Guild Wars 2

stale.9785:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

IceVyper.6810:

Pifil.5193:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

I think a fractal armor set (maybe having similar looks as its weapons) would be a good idea.

I also agree that wvw needs a couple more ‘exclusive’ sets as well. Something to work towards, to make badges worthwhile, etc.

I don’t disagree with the OP though, pve would need its own ‘exclusive’ set as well. That could come in the form of legendary armor, the return of FoW armor, harder world bosses getting a full set of droppable armor (like wurm slayer, but being a complete set, which anet could still do), etc.

Then each mode, or major game play component, would offer something “worth chasing.” (Theoretically) Just as we once desired to chase FoW armor, or Vabbian armor, etc.

This is a very reasonable position for this forum.

I don’t understand why people feel the need to turn this into another “us vs them” war, I play all modes (badly) and I don’t begrudge sPVP getting an exclusive set of armour but the “exclusive” PVE armour sets were the dungeon sets which were always accessible through sPVP. So them adding sPVP armour is a good first step but I think they really should add additional “prestige” sets for WvW, PVE and fractals. Which they may be planning on doing in the next few feature packs. (I’m still kinda hoping we’ll see a WvW exclusive set this feature pack though).

The difference is that the so-called exclusive dungeon skins were within anyone’s reach. Especially in the early days of the game, you could get a full dungeon set in a couple of days. Now, you need a week to do so.

The new exclusive pvp armor is accessible only to a handfull of players that get invited to a special tournament. And nobody is denying them their special reward. We are asking for something special for the people that play PVE.

It is incredibly difficult for me to see the new Amberite weapons, Mawdrey, in addition to the large lineup of Legendary / Tequatl / Wupwup weapons and then see requests for something special for people that play PVE.

To be frank.

Have you checked with Frank to see if he’s ok with this?

Picking nits here, but the legendary weapons all require pvp to get them – so they’re not at all pve exclusive. (Yes, WvW is players fighting players, thus is PvP – not PvE though quite often it appears to be Player vs. Door)

As I said elsewhere in this thread, I’ve no issue with there being unique rewards for PvPers, but comparing a few weapon skins to entire armour sets is… disingenuous…

They need entire sets, for each venue, that can ONLY be acquired through that venue. PvE exclusive armour sets, sets that can only be gotten through badges of honour, and of course, sets that can only be gotten through PvP.

Of course, Armor =/= weapons. I’m not comparing weapons to entire armor sets. My response was specifically to people that believe PVP is somehow obtaining -all- of the exclusivity due to the fact that dungeon armor can be acquired slowly through tracks, with the recent addition of an armor that the inverse does not apply to.

I have nothing against token-purchased armor that cannot be obtained through X player kills, and would -love- to see fractal relic armor/ An armor made from the mists.

DeWolfe.2174:

Deli.1302:

so entitled
everybody wants something for nothing

Wanting to be special in a couple of hours, that’s also a definition of being entitled. Where is the value of work in this scenario? If someone can apply effort and persevere, they should be able to achieve it. Not this super limited supply chain of having tournaments once in a blue moon. We need multiple avenues to success in game. To let each player take advantage of their unique capacity.

There are more ways to ‘succeed’ than to obtain a single armor set with a gentle misty glow about it that is given to players that were both lucky enough and skilled enough to be enrolled in and persevere in a tournament of this size.

A copy of which, again, you can get for free by just pvping. This seems to be the gigantic elephant in the room that people are just ignoring. This whole issue is boiling down to: “But my outfit wont -sparkle-”. People on Med/low graphics probably wont even be able to tell the difference…

Mireles Lore.5942:

Moshari.8570:

Mireles Lore.5942:

Black Scoutsman.5830:

Mireles Lore.5942:

Leo Paul.1659:

Am I misunderstanding something? Don’t you have to be physically in the tournament as well for a chance to win and get the reward?

Yes,

Also travel, sponsorship, and real world money obligations. People that say “skill based” and “git gud and climb the ranks” are trolls that really have no idea what they are talking about. Anet isn’t paying for these people to fly to all these countries. This armor will be out of reach for 99.99% of players no matter how hard you pvp at home.

That being said. I am sure that its the same armor everyone will be able to earn on the track but with some kind of effect or trim added to it, and you will probably never see these people in game. I don’t think Anet would expense the resources to make a totally different armor for such a small small fraction of their audience, but I guess we will see.

I really hope they plan to add a in-game tournament system and a leaderboard that actually measures something.

you know what? You’re right. I bet those people didnt just pick up the game and start playing it like everyone else in the world. They just complained really Hard and ANET felt bad for them and invited them to super elite special tournaments so they could have a chance at the best shiny pixels in a video game. Grow up kid. Not everything is gonna be handed to you just cus you dont feel like putting in the effort.

Go ahead call me a troll now. I’ll be ok

I am not expecting it to be handed to me. I don’t even care that this armor exists or that I wont have it. For the people that earn it, good for them, they put in the time, the money, and traveled, and won to earn it. I am not trying to get anet to change their mind on the requirements. I am just trying to get people to realize there is much much more to even participating in tournaments than “gettin good”. This is not a “skill based” reward because there much more than skill required. It is an eSports exclusive reward because it is gated behind tournaments most of us don’t have the time or money to participate in.

Telling people to “git good” is juvenile when you have to commit real money resources and time to travel to locations across the globe. “Git good” is the most trivial part, there are many people very skilled at PvP that have the skill but don’t have the time or the money to participate. You have to also seek sponsorship. Expend real money to meet obligations. And be able to put whatever that is going on in your life on pause to travel to other countries to even participate. So yes, when you tell people to “git gud and climb the ranks”, you are being juvenile because there is much more to it than that.

So continue to make assumptions on things you know nothing about, or personally attack me to try to invalidate what I said, troll. It is what it is. An eSports exclusive reward not skill based reward. Nothing wrong with that, but it is what it is.

What in the world are you talking about? I don’t participate in PvP…but I am pretty sure you don’t have to travel to play it. You also don’t have to travel to get into the tournaments….they happen in the game. And I DO believe that these guys who win these tournaments DO deserve to get something special for it. I will look upon it jealously, because I am not good at PvP…but I will also look on the guy who has it with some respect…because they earned it.

Yes you do have to travel to participate. The world tournament series will occur in Beijing, China.

And your right, the do deserve something special for it. But its just ridiculous to say that any guild wars 2 player can win if the just get good. You have to hurdle the money and the travel gate first. Then your skill is tested.

All of this, mind you, for a gentle dusting of fairy dust on armor you can get for free.

I see that we’re gently dancing around the fact that the -slightly-less-glowy version of that armor is available after a couple hours of playtime.

I’d hardly call a thin film of fairy dust on an armor set “catering”.

“I am death, Incarnate!”

Azhure.1857:

Judging by your choice of title and its relation to your topic, its pretty clear to me that you’re just trying to induce outrage from your fellow players. The 1% versus 99% argument doesn’t stand here. IF you want the armor set you have the same tools and freedom to go for it as the accused “1%” does.

Either work for it, which I suggest if you want it, or lock yourself in a padded room until your temper tantrum is over. Honestly buggers me when I hear people rage over not being handed something outright or when they’re told they have to do something in order to EARN it, whether or not its an activity they like.

I think the OP is relying on the fact that there is a “clear distinction” between the armor that anyone willing to join a SoloQ can get and the [slightly more sparkly] armor with the same base that will be given to the tournament winners.

How to play Gw2:

If you’re getting oneshotted, would you mind posting your build? I’ve seen an elementalist do just fine soloing the boss.

Vox Hollow.2736:

As an aside: I can’t believe somebody painstakingly photoshopped that Snickers bar to make the word mis-spelled. Subtle troll is subtle.

Mother of God…..

Solori.6025:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Plok.5873:

Jagstang, you just ran into the reason for satire’s & cabaret’s general typical decline.

No matter how vitriolic, grotesque and hyperbolic your persiflage might be, reality keeps overtaking you left and right. So either it’s just not funny anymore or it blends in with the other absurdity and is taken for real.

Wag the dog, someone?

All attempts he was making to be even remotely serious were thrown out the window when he said he’s been playing since 2010.

It’s a joke.

…IT WAS A JOKE FROM THE FIRST POST.

This plane flew so far over peoples heads it makes me wonder how and why I have some grain of hope in humanity

Given the junk Ive seen, I have a reasonable expectation that people say dumb things and often genuinely mean them, until I am presented irrefutable evidence to the contrary.

It was a joke, but not flawless.

Although I completely missed him stating that he “needed to make the satire more obvious.” that was a fail on my part.

I can understand scholar runes being useful if you get the drop on someone with thief, but if that player doesnt melt under your burst and touches you once you’re going to be debuffed.

It looks nice on paper. squishy but powerful.

Plok.5873:

Jagstang, you just ran into the reason for satire’s & cabaret’s general typical decline.

No matter how vitriolic, grotesque and hyperbolic your persiflage might be, reality keeps overtaking you left and right. So either it’s just not funny anymore or it blends in with the other absurdity and is taken for real.

Wag the dog, someone?

All attempts he was making to be even remotely serious were thrown out the window when he said he’s been playing since 2010.

It’s a joke.

Poplolita.2638:

You guys are aware that there is no such thing as condition meta in tpvp?

Also, to those who think a power build most be build around power/precision/ferocitity, have you ever faced a celestial d/d elem, and axebow/hambow warrior with soldier amulet? Those two are the best build in the game. They are the reason why this meta is called BUNKER META

At this point:

“Meta” means “Anything you cannot personally beat” to the majority of players.

“Nerf anything I cannot personally beat. It’s too strong. Don’t care if it takes skill or can be outperformed by me just playing a little differently.

If I cannot beat it, it’s overpowered. The people I wipe without breaking a sweat are fine though, they just need to L2P."

IvanTheGrey.2941:

Here you go. Better than Banner 1. (Hope you’ve got time to spare)

…

Shrug it off~ "shake it off! " slotted, Trooper runes, Traited Lung Capacity.

Condi [insert class here], hambow is a well-balanced-breakfast.

Vayne.8563:

Astral Projections.7320:

“I haven’t played GW2 in a few years or so…”
“Ah it feels like a few years but I suppose it’s been just one and some months”

There is a fairly substantial difference between a few years and a month or two. If it’s been “a few years”, or 2 years since the game is 2 years old then there are substantial changes to the game. I suggest you read the blog posts. However you now say it’s a month or so. So. Season 2 of the Living Story has begun and a new map, Dry Top, is opening up. That’s about it.

I think one and some months means a year and some months.

You’re right. That’s what he meant.

azuzephyr.7280:

Steelo.4597:

rolling burst warrior was hardmode already

…eh

…I

What?

How do you roll a burst warrior bro, this sounds like some intricate stuff

If it’s good, its bad.

Every build should be equally bad, at which point it’ll be all good.

Jagstang.6912:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Jagstang.6912:

I was on my D/D thief

roughly 2 and a half minutes or so.

I wouldn’t be able to hit him because stealth makes you invulnerable

How can you give a class such great advantages over another class?

I get the strong feeling you do not play thief. Either at all, or for very long.

Dude I play thief since 2010 in gw2. I think I know what I’m doing.

Okay I can’t not lol anymore. Good show.

Dusty Moon.4382:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

PsiKann.9853:

Hi all,

I have been told that The Edge of The Mists is the best place to level up a character. Is this correct? Is it recommended that I should continue doing The Edge of The Mists right up to level 80? Is there another strategy? I personally enjoy the PvE activities, but am wondering on the best way to level my character.

I have a level 37 elementalist.

Thanks in advance

Don’t worry about the comment above. Take it with a grain of salt.

Edge of the Mists is decent for leveling, but only if you run with a “Karma train”, that is, a group of people that run around taking objectives in the map for the sole purpose of farming Karma/gold/training.

If you’re on your own, you are at the mercy of any non-AI that catches sight of you.

Well, if you read the WvW threads, the plan is for the WvW guilds to take back EotM. There are already plenty of areas in the game that Karma/Farming occurs. Also the Veterans/Champs in EotM hit WAY harder than any in PvE – I have seen them one shot upleveled players.

If you want to play WvW, then by all means learn WvW in EotM, if you want to just RUSH to 80, which doesn’t take that long doing exploring and hearts, take your chances.

This considered, if you have dedicated WVW guilds wanting in on EoTM, then yeah you’re better off in PVE.

All in all, if nobody decides itll be fun stopping you, you’re golden.

Other than that lol nope.

Lishtenbird.2814:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Robin-Williams-pop-culture-achievements

I agree with the point in this thread that adding a tribute for him in this game, when he supposedly had no ties to it, would be more rude than it would be tributary.
Guy was a great person, but you can’t just sling his name around to honor him. you’d be doing the opposite if you did that pointlessly.

He played WoW. It makes sense there.
Not here.

PsiKann.9853:

Hi all,

I have been told that The Edge of The Mists is the best place to level up a character. Is this correct? Is it recommended that I should continue doing The Edge of The Mists right up to level 80? Is there another strategy? I personally enjoy the PvE activities, but am wondering on the best way to level my character.

I have a level 37 elementalist.

Thanks in advance

Don’t worry about the comment above. Take it with a grain of salt.

Edge of the Mists is decent for leveling, but only if you run with a “Karma train”, that is, a group of people that run around taking objectives in the map for the sole purpose of farming Karma/gold/training.

If you’re on your own, you are at the mercy of any non-AI that catches sight of you.

Nick.6972:

There are already tons of different skins unavailable to WvW/sPvP players who don’t play PvE.

And PvE is already by far the most updated part of GW2.

Can’t see the forest for the trees.

or in this case, can’t see the variety in PVE armor because the newest set was for PVP.

…Um?

I don’t mean to come off as insensitive but-

Did Robin Williams play Gw2?

PsiKann.9853:

I can afford some cultural armor… is this not recommended? Can I just buy or find armor with the same statistics?

You may be able to afford it, but note that your armor will change every couple of levels or so until you reach level 80. It’s better to wait until you hit that level before spending currencies on Armor.

EX: If you buy armor at lvl 36, at lvl 40 you will need a new set.

[Champion Risen Troll]

Iambeastx.6805:

Suppose there was the karka, though they appeared cos of dragons

‘’Why did this happen in tyria’’
“Because of dragon”

^Gw2 plot writer of the year

Greed/unwillingness to farm World Bosses for RNG precursors for the majority

IceVyper.6810:

Pifil.5193:

LanfearShadowflame.3189:

I think a fractal armor set (maybe having similar looks as its weapons) would be a good idea.

I also agree that wvw needs a couple more ‘exclusive’ sets as well. Something to work towards, to make badges worthwhile, etc.

I don’t disagree with the OP though, pve would need its own ‘exclusive’ set as well. That could come in the form of legendary armor, the return of FoW armor, harder world bosses getting a full set of droppable armor (like wurm slayer, but being a complete set, which anet could still do), etc.

Then each mode, or major game play component, would offer something “worth chasing.” (Theoretically) Just as we once desired to chase FoW armor, or Vabbian armor, etc.

This is a very reasonable position for this forum.

I don’t understand why people feel the need to turn this into another “us vs them” war, I play all modes (badly) and I don’t begrudge sPVP getting an exclusive set of armour but the “exclusive” PVE armour sets were the dungeon sets which were always accessible through sPVP. So them adding sPVP armour is a good first step but I think they really should add additional “prestige” sets for WvW, PVE and fractals. Which they may be planning on doing in the next few feature packs. (I’m still kinda hoping we’ll see a WvW exclusive set this feature pack though).

The difference is that the so-called exclusive dungeon skins were within anyone’s reach. Especially in the early days of the game, you could get a full dungeon set in a couple of days. Now, you need a week to do so.

The new exclusive pvp armor is accessible only to a handfull of players that get invited to a special tournament. And nobody is denying them their special reward. We are asking for something special for the people that play PVE.

It is incredibly difficult for me to see the new Amberite weapons, Mawdrey, in addition to the large lineup of Legendary / Tequatl / Wupwup weapons and then see requests for something special for people that play PVE.

To be frank.

You shouldnt be looking into purchasing armor too seriously until you are level 80.

Until that point, most armor dropped from mobs that fit you will suffice, and if you go too long without finding a specific armor piece from a mob, you can buy it on the Trading post.

Armor, trinket, and ring buying only becomes a chore when you start getting into Exotic, Ascended. until then anything works.

Enjoy the ride. you don’t have to worry about gear until you hit max level. if you want to pay favor to a specific stat on your way, take a look at the

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Item_nomenclature

and pick up cheap green/blue colored armor that matches the prefix/suffix of the stat you want to add predominantly.

Just make all the panels last a couple seconds longer, or better yet, not break.
Could even excuse it by saying that the Asurans have ‘perfected’ their floor panel technology.

DutchRiders.2871:

Which respectable commander doesn’t have 300g these days? One could even argue this is a much wanted gold sink.

Dear Anet.

Buying Black commander tag @ 300g.

Pm if selling.

Thanks,

[shameless farmer]

Lunaire.5827:

With the introduction of the upcoming glorious hero’s armor, only the people who win pvp tournaments will have access to this armor set. This means you are restricting an exclusive armor set to less than 1% of your player base.

I initially joined this game because I loved how it was different from other games. You didn’t have to be in the top raiding guilds and schedule your life around raids to get the best looking gear, nor did you have to place top in ‘arena teams’ to get the best looking pvp gear. At the beginning, you could pretty much play how you want and gain xp towards your level or earn loot towards crafting a legendary.

Sure, there were more efficient ways than others to earn coin or xp, but you could still play how you wanted and enjoy knowing you were still working towards a goal.

But now you have chosen to cater an armor set solely to the ‘1%’ crowd that feels they need to show off to the rest of the player base. This means you are excluding 99% of your playerbase from an armor set just so the 1% can feel special.

Quite frankly I thought ArenaNet was above this sort of design. Why did this change?

So the ‘1%’ should not be rewarded exclusively for dedicating time and effort toward learning how to outplay something better than Mob AI?

You can still craft your legendaries. It isnt like the incredible ‘catering’ as you call it has gone anywhere, for PVE.

PVP is a game mode too, though. and until now, there was no special reward for doing it.

If it’s for a tournament, the point is even more consise. winning a tournament takes careful planning, research, and training in order to even stand a chance. I think the reward for both being lucky enough to gain entry -and- skillful enough to win that tournament should be rewarded with something exclusive that proves they bested the experience. And even with that in mind, the Glorious Heros armor will probably just have sparkles added to them compared to the widely obtainable one, which isn’t a shining mark of exclusivity.

[From the viewpoint of someone who will probably never have the time or desire to try and enter a tournament on this game.]

The only reason the asura are above ground is because there’s a dragon underground.

Tyria has been designed in such a way that there is no place to move to without encountering some kind of dragon.

Move to Frostgorge? Jormag.

Grove? Mordy.

Underground? Primordus.

Desert? Krall.

Zhaitan is probably floating around somewhere, if not Tequatl

Underwater? Bubbles.

Hide with the Tengu? They’re dealing with destroyers.

mtpelion.4562:

You cannot have prestige from PvE gear because PvE gear is not about player skill but about character stats (i.e. it isn’t a competition with others, but a competition with math).

What passes for difficulty in PvE is just memorizing exactly what to do and when, something which watching a video once or twice can accomplish for you.

PvP actually separates good players from bad players which allows rewards to be exclusive and prestigious.

If you are playing a game for prestige, then you need to be playing PvP. If you are playing a game for fun, then you need to be playing whatever you find to be fun and not caring about what is going on in the areas that you don’t find fun.

I’d like to add that if he is attempting to play PVE for prestige, he should be working on [Eternity] and not worrying about some armor skin.

PVE has unique items that can only be obtained in PVE.

[Weapons of the Sunless]
[WupWup Weapons]
[Every Legendary]

But the moment an armor skin gets put as an incentive for PVP, tables start flipping?

All the exclusivity was tipped in PVE’s favor before. There were many items in the PVE aspect that simply could not be gained in PVP, and of the ones that could be gained in PVP, a dedicated dungeon runner could do it faster.

Now there is a reason to play PVP, if only to aggravate people that won’t set foot in it at all.
’Cause actually having fun losing your way to armor apparently is still too hard to endure.

Thief / PUMesmer

carlvinmadarang.4130:

Prices have skyrocketed since I last played. Any it seems like gold is less and less easy to get. Any tips on farming or what to do?

1.) Do Dungeons.
2.) Do Boss Trains.
3.) Sell Raw materials and Exotics. do not bother crafting to sell complete items.
4.) Flip items on the Trading Post.

Dear Anet:

If a White or Black dorito is in your final color palette, I will gladly farm 300g.

Regards,
[Shameless]

uberkingkong.8041:

My feelings about this is that if you already have GW2 account theres no need for you to get another. Traditional MMORPGs like EQ, WoW, etc., people would be enticed to this deal of getting another account. But in GW2, boxing is pretty pointless because most of the fighting is moving around and its not let 1 account tank and other accounts spam nukes. I know in traditional MMOs running 3 box was pretty normal and you had these hardcore people running 30 boxes. But GW2, ones enough, I see no reason at all to have more than one account.

You know what, I actually like that this game isn’t box friendly. However I do have to say that this game isn’t really group/party friendly either since everyone is self sufficient.

If this deal was intended to get your friends to play it, than if your target market is 13-18 year olds in middle school and high school, than your doing it wrong. This is because kids haven’t been able to form relationships and school hasn’t started yet for them to gossip about it, the deal ends pretty much when school starts. If your target market is 19 – 25 year olds in college, than your doing it wrong. You should’ve did this deal during the springtime for college people because that’s right before summer and they discuss with friends what they can do over the summer as well.

Have you considered that Arenanet may simply be offering it at a lower price in order to entice players that thought it costs too much at normal price, regardless of what marketing audience they are in?

I think your character only gets equipment drops around their current level, If I am not misinformed.

So a Precursor would only drop for a Level 80, and even then as a rare chance.

aviranran.5208:

if there is not even one lion in Tyria where the symbol of Lion’s Arch (the statue) and the lion from the Black Lion Trading Company come from ?

Sure there are lions.

As Statues.

underwater.

Eight Samurai.6840:

In my opinion, I don’t find it fair that PvPers can get Arah dungeon armor and weapons (Arah is considered by far the hardest dungeon in the game) by doing pvp only, and now they are releasing PvP exclusive armor that is not available anywhere else. I feel like PvPers are being babied because most don’t want to step foot outisde heart of the mists.

I pvp on occasion as well as doing dungeons, fractals, and wvw. This new armor looks crazy good looking actually and I wish there was a way in pve or wvw to receive those skins.

To be fair, the dungeon becomes routine once you know what to do.

I think it presents a nice option. Instead of grinding the same dungeon over and over for the armor, players can go do PVP matches to gain it at a very very slow rate.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

-writes title-

You lost.

On Topic:

Looks like you’ll need to start PVPing. their priorities are fine. PVP got a balance patch, a dungeon track, and an armor set.

PVE Got A whole map, a whole weapon set, and ascended back armor.

Don’t mask “I want but don’t want to work for x” under accusations of incorrectly assessed priorities.

Jagstang.6912:

I was on my D/D thief

roughly 2 and a half minutes or so.

I wouldn’t be able to hit him because stealth makes you invulnerable

How can you give a class such great advantages over another class?

I get the strong feeling you do not play thief. Either at all, or for very long.

qwerty.1230:

way to screw up one of the best skins from GW1, anet. why couldn’t you just take the chaos axe the way it was? and it looks like minimal effort was put into the rest of them…

Well it isn’t a complete screw up.

I think that, coming right after weapons fashioned from artifacts of porous rock, blindingly white misty weapons seem a bit…. garish?

Far from a travesty, but not enough for me to -want- any of them.

Ill just pick up a skin for every weapon my warrior can use in Ley Line since the prices are 20-30% cheaper than nostalgiaweaps.

Dinoslaw.3842:

You should feel bad ‘cause you’re bad. Sry, fight was not even challenging – highly telegraphed, tendris are easy to kill from range, nothing hits bigger than 1/7 hp.

Died once – because I dodged off platform.

This, except I dodged off the platform twice.
Sad life.

Other than that, AOE was entertaining, but not difficult. Subject Alpha was harder.

I’m actually glad to see some people had difficulty though. being able to down someone’s armor off of them that has gotten to level 80 without being completely discouraged means that the stage devs are doing it right. I even died, although that was due to the grove being WEIRD. Why is that HOLE there!?

for people who haven’t learned not to stand in circles, that is.

It was the Flame Legion.

World boss Train.

Orr.

Group events for mats.

You will be living in Orr for most of your process. good luck to you. Avoid the sharks.

[Champion Risen Scarlet]

iSpook.5612:

when did cooldowns become trivial? I’m pretty sure all cooldowns aren’t fun.

I just think people would have a different perspective if thiefs had to build upto a steal, rangers had to build up to a pet skill, guardians had to build up to agies, ele had to build up before changing atunements etc (all these things are just cooldowns, not two hoops to jump through)

im just saying this is going to be pretty rough on warriors

No, it isn’t. Not to me, anyway.

Now that I can kitten my adrenal health, AND burn my adrenaline on a whiffed evisc/arcling slice/flurry, I’m going to actually have to pay attention as to when I’ll use these skills in order to ensure I land.
That means counting dodges, perma swiftness, making sure I have a gap closer and CC for the more precise bursts…which Warriors actually already do anyway for pvp.

The Adrenaline dump doesn’t even matter, all things considered, because with cleansing ire and SOR you will most likely be back at full Adrenaline before the whiffed attack even goes off cooldown again…

It’s a slap-on-the-wrist-nerf.

A “pay-attention-kitten-nerf.”

Vayne.8563:

LMAO OP! Excellent stuff.

Once there was a guy who ran past me without rezzing to a chest, and then left. A later found the same guy dead. I rezzed him to 90% and walked away. lol

Rofl.

I love this.