thief mobility is not the problem. thieves are squishy, the mobility is basically a class survival mechanic. their unlimited in-combat restealthing could use a change, but thats a GW2 design flaw and any limits on incombat stealth should come with a base survivability increase for thieves (eg more HP).
warrior mobility is a huge problem and deserves a few threads of its own. dogged march, holebrek runes and lemongrass is basically unkiteable and is arguably the most common wvw setup. add that in with all the gap closers available as both weapon and utility skills.
why is the class that has the most health, the most armor, the easiest access to huge sustain, and has the most (or nearly the most) damage simply because unlike everyone else, they can afford to gear for it…. why is that class also the class that is the most impervious to being kited? if any class should have poor mobility, should it not be the illiterate overweight lumbering lards with their giant plate mail and hammers?
there is literally no sacrifice in playing a warrior. big damage, big survivability, big sustain, big mobility, stability, CC, they even gave you very reliable condition removal. the only advantage other players have against warriors is the breathtaking amount of autism exhibited by so many players of the warrior profession.
Easy now. not every warrior is an “illiterate, overweight lumbering lard.”
Elementalists easily have as much sustain as Warriors if geared properly.
Thieves, Rangers, and Mesmers all have stealths that break target locks.
While warriors do have decent sustain and high damage, they are also the most visible of all of the classes except Guardian. They are mobile, but very straightforward, and as any other class, once you lock a warrior you will know exactly where they are unless they die or escape.
In a combat oriented game, that is a significant disadvantage. If they were perpetually visible AND melted or were extremely susceptible to anything surpassing clever rotations or focus, then they would be useless. their meatiness is their sole advantage. you cannot walk up to them and hammer away.
They can. That’s their job. your job is to make that impossible for them. You lose if they get in close or draw line of sight for too long.
Knowing when to disengage is also a combat tactic. Because of this, their mobility is fine as is. They have two weapons, borderline three, that make them crazy fast. the others dont do a thing for their speediness. It’s a bit unreasonable to think they are too fast when you can see which way they are running, when thieves and mesmers can vanish outright, rangers also to a lesser extent, with impunity.
I play warrior. A good thief downs me. A bad one melts. One that makes mistakes gets injured.
A good mesmer, to me, is untouchable. A bad one melts. Again, one that makes mistakes gets injured.
I fought a good ranger yesterday. She pushed me back when I was going to savage leap, and binding roots’d me when a teammate came near, enough for a combo setup.
I melted.
I fought another ranger later on that sat on steps and auto attacked. I made his life hell.
Good elementalists sustain against me practically for hours.
I have nothing against those classes, but it seems that just because people play warrior and happen to win because it has the most simple playstyle doesn’t mean it is overpowered.
It just means that killing one requires more forethought.
In the case of thieves, it should be enough argument that a good thief in a 1v1 will -never- down, and a good thief will never allow 2v1 to happen.
they have poor mobility compared to warriors, yes, but they’re incredibly good at getting the kitten out of harm’s way.
Resident Disgruntled, Coffee-drinking Charr.
Zarin Mistcloak(THF) Valkyrie Mistblade(WAR) Kossori Mistwalker(REV) Durendal Mistward(GRD)
I used to think (build op, pls nerf) like you, but then I took a nerf to the knee.
Thank you very much ANet & GW2 teams
