I just don’t understand the complaint…..I have never, ever, in 17 level 80s, thought “OMG this needs to be removed”…ever….
Same here.
The opinions of vets are ofcourse valued, but I think there needs to be more good news stories about this game. I wanted the wider community and Anet to know that theres plenty of us that really love GW2 and appreciate the work behind it.
There will always be haters and those who are bitter, but the other side of the coin needs to see the light of day sometimes too
Considering how you state that veteran opinions are valued in one breath and spit on them in your next breath, hinting that they’re “haters” and/or “bitter”, because you only seem to see things in black and white – I suppose I should not be offended by anything you say.
Perhaps one day you will come to the realization that those that are complaining and those that love the game are one and the same.
As this thread isn’t constructive – Please lock.
I was going to wish the OP farewell… truly I was. Then I saw his later post and it screamed too much of the “attention seeking” behavior that Mark has commented on.
…… Meh.
Its my belief that we will eventually have games like this. Where every players actions and decisions ACTUALLY makes an impact on the “world”, large or small. Two of the main problems would be in creating such a game that could support it, which is by far the hardest, and in people letting go of their hardwired belief that they should be allowed access to everything and anything that every other player has or had access to. It would be a TRUE Living World.
Personally I would love a game like that…
But make no mistake – Guild Wars 2 will never be that game.
Though from my understanding the OP is suggesting that decisions made don’t actually make a difference because they will always end up at the same conclusion. Which means that there is only an illusion of choice… which is not a choice at all. I wouldn’t enjoy that as much.
Where’s the apology on behalf of Anet for the attempt at a shameless money grab, eh Gaille?
And for your previous poor behavior?
……ArenaNet Forum Communications Team Lead……she has nothing to do with the decisions made by NCsoft or Anet, and nowhere near the top of that totem pole. Express concerns to the guys/gals that continue to lead this game…in the direction and state it’s in now (twitter is a good start, gaming sites, and NCsoft).
You don’t go after the mailman when your cell phone bill comes in wrong, go to the source.
No, you don’t go after the mailman. Some dogs do though…
Considering this issue has largely been addressed, beyond another issue that Gaile has already stated that she would look into tomorrow, I think its best that we just ignore the continued hatemongering efforts by some here.
Continued negativity even after Gaile’s last few statements is depressing to me. Meh.
Gaile, try not to take any of …. this… home with you.
Here’s an update for you:
It’s clear that quite a lot of you would like to have greater flexibility in using the Currency Exchange. Our intention when we designed the new interface was to streamline large volume purchases, which make up the majority of transactions.
In light of your feedback, we will update the Currency Exchange so that you can decide how you want to use it. We will keep the new streamlined system and also offer a new “Custom” button on the panel that you can use to exchange any increment of gems or gold.
We anticipate rolling this out soon. Stay tuned!
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Sorry for the delay in posting this, but out of respect to our international community, we wanted to be able to post in several forums at once.
Thank you, Gaile, for an official response here on the forums.
I’m not trying to discredit anybody here. However, as some have mentioned, they have seen players making posts about having quit the game, yet see those same players on their friends list logging in daily. If you’re posting about how long ago you quit the game, yet log in daily, that’s attention-seeking.
The point I’m getting at here is that while there are people who behave in that manner, there are at least as many, if not more, players who legitimately come and go for whatever reasons and should not be punished for that simple fact. I don’t assume somebody is using those tactics just because they say that they quit the game, and anybody (yes anybody) who is leaving constructive and respectful feedback has a right to leave said feedback, regardless of their last login date.
I should also add that the considerations for this feature were over two years ago when we were launching the forums and determining what type of restrictions to put in place.
Thank you for your quick responses here, Mark. It is appreciated by all of us, even by those that may not agree with you. I’m glad to hear I was mistaken in my fears over one of your previous statements.
To be honest, as a GW"1" player, I feel bad for Gaile. She seems to be forced in the position of a talking head. She is better than that…
Agreed. I wish it wasn’t Gaile who said what was said.
I think you have a personal axe to grind, I see no problem with them wanting to allow anyone that has purchased the game and had an active account to continue to post on the forums. Also, as Pixelpumpkin pointed out above, they were unable to log into the game for 2 months due to personal reasons…just what exactly do you see as their attitude towards their customers anyways…other than being accommodating.
My problem was Mark admitting they considered restricting people who had purchased the game but had not been active from participating on the forums. That and the attitude that there was a real issue with attention-seeking individuals pretending to be inactive and that he deemed it worth his time to be labeling players in this way.
The problem is that Guild Wars 2 is advertised as a game where a player can come and go at will because it is subscription free, and as such the forums are a reflection of that. The reason subscription games can restrict access in their forums goes hand in hand with them also restricting the game to those that haven’t kept up with their subscription payments.
As far as Mark’s attitude towards “attention-seeking individuals claiming to have quit but are still quite active”… My feelings are mixed. I’m positive that is a tactic forum posters have used. It can’t really be denied. However I also believe the way he expressed his distaste did more to discredit far more people than just the ones he has labeled as only “attention-seeking”. Was that intentional?
Can you not. There are periods of time where I just can’t log in for weeks because of university, it doesn’t mean I don’t love the game or want to be able to contribute to discussions.
Don’t worry, FlamingFoxx. I believe Mark has already stated that they will not. Enjoy your school time and your periodic breaks into GW2.
Kotaku is now reporting that Anet is planning to change in response to the outcry:
http://kotaku.com/guild-wars-2-players-angry-over-currency-exchange-chang-1649519173
Update: ArenaNet has responded with plans to update the Currency Exchange so players can use it as they wish. They offered the following statement:
“It’s clear that quite a lot of you would like to have greater flexibility in using the Currency Exchange. Our intention when we designed the new interface was to streamline large volume purchases, which make up the majority of transactions.
In light of your feedback, we will update the Currency Exchange so that you can decide how you want to use it. We will keep the new streamlined system and also offer a new “Custom” button on the panel that you can use to exchange any increment of gems or gold.
We anticipate rolling this out soon. Stay tuned!"
Well that would be good news. Thank you for sharing.
Why not suggest pay-gating the forums to those who spend so much in gems per month?
Yeah, that’s just about as good an idea.
You do realize the largest brunt of criticism comes from ACTIVE players. The very extremely few that claim to have quit, being blocked, would hardly even be a drop in the complaint bucket.
Gods no… You gave them an idea. cries
WE tell everybody that GW2 is an amazing game because when it gets boring, you can just leave it for however long and return at any point in time. Revoking people’s post privileges based on in-game activity seems wrong.
Secondly, there is a lot of people who are not playing the game because something or other changed (and shouldn’t have) or didn’t change (but should) – and many of them have stated that they would love to play again if one day x or y or z happens. Why should they not be able to partake in the discussion? They bought the game, same as everybody else.
Thirdly, when I spent 2 months in hospital, I was unable to play, which only meant that I read/posted in the forums all the more.
Well said, Pixelpumpkin. Well said.
How feasible is it?
Lets see… Let me just go download several updates and log in for a sec, maybe say hello to my friends.
There. Activity accomplished!
What were we talking about again?
Yep, just another nail in the old coffin.
Going to be great for those who enjoy solo play.
Must be one of the largest coffins ever created, seeing as they apparently have put nails in it with every single release since the game launched according to some people on these forums.
Well yes, silly, as it has to hold a lot of bodies.
Where are you finding all these new players that are so easily confused by things like skills, traits, utilities at lower levels, and now how gems/gold conversion works? The loony bin? An elementary school? If you are having to dumb down the game to this extent, maybe the rest of us would rather they dont come here. I know what dumbing down the game did for WoW, I would prefer this game didnt repeat that mistake.
Perhaps GW2 will devolve into a glorified version of Pac-Man to avoid any and all confusion. Hmmm…
From the perspective of one that quit the game a few months ago and is just checking in now to see if the state of the game has changed, I find myself unsurprised by this. The remaining members of my most prominent guild hoped I would return eventually but I truly don’t believe it will happen. ArenaNet is not the company it once was, nor is GW2 as a result, and I think more people are coming to that realization now too.
Understand that the guild that I left behind was far more faithful than I was in this game, after all they did hold out longer than I could, but I have already received messages saying that more of them are quiting now because of this. Even the most loyal can only take so much, right?
My suggestion would be to Revert ASAP. But you don’t want my suggestion, I’m sure. Not just because I stopped playing months ago… but because I don’t support your decision in this. Am I right?
Good luck to those of you still playing GW2.
Good luck to ArenaNet… I will still remember you as the company you once were.
Take care.
- Az
I’m going to say goodbye to GW2 and the community as well.
Took months off from the game to see if it would turn around, if it would become fun and enjoyable again. Unfortunately it hasn’t. I’m not saying that its an awful game. There are people that still love it and I respect them for that. But I just can’t. It isn’t the game I was sold, it isn’t the game I thought it would be. I’ve been around through GW1 and here since Headstart… but I can no longer stand to “hold strong” or “just wait until the next patch”.
Please don’t ask for my stuff, goobers, as I logged in one last time to spread my wealth to my remaining friends and guild-members already.
Take care, everyone. Yes, even those of you on these forums that I may have butt heads with. Have fun!
Believe people have thrown out some sort of monk profession with that ability in past “future profession” threads.
Just tired of Mount threads flooding the forums. Its a cheap tactic. Keep them consolidated, please.
Now you have SAB people using the same tactic.
Don’t know why people feel the need to flood their opinions everywhere. In fact I feel it degrades every word you say when you do it. Personally I was not for or against SAB, as an example, but now with people spamming it in threads I’m no longer going to support it. If people childishly spam something, then I’m going to view the topic as being equally childish.
While this is about mounts, not SAB, I view it the same way.
Considering how I can no longer stand to play GW2 in its current state… No. I will not be around for GW3. The fact that people are already looking forward into the future at a third game, after only two years, is proof that the second game has failed.
Yeah, I have to admit, I can’t comprehend the “No it’s not in the game because its not in the game” argument. It seems so obviously flawed. I guess some people are just too basic to waste time with.
The strongest arguments against Mounts are:
- Outside of the Wurms in Nightfall, there is no history of mounts in the Guild Wars universe.
- With the current waypoint system and relatively small size of maps, there is no present need for mounts.
- Mounts w/buffs will likely create even further balance issues.
- Mounts w/o buffs, meaning cosmetic only, may create lag issues and flood player’s vision with even more than we already have to deal with.
These are all valid reasons against Mounts. Does that mean they will never be implemented? No. However those that want mounts MUST justify them against these reasons. If you can not – then you likely have little hope of getting ArenaNet to add them. I could very well be wrong in that because ArenaNet could just see it as another way to make money. * shrugs *
But if you only wish to downsize or insult the Anti-mount people’s reasoning, I’m afraid you’re not doing yourselves or your side of the debate any good.
You can do better.
While the forum search feature is broken, you can still do a general search through your browser. There are plenty of threads on player housing and Mount threads.
Good day.
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You have no idea of what I know or where I’ve been, but you should probably just stop arguing. Every time you say something like people RPG because this is an MMORPG, you are asking for this kind of feedback. Don’t make statements like that, and you won’t get this type of feedback.
The same could be directed right back at you. :/
When you continually take a disrespectful tone, is it really a surprise that you may receive the same? You’re creating much of it, though not all admittedly. If you actually took some care into what you’re saying and how you say it – I imagine the same consideration would be granted towards you.
Right now though I don’t see anybody cheering you on, Vayne, except yourself. I’m not happy with myself right now because I’ve allowed myself to post completely off topic and I’m rewarding you right now. You’re enjoying all of this. * sigh *
While its hard for me to remain quiet and/or ignore rude behavior – I’m going to try my hardest to completely ignore everything you have to say from this point forward. I don’t see anything productive coming from you to suggest that I should. I’m sorry in advance if that offends you.
Back to business: The commander tag is an organisational tool and it should only be used as such. Adding any silly achievements for having tags or for tagging up a lot is just plain silly as it gives wrong incentives for people to buy commander tags or for tagging up.
While I completely agree with you here, I’ll state for the record that it will happen regardless. Why? Because adding an achievement for it will draw the AP hunters into doing it, into PAYING for it. Its ugly business but its what we have.
- “LOOK AT ME!”
- “I’m rich, you know”
- “My mother won’t be happy when she checks her credit card”
Like all of those.
My first thought was – “Gem Kitten”
I’ll let you decide what word I actually wanted typed out.
Retention has a lot to do with the social aspect of the game, which has been reduced.
Just wanted to say how much I agree with this statement above. I’m still catching up on this thread as I’ve not been on the forums that much of late, nor have I been in game for 2 months now, I will likely stop posting on these forums eventually as I’ve lost almost all hope that this game will ever return to the game I loved.
I tip my hat to you, munkiman. While your entire post was great, this one sentence was the strongest for me. I’m sure Vayne probably already threw your words out and disagreed, saying something to the point of “but there are more people so you’re wrong”…. But I know the truth of it.
Quality over quantity of players. Period.
Are there more people in any given map? Yes. But its the same as someone shoving 150 cats into the back of a truck and saying that they are better for it.
Mhmmmmm…. NO.
People on different servers used to have to guest to get stuff done and complained about it. What about their freedom?
IF one chose a low pop server and then turned out to not like it they could Guest OR Transfer. Freedom was present whether you acknowledge it or not. Now there isn’t – at least on this topic.
300g for a Commander tag is not too much, regardless of color. If you take into account inflation from when Commander tags first became available, they should actually cost more than 300g now.
Seeing that ANet also is giving us advance warning of the price increase, I think it is more than fair.
Agree on the inflation point. Though with the amount of excess gold in play, even 300g doesn’t quite cut it in my book.
However I feel that the Blue should have been increased to 300g while the other colors be EARNED through some kind of color specific task. Making them all just 300g is not only a cheap cash grab (AGAIN) but it also plays into the hands of people with a lot of gold and/or cash to throw at them. It has no direct correlation with skill and/or experience at something.
Isn’t something like this already available?
Ascended Armor sets.
They are “craftable through PVE rewards and activities” and have unique skins.As I said before, there is nothing special about the Ascended Armors. They only require time to be crafted, nothing else. On top of that, most people were hugely displeased with their aesthetics and instantly reskinned them.
While I’m shocked to be siding with lordkrall in this, I feel I have to.
As for your argument concerning Ascended armor “only requiring time”. I believe that will be the stance taken on everything related to PvE. Granted if they were to introduce a PvE version of this prestige armor, those with more skill than others would likely get it faster. YET it would still be obtained by those with less skill that just kept at it. In PvE that is a given.
One should not be totally surprised that ArenaNet went with BLTC approved commander tags. While there are people that will have and use gold they’ve earned to acquire these tags – I believe the number of people that will purchase them with Gems alone or even Gem supplementation with their current funds will be high.
ArenaNet: Mo’ Money!!!
Judging by your choice of title and its relation to your topic, its pretty clear to me that you’re just trying to induce outrage from your fellow players. The 1% versus 99% argument doesn’t stand here. IF you want the armor set you have the same tools and freedom to go for it as the accused “1%” does.
Either work for it, which I suggest if you want it, or lock yourself in a padded room until your temper tantrum is over. Honestly buggers me when I hear people rage over not being handed something outright or when they’re told they have to do something in order to EARN it, whether or not its an activity they like.
I support the stance taken by the OP.
My two cents.
I don’t like legendary weapons at all. Period.
Please don’t make sweeping statements like “everyone loves” and/or “everyone hates”.
You want change you need to provide compelling reasons, if the reasons you provide can be shot down because the mechanics you want are already there, or because the extras that come with mounts would Not be worth the time, energy or resources… or are already there, then your reason is not compelling.
This!
So much of this!
Games with gear treadmill endgames NEED expacs, they wither and die without them.
GW2 doesn’t have that problem. Since they give us new content every 2 weeks – new zones, new dungeons, new stories, new maps, new features, it keeps us playing.
Sorry, Karizee, but it doesn’t keep everyone playing.
I really want a blocking function in this forum to prevent myself from permaban when I see a Vayne post.
Agreed. Wish there was a blocking function for the forums. Like in game it wouldn’t stop a poster from speaking but it would mean those that choose to don’t have to see the posts.
How silly.
Just because the OP’s life revolves around 2 games, either WoW or GW2, doesn’t mean that is the same for everyone.
“Night time” is also far too short when compared to the daylight “hours” in game.
There are fourty-eight pages of arguments against the horrid megaserver.
They aren’t listening – nor caring.
We who paid for this game do not matter.
You are making a bunch of rather massive errors here.
1: Not everyone on those 48 pages dislike it.
2: Not everyone comes up with valid arguments and mainly just say that it sucks.
3: Mostly the same people keep writing over and over and over and over and over again in the thread, rather than new people coming into the thread.
Lordkrall is correct. While I do believe the majority of this thread is against Megaservers, even if we removed the repeated posts from people like myself AND whiteknights like Lordkrall, I don’t have the energy to prove it. The only way to do so would be to sift through each page slowly and tally up each + and – post while keeping an eye out for multiple posts from the same individuals.
Considering just how massive this thread has become… I don’t know how anyone would have the time, energy, and patience to take on that task.
Or if it would even be worth it…
As I still believe this thread is just ArenaNet’s rug.
This topic has been debated way too much for 2 years now with the same comments going back and forth. Each time a new Mount thread goes up, once a week on average I believe, all anyone does is spew the same words from previous threads. So forgive me for not wanting to read through the entirety of this thread.
However.
IF anyone is willing to repeat and/or summarize any NEW comments as to why Mounts are needed in this game, I’d appreciate it. I’m only interested in answers for “We NEED mounts because ______________.” Wanting something alone will not make it happen. There are so many things that people want in this game, ideas ranging from interesting to insane, and the likelihood of them being picked above everything else for implementation is slim to none.
Again, as I’m being somewhat lazy by not reading the whole thread myself, I’m not expecting anyone to respond to this post. But I thank anyone in advance if they do.
Yup, it looks weak.
Not surprised they went with it though, because it is still normal to view females as weaker than males. From a pure physical standpoint, we are weaker. However if a woman were to make a career in a very physical profession – it would be safe to assume that they’d develop the necessary muscle mass and endurance to excel. Strangely, even in a fantasy world like GW2, when a female character is in a soldier class (Warrior/Guardian) – they can only just keep the blade from dragging behind them.Do I like it? Nope.
Do I expect ArenaNet to fix it? Nope.
Why? Because its trivial compared to so many other things that need to be addressed.Still I thank the OP for bringing the subject up.
Yet the female will never be as strong as the male. Simple biology.
In general, yes. However I know quite a few women that are stronger than most men. There will always be exceptions to every rule.
I think I’ve missed something…. but what makes people say that Legendary armor stats would be the same as Ascended armor stats?
Yup, it looks weak.
Not surprised they went with it though, because it is still normal to view females as weaker than males. From a pure physical standpoint, we are weaker. However if a woman were to make a career in a very physical profession – it would be safe to assume that they’d develop the necessary muscle mass and endurance to excel. Strangely, even in a fantasy world like GW2, when a female character is in a soldier class (Warrior/Guardian) – they can only just keep the blade from dragging behind them.
Do I like it? Nope.
Do I expect ArenaNet to fix it? Nope.
Why? Because its trivial compared to so many other things that need to be addressed.
Still I thank the OP for bringing the subject up.
Yet another reason I’m convinced that all we’ll be able to see will be blobs of light in the future, instead of character details. ‘Cause apparently in this game you can’t have Legendary anything without obnoxious special effects.
LOL!
Amusing that you point out how immature and unhelpful someone else is by demonstrating that very thing yourself. Well done.
We’ve had several threads started over this very topic over the last few months. Each ended with silence from ArenaNet. This one will be no different.
They know we want more communication from them. For whatever reason they’ve decided that they’re not going to communicate to the level that many of us want.
Is it right?
Kitten no.
But the sooner each of us accepts it as reality, the sooner we’ll stop expecting it and only being disappointed. Right now we’re just pounding on a brick wall and expecting it to turn into a human being with the ability to talk with us. Its not happening.
A surprise visit from a Dev would always be welcome, there is no doubt about that, but I’m no longer waiting for it. I will no longer expect it. I can’t afford to have any level of expectation of them, anymore.
ArenaNet has lowered the bar too far.