far as I know, other than gw2lfg.com you wouldn’t be able to run into a EU player in the NA servers at all. (Unless overflow includes them?) Not sure. But still, I think it should’ve been decided what server you were playing on in the beginning when it was free and they gave a fair warning.

I’m actually an old GW1 player, I myself and a number of friends all went off together and the majority did infact all choose EU servers but I have a number of “Friends” who opted to play on a server in America – This previously was never an issue on the origional Guild Wars.

Valid point, I am not against the idea, but I think paid transfers are fine as is. What they really need to do is change the guesting system. It benefits both sides. I doubt the guesting system is a technical issue (unless it’s configured differntly than GW1 servers) and if it’s a resource issue, it’ll just take time and gem revenue for them to probably include that option. But there’s no harm in reminding them I s’pose

Delgan.8619:

Kimyrielle.3826:

-IF- guesting would work cross-continent, I’d say the prices are fine. Unfortunately, that’s not the case.

Completely agree.

This in a nutshell would resolve all problems – WvW may be a huge part of this game but it is by no means the only content this game has to offer or only reason anyone would have for moving from an EU to American Server.

I am just curious as to why a lot of people didn’t just choose the same server to be on—-let alone how does NA meet a EU player and vice versa. I can only imagine you being friends with them in real life and wanting to play but as far as I know, other than gw2lfg.com you wouldn’t be able to run into a EU player in the NA servers at all. (Unless overflow includes them?) Not sure. But still, I think it should’ve been decided what server you were playing on in the beginning when it was free and they gave a fair warning.

8 characters lvl 80. Funnest to level up was a thief.

You can tank in this game with a hammer guard and PVT armor. You can heal with a staff ele in water attunment.

I’ll try to capture the strong points of each character given that I have all professions at 80 and ran dungeons with them as well as played 10+ pvp games with them each. However, I haven’t tried many builds with all of them, I just chose the one I preferred the most—but I should be able to capture their potential.

Warrior: Greatest damage dealer (don’t let anyone tell you any differently). Can be geared for good offensive support with banners and shouts—but PvE wise if you nail down the dodging skills, warriors are most effective as zerkers; although some good warriors still do support with banners or shotus.
Weakness: Conditions. Very low access to condition removal.

Guardians: Really balance classed in the offensive and defensive aspect. Really good in control and mobbing. Can be geared to tank really well against enemies (and I mean your standing their and tanking as opposed to kiting). They have one of the most effective utilities so they work well in all scenarios. PvE and WvW wise, guardians are one of the best for difficult content due to their versatility.
Weakness: Low hp. But not really.

Mesmers: Tricky classes. Their shatter skills are really useful in various scenarios. You can become invulnerable, you can daze, you can cause confusion. Your illusions can help you confuse enemies. And they can provide the most offensive support with the beloved elite skill time warp. If you face any boss and you want to get the job done faster. Time warp is the best elite skill for that. Also, mesmers have portals which can help in indefinite ways of carrying your members through difficult jump puzzles or obstacles. Mesmers are great in all areas of the game. Portals work wonders in wvw. Time warp works wonders in pve. And shatters work wonders in pvp.
Weakness: Squishy if you don’t master distortion and dodges.

Thief: If you master stealth, thieves can be the best ‘ressing’ classes out there. The most useful thing amount a thief is their stealth mechanic and being able to get allies when they are down or using stealth to cloak allies through enemies you are just not in the mood for. They can deal heavy direct damage as well if built right or heavy condition damage in retrospect. Thieves shine in pvp because you can stealth gimp inexpericed players or oblvious players. Thieves are good in PvE as well due to great dps and stealth ressing, but you really need to learn how to dodge.
Weakness: Squishy if you don’t master stealth and dodges.

Necro: Great survivability with siphoning (although it could be better) and Death Shroud is like a 2nd life. If you play minions, you can survive really well. If you play wells, you can do some good aoe dps. If you are a fan of damage dealing, power necros with wells can do some great damage. Also, their easy access to fear can save your life in some bad cases of the knock downs.
Weakness: Not a lot of support potential.

Eles: Attunements galore. They have really great supports per attunement with a staff. And you can become almost indestructable with bunker builds with double daggers. They are probably the most OP class in pvp currently with bunker d/d. Their ice bows are useful for destroying envinronment structures (can be very helpful in the ascalon dungeon) and they can provide support heals and massive aoes.
Weakness: Squishy if not bunker d/d and you do not know how to use their heals

Ranger: Using traps and pets, rangers can handle quite a few stuff. Thier access to pets can be very good for different situations. They have one of the best range (1500 dist with longbow). And their search and resuce utility can be useful for really dire moments.
Weakness: Not really good in anything, Pet can be dumb and a hinderance sometimes (draws unecessary aggro or just dies due to its inability to dodge or be stowed.

Engineer: Has access to a lot of different utilities and kits. Kits can give you access to new skills without swapping cooldowns. They also have 1500 range with grenades. Has access to various cc skills, support. They are pretty flexible and work well in range.
Weakness: Not very high in damage.

I can’t help you with that quest, but I can suggest a poi in Brisban Wilderlands that has an indefinite spawn of bandits at a camp. I forgot what it’s called, but it’s the poi top middle of the map near water.

Learning to spvp competitively is pretty engaging.

For some achievements, I really would like the title..is there any way to get it? If not, I really think this should be allowed

I seem to get less and less the more matches I play..

Because pvp is all about capturing points. Stealth isn’t really a problem. They can sure live, but they if you know your class well enough you can hold your ground against bursts or very stealth oriented thieves until they run away.

How do you find out about consumables O_o there are so many I’ve never heard of

Distaste.4801:

Direngrey.8376:

Due to me being kicked in CoF or any dungeon really because I main a Guardian has been pretty irritating, managed to make a warrior and get it to 80 in 1 day ( Spent about 80-100g ) and crafted it, now I get to run dungeons with no problems, I think it is absurd people will kick anyone thats not a warrior.

Oh well, Warrior = farm
Guardian = WvW

Gonna call shenanigans on your claim of 80-100g. I’ve leveled a character to 80 through crafting. I gave him 15g to start and followed a decent guide. Each profession ended up costing 2g-3g since you can get 1g-2g easily from selling the items you make either to a vendor or on the trading post. The last 3 rares alone go for 35s a pop. Artificer was by far the most expensive and chef was the least expensive.

I get your point though. It’s stupid how unbalanced warrior damage is and has been since beta.

It’s not false about the crafting cost from 1-80. It’s probably around 60-80g when I did it last week—at least using gw2wiz’s guide which seems pretty efficient to me. And I think the more trivial a dungeon gets, the easier it is to just hop on the warrior train and zerk farm a dungeon but it’s not that common for harder runs.

COF p1 is just a place for players of any skill level to hit frenzy + 100b and win. Doesn’t mean there’s a call for warriors in every single dungeon. I really would like posters to specify the actual dungeon and not generalize cof p1, or ac exp (not really) expectations to represent All 25 dungeons.

Ugh, that moment when you write a long post and forum submission doesn’t go through. To sum up what would’ve been a decent detailed post:

Anet set the value of the legendary item when they came up with it’s recipe. The recipe does not involve much skill at all, just time, money, and luck (and I’m talking about actual gaming skill—-tp and farming isn’t your normal concept of gaming skill imo). So given that it’s value is just time, money, and luck. Someone wielding it doesn’t really prove anything.

What makes a person legendary is their ability to play their character well and no amount of cosmetic currently can showcase that (cept maybe fractal weapons sorta). Pretty sure Wethospu could handle a lot more content with a wooden greatsword than most people I’ve met with legendaries (shout out to the pro warr).

Given it’s current recipe, no matter what, the legendary means nothing more than a time investment, luck and money. And I don’t really consider dedication legendary—at least not legendary enough to make in account bound because it doesn’t diminish much. A sold twilight means, they had the money, just not the time and luck. A crafted twilight means they had the money, time and luck. Time and luck—does that really change the way people looks at legendaries?

I think this is being made a big deal when it shouldn’t be. If the legendary actually took legendary skill to achieve, then yes. Don’t let it be sold! Because it would diminish it’s symbolism for great skill. But obv Anet didn’t value you the legendary as such. Maybe the next round of legendaries would have better personal symbolism. -shurg-

Do you think you can killstreak exp farm here? :o

Defektive.7283:

dimyzuka.7051:

defective how can u put guardians 4th on the list?

The Tier List isn’t for me to decide. These are aggregate results that follow the current meta, derived from players.

I’ve seen a lot of teams not bring Guardians as of late, but other teams still do. I don’t see them as a requirement anymore personally.

Can you list most popular weapon combos that for the classes of each tier? :O

Hey Guys,

I just started pvping ‘seriously’ (trying to get better, learn the professions and the meta) and I have a simple (or maybe complex) question for more experienced. What do you do against bunker builds?

Some background info, I have all professions in PvE at lvl80 so I have access to all classes so I have good experience in each class (viable options, various builds, etc) pve wise—but pvp wise I am at a loss kind of. I usually try to pvp with each class 10 games and then switch to freshen up my play, but I have problems against really hard bunker builds (I go for balanced usually).

Before I would normally try to learn the ropes and not ask for help, but yesterday I fought an ele s/d and it was me and a mesmer—and we could barely get the ele’s health past 70%. And trust me when I say I was literally on him 24/7 but it seemed as if his heals and endurance upkeep made him somewhat undefeatable.

So I guess meta-wise, should I just focus on capping at that point? What if he’s at a point and defending it? Should I just leave and wait for backups for more dps? Did I have a bad build for my necro (0/20/0/20/30)? Did I choose the wrong class to fight against bunker eles let alone bunkers in general?

Any tips would be appreciated!

Kandrick.8054:

The first gmission available requires art of war level 5. I doubt any single player guild has that unlocked.
I would assume that if you can get that unlocked and then earn enough influence to kick off the mission it would allow you to. I also doubt that it would be able to be completed solo though.

You can buy influence with gold. So you don’t really need time or people to get it. Just money.

If you don’t want to invest too much in a char before you decide. Try making chars of each profession (you have 5 char slots) and then go to the pvp realm and mess around with skills/builds/weapons to see what you like best. (PvP realm aka Heart of Mists bumps you to lvl80 and gives you access to all your trait points, all your skills, and you can buy weapons from the pvp vendor for free (pvp only weapons).

Guild missions are coming—-no one really knows what it is, but maybe it’ll be close enough to a raid.

Wolf Saurus.3602:

ArcTheFallen.7682:

Hawkian.6580:

I believe the drop chance increases with each tier, but not within each tier (except 20 versus 22?)

This is correct. RNG gets much better in the later levels with the skins. When 50+ was available, most of my friends/guildmates who were high up there got a skin each day. So if you really want the skins, you should level up some more.

Only problem is, sadly I’ve been hearing from friends who have friends at the 40+ difficulties is that its no longer possible to even do 40, now whether that’s with or without the amulet is unclear, and the fact that he’s at 34 ( part of the 30 tier), which is claimed to now be the “max” tier proves that the RNG for the fractal skins is still super rare and like everything else that isn’t a recipe or bought from any type of token, based on luck.

It’s possible to go 40+, with a small res trick to mitigate agony ticks. I have agony resist at 35 and doing 40-48, I can tell you it does help but you will still die at maw (at least as a guardian) I still havn’t tried allied healing/ressing skills though, but I definitely still cannot self-heal my way out.

I’m sure they are going to work on it in the future, lol—just because it wasn’t mentioned or nothing was stated for this one patch doesn’t mean it’s been forsakened.

Hawkian.6580:

I believe the drop chance increases with each tier, but not within each tier (except 20 versus 22?)

This is correct. RNG gets much better in the later levels with the skins. When 50+ was available, most of my friends/guildmates who were high up there got a skin each day. So if you really want the skins, you should level up some more.

Agree with the responses against taunting, it’s not a realistic mechanic. If you want to save a downed person, cloaking them with a thief is the best you’ll get to make the monster forget about you 100%.

Nope. Just rarity of item.

Use gw2 wiki for main source of world info aka npcs, events, items, etc.

When you get to 80, that’s when you’ll have access to top of the line armor sets. So don’t worry too much about looking good until then.

When you hit lvl30 (which is the recommended level for the first story dungeon) and lvl35 which is the recommended for the first explorable dungeon, consider using gw2lfg.com to party up with people while anet works on an in-game LFG tool.

Use map chat to ask for help. If you find maps empty, guest into a higher tier server which includes Jade Quary, Blackgate, Sanctum of Rall, Sea of Sorrows, etc. You can probably see the list on the wvw forum thread. Usually the most populated servers are ranked higher in wvw. If you like roleplaying, guest into Tarnished Coast server (unofficial dedicated RP server).

Get gathering equipment from most merchants on maps, this will allow you to gain exp from logging trees, mining ores, and gathering plant stuff. You can also use the materials with other drops to craft items. All crafting areas can be found easily in LA (they are elsewhere but Lion’s Arch—aka main city for people to gather—has all of them in a close location). Maxing crafting professions 1-400 will give you at 10+ levels up to lvl20ish then it’s always 10 levels. So it’s an easy way to speed up leveling.

Level up through story, heart quests and venturing through map. Best way to level other than crafting is doing dungeons, but you normally want to hit the lvl35 benchmark.

If you want to plan ahead and look at armors/weapon skins google dufly + gw2 skins or try gw2armor.com.

Hope that helps.

Scratch that, you can only change your forum email address apparently, they haven’t added an account email change yet so yeah, contact support as suggested above.

Wait, can’t you change it in account? That’s how most hackers lock you outside of your account I’ve heard.

Atherakhia.4086:

Geotherma.2395:

Finish personal story, get rewarded a race change kit. Just a thought.

Personal story can’t be the reason. Each class has the same number options to choose from at selection. Each quest branches at the same place for each class.

1st option on a norn == 1st option on a sylvari == 1st option on a …

It’s not because of tech issues, it’s just a bad idea.

Phira.3970:

The games animation is definitely lacking.

Look at females swinging a scepter. Looks like itstheir first time using the scepter.

And the elite skills don’t have a very elite animation.

I think the animations are supposed to be more realistic than flashy. But I guess they could work on some basic weapon animations.

Not sure if there was a patch, but I noticed it lagging for awhile now. Not sure why, maybe they need to decrease the LA pop limit and push more to overflow.

CureForLiving.5360:

melodyca.8921:

You are comparing this game to Dragon Age 2? This is an online game. Dragon Age 2 is game that barely sold half of what the first game sold. I’m following development on DA3 and they are dropping those animations because the majority hated them.

You really should compared another online game to skills and not a single player RPG.

In all fairness I think DA2’s issues were well beyond simple animations. Also I’m not sure why GW2 being an online game automatically excludes comparing its animations or graphics to single player games. But with that all said I really don’t have any issues with the animations.

It’s very time consuming and maybe not hardware friendly to have the highest of high quality animations for millions of players. That’s why you can’t compare. It’s 1 guy vs. thoustand of players.

Also keep in mind, due to the guesting implementation and paid world transfers now, a lot of bandwagoners moved to high tier servers for wvw purposes. So if you are in a bottom tier, it may be more populated to guest in Jade Quarry or something if you want allies.

ubiquit.7492:

but anet could implement a system which starts by lv 1 if you are changing your race
otherwise they could remove the sould bounding, because I want to give the eq to my new character then

If you just want the skin, you can use transmutation stones. If they are high level gear, it’s pretty easy to just farm the equipment on your main until you get your new char to 80. Doing dungeons is easy exotic access.