Guild Wars 2

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

Asudementio.8526:

Which is a problem!

T1 is competitive among the 3 but leave the at least 3 other servers out to dry and the argument coming from them is stack up or go home. T1 has no real interest in competition; their only focus is on this absurd arms race where one of them tries to recruit enough people that they can just sit back and face-roll. The way t1 conducts itself is bad for the game and bad for the community long-term.

It was not a problem during ladder though. TC was actually more problematic than T1 during that time, when it was infamously in between T1 and T2, pop. wise.

The reason is that WvW, since launch up until the announcement of Leagues, was sold as a “stack up or go home” game. ANet repeatedly said coverage wars was legit. They defended HoD right off the bat when people were crying bloody tears over their superior 24/7 pop.

It has only been recently where the state of T1 has affect other servers because ANet decided to match us with you guys. Only recently have they tried to balance the server populations.

It’s no one in T1’s fault they formed the servers the way they did. That was ANet’s intent. And it’s ANet’s fault that they suddenly turned 180 on their design philosophy.

T1 is still to be held accountable for it’s continued population increases.

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

magikfox.9658:

Disagree completely. I think what leagues has done is make assured match ups. If an EU guild was to go to SoS, they will inherently have more competition to face compared to say SoR or BG. On top of this it revitalizes gold all together as we don’t have dead weeks like JQ is having. Then again they have crazy stacked their SEA so I mean they’re asking for it really, but that’s the meta we’ve all put ourselves in.

It doesn’t have to be completely balanced, that is kind of hard, but hey, that doesn’t mean that people should be avoiding these other servers.

SoS, TC, Mag. These are servers that non-NAs should seriously be considering. I think for gold league NA is sorted (maybe not SoS). But if guilds want to move to these other servers in gold there can be some great competition for every week and for every guild.

It was mentioned that Smokee and Indo have had these talks on promoting EU guilds to move to JQ. Maybe we should open it up to the other three servers as well. EU prime has 2 hour queues, so before this edge of the mists stuff there will be guilds over there seriously considering coming over to NA. The problem we are facing with it now is that there are dead weeks. Imagine if we could cut those dead weeks altogether.

To accomplish that we have to get over the STACK TO WIN mentality which JQ, SOR and BG are all equally guilty of. And it’s not so much in the hands of the server leaders but the guilds who come to gold league.

It’s something to think about.

(Isn’t weird when a troll makes the most sense :O)

The problem is that the result you’re expecting won’t happen. Excluding maybe TC, transfers… realistic transfers to any of these servers will not yield any greater competition. That’s how great the difference is between T1 and T2.

You’re working on the assumption that reasonably sized guilds are moving to NA servers, so hey, lets balance T2 / Gold.

The guilds, however, are thinking. “We are transferring to Gold, where should we go?”

And the factors dictating that decision all favour T1.

Which is a problem!

T1 is competitive among the 3 but leave the at least 3 other servers out to dry and the argument coming from them is stack up or go home. T1 has no real interest in competition; their only focus is on this absurd arms race where one of them tries to recruit enough people that they can just sit back and face-roll. The way t1 conducts itself is bad for the game and bad for the community long-term.

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

Asudementio.8526:

Try giving a decent answer and people will be less snarky to you.

You should take your own advice.

What a pitiful retort. Please see my previous post i am certain it will aid you.

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

Even though it was WM that was carrying kaineng in tier 2? Imagine what a difference it would have made to have ZDs go to say… mag, or sos? Sure they couldent beat tier 1 servers still, but it would be enough to put TC in a tight spot if the three ever got matched together again. Tier 1 will still never be compared to lower tiers, but that dosent mean you have to prey on lower tiers to fuel your terribly stupid arms race. (example being before leagues)

That was exactly my point with Kaineng. All ZDs and IRON would’ve accomplished by transferring to any non-T1 server (except maybe TC) is inflate that servers score (by PvDing) until they got to T1 and then get stomped.

In fact, them being in T1 actually made T2 and lower more stable, as the player distribution was primarily NA.

Asudementio.8526:

Oh it takes too much effort to balance the game out for a greater number of people so i’m going to just be a sheep and move my guild to BG/SoR/JQ so i don’t have to be invested in a server. Gotcha. Thanks for clearing it up unrepentant.

You’re welcome.

Try not to be snarky when you’re wrong. It makes you look jaded.

Try giving a decent answer and people will be less snarky to you.

Oh it takes too much effort to balance the game out for a greater number of people so i’m going to just be a sheep and move my guild to BG/SoR/JQ so i don’t have to be invested in a server. Gotcha. Thanks for clearing it up unrepentant.

So i can’t be the only one wondering, but what is up with the paper bag helm pack? It, like the school uniform, screamed to be a specific update but boom absolutely nothing. Can we expect these in a future patch, a lot of my friends and i are leaping at the chance to WvW with emoticon paper bag faces.

Peow peow.2189:

Lately I’ve been trying to use non stealth builds, as I feel stealth is too mainstream every thief is using it as much as they can…

However, with the current state of the sword build they are so weak compared to dp and dd or pd.

S/p is barely viable with pistol whip relying on bassi or drvourers
And s/d is decent and fun but backstabbing build achieve much quicker burst through heartseeker. Shadow shot ANd back stabs.

Is anet going to give a boost to sword anytime soon?
Some of us actually don’t prefer stealth /perm stealth builds.

I don’t feel forced to use stealth but it certainly makes fulfilling multiple duties a lot easier.

Would it not be better that if guilds insist on moving to upper tier servers that those guilds go to TC, Mag, SoS, Sbi, and FA? Why not make the top 8 US servers more competitive than the top 2 or 3?

Straegen.2938:

If playing in NA Prime (7pm-11pm EST), my suggestion is to avoid top tier servers on your first experience. A lot of hard core guys get irritated by newbies particularly ones clogging up the queues on reset night. I would recommend a nice T5 server for NA prime. They will have a nice mix of zerg, skirmish and roaming without being too overwhelming. They also are generally a lot more appreciative and patient with new players.

If playing primarily outside of NA Prime, a T1 is not a bad place to start. TC and EBay are both weak during those hours so you might find yourself thrown in against superior numbers.

IMO, make sure your server has a global TeamSpeak and it is actively used. Check and see what guilds are friendly to new players before transferring.

What top tier server are you from??? I know at least on TC we try to help new players in WvW.

logs.1493:

I have been stuck in ques for hours, I have been prevented from playing with my guild (due to ques), I have suffered through ridiculous skill lag and server desync, I have torn my hair out at the flood of disrespectful achievement hunters.

This.. This.. Living story in EB stuff is the last straw. It’s clear they don’t want to listen to their most active and knowledgeable playerbase.

I once had high hopes for this game. An elder dragon a year I thought, it would be awesome. Instead we get scarlet and her “friend of the week”.

No more. I will await ESO, and what looks to be a much more enjoyable RvR.

And this class is why you don’t stack servers.

TC doesn’t really have oceanic queues to speak of, maybe save for EB. As for blobbing there are TC groups that exclusively raid, others only militia command, some only raid so whatever you feel like doing in WvW you should be able to find it here. Not al of our WvW is blobbing- not even most of it comes close, most of us prefer to play in group sizes that don’t cause our computers to smoke like a chimney.

And what after each of the top 3 have their EU numbers equal you’ll go through another round of asking guilds to join each other for more fights. When is enough enough? This moronic arms race is why no one takes complains concerning WvW from BG,SoR, and JQ seriously.

Ok I Did It.2854:

Big congrats to this weeks winners ZD guild and TC server, I wonder which one of you got paid more gold for the move/ throwing the match LOL,

Alas its good to see a guild on BehindaGate that like to battle open field.

BG the pay to win server LOL.

Hopefully JQ’s easy matchup will allow them to win the Season 1, then all that buying out guilds etc that BG did will be in vain gg, gg.

There is not enough gold in the game to get the TC WvW core to throw a match-up

Wolbryne.4037:

Doomdesire.9365:

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

Doomdesire.9365:

WM did OT and BG was ticking at 400+ PPT during EU pretty much every day. That’s why IRON transferred when they did. It was pretty justified, too. KISS came out of no where, so there’s not much to say about that, but they aren’t a prescense anymore.

I wouldn’t consider transferring to a time zone with no native pop. justified. Also pretty peculiar for people who claim to play for the fights. Point is, IRON didn’t end up fighting Euros when they transferred (or anyone, for that matter. The new BG strat after IRON transferred was to exploit “Hawaiin time”). The match histories don’t lie. Luckily, HB got rezzed soon after.

IRON didn’t transfer to sor to fight EU. They transferred to SoR because we needed the help the most, especially during that timeslot, because WM was causing BG to tick extremely high during EU. They’ve said it themselves when they transfferred here on the forums. SoR needed help the most, that’s why they joined us. It was both a logical and justified decision. IRON was dying in EU(actually the official EU IRON is dead, the ones that transferred was a fraction of the original IRON IIRC), and they wanted to move to NA. SoR offerred the best option for them.

Actually you’re wrong. The reason that we left desolation was because of two big reasons:
we became fed up with the server and it’s people. It was a very toxic enviroment filled to the brim with drama, insults, backstabbing and generally bad conduct. we pretty much carried the server and got nothing but crap thrown back in our faces. We had a community ts set up for everyone to use. they managed to ruin that too and cause drama over. we had an EB branch of iron that saw one of it’s highest officers steal everything we put in to the guild bank and go off create their own guild while spitting insults of the worst kind to wrex. they still send her whispers etc wishing her all the worst and death by different illnesses, like 12yo kids. we got worn out pulling mad hours week after week because the majority of desolations playerbase is 100% pve’ers who almost never went in to wvw. the list goes on. but all in all, we wanted away from there because of the drama, toxic enviroment and the lack of wvw participation.

reason two was Visuna. Iron wants fights. fighting is what we like to do. ppt is and always will be secondary to us. eu tier1 had gone incredibly stale. Visuna had an entire map blob but refused to come out of their keeps… EVER. they siege capped every tower and keep and had their entire force sit on arrowcarts 24/7. It was so boring we started crying blood. we wanted fights, so we left for NA.

The reasoning for picking SOR over any other NA T1 server was very simple and logical. Who had the shortest queues? Who faced the most enemies? Who had the biggest wvw guilds?
sor had no queues
sor faced the most enemies in wvw at any given time
bg had the biggest wvw guilds

so we went to the server where we would have no queues and be able to fight the biggest forces. as simple as that. we transferred to fight, not for ppt. our move was, as should be for any guild, for the good of the guild and it’s members.

So you left desolation to bring all of its problems with you? GG

Zikory.6871:

Jeydra.4386:

Liquid.9672:

Jeydra.4386:

When I mentioned in map chat about how cruel we were being, my teammates were like “don’t pity TC, they deserve it”. What did you guys do to BG anyway?

Not everyone feels the same, and well, you were on EBG afterall. You have to take what you read in map chat with a grain of salt in that zone. As far as the tone, one can only guess. From my play this weekend during NA prime it did seem like TC was being overly aggressive with BG and more passive with SoR, so that could have gotten some players fired up. Who knows. But most of us WvW vets know that there’s usually a reason an enemy commander targets one server over another, or 2v1 a server to break a waypoint or something (like Sat night on TCBL Hills) and don’t get all bent out of shape about it.

Many months ago BG and TC actually developed a very friendly relationship during our month of T2 matches.

Here’s the situation in more detail.

Map was Eternal Battlegrounds
Blackgate held SM
SoR led Blackgate by ~10k points
Long queue to enter EB for Blackgate
TC’s Overlook was T3 (waypoint built)
TC’s Veloka was T3 (700/700 supply with lots of siege inside)

SoR attempts to take Overlook with I-don’t-know-what, but they were stopped at OL west gate. The swords there warned us that there was a fight going on. We were in our corner of the map at the time. Commander takes the zerg and pushes for Veloka, using four (!) superior rams and taking it without resistance. Around this time SoR fails to take OL and goes on to take Mendon’s. After taking Veloka BG builds 7 Omega golems and goes for OL as well, but get wiped; while BG were outside Overlook SoR takes SM, ending the 2v1.

I think there’s no rational reason for the commander to go for Overlook / Veloka, other than to prey on TC. TC could do nothing about it – they’re stuck in a 1v2 against two superior servers. It must be very frustrating for them since they’ve already done all they can (holding Overlook), yet their position still deteriorated dramatically.

Shortly before I transferred out of SoS I had this week playing against JQ and FA. JQ had enough of a numerical advantage to simply roll over SoS and FA, which they did, but not just that they started spawn camping people with superior Ballistae while spamming /laugh. Not funny. TC are way stronger than SoS or FA, but even so. BG shouldn’t play like JQ. I’m disappointed, really.

You do understand the reason TC gets hit with a 2v1 is because they are unwilling to partake in one them selves. I would bet most BG commanders would love nothing more than to push SoRs side but ever time they do TC has to try to hit a tower on BG’s side. This forces BG to come back and after a few times the only logical thing to do is to push TC. And SoR is going to jump on a 2v1 against TC because that keeps the 2v1 off them and they get to hold more PPT and upgrade there stuff.

Bullkitten. Maybe we could focus on SoR if BG would stop back capping us and rushing our keeps.

As if we would 2v1 BG with the help of SoR.

SoR and BG seem a little touched.

SoR’s spread will help them take the week unless they are focused, and likely even then, but they are certainly no better than BG skill wise. And if they are they definitely do not show it!

Chris.3290:

style.6173:

“EP left TC for SoS? – Me
Yea cuz we hurt their feelings – Map chat”

I think in general though it is more that people are getting tired of queues.

All it takes is something like those queues to make people who are already annoyed pack up.
With BG winning this first week, it’s been proven that the gap between TC and T1 is only getting larger, so there is a question about why TC exists as the way it is now.

Don’t get me wrong, I’d rather see SoS and Mag grow to meet TC without taking away from TC (preferably as T1 de-stacks); but it will be better for the three of us in the future if we have more even matchups.

Question is when the undedicated achievement farmers go to kessex hills how will WvWers who have changed servers and have taken a break affect the state of the game. this could very well guarantee that T1 will never be displaced, at least for the foreseeable future. which imo is a terrible thing.

deathTouch.9706:

Asudementio.8526:

deathTouch.9706:

The worst rallybaiting player on JQ who simply complete the achievements via k-training gets better rewards than the best players on Mag who struggle every week to bust zergs 2-3 times their strength in numbers.

Honestly they should have skipped the achievements altogether and just gave out rewards based on server population at the beginning of leagues. It would have saved us 7 weeks of random-kitten achievement hunting no serious WvW players wants to do.

Working as intended.

And what are you hunting? The achievement requirements are not so high that you can’t get them by you know ACTUALLY playing WvW. Though admittedly convulsing all over each other in fight clubs will make it somewhat difficult to get them.

Yes, because taking SM 5 times in gold league is realistic with a group of 10 people.

I actively try to avoid 80 man, lowest-common-denominator no-skill-usage 1-spam orgies as much as possible because, you know, that’s not ACTUALLY playing WvW.

Hey lucky for you you don’t have to complete all of the achievements, GG

deathTouch.9706:

Asudementio.8526:

deathTouch.9706:

Unfortunately I don’t remember much of the 6 hour roaming session our guild did yesterday. I’m starting to get to the point this match where I can multitask with other stuff on my computer/desk and still be able to function just fine in our guild’s roaming group, even when heavily outnumbered.

I’ve found that engaging TC at a numbers ratio of 1:2.5 is usually pretty safe. This is better than SBI which was around a 1:4 ratio, and YB which approached 1:20.

Starting to get to the point? Step up your game, i have been multi tasking for most of the match up play this week and still be cleaning up.

That at least partially explains why you guys melt so fast when you meet us in a BL.

I don’t remember dying to AoN tags save for the night in water camp, you must be msitaken

deathTouch.9706:

The worst rallybaiting player on JQ who simply complete the achievements via k-training gets better rewards than the best players on Mag who struggle every week to bust zergs 2-3 times their strength in numbers.

Honestly they should have skipped the achievements altogether and just gave out rewards based on server population at the beginning of leagues. It would have saved us 7 weeks of random-kitten achievement hunting no serious WvW players wants to do.

Working as intended.

And what are you hunting? The achievement requirements are not so high that you can’t get them by you know ACTUALLY playing WvW. Though admittedly convulsing all over each other in fight clubs will make it somewhat difficult to get them.

XAssumption.9540:

Why you do this? I play in Anvil Rock and I find it incredibly disappointing knowing that I’ll get rewards from that reward chest WORSE than someone from another server with a strong WvW community for the SAME AMOUNT OF EFFORT.

-We want to promote WvW activity because people would notice that the rewards int he chest are based off of server performance!
Nice try, the servers are staying where they are in terms of WvW activity and rank, especially Anvil Rock.

-WvW is team oriented so quit whining.
I QUOTE: “It’s extremely important that we stay true to our philosophy that you should be able to play Guild Wars 2 the way you want to play the game in order to reach the most powerful rewards.”
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/colin-johanson-on-guild-wars-2-in-the-months-ahead/

THE MOST POWERFUL REWARDS? What a joke.
And I get, considering this is AR, presumably the worse possible rewards just because I’m on a different server — a server that happens to have small WvW player count.

Honestly Anet, you’re just making servers like Jade Quarry and Blackgate more enticing. You’re essentially screwing over all of the loyal WvW players on Anvil Rock.

It’s not like you get more loot every dungeon run just because your server is proficient at running dungeons.
It’s not like you get more cosmetics in sPvP because your server has the top sPvP players.
Why should it be for WvW?

Better rewards should go to better performing WvW servers. Mediocrity has no place in WvW.

deathTouch.9706:

Unfortunately I don’t remember much of the 6 hour roaming session our guild did yesterday. I’m starting to get to the point this match where I can multitask with other stuff on my computer/desk and still be able to function just fine in our guild’s roaming group, even when heavily outnumbered.

I’ve found that engaging TC at a numbers ratio of 1:2.5 is usually pretty safe. This is better than SBI which was around a 1:4 ratio, and YB which approached 1:20.

Starting to get to the point? Step up your game, i have been multi tasking for most of the match up play this week and still be cleaning up.

" carrots " do not change the format in which we play, though given it does bring in people will new motives- regardless the mechanics remain the same.

Also new content is just as bad as a carrot, it isn’t magically better because it is new, it is still an amusement attraction and something digital to eat up your time. So please continue your martyrdom if it makes you feel better.

I couldn’t join your group to say something but

to the agg champion magus ele with dual incinerators on SoS bl in the ruins

You hit like a truck, i was tempted to food up and change to my other gear set but i figured i first fought you in roaming gear and the most honorable thing would be to stay with it. You are better than a lot of the eles i encounter and you have a great working knowledge of what to expect based on my movements.

P.S. Sorry about all the interference, the nerve of some people

-The thief

deathTouch.9706:

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

deathTouch.9706:

It’s like Yak’s Bend 2.0. Time to stop sucking on the tower and siege nipple. There are 2 ACs in there too.

2 ACs in a fully tier 2 tower? You sure you took enough screenshots?

It’s more like 20 people hiding from 4.

And i wanted to make sure I got the angle right so you could see the treb actually firing toward us.

Oh we are sooooo scared of the big bad maguuma carebears.

/sarcasm

Come on Mag stop running, i’m just one little thief.

deathTouch.9706:

Just when I thought I was gaining respect for TC…

…this lvl 80 STUN warrior showed up right after I dueled a very friendly and skilled ranger from NOPE. The staff guard in my party ran over to the STUN warrior while I was chatting to the ranger and began autoattacking with 1 to just play around.

Then something unreal happened. The STUN warrior popped utilities and started RUNNING. From a 1v1 with a support staff guard spamming 1.

And not only did he run, but bee-lined into the nearby tower.

Later he came back with a friend and died to us in about 5 seconds flat.

Just when I had started to respect TC, this had to happen. Why TC, why do you do this to my heart?

NOTE: I did nothing offensive, just jumped around and played photographer. I wasn’t even remotely close to potato or the war when potato started streetsweeping him.

Was the ranger a human?

If the TC scrubs were really so bad you should have kept the keep; stop making excuses for your own failings. There have been plenty of good fights i’ve been a part of this week already and all you are doing is tarnishing what could be a matchup with meaningful experiences.

God our opponents are so whiny.

Meridian.8730:

Nothing the new patch did affected pve and thief does OK as a pve class anyway, though not as fast at killing as warrior and not quite as good at looting as guardian.

However, thief is getting weaker and weaker for pvp/wvw. Even before Oct 15, the possible GOOD builds for pvp were mostly limited to s/d with sb…and maybe a niche d/p every so often. But none of thief’s weapon sets beats every class, and now the s/d and s/p have been nerfed to the point of being ineffective vs the classes they worked best against (guardian, ele)…so all we really have left are stealth-based builds or simply running away. In PvP, having to run away is a total waste of time. In WvW, it’s just depressing not to be able to beat someone no matter how hard you try.

PvP: S/D, now nerfed again, so you can’t kill good eles or guards at all (because you can’t debuff them fast enough). Warriors have been very tough/nearly impossible to beat since they got such OP healing and damage reduction that negates ALL ranged damage (you can hit them forever and never notch them down at all) and most of melee damage. Now they get to keep their boons too, so they are even more OP vs thief. Ranger got a hackjob skill against thief now. Necro’s been annoying ever since they learned how to spam fear and dhuumfire and so on to push massive amounts of condi damage to down thief in seconds. Mesmer has always been the anti-thief with phantasms. Engineer…well not sure, but they bunker very well.

WvW: Same problem, except you can run away without really costing anything.

d/p is only effective if you can actually blind the enemy, they stay within the blind field, and they don’t attack fast enough to be not blinded for some of the strikes.

What’s the solution? We need more damage.

Thieves are perfectly viable in WvW though i will say not all builds are even remotely equal.

D best.3547:

DsoN.2794:

i am roaming all the time but i transfered to tc like 2days ago. look out for a tiny asura engineer

The one with the riffle? That’s the only TC solo Roamer I’ve seen. I liked him cause I’m an asura engineer. Also TC when you see someone is in a 2v1 and already finished one guy why you gotta bring 5 more in??? I can’t 6v1 yet!!!! But I’ll 3v1 anytime. Also TC after you engage in said 6v1 don’t call 7 more TC to chase the poor guy (in this case me) from north most ruins to south camp. it’s a pretty inefficient use of your time especially she over half of you are getting downed from the bombs I keep putting on the ground.

CNB 5 man roam squad and 30 man army had fun group fights so far in the matchup! Good fights on SoS BL today Ark+Inc sorry we had to retreat TC wanted to get sipped at our garrisons gates 24/7 and some of us wanted their loots. Sad I didn’t see AoN today I always love telling our people if you aren’t close enough in a ball AoN will eat your tail… And they do <3 those guys. CERN sorry nightlight hasn’t been on much (except Sunday morning) you guys are so much more of a challenge when he’s at the helm. And I’m curious who RoT is cause they weren’t on TC when I was there but there’s a lot of them are they like ex Pink? Did Jadon leave or are there a lot less Pink in WvW? Also I wanna fight EP come to SoS BL… Please …. CNB got stuck with garrison duty this week.

One of the CERN founders
D best

PS queues annoying you? SoS had queue free borderlands all of today you guys should come here.

I wonder, when you were here did you call for reinforcements during every engagement? because we certainly don’t so stop being a kitten in thinking that every-time more people show up it was because someone told them to be there.

JaNordy.6149:

Asudementio.8526:

kartek.6428:

does anyone on tc solo roam or are there only 5 man hAvOk SqUaDz just curious

There are plenty of solo roamers from TC sadly we all have kitten specific stealth so your ilk never see us.

No, there are no solo roamers for TC. I have solo roamed for hours 3 different nights, nothing, not one solo roamer. You run in groups of 2 or more. I tried to find some solo people in JP but even that had people running in groups, glad you see you all paid attention to the buddy system in elementary school. SoS even teamed up with TC to form a truce to kill me in JP.

http://i.imgur.com/USYAyKc.jpg

See that’s funny cause i solo roam pretty often, not necessarily every night though. Guess you have bad luck- i’m sure being a kitten about your circumstances will improve them.

kartek.6428:

does anyone on tc solo roam or are there only 5 man hAvOk SqUaDz just curious

There are plenty of solo roamers from TC sadly we all have kitten specific stealth so your ilk never see us.

aceai.4895:

Asudementio.8526:

aceai.4895:

Asudementio.8526:

Werat.7063:

Asudementio.8526:

T3 garri omnomnom.

You sure you talked that through with mags? Usually they get first dips on our garri when no one`s home. I hope that`s not gonna get you in trouble…

But there were people home, enough to man a lot of that siege we destroyed.

@aceai.4895

Anytime! <3

We only had like 2 ac in lords room, and 5+ golems to take paper hills lol ?

When did i say hills ?

Took hills before garry

Where did i say anything about taking hills though.

aceai.4895:

Asudementio.8526:

Werat.7063:

Asudementio.8526:

T3 garri omnomnom.

You sure you talked that through with mags? Usually they get first dips on our garri when no one`s home. I hope that`s not gonna get you in trouble…

But there were people home, enough to man a lot of that siege we destroyed.

@aceai.4895

Anytime! <3

We only had like 2 ac in lords room, and 5+ golems to take paper hills lol ?

When did i say hills ?

Werat.7063:

Asudementio.8526:

Werat.7063:

Asudementio.8526:

T3 garri omnomnom.

You sure you talked that through with mags? Usually they get first dips on our garri when no one`s home. I hope that`s not gonna get you in trouble…

But there were people home, enough to man a lot of that siege we destroyed.

@aceai.4895

Anytime! <3

so you say so you say, 5 vs 50? Usually you guys turn up with a 60 man zerg during our downtime hours and if nothing helps pvdoor the reinforced gate. I remember last we met you spent an hour headbashing on our keep and had we actually bothered to port in supply you would still be standing at there.

Give yourselves more credit, you had many more than 5 and we had fewer than 50 i assure you. Though i never said we didn’t outnumber you. And as for the headbashing, what can i say- we are known for our tenacity.

Werat.7063:

Asudementio.8526:

T3 garri omnomnom.

You sure you talked that through with mags? Usually they get first dips on our garri when no one`s home. I hope that`s not gonna get you in trouble…

But there were people home, enough to man a lot of that siege we destroyed.

@aceai.4895

Anytime! <3

T3 garri omnomnom.

iAmTheDuke.6201:

hi arenet I recently transfered my 20 man guild to t1 with the help of t1 guilds and these t1 guilds promised achievements to be easy and promised a cool t1 finisher with the new patch.. but all I get is lions arch in a que timer. I was lied to and my guild is not happu . Is there a way to get my guild back to my normal server? Try in advance.

10/10 for satire

To the SWaG necro i fought at the southern camp sentry,

Good duel until the mag militia interfered.

-The Thief

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

All that transferring has to be expensive

Not so expensive when you are getting paid to move, am i right Agg?

katniss.6735:

This thread is all fine and dandy, but Mag’s been waiting forever to fight the top 3, not these run-of-the-mill t2 scraps.

Lol, you can’t even handle these “scraps” much less T1.

aceai.4895:

Asudementio.8526:

Snafu.7412:

grave of hearts.7830:

Snafu.7412:

WTH, we’re somewhat competitive in Oceanic and SEA time….is this real life?

Dont know,keep tossing me bags.
I got a legendary to feed.

Doubt you’re getting any, doesn’t look like SoS is playing at all.

Idk, they kept clogging up my bags last night.

Got lots of bags from TC yesterday.

Yep, sharing is caring.

Snafu.7412:

grave of hearts.7830:

Snafu.7412:

WTH, we’re somewhat competitive in Oceanic and SEA time….is this real life?

Dont know,keep tossing me bags.
I got a legendary to feed.

Doubt you’re getting any, doesn’t look like SoS is playing at all.

Idk, they kept clogging up my bags last night.

XacTactX.6709:

WvW Season 1 is going to run for 7 weeks, or 49 days. This means we have to get one world rank every day for 7 weeks. The only people who will be able to attain this are regular WvWers, the same ones who are in dedicated WvW guilds. Please be a bit more reasonable with how much gameplay is required, 10 or 20 WXP ranks would be fine, 50 is overboard.

This is from the perspective of a casual WvW player, I have rank 30 on my Guardian and probably rank 50 or so across all my characters. I enjoy WvW a lot and it’s fun to strategize on voice chat (especially in small havoc teams) but I don’t know if I’m hardcore enough for this. ):

50 ranks is nothing for a 7 week period. I have also seen an increase drop rate of liquid wxp. I think 50 is a sufficient threshold to distinguish dedicated WvWers with the more casual players being excluded from the seasonal rewards. Though i will agree that there will be those who fall in between the cracks.

Havidos.9328:

No further discussion is needed, I think everyone agrees.

I don’t; i like the achievements and their rewards. You shouldn’t have stacked, dealw ith your queues.

This idea is trash; all it will end up doing is make the bandwagon up to T1 NA even more favorable. GG anet on killing WvW.

BlackAngel.1349:

Good fights last night on JQ BL with NOPE, STUN, PLX, EE, and even a couple with EP after their GvG. We had a ton of fun, and the fights by lake against NOPE and STUN where amazing. Good luck on your next matchup, may the fights be ever in your favor

NS is easily the most resilient and independent guild group we have fought from JQ; keep it up NS- we would like to see you out on the battlefield again, hopefully when we can get more of our guild out.

Cuddlepie.8109:

Nuked.2360:

Cuddlepie.8109:

If you’re interested in history, you might want to consider it a little more widely:
JQ: 19 Gold, 17 Silver, 19 Bronze. Total medals = 55
BG: 14 Gold, 11 Silver, 14 Bronze. Total 39
SoR: 8 Gold, 20 silver, 9 Bronze. total = 37.

And for this week’s match where it’s JQ vs BG vs lower tiered server, it’s just midweek and JQ is 48K ahead.

JQ can’t claim historical victimhood with any credibility.

You proved our point you guys have almost as much gold medals we just have a metric ton of silver/bronze medals almost the same amount as golds.

Without this weeks’ match JQ has 36% more gold medals than BG. Only in Nuked-world is this almost the same amount.

With this week’s match it goes up to 43%.

Thinking says you’re wrong.

How easy do you guys want your wins to be?

Percentages in relatively small ranges of numbers is an offensive way to show disparities; after all if JQ had 2 gold and BG 1 gold and they had only fought thrice JQ would have 100% more gold medals than BG!!!!