Guild Wars 2

Auesis.7301:

Only politician-tier dodging.

This deserves more.

Hierarchy of dodging levels
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[Anet]
[Politicians]
[The Flash]
[Deadpool]
[Ninja]
[Hitman]
[Normal Human]
[Gohan]
[Grade schooler playing dodgeball]
[Zombie]

Bread.7516:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

good point with people going around the duel ignore, but in pvp we do not get our race-specific skills.

charr wont get (battle cry) and Asura wont get (technobabble) and so on

I overlooked those.

Still I don;t think that justifies the cost.
And to add, it’s like a company putting out a competing product of what they already have since the differences are very minor.

Some people dont think so. I’m very specific on my stance in duels, but you have to consider both portions.

PVErs are going to be harassed by people who treat PVP as an ego trip.

PVP Duel supporters want to use some of this otherwise bare land for some spectacular duels. I’d love to see a good fight on southsun cove. That would be amazing. Nobody even hangs out at southsun cove. Not even for Karka.

However. I have to respect that people less mature than the people proposing this are going to give players hell. and given that some players from pve wont even set foot into the mists because of that, It seems unfair to just up-and-bring it to them.

Bread.7516:

Scrambles.2604:

Don’t worry guys i got this one!

If you don’t shell out for the gems to get your own custom games, you gotta put up with other people interrupting your 1v1s.

In custom pvp, you are limited only to the sPvP maps, where as in the open world you would get the crazy variety of awesome environments.

You can also kill each other pretty easily in sPvP, which forced you to have to sit through a respawn. Open world duels are a battle to 1 hp then it ends.

You cannot use your standard, PvE/WvW toon in sPvP, you don’t get all of your abilities, and you don’t get to use food. You also don’t get all of the same gear.

It’s not nearly as accessible as open world duels. You have to port to a different area. This is a big difference if you are just killing time before a dungeon/world event and you want to have a little spar in front of the instance portal. It would also bump you out of the whatever part of the megaserver you are on if you have to rejoin the area.

in sPvP you must play a lvl 80 with everything unlocked. For a new player this is overwhelming. Having the ability to test your limited skill set as you are leveling, against peers via open world duels is huge, IMO. In definitely lowers the barrier to entry for PvP, making it more accessible and easier to digest. The lack of this may contribute the animosity we see between the PvE and PvP crowds.

and, personally, i liked passing by the gates of ironforge in WoW, to stop and watch the people that would duel out there for a little bit. I wasn’t invested enough to port to another zone just to see it, but to be able to watch for a little bit as i was passing through was just another nice little touch that made WoW the success it is.

As stated by the other guy you can buy custom arenas with gold. Also the cost isnt even that high.

1v1 duels mainly use environments as LoS which are present in tpvp maps, you don;t really flank/high ground or use breaching strategies so open world environment only serves a minor aesthetic purpose.

Respawn is an issue? really?

Standard PvE STATS and food – does it matter (rhetorical)? tpvp is a level playing field with no cost. Also, you do get all your abilities, and now you even get to use the skin of your PVE armor. Play with skills not with stats.

Basically very minor things that are barely an excuse to cover the costs of implementing the system. Understand that they do not have a switch ready made that they can just put a localized hostility tag where it only detects between the 2 duelists. Also those annoying “duel me duel me duel me” people who don;t respect the “ignore duel requests”.

good point with people going around the duel ignore, but in pvp we do not get our race-specific skills.

charr wont get (battle cry) and Asura wont get (technobabble) and so on.

Most of the race-specific things are kind of inconvenient anyway, though, with the exception of [become the snow leopard], which is good…for…running away…

Scrambles.2604:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Scrambles.2604:

no worries, dude…this is just gunna go back and forth like this. I was attempting to explain my perspective, as an innocent bystander that would love to be able to duels in the open world.

I am caught in a difficult spot, because i am not a troll, yet i have to put up with the damage the trolls have apparently caused on the reputation of a simple feature like dueling. That and of course, a lot of players in GW2 bring a lot of emotional baggage with them from past games, where apparently their dueling experience was tarnished by a few bad apples.

If custom sPvP was sufficient, believe me, i would be there! But i have tried it and found it just as lacking as trying to bait enemies in WvW into no-kill sparring matches. Just like Colin Johanson said, it is an awkward round about way of trying to do things.

I have made an effort to propose open world duels in a way that would have a minimal impact on those who do not care for duels. But just like the extremists and trolls that have tarnished the neutral feature that is open world duels, the extremists against duels will not see any concessions that would have open world duels implemented, even if it were done in a way that would negate the impact open world duels would have on them.

As was stated before, if they did something with obsidian sanctum to let people duel there regardless of what world they were affiliated with, it would be prime choice.
I’d rather -not- tick off a whole lot of people just to get a mechanic that a few, relatively, would enjoy, though.

I’d like duels, but they have to be someplace where they both allow PVE functionality and freedom of opponent choice while still not ticking off those that just want to PVE unbothered by the mapchat more than they are now.

Why not just use the open world? I mean, it’s literally referred to as the “open world.” I couldn’t think of a more fitting place. There is so much space to not bother people.

In OS, you are limited to the OS map, not the entire would, and you still have the issue of zoning into another area. This ruins the casual nature of duels. Of course, the functionality of OS may change if duels were specifically enabled there, but as it stands, it’s still a free for all between servers, so while you are dueling your buddy from your server some jerk from another server could interrupt it.

Wooden potatoes said – “any chat in mapchat is better than no map chat” Basically, even if people are arguing, at least the zone isn’t dead!! I’ve played plenty of MMOs where zone chat is a ghost town. The point of map chat is for people to use it! How is that an argument against duels “oh man if people duel they might talk about it in chat jee golly!” If someone is annoying in map chat, like plenty of people are already, do the sensible thing and block them.

If two people are arguing on map chat and I block both of them, the Map chat is quiet.

At that point, bad map chat is worse than no map chat.

And while that is indeed the sensible thing to do, not many people have sense to block them, or have seen something so quote-unquote ‘offensive’ before deciding to block that they would find themselves compelled to complain about it elsewhere.

Without overextending, all I can say with certainty is that, unless it is placed someplace that does not affect the people not benefiting from it, it would be best to take no action regarding implementing dueling in open PVE.

Mojo Gris Gris.5941:

Chiming in with my opinion.
300g for an account bound tag is totally reasonable. 300g per color is totally ridiculous.

300g is better spent on siege and food than a dorito.

Scrambles.2604:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

200g is a lot of money, but you’re paying for a new server instance. It still appears that anet would like you to spend gems to create and maintain it though. dueling would hit that hard. There would be no reason to purchase a custom arena if all you wanted was to spar with your friends. this has absolutely nothing to do with me, it’s just an aside as to why this probably won’t happen.

While duels are for fun, not everyone sees them that way. Some see dueling as a means of prestige, and any perceived inequality that does not stem from skill is often seen as imbalanced. While some people may duel people when they have a clear disadvantage, others are so nitpicky that outside of a flat win, any room for loss other than mistakes on their end is immediately the cause of their loss. There will be many people that will duel for ego, and this portion of the community is the only portion that affect people other than themselves or their duel opponent. You may see it as fun, but you will also not be the one who thinks its an ego game and annoys map chat when he is proven wrong.

Regarding Open world PVP, hotjoin PVP serves this purpose as well, in particular the rooms dedicated to dueling. since PVP allows access to Traits, Runes, and Sigils, you can play around with these options to your hearts content in a room that does not have rank progression, in order to obtain some idea of what you’d prefer to use in terms of those traits/sigils/runes for PVE.

you can very easily learn and train with different builds in PVP. In hotjoin duel rooms this is actually what the players in that room are -there- for.
and even if someone -does- finish you, the respawn time is like 5 seconds… and you dont take armor damage.

no worries, dude…this is just gunna go back and forth like this. I was attempting to explain my perspective, as an innocent bystander that would love to be able to duels in the open world.

I am caught in a difficult spot, because i am not a troll, yet i have to put up with the damage the trolls have apparently caused on the reputation of a simple feature like dueling. That and of course, a lot of players in GW2 bring a lot of emotional baggage with them from past games, where apparently their dueling experience was tarnished by a few bad apples.

If custom sPvP was sufficient, believe me, i would be there! But i have tried it and found it just as lacking as trying to bait enemies in WvW into no-kill sparring matches. Just like Colin Johanson said, it is an awkward round about way of trying to do things.

I have made an effort to propose open world duels in a way that would have a minimal impact on those who do not care for duels. But just like the extremists and trolls that have tarnished the neutral feature that is open world duels, the extremists against duels will not see any concessions that would have open world duels implemented, even if it were done in a way that would negate the impact open world duels would have on them.

As was stated before, if they did something with obsidian sanctum to let people duel there regardless of what world they were affiliated with, it would be prime choice.
I’d rather -not- tick off a whole lot of people just to get a mechanic that a smaller number, relatively, would enjoy, though.

I’d like duels, but they have to be someplace where they both allow PVE functionality and freedom of opponent choice while still not ticking off those that just want to PVE unbothered by the mapchat more than they are now.

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

I soloed it on a Ranger. That seemed to work for me. Gotta love those pets, some times! =)

Oh! Really! I never noticed the arrow carts! Lol, silly girl!

Yep, there are arrow carts to clear the mordrem husks and wolves.

Anet decided to not go the “whack baddie with stick” route and it ended up depressing people. I don’t mean to sound insensitive; obviously the fact that everyone is solo and he doesnt have a party is an issue, but I’m surprised at how difficult a little subtlety made parts of this living story.

I didnt notice either, but I was tanky and had an ele with me, so it didn’t occur to us until after the fact.

so, @ OP. Get those Arrow Carts.

I’d be glad to help you through it if you’re on when I am.

Also, for that fort salma part, apparently there are arrow carts and you arent supposed to fight the husks directly.

Scrambles.2604:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Arenas now cost gold.
Racial abilities and WVW tools could cause balance issues that would make dueling “who is better geared” vs. “who is more skilled.”. (more than there already are, ofc.) Case in point? Perplexity Runes. Eternity.
There is no skill cap for PVP. Even level 2 players can succeed in SoloQ if they are skilled enough. Of course, duels with the allowances of wvw gear would scare these new players off.
Dueling to pvp is to down, not to death. Once opponent is downed, you back off and let them [bandage].
Point taken on the -kill time before a world boss event-. But that is a matter of convenience as opposed to one of utility.
Point taken on the maps, but there are quite a lot of them if your only aim is to duel.

Thanks for the rebuttal, Azure. I appreciate you being respectful in discussion

Arena’s already cost a ton of gold -_- or gems. My point is, it’s prohibitively expensive. I shouldn’t have to spend that much to duel a buddy.

Duels are for fun. Balance issues are irrelevant. If you don’t want to duel someone who is going to completely counter you or outright stomp you….then dont! That is what the decline option is for.

Skill cap – when i first bought this game, i entered sPvP and had absolutely no idea what was going on. I had no idea what i needed to build, much less the significance of the full trait points i had available to allocate. Having immediate access to a lvl 80 is great when you understand what to do with a lvl 80, but for anyone else, you are starting off way in the back of the learning curve.
Open world duels would fill the gap for leveling players, so when they do finally enter spvp they wont get completely wrecked. It would give you the ability to mess around with different traits and builds as you are leveling up so you get some experience with them in a pvp environment, as opposed to only using them in a PvE context.
TL;DR open duels lets you practice in an inconsequential context, where you wont bother other people that may actually care about pvp.

The respawn is a signifcant difference between sPvP and open world duels. It may be unlikely, but only in sPvP would there be a potential to be inconvenienced by respawns. It’s not a strong point but he asked for differences, not differences that are only tangible to people that don’t participate in duels anyway.

200g is a lot of money, but you’re paying for a new server instance. It still appears that anet would like you to spend gems to create and maintain it though. dueling would hit that hard. There would be no reason to purchase a custom arena if all you wanted was to spar with your friends. this has absolutely nothing to do with me, it’s just an aside as to why this probably won’t happen.

While duels are for fun, not everyone sees them that way. Some see dueling as a means of prestige, and any perceived inequality that does not stem from skill is often seen as imbalanced. While some people may duel people when they have a clear disadvantage, others are so nitpicky that outside of a flat win, any room for loss other than mistakes on their end is immediately the cause of their loss. There will be many people that will duel for ego, and this portion of the community is the only portion that affect people other than themselves or their duel opponent. You may see it as fun, but you will also not be the one who thinks its an ego game and annoys map chat when he is proven wrong.

Regarding Open world PVP, hotjoin PVP serves this purpose as well, in particular the rooms dedicated to dueling. since PVP allows access to Traits, Runes, and Sigils, you can play around with these options to your hearts content in a room that does not have rank progression, in order to obtain some idea of what you’d prefer to use in terms of those traits/sigils/runes for PVE.

you can very easily learn and train with different builds in PVP. In hotjoin duel rooms this is actually what the players in that room are -there- for.
and even if someone -does- finish you, the respawn time is like 5 seconds… and you dont take armor damage.

They’re testing the waters.

you weren’t sad with them until -just now-, no need to start.

Maybe we’ll see new scabbards in the future, but note that we just had [Chaos Greatsword] and a katana needs some kind of uniqueness to encourage people to go for that, especially if they just got new shines.

That being said, apparently the long, clumsy scabbard -vanishes- when you draw it, so its not perfect.

Know what, crazy notion here, but I’m available for duels if you are not off put by spvp custom arena dueling. I’ll put together an arena for it.

Just a side note.

Mail me.

Scrambles.2604:

Bread.7516:

What exactly can you not do in custom arena compared to open world dueling?

Don’t worry guys i got this one!

If you don’t shell out for the gems to get your own custom games, you gotta put up with other people interrupting your 1v1s.

In custom pvp, you are limited only to the sPvP maps, where as in the open world you would get the crazy variety of awesome environments.

You can also kill each other pretty easily in sPvP, which forced you to have to sit through a respawn. Open world duels are a battle to 1 hp then it ends.

You cannot use your standard, PvE/WvW toon in sPvP, you don’t get all of your abilities, and you don’t get to use food. You also don’t get all of the same gear.

It’s not nearly as accessible as open world duels. You have to port to a different area. This is a big difference if you are just killing time before a dungeon/world event and you want to have a little spar in front of the instance portal. It would also bump you out of the whatever part of the megaserver you are on if you have to rejoin the area.

and, personally, i liked passing by the gates of ironforge in WoW, to stop and watch the people that would duel out there for a little bit. I wasn’t invested enough to port to another zone just to see it, but to be able to watch for a little bit as i was passing through was just another nice little touch that made WoW the success it is.

Arenas now cost gold.
Racial abilities and WVW tools could cause balance issues that would make dueling “who is better geared” vs. “who is more skilled.”. (more than there already are, ofc.) Case in point? Perplexity Runes. Eternity.
There is no skill cap for PVP. Even level 2 players can succeed in SoloQ if they are skilled enough. Of course, duels with the allowances of wvw gear would scare these new players off.
Dueling to pvp is to down, not to death. Once opponent is downed, you back off and let them [bandage].
Point taken on the -kill time before a world boss event-. But that is a matter of convenience as opposed to one of utility.
Point taken on the maps, but there are quite a lot of them if your only aim is to duel.

Screen filling on a game otherwise artfully designed, where the designers want you to notice the time it took to put the landscape together

World bosses tend to have ~80 character models at a time swinging elaborate effects at its legs, mounts would tax that even further

Mounts would only be viable in PVE. for that matter~

We can port anywhere in the world for dirt cheap

[Swiftness]

EvilSardine.9635:

At the very least they should make it so dueling is allowed between server members in the OS sanctum arena area. The end.

If it’s contained, sure!

Just not on every map, every instance, everywhere.

Sanctum would be a -prime- place for it, actually.

RedStar.4218:

And I doubt the map chat is going stay silent with only that idiot insulting you (which you won’t see, unless of course you actually care what a random stranger on a game thinks of you base on your refusal to duel with him). He’s going to get reported and not too soon someone is simply going to tell him “If you want to prove you’re tough, what the hell are you doing in PvE ?”

At this point, the person in question is affecting everyone on the map at least briefly.

Which can be prevented by keeping the PVP in the mists
Not everyone goes by the “just ignore it if you do not like it” rule on mmos.

pigdog.9215:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

pigdog.9215:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

pigdog.9215:

Taygus.4571:

Scrambles.2604:

If you decline a duel and the player persists “cmon man are you scared?,” this is not dueling, this is harassment. If you have experienced this, or have a problem with this, your issue isn’t with dueling, you issue is with harassment.

The problem is, these 2 things are often connected, I know people who avoid games with open world dueling like the plague, simply because they’ve been harassed over it too many times.

It is easier for anet to just avoid this all together, and create a new duelling map/pvp arena, where people can have an armour/food buff advantage.
But anet should place in big letters on loading into this screen.

“this mode of PVP is NOT balanced, calls to balance it will not be adhered to.”

because you just know, the minute anet adds something like this, people will complain about the OP class and “x” food buff.

Its easier to create a carefree environment for casual and soft hearted people. But i enjoy gw2 not for its care bear environment but for it’s lore/combat. Not everyone is as soft hearted as your friends. Arenanet shouldn’t cater only for those care bear people, they should cater for everyone like in WoW. Example, In wow there are PvP servers or PvE servers. Why cant arenanet have atleast ONE server with dueling? If you get harrassed, mute then and report instead of crying about duels.

If you have not noticed, GW2 places heavy emphasis on their PVP content. There are more avenues for PVP than there are for PVE.

In fact, PvE only has ONE avenue, that is modular enough to allow people to not play content they do not wish to.

Again, I am far from soft hearted. I spend most of my time in the mists. I /laugh at thieves. But I can understand Taygus’ viewpoint.

It doesn’t sit right with me to encroach upon the PVE world when there are several options available to you for dueling, propose to pepper the instances with duels and the probable toxicity PVP can bring, and then ask them why they’re crying about it.

Well how i and others see it is that they enjoy playing games that are immersive, i think being able to duel someone in a game based around fighting things is perfectly reasonable and to not what it makes no sense. You go around killing things but are afraid of one person having a friendly battle with another? I treat mmorpgs not as a PvE or PvP one but as an online fantasy world that immerses me into the game. If someone insults me for being a noob and runs off it makes no sense being unable to challenge them to a duel? If im traveling with a friend and we want to test our skills in the wild because its imersive i see no problem in that. I dont understand how people can think duels ruin PvE it adds to immersion. No matter what there is, or where you go, people are toxic. Remove World bosses if you are scared of toxic people.

you seem to be missing [read: ignoring] the point.

You may not see a problem, but the people who will be affected by your proposition do, and you should pay attention to what they’re saying.

There is certainly the option for you to duel, it just exists in a separate avenue.

You not wanting to use that avenue is a separate problem entirely, but the fact of the matter is the players on the PVE side don’t want to see this happen because of the avenues to harassment it opens on a game with a currently -very- peaceful PVE.

World bosses have been covered already. the ones that cause wipes require pre-planning, and the pre-planning happens in a separate instance.

Just like fractals.
Just like dungeons.
And just like duels.

The only point made is that PvPers want duels in the open world, the opposition’s point is that it would increase the amount of toxicity by people acting superior if another doesnt want to duel. World bosses create more of a toxic behaviour but it will not be removed because PvErs tolerate it. They just mute and report the person, which is what anyone can do for harrasing duelers. There is no logic to say one sides wants is irrelevant because it affects my side in a way i can easily solve ( reporting/ignoring ).

I see that you’re going to just pass over what I said about World bosses.

Never said it was irrelevant.

You can duel as much as you want.

in the mists.

Have fun.

P.S. Dueling is not a forgotten option, It was left out by choice. For…obvious reasons.

pigdog.9215:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

pigdog.9215:

Taygus.4571:

Scrambles.2604:

If you decline a duel and the player persists “cmon man are you scared?,” this is not dueling, this is harassment. If you have experienced this, or have a problem with this, your issue isn’t with dueling, you issue is with harassment.

The problem is, these 2 things are often connected, I know people who avoid games with open world dueling like the plague, simply because they’ve been harassed over it too many times.

It is easier for anet to just avoid this all together, and create a new duelling map/pvp arena, where people can have an armour/food buff advantage.
But anet should place in big letters on loading into this screen.

“this mode of PVP is NOT balanced, calls to balance it will not be adhered to.”

because you just know, the minute anet adds something like this, people will complain about the OP class and “x” food buff.

Its easier to create a carefree environment for casual and soft hearted people. But i enjoy gw2 not for its care bear environment but for it’s lore/combat. Not everyone is as soft hearted as your friends. Arenanet shouldn’t cater only for those care bear people, they should cater for everyone like in WoW. Example, In wow there are PvP servers or PvE servers. Why cant arenanet have atleast ONE server with dueling? If you get harrassed, mute then and report instead of crying about duels.

If you have not noticed, GW2 places heavy emphasis on their PVP content. There are more avenues for PVP than there are for PVE.

In fact, PvE only has ONE avenue, that is modular enough to allow people to not play content they do not wish to.

Again, I am far from soft hearted. I spend most of my time in the mists. I /laugh at thieves. But I can understand Taygus’ viewpoint.

It doesn’t sit right with me to encroach upon the PVE world when there are several options available to you for dueling, propose to pepper the instances with duels and the probable toxicity PVP can bring, and then ask them why they’re crying about it.

Well how i and others see it is that they enjoy playing games that are immersive, i think being able to duel someone in a game based around fighting things is perfectly reasonable and to not what it makes no sense. You go around killing things but are afraid of one person having a friendly battle with another? I treat mmorpgs not as a PvE or PvP one but as an online fantasy world that immerses me into the game. If someone insults me for being a noob and runs off it makes no sense being unable to challenge them to a duel? If im traveling with a friend and we want to test our skills in the wild because its imersive i see no problem in that. I dont understand how people can think duels ruin PvE it adds to immersion. No matter what there is, or where you go, people are toxic. Remove World bosses if you are scared of toxic people.

you seem to be missing [read: ignoring] the point.

You may not see a problem, but the people who will be affected by your proposition do, and you should pay attention to what they’re saying.

There is certainly the option for you to duel, it just exists in a separate avenue.

You not wanting to use that avenue is a separate problem entirely, but the fact of the matter is the players on the PVE side don’t want to see this happen because of the avenues to harassment it opens on a game with a currently -very- peaceful PVE.

World bosses have been covered already. the ones that cause wipes require pre-planning, and the pre-planning happens in a separate instance.

Just like fractals.
Just like dungeons.
And just like duels.

pigdog.9215:

Taygus.4571:

Scrambles.2604:

If you decline a duel and the player persists “cmon man are you scared?,” this is not dueling, this is harassment. If you have experienced this, or have a problem with this, your issue isn’t with dueling, you issue is with harassment.

The problem is, these 2 things are often connected, I know people who avoid games with open world dueling like the plague, simply because they’ve been harassed over it too many times.

It is easier for anet to just avoid this all together, and create a new duelling map/pvp arena, where people can have an armour/food buff advantage.
But anet should place in big letters on loading into this screen.

“this mode of PVP is NOT balanced, calls to balance it will not be adhered to.”

because you just know, the minute anet adds something like this, people will complain about the OP class and “x” food buff.

Its easier to create a carefree environment for casual and soft hearted people. But i enjoy gw2 not for its care bear environment but for it’s lore/combat. Not everyone is as soft hearted as your friends. Arenanet shouldn’t cater only for those care bear people, they should cater for everyone like in WoW. Example, In wow there are PvP servers or PvE servers. Why cant arenanet have atleast ONE server with dueling? If you get harrassed, mute then and report instead of crying about duels.

If you have not noticed, GW2 places heavy emphasis on their PVP content. There are more avenues for PVP than there are for PVE.

In fact, PvE only has ONE avenue, that is modular enough to allow people to not play content they do not wish to.

Again, I am far from soft hearted. I spend most of my time in the mists. I /laugh at thieves. But I can understand Taygus’ viewpoint.

It doesn’t sit right with me to encroach upon the PVE world when there are several options available to you for dueling, propose to pepper the world with duels and the probable toxicity PVP can bring, and then ask them why they’re crying about it.

@ regarding world bosses, they scale with intensity. the -difficult- bosses require dungeonlike preparation, and those are the ones that garner toxic players.

Shadow Behemoth and the other lower level bosses don’t cause wipes, and even those bosses can be avoided.

pigdog.9215:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

pigdog.9215:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Scrambles.2604:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

@ Vayne: Im sorry but if you READ what i said, i did specifically say duel and not “battle to the death”. If you’ve ever played WoW when you duel no one dies, they just get down to 1hp and the duel is over, there is no killing lol. Most of the guild wars 2 community is pretty nice. The chances of 2 people dueling that screws your event over and not helping but laughing at you is so small that its not even worth mentioning. Please if you don’t want dueling give a good reason why, hardly anyone is out to laugh at you because you asked for help.

I’ve been to PvP…I’ve seen some of the community there. Most of the PvE community is nice. I suspect it’ll lower that tone of dueling is introduced.

This mentality is why guild wars 2 PvP will never be a big e-sport like WoW or other MMORPGS. It makes no sense to remove a function from the game because people might be sour and be rude, if anyone is rude just mute them or report. Ive been to OS (dueling capital ) a lot and most people there arent rude, so how about you stop assuming the PvP community is toxic because of your bad experiences.

Not implementing something is completely different than removing it. They didn’t implement it. There are places for people to beat each other senseless. Let there be more place. But I don’t really want to be involved in it or deal with the consequences where I play.

And you know, I could be wrong. Maybe everyone who duels is lovely and wonderful and happy and smiling. But you know, I’d rather not take that chance.

You have to plan for the worse. Other games (cough wildstar) have solved these problems. Implement proper reporting/blocking tools, give players the power to block duel requests entirely, and, if it’s still THAT big an issue, create a cooldown on the amount of duel requests you can submit for a period of time.

Or the GW2 solution, bury your head in the sand and scream “No duels! They will ruin our pristine, non-toxic environment, where you get berated in map chat for not knowing events, booted from dungeons from being the wrong class, and called out in game for playing bad while using legendaries—-yes dueling would ruin this game!”

More like “If you want to duel, press a button and/or join a room.”

Just because toxic players already exist does not mean it would be okay to add more.

Then why did they add fractals? People are toxic in that because of resistance rating, but it was added for PvErs. Well Duels are wanted for PvPers, it makes no sense to not add wanted features because people are CAPABLE of being toxic.

Fractals are instances.

Okay then, world bosses? Teq, the worm? people can be toxic because of wipes. It’s open world.

Difficult world bosses exist in high level areas only, and the players organize onto a single map to even attempt said bosses. In that case, it is about as instanced as a dungeon.

As vayne stated, as well, apparently.

Scrambles.2604:

Not many people are really against dueling. They are against toxicity, player harassment, and generally being bothered. This is completely reasonable, and i would totally include myself in this camp.

An open world duel happens when someone sends you a request to duel, and you either accept or decline. That is where the open world duel starts and ends.

Anything that happens beyond this has officially left the purview of open world duels and is classified as “harassment.”

If you decline a duel and the player persists “cmon man are you scared?,” this is not dueling, this is harassment. If you have experienced this, or have a problem with this, your issue isn’t with dueling, you issue is with harassment.

This is my stance. I am not against people sparring in the mountains. Personally I would be entertained.

My concern is for the players that, at this moment, have complete control over how competitive they would like to be. Adding duels to the open world would open avenues for this kind of harassment. Not everyone is happy and smiles when it comes to dueling(or even respectful), the PVP community is a shining example of this.

I’d prefer to keep that in an instance. If I have an itch to spar, I can certainly scratch it.

pigdog.9215:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Scrambles.2604:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

@ Vayne: Im sorry but if you READ what i said, i did specifically say duel and not “battle to the death”. If you’ve ever played WoW when you duel no one dies, they just get down to 1hp and the duel is over, there is no killing lol. Most of the guild wars 2 community is pretty nice. The chances of 2 people dueling that screws your event over and not helping but laughing at you is so small that its not even worth mentioning. Please if you don’t want dueling give a good reason why, hardly anyone is out to laugh at you because you asked for help.

I’ve been to PvP…I’ve seen some of the community there. Most of the PvE community is nice. I suspect it’ll lower that tone of dueling is introduced.

This mentality is why guild wars 2 PvP will never be a big e-sport like WoW or other MMORPGS. It makes no sense to remove a function from the game because people might be sour and be rude, if anyone is rude just mute them or report. Ive been to OS (dueling capital ) a lot and most people there arent rude, so how about you stop assuming the PvP community is toxic because of your bad experiences.

Not implementing something is completely different than removing it. They didn’t implement it. There are places for people to beat each other senseless. Let there be more place. But I don’t really want to be involved in it or deal with the consequences where I play.

And you know, I could be wrong. Maybe everyone who duels is lovely and wonderful and happy and smiling. But you know, I’d rather not take that chance.

You have to plan for the worse. Other games (cough wildstar) have solved these problems. Implement proper reporting/blocking tools, give players the power to block duel requests entirely, and, if it’s still THAT big an issue, create a cooldown on the amount of duel requests you can submit for a period of time.

Or the GW2 solution, bury your head in the sand and scream “No duels! They will ruin our pristine, non-toxic environment, where you get berated in map chat for not knowing events, booted from dungeons from being the wrong class, and called out in game for playing bad while using legendaries—-yes dueling would ruin this game!”

More like “If you want to duel, press a button and/or join a room.”

Just because toxic players already exist does not mean it would be okay to add more.

Then why did they add fractals? People are toxic in that because of resistance rating, but it was added for PvErs. Well Duels are wanted for PvPers, it makes no sense to not add wanted features because people are CAPABLE of being toxic.

Fractals are instances. PVErs can ignore them if they so choose.

“custom sPvP sucks! It’s a great solution for someone who has no interest in dueling, but if you actually try it, it is a poor substitute.

I want to duel with my WvW build (food included), against my guildies and friends on my server. Not in OS and not in custom sPvP."

I try and play it constantly when I want a duel, and I enjoy it because it allows you to focus on skill and build. Food just enhances that for wvw.

I don’t think food was meant to be a contributing factor for 1v1 duels.

I’d like to remind you guys that you are proposing forcing a game aspect on people when there are dedicated avenues for you to do what you want, for the sole purpose of being able to use your PVE build, since every other aspect is covered by Spvp and custom arenas.

Scrambles.2604:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

@ Vayne: Im sorry but if you READ what i said, i did specifically say duel and not “battle to the death”. If you’ve ever played WoW when you duel no one dies, they just get down to 1hp and the duel is over, there is no killing lol. Most of the guild wars 2 community is pretty nice. The chances of 2 people dueling that screws your event over and not helping but laughing at you is so small that its not even worth mentioning. Please if you don’t want dueling give a good reason why, hardly anyone is out to laugh at you because you asked for help.

I’ve been to PvP…I’ve seen some of the community there. Most of the PvE community is nice. I suspect it’ll lower that tone of dueling is introduced.

This mentality is why guild wars 2 PvP will never be a big e-sport like WoW or other MMORPGS. It makes no sense to remove a function from the game because people might be sour and be rude, if anyone is rude just mute them or report. Ive been to OS (dueling capital ) a lot and most people there arent rude, so how about you stop assuming the PvP community is toxic because of your bad experiences.

Not implementing something is completely different than removing it. They didn’t implement it. There are places for people to beat each other senseless. Let there be more place. But I don’t really want to be involved in it or deal with the consequences where I play.

And you know, I could be wrong. Maybe everyone who duels is lovely and wonderful and happy and smiling. But you know, I’d rather not take that chance.

You have to plan for the worse. Other games (cough wildstar) have solved these problems. Implement proper reporting/blocking tools, give players the power to block duel requests entirely, and, if it’s still THAT big an issue, create a cooldown on the amount of duel requests you can submit for a period of time.

Or the GW2 solution, bury your head in the sand and scream “No duels! They will ruin our pristine, non-toxic environment, where you get berated in map chat for not knowing events, booted from dungeons from being the wrong class, and called out in game for playing bad while using legendaries—-yes dueling would ruin this game!”

More like “If you want to duel, press a button and/or join a room.”

Duels already exist. You just can’t show them to people trying to PVE. If they want to see, they can easily spectate you.

Just because toxic players already exist does not mean it would be okay to add more.

Again, dueler. very easy for me to get barbarian in the mists. Not so much in PVE. I like it that way.

pigdog.9215:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

pigdog.9215:

I hope you understand bragging does increase competitiveness, do you not know that?

If people brag then pwn them and brag back?

Hmmm.

I’m far from advocating peace and love and joy and hugs, but the very least I can do is not shove that into an aspect of the game where teamwork is advocated.

The attitude you implied in your last post is exactly what needs to be kept out of PVE. In PVP it is muted a little because those same people you have an issue with could be on your team in the next SoloQ, and that is exactly how it should stay.

Map Chat is borderline not-toxic right now. Let’s keep it that way, shall we?

You cannot blame duels for toxic people, that logic is so flawed. People can be toxic because of dungeoning, are you going to remove dungeons? If people are toxic in map chat because of duels people will think badly of them and mute. If you view on the community is that low that duels = community unable to control their temper, then blame the community and not the function to duel.

As I noted above. I do not blame duels for toxicity.

I believe that allowing duels in the PVE aspect will expose players to toxicity that is currently at a very comfortable low with PVP having its own dedicated section.

I’m a dueler myself. In SoloQ, I’m probably more aggressive than I should be.

In PVE, I’m almost a completely different person. I’d rather not take the aggro from PVP and put it in PVE just so people can duel in open world.

I have no reason to blame a mechanic for everything, but it’s hard to ignore that player-kills draw more aggro/toxicity than mob kills. I’d rather things not spill over, and I’d rather people looking to enjoy the open world not have duel-bravado on their “list of things to ignore” if it can be helped.

pigdog.9215:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

pigdog.9215:

I hope you understand bragging does increase competitiveness, do you not know that?

If people brag then pwn them and brag back?

Hmmm.

Well mentally the original bragger will realize that there will always be someone better than them and that its better not to brag because others will brag back. This being said bragging still does increase competitiveness, if there’s an kitten who is bragging someone else have motivation to get better and pwn them.

only if they have the state of mind to do so, and only if the current victor allows a rematch.

there’s a whole lot of branches of toxicity-increases to map chat that are simply avoided by doing all pvp in the mists.

Examples:

• Loser has fragile pride and cannot take heckling.
• Winner is a coward and refuses to allow rematch.
• Winner accuses loser of hacking.
• Winner wins due to luck, lag or some external element, and advocates his win when nobody wants to hear it.

I am not -at all- saying that duelers are rude. I am one myself. I am just making note that this would provide the option for the -actually- rude ones to cause some annoyance that virtually does not exist right now.

pigdog.9215:

I hope you understand bragging does increase competitiveness, do you not know that?

If people brag then pwn them and brag back?

Hmmm.

I’m far from advocating peace and love and joy and hugs, but the very least I can do is not shove that into an aspect of the game where teamwork is advocated.

The attitude you implied in your last post is exactly what needs to be kept out of PVE. In PVP it is muted a little because those same people you have an issue with could be on your team in the next SoloQ, and that is exactly how it should stay.

Map Chat is borderline not-toxic right now. Let’s keep it that way, shall we?

BlueZone.4236:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

BlueZone.4236:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Vayne.8563:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Labjax.2465:

Vayne.8563:

Okay reality check. The people answering this interview are the end game guy and a WvW guy. They probably expected the interview to be about that.

These are the wrong guys for these specific questions. They might not even HAVE the answers and they tried to answer as best they could.

Well right. That’s my point. The whole interview screams, “We are way out of our comfort zone here. Halp.”

Now I feel bad for them, because the whole thing could have easily been them just plopped/ pseudo-strongarmed into an interview and then squirming through it without leaking data that they shouldn’t be.

My viewpoint depends on if they willingly decided to take a genuine shot at that interview and that was the result of careful preparation, or if it was more along the lines of them just doing it because the players say they don’t talk enough.

if the former, lol.

If the latter, aw… poor guys.

Well, if you were going to answer those questions, would you be sending your WvW lead and your end game specialist? Because those questions weren’t really focused on that.

Fish not only out of water, but buried in sand; to be sure.

Nah, it doesn’t matter who gives the answers, the response would largely be the same.

Mind presenting evidence of this ever happening for Guild Wars 2?

“Nothing’s off the table”

Nice technique. Isn’t this from that same interview though?

There have been several interviews that were much more active than this one.

I’m hoping these newer ones are just due to people forced to talk about areas they do not work in.

Scrambles.2604:

Vayne.8563:

Scrambles.2604:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Dusty Moon.4382:

Slcrisis.6930:

+1 for dueling as always. wishful thinking though, I highly doubt they’ll implement it.

Again for the people who don’t want to duel, put in an option to ignore requests, simples. Doesn’t mean it should be cut out of the game completely just because some people would rather not duel their friends. That’s just silly.

Dueling is PvP and A.Net said their system design for the PvE side WAS NOT DESIGNED for any type of PvP.

That is why there are arenas in the sPvP area.

That isnt going to stop people from asking for it, arena net should just implement dueling in so people stop asking for it. Just because some people are scared that someone will laugh at their poor dueling performance it doesnt mean people don’t want it lol.

Nope Anet shouldn’t add things just because people ask for it. They should only add if it if it fits their vision for the game. My guess is that it doesn’t.

Then i guess their vision of the game doesnt include a large PVP scene l0l

It includes, like Guild Wars 1, a scene where PvP and PvE are separate entities that don’t really interact with each other. There was very little interaction between PvP and PvE in Guild Wars 1 and that was often considered a PvP-centric game.

That doesnt change the fact that dueling helps improve a pvp community, if you can go to an area where people randomly duel and you watch it’s interesting. They should have added a system where there is an area in the mists where you can duel instead of making it all instanced. Guild wars 2 is no way a PvP-centric game tho? Also guild wars 1 was no where near as pvp centric as WoW and look at how big WoW’s pvp scene is still now compared to gw1s.

So let them have arenas for dueling away from the open world. I never had a problem with that.

Like i said an area where people are dueling each other creates competitiveness, People will not randomly stumble upon people dueling and watch if its in a closed off area. Im just saying Guild wars 2 will never be competitive in the PvP scene if they arent creating an atmosphere where people can enjoy being competitive. If 2 people duel in a forrest who else knows besides them? no one, but if they duel outside a city everyone who goes past can watch the entertainment. Like i said just look at how popular WoW’s PvP is, it wouldn’t be that popular if they didn’t give players opportunities to be competitive ( dueling ).

So people can just start dueling in the middle of an event they’re not participating in and scale it up, making it harder for a person to do because they want to duel there? I don’t think that’s a good idea.

Two people wont effect a group event so significantly that it is the difference between win or loss. If two extra people not participating causes an event to fail, it was failed already. There are AFKers at every event already.

You gotta do better than that, Vayne

There aren’t AFKers at every event, unless you happen to be talking about meta events…but I’m not. Some of us actually play in the open world. Sometimes I come across an event and I’m the only one there.

Sometimes that event involves, say, protecting buildings from attacking enemies. It’s hard enough solo, running back and forth with the number of people who spawn. If two people were dueling there (or AFK there for that matter), the number of enemies would at least double. There’s no way in hell I could cope with that situation. There are many events I could think of that that would be a problem with.

I will indulge your oddly specific, fantasy situation.

“excuse me guys, could you duel away from this event, please? Thanks! I appreciate you moving away so i could finish this event! Wait? Are you serious? You guys will stop dueling to help me with the event? That is so generous! …Wah? A new peice of mail? You guys ALSO sent me 100g!? You guys rock! I was wrong about dueling all along!”

Is paid
“I was wrong about dueling”

BlueZone.4236:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Vayne.8563:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Labjax.2465:

Vayne.8563:

Okay reality check. The people answering this interview are the end game guy and a WvW guy. They probably expected the interview to be about that.

These are the wrong guys for these specific questions. They might not even HAVE the answers and they tried to answer as best they could.

Well right. That’s my point. The whole interview screams, “We are way out of our comfort zone here. Halp.”

Now I feel bad for them, because the whole thing could have easily been them just plopped/ pseudo-strongarmed into an interview and then squirming through it without leaking data that they shouldn’t be.

My viewpoint depends on if they willingly decided to take a genuine shot at that interview and that was the result of careful preparation, or if it was more along the lines of them just doing it because the players say they don’t talk enough.

if the former, lol.

If the latter, aw… poor guys.

Well, if you were going to answer those questions, would you be sending your WvW lead and your end game specialist? Because those questions weren’t really focused on that.

Fish not only out of water, but buried in sand; to be sure.

Nah, it doesn’t matter who gives the answers, the response would largely be the same.

Mind presenting evidence of this ever happening for Guild Wars 2?

I like being able to log in and not get harassed by people who want to duel unless I go to a duel room

In a game that promotes cooperation and unity on the foundation of its mechanics for PVE, the last thing many players want to see is PVP tossed into their experience.

Especially if they interfere with dynamic events/world bosses.

If you want to duel, it takes you 2 minutes to find one. There’s a whole instance dedicated to small scale PVP, and two for Large Scale PVP. And new players are constantly harassed by NPCs advertising the mists, so it is very hard for someone to not be aware of how PVP works unless they are genuinely not interested.

Which probably wouldn’t be remedied by shoving it in their face.

Vayne.8563:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Labjax.2465:

Vayne.8563:

Okay reality check. The people answering this interview are the end game guy and a WvW guy. They probably expected the interview to be about that.

These are the wrong guys for these specific questions. They might not even HAVE the answers and they tried to answer as best they could.

Well right. That’s my point. The whole interview screams, “We are way out of our comfort zone here. Halp.”

Now I feel bad for them, because the whole thing could have easily been them just plopped/ pseudo-strongarmed into an interview and then squirming through it without leaking data that they shouldn’t be.

My viewpoint depends on if they willingly decided to take a genuine shot at that interview and that was the result of careful preparation, or if it was more along the lines of them just doing it because the players say they don’t talk enough.

if the former, lol.

If the latter, aw… poor guys.

Well, if you were going to answer those questions, would you be sending your WvW lead and your end game specialist? Because those questions weren’t really focused on that.

Fish not only out of water, but buried in sand; to be sure.

Labjax.2465:

Vayne.8563:

Okay reality check. The people answering this interview are the end game guy and a WvW guy. They probably expected the interview to be about that.

These are the wrong guys for these specific questions. They might not even HAVE the answers and they tried to answer as best they could.

Well right. That’s my point. The whole interview screams, “We are way out of our comfort zone here. Halp.”

Now I feel bad for them, because the whole thing could have easily been them just plopped/ pseudo-strongarmed into an interview and then squirming through it without leaking data that they shouldn’t be.

My viewpoint depends on if they willingly decided to take a genuine shot at that interview and that was the result of careful preparation, or if it was more along the lines of them just doing it because the players say they don’t talk enough/they otherwise felt compelled to when they didn’t actually want to.

if the former, lol.

If the latter, aw… poor guys.

I cannot see any cons besides other parts of the game not getting enough attention-

That is a perfectly good reason, sir.

We already have home instances that we can add nodes to, and invite people to.

They should be focusing on the depth and balance of the game and its professions at this time. Having a game so largely pushed to be competitive that gets sparing balance updates and then unveiling that they were working on player housing would be a silly blunder on their part.

Make sure people have plenty to do. When they have a long chore list and are almost to the point of bemoaning not seeing the end of it, then, maybe , some thought can be given to housing.

We already have a home instance though.

What dreadful business < SAB.

Mordremoth < SAB.

Mawdrey < SAB.

Something completely different? WVW.

The entire interview was Anet refusing to say anything of major significance at all.

I loved the transcript and how every paragraph was about absolutely nothing

He blew up.

I just keep the shards I have in the event I want to make a non zerker backpiece.

Here’s one for English.

http://www.guildmag.com/command-tag-gamescom-2014/

Ask and ye shall be sent to Grenth

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2djnv8/interview_with_devon_carver_commander_tag_will_be/

Gaag.6538:

all I want to point out is that , chaos weapons are an step in the right direction, personally I want to see more stuff from GW1 brought into GW2, and the chaos weapons set make me feel hopeful.

that being said, I think this is one of those rare occasions where “less” is “more”. most of the chaos weapons look like a bottle of cold water reflecting light, and that effect seems rather out of place. the original chaos weapon (it was just the axe) literally looked like a freaking lightsaber…but axe version…lightaxe …lighthatchet.

anywho , the GW1’s version looked rather slick yet subtle , but it looked great when in action, like no other weapon in the game, that was part of it appeal. the GW2’s iteration just looks like yet another very overdone shinny thing.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Chaos_Axe
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Chaos_Axe_Skin

I have to admit it is a worrisome trend, that some weapons are not translating quite well when being ported from GW1, like the mammoth axe doesnt look as cool as it used to for some reason.

I just hope dev can use this information when bringing back more stuff from GW1 into GW2, and Im pretty sure Im not the only who would like to see more items making a come back.

They look like a lightsaber when held in game.

I didn’t like them at first, but when seen in game the glassy effect comes off really well, and gives it some substance. See below. They appear cold and glassy underground, but in the light-

If he wants to keep spoonfeeding his HP bar to you by standing in front of your keep, you should let him. your spawn waypoint is less than 20 seconds away with swiftness.

Check the “Post your build” section under the class thread for the class you are interested in.

RedStar.4218:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

I don’t know about anyone else, but seeing a commander with a vanity tag will lead me to question why he did not just spend that gold on siege and food.

Do you have poor commanders ? It’s so common to see a commander run around with a legendary.

Nothing wrong with a legendary wielding commander. But a legendary is something “for them.”

A dorito is “hey, come rally at my position.” It has no use other than that. Spending 300g on that and then not using superior siege for time-critical flips will make me scratch my head.

Roe.3679:

coglin.1867:

What elementalist would love to have or not, is not my point. My point is whether or not you, or others feel skills skills that force immobility to use them, should be in a game designed around mobile and active combat. Do not misinterpret my comparison for contrast, as a class comparison. For that matter, Engineers have access to Magnetic Aura as well, so you can make the comparison with in the profession itself.

mobile hundred blades

Grenth help us.

But since you said no class comparison, lets focus on the shield.

I think the issue with the mobility on the shield is that the release is a blast finisher in addition to its initial use in reflecting projectiles, which would allow players to move into line of sight of an arcing projectile and ferry it back, with the added benefits of activating any fields they may walk over.

Mobile Stealth/knockback bombs every 30 seconds sounds…taxing.

Elementalist if you PVP / WVW / PVE Equally.

Mesmer if you PVP more than you PVE/WvW. [Note: If you hate thieves, go Elementalist. A good thief vs. A good mesmer = A good warrior vs. a bad Ranger.]

Necro if you PVE/WvW more than you PVP, PVP but like skyhammer, or can tolerate melting under focus with the tradeoff of being magnificent in support roles/when you are not focus.

tom.7468:

The nerf to HB was totally uncalled for now i have twilight on him for nothing.

What…?

An entire legendary depended on 5% damage?

The burst skill cleaves now are you kitten me

My opinion of skyhammer has changed.

After 1v1ing a Necromancer in the cannon room and beating her after 6 attempts to fear me off of the cliff, I now play Skyhammer for the sole purpose of disappointing people with CC in the Hammer room.

I sincerely hope all of the filler words in that interview were not due to anticipating impending disappointment, but more from the attempts of trying to keep a straight face because of its upcoming rerelease.

wishful thinking, I know, but…

alcopaul.2156:

Solomon Darkfury.3729:

My two cents…

I had a thief backstab me for 2700… A warrior hundred blade me for 1200… normally I just laugh and walk away…

Post gear and build please.

Looks like Apothecary and something else. maybe dire/rabid.

Def/Tactics/Discipline Traits.

Could probably be at max bloodlust/fed.

I don’t know about anyone else, but seeing a commander with a vanity tag will lead me to question why he did not just spend that gold on siege and food.

pretty sure people can differentiate between blue tags based on where they are on the map, so if the tags actually -do- have a paywall, all jokes aside, it could have a little backlash on the commander, especially if they dont have a truckload of siege or food to begin with.

A dorito is not something “for you”. It is to help people locate events or movements they would otherwise miss.

Anet, It’s okay to have an “and now, something completely different” moment.

We already do that with WVW and jumping puzzles, are you kitten me

pls box.

box

pls

Ugh…

Just re-enable it and maybe quintuple the token requirement for the SAB prizes so the market for those items doesn’t completely nosedive.

I miss platforms..

Naus the Gobbo.5172:

How do you know that it’s not enough to keep people playing, or come back?

Do you have a pie-chart where you asked every person that has bought the game, or is this a case of “I don’t like this, therefore no one does”?

I am perfectly happy with the current quantity and quality of the content they produce.
And it’s getting better and better.

This.

Ensure you speak for the majority instead of just for yourself. A large portion of people that come to the forums are already jaded/bored with what’s happening in game, while the others are..

yknow..

playing.