Go into the Ele forums, you will see why ANET thinks Ele needs buffs. Literally every ele player that posts in there cries about how bad ele is in PVP.
What’s funny is when I take my ele (class i have the least experience with out of my 5) I did not look at build specifics just knew I needed clerics amulet and a 0/10/0/30/30 build didn’t look at what traits were specific just kinda picked and chose… Went into a couple tourneys/hotjoins and it was insane how many boons I had and how much just swapping into water healed me and the damage was still some what okay… But seriously something should be toned down here.
lol..you know that tanky amulets on any class make up easy to not die builds right?
I mean just because you was “omg look at me im healed”, “omg i cant die 1vs1 its op”..that doesnt mean a thing.
I really doubt you even understand what is the problem top players have with this class..
Any class? Try doing that with a thief… HAHAHAHAH no… Doing it with a mesmer is POSSIBLE but because most of our tankiness comes from having a phantasmal defender out the summon can easily be blinded and even at our tankiest we still have terrible condi removal. Full tank guardians.. Well that’s what they were meant to do.. Full tank warriors… Just won’t happen.. Necro maybe but they don’t do it as well as an ele… Not even close. The BM bunker ranger can be pretty good but doesn’t have as much group utility/healing as the bunker ele… And Engi with the new turret buffs maybe but i doubt it. The problem top players have is that the bunker ele build out performs every other bunker build in the game by a long shot… And I did not say 1v1 I was however able to dance around on the node and pretty much feel invincible and have a FULL boon uptime on several boons… and just fully heal myself using one of 3 different methods…
ele outperforms every other bunker??seriously?
Ranger bunker heals as much while doing much more damage.
Guardian has multiple times more group utility with node control,stability,rezzes and he is not forced off point to heal or into invuln that lose the point.
Dude you really have no idea about the origin of the complaints and the ele at far problem..
To give you the clue ..(its all about the mobility)
And that coupled with all the other awesome ness of a bunker ele=BEST IN GAME
Dude.. its pointless.You said its op cause you ecuiped clercis and 30 in water and werent dying against noobs in hot join.I said THAT proves nothing..
Did i say anything about being too strong??It can be pretty much disgustingly op and what you said in your post would still be wrong.I rest my case since this talk is pointless
Dude.. its pointless.You said its op cause you ecuiped clercis and 30 in water and werent dying against noobs in hot join.I said THAT proves nothing..
Did i say anything about being too strong??It can be pretty much disgustingly op and what you said in your post would still be wrong.I rest my case since this talk is pointlessedit:lol whats up with the double paragraph? In editing it appears only 1 :S
Go into the Ele forums, you will see why ANET thinks Ele needs buffs. Literally every ele player that posts in there cries about how bad ele is in PVP.
What’s funny is when I take my ele (class i have the least experience with out of my 5) I did not look at build specifics just knew I needed clerics amulet and a 0/10/0/30/30 build didn’t look at what traits were specific just kinda picked and chose… Went into a couple tourneys/hotjoins and it was insane how many boons I had and how much just swapping into water healed me and the damage was still some what okay… But seriously something should be toned down here.
lol..you know that tanky amulets on any class make up easy to not die builds right?
I mean just because you was “omg look at me im healed”, “omg i cant die 1vs1 its op”..that doesnt mean a thing.
I really doubt you even understand what is the problem top players have with this class..
Any class? Try doing that with a thief… HAHAHAHAH no… Doing it with a mesmer is POSSIBLE but because most of our tankiness comes from having a phantasmal defender out the summon can easily be blinded and even at our tankiest we still have terrible condi removal. Full tank guardians.. Well that’s what they were meant to do.. Full tank warriors… Just won’t happen.. Necro maybe but they don’t do it as well as an ele… Not even close. The BM bunker ranger can be pretty good but doesn’t have as much group utility/healing as the bunker ele… And Engi with the new turret buffs maybe but i doubt it. The problem top players have is that the bunker ele build out performs every other bunker build in the game by a long shot… And I did not say 1v1 I was however able to dance around on the node and pretty much feel invincible and have a FULL boon uptime on several boons… and just fully heal myself using one of 3 different methods…
ele outperforms every other bunker??seriously?
Ranger bunker heals as much while doing much more damage.
Guardian has multiple times more group utility with node control,stability,rezzes and he is not forced off point to heal or into invuln that lose the point.
Dude you really have no idea about the origin of the complaints and the ele at far problem..
To give you the clue ..(its all about the mobility)
Go into the Ele forums, you will see why ANET thinks Ele needs buffs. Literally every ele player that posts in there cries about how bad ele is in PVP.
What’s funny is when I take my ele (class i have the least experience with out of my 5) I did not look at build specifics just knew I needed clerics amulet and a 0/10/0/30/30 build didn’t look at what traits were specific just kinda picked and chose… Went into a couple tourneys/hotjoins and it was insane how many boons I had and how much just swapping into water healed me and the damage was still some what okay… But seriously something should be toned down here.
lol..you know that tanky amulets on any class make up easy to not die builds right?
I mean just because you was “omg look at me im healed”, “omg i cant die 1vs1 its op”..that doesnt mean a thing.
I really doubt you even understand what is the problem top players have with this class..
If it wasn’t /D it would be /F.
Then you can sleep on 7s of invulnerability + Proj destruction & reflection + Shock aura for the melee, and chill, with dat dere Armor of earth & Arcane block. + teh dodges. You’d still be trippin. Lucky Focus is meh in general.
Has always been bad, but ugh sometimes you want to barf at it.
If a person displaces themself before a projectile hits them…it should actually not hit
Wait it does?Im quite certain that i have many times moved away from slow projectiles both by moving plus blinking.Besides wasnt here a thread that said that every projectile should be unavoidable without dodging in order for this game to be esports :P
Anyway its actually bad but this is still an mmo..Hitboxes are huge ,latency issues alter your actual position etc..And of course melee attacks have a range twice as big as their animation that stretch even slightly behind the char.
On the other hand many attacks have the reverse problem and miss when they should hit(firegrab and lightning whip of ele for example)
rtl should be affected by all slows, and recharge reduced to 15 sec again.
why devs don’t get this is a mystery.
/thread
Can we agree at 12 sec then which would be a bit better that swoop but not better than gs/sword ranger unless you go d/d plus conjures/blink!
Who cares about pvp anymore , i just want fast travelling times in wvw :P
kitten you deserters..And kitten you anet for thinking a pug of 20 ranks with 1-2 40 rank could do anything against full premades..kitten this game and kitten me for wasting so many hours today trying to find a match that has at least even number of players
Point is that while you couldnt leave the point that wasnt the case only for you but also for the ele who couldnt help his team cause he repeatedly attacked far..
Seriously theres only one way to stop an ele (and every class that does this) from back capping..Mobility+good 1vs1 abilities+enemy position awareness.Thief should be the perfect candidate for sticking with the ele to counter both his back capping\and reinforce the team fight if the ele stops attacking far like a drone..
Besides that mesmer with portal is already a must..having less far point assaulting options for the other team would make mesmer necessity even higher.
I still think if classes like thief get their options widen there should be no “ele” problem
Defending our side point with mesmer, ele crossed…brought him to “almost down” 4 times….and every time he just mist form> rtl away, rufulled and started all over again…at the end i had to call our war to wait for that kittener outside henge and bring him finally down cause i couldn’t leave the point (With portal) to go help somewhere else, and i was “just a bit” kitten since he kept coming back full life in seconds after running away like a dam rabbit to avoid being downed once and for all….mesmer’s mobility compared to ele’s…you know….
Wait..he was just attacking far,getting beaten up from you and leaving the point?
Did he at least get the point neutral?..What a terrible ele that was :P
Seriously if he kept attacking far with you there without managing to beat you or having the point neutral for a considerable amount of time then you should be happy
with the advantage you had.. even without managing to leave home point your mesm should be gratefull!
Id be happy if 1 or more of this changes were to happen to scepter
1)Shatterstone..you know it,i know it this kitten is bugged.It lets you cast nothing after you activate it and there is no casting bar ..it even lets you dodge at that time without interrupting it..Besides its so bad of an ability that i can count in 1 hand the times ive used it total.
2)Dust Devil..A blind with non existant damage with that casting time and that travelling speed??Another poor excuse of a filler
3)Fire autoattack..its slow,weak and it burns when an ele can burn so reliable..bad autoattack is bad!No one bothers to cast it apart from the game system if you have set it to auto
4)Maybe slightly(and only slightly) increase Dragon’s Tooth landing speed so its harder for a chilled person to avoid it.Increase cd to compensate.I really doubt anyone is getting any benefit from it having only 6 cd anyway.You ll only use it 1 tops when on fire.Number 4 is more of a dream!! than a request
You can nerf stuff all you want but for the good of the game there should be no weapon skills that are NOT good to cast at pretty much any situation like shatterstone..
If all i play hot joins i am the 99% of the population and what anet should take into account if they want this game to become even remotely popular.
Esports dont come from the hard core.END!PERIOD!
Suck it up..
(i loathe hot joins actually but thats not the point)
guys about the dragons tooth i dont agree much about being useless.
Its just requires a really good amount of skill to use it properly.
One way i use it to land dts lately(just an experimental build) is i use glyph of elemental power to keep my enemy on weakness and after i see them out of dodges
i roll on oearth for evasive arcanas 3 sec cripple and then cast the dt.If the guy doesnt react immediately he wont manage to avoid it.If he blows a defencive cooldown for a 6 sec cd dt You Win.
Also you can cast it and then go in earth and blow up an arcane with elem surge for the immob or blow arcane power→ phoenix -> and immediately switch to earth.
The phoenix will ALWAYS cause immob 3 times and thats enough most of times.
Just another example of how high skill cap this class has/.
Such a shame people think its a faceroll..that makes me feel bad
^he can kill ele..he kittening streams while killing premade heavy ele teams with pugs..:(
Thats why i dont get why he thinks ele bunker at far is problem.
I just think its just a passing trend.. and not best effective way to play the game.A good mobile team will stop the invader at far no matter what and an ele dpsing and aoe healing at team fights just seem better to me than sending him solo far over and over and over again..
Lol Oni do you seriously think back point holder shatter mesmer with portal is harder than ele??
And seriously thief is only hard cause teams have adjusted to his ridicoulous burst.
There is nothing and i mean NOTHING hard on executing the 1 shot combo.
NOTHING.PERIOD!
Its the same as saying warrior is hard to play ..No its not hard by itself people just have a lot of tools to lock him down thus is less effective.
No wonder why curse hasnt got any access to ptr..No absolute sence of correct balancing.Just bandaiding what seems to be a problem no matter the concequences.At least from sotg the devs seem to know that theres a line were mathematically something is balanced and whats left is people starting to l2p
Also i find really stupid claiming you have 100%(in other posts) win ratio and at same time degrading other teams for playing eles..You basically imply that not only are you better for winning 100% but also for making up for a massive disadvantage runniing warrior and only 1 ele..Thats too hard for me to believe it.Sorry..
No underestimation, Snares just mean little to me.
Yep cause..you play thief!Shadowstep isnt affected by snares :P
See it like that, if a warrior with almost twice the hp is completely locked down by snares no point in having a (by default) squishier class the same
To clarify by default i mean ele with no heavy water traits,toughness,vitality,healing investment
dude you did it again :P
You force certain utilities into players..Like mist form wasnt already enough!
That isn’t forcing a utility on you in actuality.
Not to disregard your point of it perhaps being too crippling in general, but it’s not forcing a utility on you at all.
For instance you can take Lightning Flash for enhanced mobility that is not effected by slows in any form. Whether RTL is reduced or not, you would have LF to help in an escape. Or you’d hit CW , air attunement -> Rtl. Or sure you could take cleansing Fire. Or you Dgaf you take signet of water. Bottom line choice isn’t forced upon you.
Though it may be a poor change to make.
You don’t make a build disregarding your utilities in relation to your needs.
Otherwise thieves would roll 3/4 signets all day to smack things with 15+ power because they can full disregard, the idea of threats.
I know that! :P
My point is that if you need to take a 50 sec utility to make rtl up to what it was before the nerf and also taking account how mediocre general specs for ele are besides the fotm build one could only guess in what bottomless pit this class would end :P
I could surely do things to ensure that rtl still grants me an escape.But i also could do a lot less any more. So now the need for cond removal traits,the need for cantrips and boons is twice as much as before..
Dont know if you get my point..i might be wrong but i think specs like d/d and s/d would need a small redesign if something like that was to happen.
Also you really underestimate the frequency classes apply the snares.And cond removals dont by default cleasne snares first.You could have 2 singet of water but if they were to cleanse your weakness and vulnerability then whats the point?
Rng much??!!!! :P
dude you did it again :P
You force certain utilities into players..Like mist form wasnt already enough!
Besides its 50 sec cd and the snares classes have are at much lower cd.
If only we could test the rtl somehow affected by slows you would see how low ele would drop.Besides anet already somewhat addresed this issue by raising the cd to 20 sec.
They would NEVER do that if it was meant to be affected by slows.Its range alone doesnt justify that huge cd compared to waht other classes have!
So a BURST/DPS ele will have to care about cleansing damaging condies off his 13k HEALTH ,cleanse the slows that hinder his major form of defence,focus on landing his HIGHLY AVOIDABLE burst,dodge the HEAVY burst moves that other !!! proffesions have..
On top of managing more than twice the amount of cds other classes have and having a total burst htat in numbers is quite mediocre apart from the fact thats entirely aoe..
Dont you think thats a bit too much??:P
I would love to see you play it thought (if it ever happens).Being crippled by a thief and hs till death..or being jumped on get chilled andthen melt in 1 burst.
Oh man it sure would be balanced
it turns out that there exists a bunker build for eles that is quite good. they are not the poor helpless low hp class with no defense.
it’s madness to give the ele a 1200 gap closer that’s immune to slows. TWELVEHUNDRED. “poor defenseless eles need a way to reset fights.” right.
make rtl affected by slows. how is this still in the game?? we’ll see how the stealth nerf works out, but i have a feeling it won’t be enough.
see thats why you arent a game developer..You have something in your mind and think only how to bring it down to what you think is fair no matter the cost..
Just because there is ONE bruiser build that you think its too strong that doesnt mean we should nerf whatever keeps remotely viable all other specs..
Get it on your head..Rtl affects everything.Healing power and its scaling affects mostly what you hate of..
But sure keep going
In short if milo was in charge eles would be even more pigeonholed into heavy bunker builds only this time they would just be less effective.
I just think a lot of people want to know this so we can decide whether this game is worth continuing with. People are trying stuff out atm but only because there is no ladder. And still every serious team has at least 1 ele in and often 2. Even 3 eles is a strong team. Can you imagine a 3 necro or 3 engi team? LOL.
I promise the devs that if no ele nerfs come in the next patch there will be a similar outcry as at the balance from the last patch. We need at least the same level of nerfs as in the last patch to be honest.
The ele has the following (in 1 build):
1, Unrivalled mobility which cannot be slowed or crippled
2, Exceptional healing to themselves and all allies
3, AoE damage which is greater than any other classes AoE damage and more than alot on single target damage
4, Multiple “I messed up but still wont die” buttons which grant other benefits in the form of boons
5, Exceptional condition removal for them and their allies
6, The ability to give everyone swiftness at the start of a game for a huge duration
7, The ability to stack boons on them and their allies which can give them constantly high might, protection when needed and almost perma access to vigor (more invulnerability via dodging – very powerful) and regen (“Hi, I dont die and I dont have to heal”)
To win without an ele is difficult. They will send the ele to your far point. You will need 2 people to kill him. Except you won’t kill him, he will just run off and survive whilst you waited 2 people for 30 seconds+ and didnt even cap the point for that time. SO your outnumbered on the rest of the map.
And that is just the start. After that an ele can just keep pressure on your close point all game forcing you to use portal back or to keep someone there. And with 2 ele it is even better because at least 1 can go to the big team fights and just dominate by stacking might on everyone, healing everyone, never dying, and dishing out crazy aoe damage on everyone there.
So will this class be nerfed?
1) lol what is immob for??And if he goes to water for cleanse then be fr4ee to burst
2)Lol ..define exceptional
3)thats obviously not true or you are rather clueless about some aoe builds other classes offer..very very naive of you this one
4)Well most classes have a few i messed up utilities..just people have better options like portal,illusion,rez signet,haste,frenzy etc..Nothing ele specific this one
5)Some what true but whatever
6)Yes please adress this..its so kittening annoying having the worry of staying with that crappy idioticly underpowered weapon that is staff for the rest of the game
7)Again low armor/health classes have boons..obvious patter.
Pls l2p or just move on..
The way you describe ele as an ultimate god means that the difference between you and your ele enemies in fight must be massive.I dont think you ll ever be pleased no matter how much they nerf so better start l2playing the game..
I liked how they mentioned multiple times and in the end how they cant promote their game cause it lacks massively in every esport section..
Nice to know their down to earth and..you can always wait you know.As long as they have money theres always chance they pull it off sometime
In before haters criticize because enemies dont dodge churning earth:
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Why do people assume that you should have a 100 miss rate with churning earth.
I mean is it so hard for the ele to have you in weakness and out of your dodges before casting the kitten thing ?? :P
Nice vid btw and judging from minor air trait and damage numbers its not another vid of copy paste the fotm build.
(Well on the other hand its still cantrips :P)
if classes were balanced 1v1 would they not also be balanced 5v5?
seems so to me.
No..1 word AOE (or maybe 3 )
The class with more aoe in healing,damage,boons offers much more in teammfight even if it would lack in 1vs1.
Also there are so many other kinds of synergy like how a class could have a impossible burst to land in 1vs1 which brought it low in the 1vs1 tier but in team fights with cc locking its viable.
If the game was balanced in 1vs1 it would either be unbalanced in team fights or..it would be a very very very boring game.
Lol i should read more of the above posts before i reply to threads :P
Basicaly what PowerBottom says!
Short story..
1)The class has been mostly nerfed to many areas (mobility /healing) since when you stopped playing.
2)The class is considered one if not the strongest in game for many scenarios especially in pvp where its kind of mandatory and every team has 1 or more.
I leave the conclusions to you
No they shouldnt be like engie kits (we cant have everything :P)
Imo they need lower cd,lower casting time.The fact that your teammates can pick them up is making up somewhat for their drawbacks but its not quite enough yet.
Also i dont pve very often but i did fractals some time ago and i managed to stun a boss with ice bow 5 when it seemed to not have run out of defiant stacks.
Is this possible or it was something random and i didnt notice that there were no d stacks??
Yep you can defend gw2 as much as you want but a quick trip to other games that are in just beta will burst your bubble
Still i presonally prefer gw2 combat more..so imo it would be such a shame if this doesnt get where it could be.
Well im happy!!
The only reason why thief/mesm threads are emerging in this forum ONCE AGAIN, must be..that new blood is coming to pvp!!!!
Rejoice everyone !
So is this coming or not..? Just a yes or no from anet would be nice.
Btw if theres a way to make them change it by reporting or anything that would be awsome..Im pretty sure my name is offencive in some language :P
1vs1 balance would matter if there was no synergy between classes..since synergy can make a group stronger than the sum of their individual power i dont really get what the op saying .. ?
Like when a warrior and an ele fight together the warrior gets resistance to conditions and the ele makes up for the loss of dps for getting access to the cond removals.Thats definately much more than just adding an easily snared warrior and a low dps ele and have them keep their low points
Lol no im not having fun..the mmr system is crap.It takes min to get a match when i go solo and then one team has a bunch of low ranks where the rest are rank 40..
Apparently the system thinks that for example 2 rank 50s can carry 3 rank 10s against a random team of rank 40s etc..Sad
Ah did i mention that you see the same people all the time..yeah this games is totally growing
^dude thats life..i also cant play cond elementalist etc.
Also your 2 warriors example is wrong.You assume that balance should occure at the point when they both start at 50% hp completely ignoring what happened before etc.
Its like 2 thieves play against each other and are at 25% hp and one has dagger mh and heartseeker..Its over!
Cond builds lack burst so the lower the hp at starting the fight the lower their effectiveness .Not rocket science :P
Well for a medium and light armored class you also want to give them no dmg? Then what? Make thieves perma-chilled and mesmer perma-dazed? wtf….
lol..i remember you saying the same thing as him about eles(THE lowest armor/health class ingame)
Oh yeah..totally unbiased ! :P
Anyway in a game where avoidance of damage is everything armor/health dont matter.
Go ask warrior
again one more time..A bunker should not survive forever against a pure glass canon.
Im not saying that it should melt to it but the 2 extremes should when faced against each other(escapes exclude) be nullified
A bunker should have a chance to kill a glass canon as well as a glass canon should definately be able to outdamage the defences of the bunker.And of course glass canons should be countered by balanced builds in sence that the latter have both enough damage and survival options to avoid damage and down them.
Actually guardians can be soloed by non “pure” gc of a few classes already.Its just an ele problem and what we (non fotm hardcore eles) have been screaming in ages about lack of reliable burst compared to the plethora of oh kitten buttons and escapes each class has.
When you play s/d burst build and you have only 1 cc in 40 sec cd that lets you land your most damaging spell without them being literally walked off range by a guy with 400 ms reaction time you know THERES A PROBLEM..
Maybe back in beta that huge nerf in arcanes cooldown should have been aimed at cantrips instead
guys i think you dont understand..
His problem is that he cant kill a bunker guard at all.Not that he cant kill in 1 shot Optimally every class should have a build as ridiculous as it is that it should take down even the most defencive class eventually and the devs themselves said that offence>defence in sence that the one end defeats the other end.
In otherwards the damage a bunker does is not enough to kill the pure glass before that kills the bunker WHENEVER that happens.
That doesnt exclude the bunker being able to outlive for minutes a 2vs1 against balanced builds and hybrids.
Imo his problem is in the class he plays and his poor decisions on when to burst and how to manage cooldowns.Ele gc builds are amongs the hardest glass canon builds in game(apart from totall unviable)..
I hope im understood
Actually I wasn’t reading properly, my fault here. But even gc-eles are strong on 1v1. Saying they’re not, is a lack of knowledge.
Well i assume as glass ele he doesnt mean something like x/x/x/30/30 with offencive runes +berserkers amu..that isnt glass canon.
Thats bunker build with zerkers :P
If you dont go heavy in arcane you end up with massive cd on att swap and well we know what happens to an ele without boons,no heal that has run out of skills and needs to spam those lovely autoattacks !
dude theres your problem..you play non fotm ele and even worse a kittening glass canon.IT DOESNT WORK.
Either go water arcane and accept that you cant kill bunkers at all or..
accept that you have the most obvious burst in game thus the least chance to kill people in glass before they kill you.
I had an experiment with a friend guardian on wether i could kill a guard with a 30/30/x/x/x spec full damage and well..you really need play good and burst out of the blue or his cooldowns will out last you..i assume that against top guards that are prepared for this damage from you you dont stand a chance.
Also keep in mind that bunkers of other classes like ranger do insanely more damage than guard and those will kill you.
Its not a general bunker problem though since other classes can actually kill them
so honest opinion..when picking a guy for orb runner is it ele or ranger??
And if you answer ranger then..wtf are you complaining about ?
(Though being a viable orb runner is jus the icing in the ele cake:P)
i just got farmed by a rank 40 full premade on a team of 3 rank 5-10 and 1 rank 45..
This is so kitten .you still cant play this game without a team..not unless you have really really strong nerves.
holly kitten look at the att recharge rate..im so jealous right now!Balance is a kitten
signed. Eles shudnt be only ones with a long movement skill while the other classes crawl around with the orb.
eles,invuln engies and freaking rangers!! leaping every second and evading, as well as bunker guardians.I think giving orb runners set of skills and a set of stats! wouldnt mess with balance but i guess it was their choice to have some classes as carriers and others as carrier stoperslike necros
^Well..you dont really have to believe me.
Just go watch vids of any ele that streams so far even from top teams and tell me what is their accuracy with spells like firegrab ,dragons tooth and to a lesser extent phoenix.
The closer to dps ele ive seen so far is based on earth /air combo and arcanes whith “fire being just an extra” (that was phantarams words exactly)
If you have trouble setting up your damage as a warrior the trouble is double as burst ele (on fire).Only reason this is not an issue so far is that after a water rotation you can try again and again and again..etc
@Lordrosicky Dont know if thats the case.But if they ever make it so its affected then i ll expect all the complaints about ele to stop at least from those at top pvp level.
If you cant cripple an ele and prevent him from reaching the far point or escaping then you just suck.Even with no nerfs at healing just that change should solve all the problems people have with this class.
Of course then id expect some buffs to damage reliability and crappy traits but thats another story..
The problem is there are inconsistnacies. The warrior GS 5 ability and 3 ability have vastly reduced range when carrying the orb. This is balanced. Ride the lightning isnt balanced because it is unaffected by the orb. It also makes no sense for rtl to be unaffected by chills and cripples.
I think the devs should clarify this. ATM spirit watch is by FAR the best and most fun map imo. However……..its not tournament ready until they fix rtl with the orb.
Can you verify for me if warriors sword leap is affected?
Also theres no reason for 20 sec cd if rtl is gonna get affected by chills and cripples.A lot of classes spam those at constant rate so if that was true then you had any s/d build unable to escape.You usually cant cleasne conditions while in air either so you are limited to either cleanse or get the hell out of there .
So pls enlight me with that rtl change you say what is the build every ele will immediately go too then??
i think the full cond cleansing bunker one :P
