Guild Wars 2

Don’t worry, nobody at arenanet is pushing esports now. They realized that u cant make an esport just by saying a game is an esport and throwing a couple thousand dollars here and there.
But now they found another way to make spvp a success (sort of) that doesn’t include fixing the game, by giving rewards and stuff, and my god it worked well, know we have like 60% of players playing not for the game itself, but for the rewards (typical mmo style of doing things).

Esporzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Osi.3504:

I know what you are talking about… not just about being lost in the leaderboards but also with all the troll responses. I lost 14 soloQ matches in a row one day and nearly every time I had 2 or 3x the score contribution than the others lol. The day before I won 8 and lost just 1 game and I was a previous top 100r before ladder reset but due to the lack of bunkers on my team and the amount of morons I have played with that day… I lost a lot of games, but did have a couple close ones… yes only a couple.

And yes, I’m one of those who try to complete all the achievements too that you seemed to support the 6 hour no life system over the previous one that didnt take much time or something and losing that many matches in a day just adds on the hours…

The matchmaking doesnt work properly at off peak hours, and even in peak hours when it has as much people queueing as posible sometimes it doesn’t work either.
If u lose 3 matches in a row the best advice anyone can give (and it comes from experience) is to stop playing and go play something else or watch a movie or whatever. But since u need the achievement points, well, u are screwed and u will need to suffer this pain again and again (i’m glad i can stop after losing 3 matches in a row).

Alberto, u will encounter a lot more angry people in solo queue.

In hot-join nobody cares, but in solo queue there is this weird desire to be 100 or whatever in the leaderboards, so people get angry, really really angry. And whatever u do, don’t play an ele in solo queue, i had people (already reported) that desired my death through cancer just for playing and losing a solo queue match with my ele. It seems that if i played warrior we would have won (my record is 7 reports in 3 games, in one game 3 of my teammates whispered me to desire a happy holydays in their own way, through cancer or aids).

Also, in solo queue u will eventually realize that there is only so much u can do and a lot of times all is vain.

Still, even with all that and the obvious balance problems of the game, u can have some nice matches if u endure the bad ones (arena net, where is my surrender button!!, let me forfeit the match and move on!!).

Well u can roughly estimate the number of players that play or played solo queue or team queue by trying to figure out when the first 1000 starts in %.
But, it shouldn’t be a lot of dudes, even with the rewards its hard to play more than 3 games in a row without getting angry and mad.

I suppose u don’t wanna or can play in a team, because thats the only thing that u can do to avoid the randomness of playing alone.
Gw2 spvp it’s a team game, meaning, solo queue leaderboards are more or less a huge joke, and solo queue or team pugging is random, there are some systems making it less random, but overall, there is a lot of randomness and u can only avoid that by joining a team.
If u want a nonrandom single player competitive experience, yea, u should probably stop playing gw2 spvp before u get mad.

In solo queue do NOT play more if u lose 2 or 3 games in a row. I advice you, it will put u in the same spot. Stop playing and come back next day and try again.
This is NOT a good game to play alone and u will get kitten ed off fast and win nothing.

This is NOT sc2 where u can rely in a 50% chance to win and lose, here probably because of the playerbase, its a lot more variable and u can lose 8 games in a row, and obviously u will get angry, nobody likes that, nobody likes to lose 8 times and not advance, and more important. Do NOT try to be smart and use anything that requires skill like an ele, play the fotm builds that autoplay for you (engi is pretty good, warrior, hunter spirits, etc.) u will get even more angry, even more when the people of ur team will whisp you to “thank you” for using an ele instead of a warrior (ive reported 7 guys in 3 days for that because i happened to play an ele some games).

In pvp is way worst, it doesn’t help also that 70% are warriors, minion necros or mesmers…

Silv.9207:

If you play TsPvP in solo you just need to prey, but it’s because TsPvP has been created for Team and not for solo players.
If you go in SsPvP, you must hope to find players that know how to play, yes.
But I’m a Guardian DPS and all the team scream behind me “why you’re not a bunker? You’re useless” ‘till the see me play and win against almost all classes XD
If you find a player that know how to play it’s class and build, you don’t need a “OP” class user, because you can find a better team member than a useless n00b that try to win whit a “OP” class and don’t know how to play.

I’ve see ele in Foefire whit berserker build and staff that hold the mid by a safe place up the rocks just becaus whit powerfull AoE attacks, and you can’t stay in the mid because you die.

You can find strange builds for pvp that work and make you win if the player know how to play.

But yes, if you find a team of n00bs, you lose XD

But that’s a “true story” in every game, guys.

Méh, a guardian dps is still miles better than an ele . When i play one i apologize in advance to my teammates.

Can u post your staff build ?
I’m using a DD frsh air with way worst success that i had with my guardian or engi, it maybe because i didnt play ele for months and months but the build ive got doesn’t seem to be too good either. Also, i wanna try staff .

The last thing they said is that glory as a currency will be removed and that ranks won’t.
So, if u farmed skyhammer, u will keep the rank, don’t worry, but spend the glory as soon as possible.

If u want to avoid the randomness of solo queue, get a team. And yeah, i know, i cant get a team too, too much time investment that with a job and some social stuff is hard to do.

What i mean, is something i’m starting to understand, that this game for competitive stuff it’s only worth with a team, outside of that, you will probably get mad sooner than later and get angry instead of having an enjoyable experience.

If you can take the randomness and play small dosis it’s kind of bearable, but i can’t imagine myself playing a lot of games in a row or taking the solo leaderboards seriously, especially if the first games you play are 100 – 500 or something like that. If u lose 2 or 3 games in a row it’s better to stop, if u queue again, most likely it will put you in the same kind of match, probably because the playerbase in that moment is low and it has to deal with what it has queueing.

They deserved that lost, playing an ele, really !!

The point of the last patches is to make new players come for the rewards, that would be like giving someone 100 dolars and then hit him in the head with a baseball bat enough so that he needs to spend 80 in medical care.
For good or for bad, they managed to double the spvp playerbase (granted they first lost 80% of the playerbase), true that this playerbase is mostly rabbits looking for carrots and not lions looking for meat, but what other option did they had.
I mean, the game is still a mess (just play 10 games in solo and count the number of eles or count the number of nonplayers in a teamfight clones + minion + pet + spirits, it’s quite funny when u do that and realize that this number doubles the player numbers xD, sometimes i think we could let the teamfight to the pets..).

Go pve useless ele.

:)

I don’t know if i play fresh aire right, but the only thing i do is go in, do the combo, pray the half death dude is now dead and go the hell out before you die from the grenade, mark, minion, spam and before they focus me .
Most 1 vs 1 are useless because you die unless the enemy is another ele or doesn’t know how to push their I win button.
And it’s the one build that worked the best for me xD .

SoLeciTO.3490:

A thief can hit you by 13k also with a full glass canon build . . . .

But you hit him twice that xD with a 11k hp pool.

Warriors are too good for so long . . . probably will happen what happens to thief . . .

Nerf them to the ground . . .

Same as eles

Well atleast i still see some thief in solo queue, i think its been 6 games since the last ele xD .

JEJE 2 different players told me today, go pve useless ele xD .
If u happen to know any build where the ele becomes another op class (like warrior, guardian and so on) it would help a lot xD.

Teamqueue

500 – 250
500 – 100
500 – 76
500 – 100
500 – 295
500 – 250
500 – 275

Number of people kitten ed of (talking trash):
1
1
2
4 (all of them stopped playing )
1
0
1

Funny thing is that even thou games are like this queues pop in half a minute, does the matchmaking try to put us against someone we can win or the first one it finds xD .

All is vain .
The answer to all the problems with pvp is more rewards, yea, more kitten for playing. But i’m a pvp player i don’t care sbout rewards. It’s not for you dude, is to trick the pve players to come to pvp.
And the QA was hilarious.

kito.1827:

Sirendor.1394:

Justin ODell.9517:

Thedenofsin.7340:

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I’m sorry you’ve gotten matches you don’t enjoy. We’re working on addressing the skill gap on multiple fronts.

In the mean time, have you tried Team Arena? You may find it more your speed.

I have tried TPvP with some friends from guild. We’re ranging from rank 5-20. We got matched up with 5 guys rank 30-40. If that’s what you call balance… , you need a new system for SPvP.

rank
does
NOT
count

it just indicates time invested, no match grouping around rank, no skill indication

/facepalm

this may be to blame the ‘entry-mmr’, but srsly neither matchmaking nor balance nor is it anets fault if people play some classes.

why does everybody seem to be too narrow minded to figure that out?

Because at the end of the game what the game shows about other players is the rank, not their position in the leaderboards .

WRay.2391:

Baldric.6781:

Before ascended armor, you could buy gems for money convert them to gold and get the full exotic armors and weapons, with 0 effort .
That was right and ascended is wrong ?

What’s wrong with this ?
You cannot buy uber weapon to dominate without having skill. Even you bought exotics you suck because you don’t have skill (you need to spend time to master in any case). If you earned it you didn’t waste real money for it and it wasn’t a big grind, so you are not in disadvantage. ANET got some cash. Win/win/win IMO.

Legendaries should not be tradable though. So if you got it – it’s a status item.

You miss the point. The guy is a casual player without much time to play and obtain the best gear in the game, the freaking ascended stufff. Before, you could get exotics easily or with 0 effort buying them in TP for exchanged gems for gold. I didn’t saw anyone complaining that u could buy the best stat gear of the game so it was ok.

And then ascended comes and you need to invest huge amounts of time, and you can’t buy gems convert to gold and buy this stuff (and before u could buy the best gear with money). Before it was ok to be able to obtain the best stat gear with real money, but now it’s not ok because ?

I’m just trying to understand what will be so bad about buying the best stat gear in the game when some months ago u could do that.

Before ascended armor, you could buy gems for money convert them to gold and get the full exotic armors and weapons, with 0 effort .
That was right and ascended is wrong ?

I’m with you, an that’s when i’m not even an achievement hunter or whatever u want to be called. In theory, with a matchmaking system, you would win 50% of games so reaching something like 3 wins wouldn’t be so hard (and it doesn’t matter how good or bad you are, the game will take into account that and place you against bad or good players). However, that is NOT how queues work in gw2, most likely because the playerbase playing spvp isn’t that big and there is no way you can create a matchmaking system that solves that (it doesn’t matter how much they patch it).
In fact, when you play at off peak hours a lot of the matches are extreme 200-500 where one team gets completely and utterly destroyed (I had in team queue 3 matches against the same team, and every time we got completely destroyed, so much, that the other team even apologized to us). Why the matchmaking system put us against them, most likely, because there was none else (it was off peak hour).

But, giving achievemnts for playing X games will only increase the afk numbers. I believe the only thing that can be done is either remove the achievements for spvp or that all of the achievemnts are something like kill 3 guys in spvp, capture one node in spvp, try to defend 2 nodes in spvp, and so on. Something that require you to play but can be done in 2 or 3 games just by trying to win.

I’m playing now team arena too, it’s all advantatges and only one bad thing.
No skyhammer, better rank/gold rewards and overall i had more “high level” matches, meaning people actually watch the minimap and help their teammates.
And the bad thing is just that maybe you will play against an organized team with comunication, but it doesn’t happen too often.

Sad to say it, but solo is now useless to me (and i play solo!!).

So, my problem with the leaderboards it’s easy. Why the hell i’m freaking 410 when i know for sure that i’ve never ever ever been that good at this pvp think.

Seriously, what the kitten is going on ? Sure i’m not a bad player, probably a better than average player, but 410!! in europe!!, when the queue is actually fast, which means a lot of people playing, well, atleast more than before ?

There is people claiming that they are in some elo hell, then i’m sure i’m in a freaking elo heaven and i shouldn’t be there. Get your kitten together, i’m not that good.

It’s also worst because since some months ago, i’m not playing seriously, why the hell i have better rank when i’m not even trying. I didn’t go to see my leaderboards till now because i thought, i don’t care, and they will be something like 50% because i screwed a lot with useless builds and lost a lot of games. And now, out of curiosity, i go to leaderboards, and i see that. I’ve been carried and i don’t like it.

I don’t deserve that rank!!!

ronpierce.2760:

It’s funny because people are so excited to get money in PvP now and don’t realize to get anything they’re now need gold. Its the illusion of being rewarded, but in reality, if you have any glory saved up, you’re better off just going and farming in PvE to get your pvp rewards, now.

Pretty much, yes.
This also means that if i want to farm and afk pvp, i will afk and farm teamqueue, the rewards are better .
Pvp is not played for rewards, is played for the competition. Trying to lure pve’rs into pvp by rewards won’t work, you can’t force a rabbit to eat meat, even if u hide a carrot inside the meat, it just doesn’t work.

Hey,

I will try to play again some spvp, solo queue or team queue. But it’s been so long that I don’t know what’s been buffed, nerfed or destroyed of my lovely engi class.
Can u link me a good engi build for spvp tournaments? (Not HGH please ).
I guess a node atacker would be cool.

Thanks!!

As expected, they won’t deal with skyhammer farming (if u missed the exploit, well, too bad for u , next time, exploit the system as soon and as much as u can).

What they are doing makes a lot of sense if we take into account the failure of spvp. Now, spvp will be what should be, a sidekick for pve, where pve’rs will be able to spend huge amounts of gold (or buy gems and convert to gold to buy pvp skins), this will help to generate some money from pvp and will deal a bit with the stupid amount of inflation that this game has now.

In that effort gold generated in spvp will be way way way less than in pve, so if u want some pvp skins, well, u can farm gold in pve, buy gems or play for hours and hours spvp (you will miss the old ranks).

The new achievement points will lure more pve farmers to solo queue and team queue, and that is bad (yea it is). This people won’t become pvper’s because you make them play some spvp, it doesn’t work that way, they are rabbits, it doesn’t matter if u hide some carrots inside a piece of meat, they will dig the carrot out, eat it and go away, they won’t become carnivorous, it doesn’t work and you should already know it.

Arena.net would be really stupid if it used most of its resources to fix spvp. Yeah, that seems a good plan, let’s put money in pvp so we can try to lure some pvper’s back, players that had lost our trust. So maybe we can have a decent playerbase and maybe we can become an esport and maybe get some of the money invested in fixing spvp back…
Or they could release more pve content and make money. A hard choice as you can see..

And by the way there is rewards in spvp, and pve players farmed a lot of those rewads, achievements and ranks, and they didn’t become spvp players did they ? Yeah, that’s the thing, most pve players don’t like pvp, it’s trying to feed meat to a rabbit, it doesn’t work.

There is no way this game will be anything more than a sidekick for pve, get over with it, if u invested a lot of time in this, well man, kitten happens in life and it could be a lot worse.

I suggest a campaign of mass-hypnosis so people start thinking, wow watching gw2 is awesome, instead of the what the hell is this orgy of skill spam and lights ? And how the hell i’m supposed to see any counterplay in this spam ?

- Redesign skills so high damage or good control skills are very telegraphic and relatively easy to avoid.
- Put the freaking leaderboard rank in the games instead of the farming rank.
- Make buffer and control builds possible and viable (the op build that does control and crazy damage is not a good idea).
- Nerf every class to the point of the pre-immune to everything warrior.

It’s kind of sad, really.
They managed to fix the matchmaking but it doesn’t matter too much since the playerbase is low and this isn’t a 1 vs 1 game, it requires 10 players for a single match, so it’s harder to balance the match.

They also have some cool ideas, like balancing teams by professions and whatnot, but what’s the point, if the playerbase is low, it will try to balance the match for 10 minutes and then throw whatever it has so you can atleast play, even if it’s 5 mesmers.

Then there is these amazing ideas that will make the playerbase grow by… by what ? By giving rewards ? So we will have more pve players farming ? Or even better, splitting the already low playerbase into some “leagues”, so queues reach 20 minutes (who is going to play with 20 minutes queues ?, what will remain of the playerbase, people with infinite free-time ? )

The truth is sad and hopeless, spvp will die slowly. It will happen unless they somewhat revive the hype with an expansion with pvp improvements (big improvements) or they do an expansion worth patch of pvp (i don’t see either one coming). The worst thing, is that if the boss that decides what to do is not completely deluded into the spvp madness and is a bit rational, there is no way he or she will think that an expansion woth patch or even an expansion pvp is a good idea to make money. Yeah, let’s put all this money and time into spvp so maybe we can regain the playerbase that we previously hyped and dehyped and maybe be a success (lots of maybes), or let’s do more pve and gain more money… A really hard choice as you can see…
But developers need to eat (and avoid depression), so it’s better for everybody to stay with the nice fantasy (we will do X and Y and players will come again). As some wise man said, life is that kitten that happens while you’re waiting for moments that never come. And here we are, waiting for a moment that will never come.

You should have exploited the trollhammer arenas to reach rank 50. You would be way less burned now.

Justin ODell.9517:

Flumek.9043:

In perfect theory, if matchmaking put you against EQUAL opponents , would everyone have/be very close to a 50/50 win ratio in the long run ?

No, even assuming a very large population with abundant skill range coverage, a portion of the difference comes from a player raising/lowering their rating from the default starting position. It takes a while for your MMR to settle.

If you have a good matchmaking and plenty of playerbase yes, it’s close to 50/50, unless you get really bad or really good suddenly, or you are in the extreme. But 90% of players should have close 50/50 in the long run.
Anyone that had played Starcraft 2 can confirm it. It’s probably that gw2 doesn’t have a variable that says how sure the system is of your “skill number” or it’s not properly tweaked or there isn’t enough playerbase to have 90% of close matches (or maybe 2 at the same time).
By the way, instead of decay, make a proper season with points, again, watch what they do in sc2 (don’t reinvent the wheel again, seriously!).

No amount of matchmaking can make up for a low playerbase. Even if they somehow manage to put a system that takes into account the classes of the queued players, a lot of matches will still be bad, or you will have really long queues (like 30 min, hell 2 weeks ago i had +10 min. queues in europe).
If they changed the way teams are made, so it’s not the best 5 vs the worst 5, it’s as much as you can do. Yes you will have bad games, some you will even say really ? how i’m supposed to win ? But that’s the best you can have in gw2, and no amount of matchmaking will fix it. Unless you are ready to wait 30 minutes to play.

I think it’s easy the reasons why gw2 isn’t an esport.

First of all, the esports thingy is already too crowded, there maybe some little spot for a weird action-rpg-pvp mmo, but it can’t be too big.

Second, pvp it’s not the focus of this game, this game isn’t very good at pvp, wvw or pve, because it can’t, and it can’t because the game has to focus in 3 things at the same time. There is no way you can have an amazing pvp unless you say, we will use most of the resources and balance patches for pvp and everything else will be delayed and secondary. That doesn’t mean that it’s bad, i believe it’s the best mmo ever for the amount of money you pay (and i mean it, the best mmo u can buy), but it’s not a pvp mmo.

Third, hype is already dead, you can’t maintain the hype just with dreams, but you need the hype to become an esport. And hyping the same people for the same game, it’s hard as hell, maybe with an expasion with improve leaderboards, match-making, etc. But even then, you already failed them once.

Fourth, and this is maybe the worst, it’s not fun to watch, it’s really really hard to follow what is happening, it’s really really hard to see nice things like counter play, there is too much skills used per second (even in 2 vs 2) to see what is happening. And it’s probably because the game is too much fast-paced and there is too much teleport, stealth, and immune stuff that negates position and counter play.

Well, in the end happened what was expected, skyhammer farming is nerfed, but they won’t touch any exploiters .
Well, if u didn’t exploit the map too bad, next time exploit it as soon as posible!!

They said again and again that they won’t do anything that could harm innocent players (or anything complex). A rollback won’t happen, unless they change their policy completely tomorrow.
Where the hell did u read about rollback, in some angry spvp post ? :P

Have faith!!

Seriously, if u care so much about ranking, start farming before they nerf skyhammer farming even more, or you will end up with rank 30 and everybody else who cares will be 50 or so!!
They said left and right that they won’t harm hotjoin, so what u expect ? That somehow they will take out the amount of rank that people farmed throught skyhammer farming ? U sure that they have the information of how much glory was farmed in said map in said round. And even if they had this information, u sure they will dig this information and start what, taking away glory ranks ? So they will use the resources and time for that, even when is clear for the quality and amount of pvp patching that they lack the resources, so some dudes that play soloqueue can feel better with themselves because they have a cooler finisher than farmers…

You should start farming skyhammer to reach that rank without playing that much a day (seek another hobby if u have so much free time, a dead pvp game isn’t a good hobby at all).
Also, they won’t nerf skyhammer too much, it’s actually making a lot of pve’rs to play pvp, true they just farm, but who cares, since soloqueue and teamqueue playerbase is so low, if we let them farm in hotjoin, we can say that there is a lot more people playing spvp now (and it’s completely true!!).

You are trying to design a system to force a player to play a round he doesn’t want to play (or even, can’t play).
That of course, is hard as hell, put an antiafk system, and that player will move one inch every 5 minutes while reading forums to avoid being punished.
Put a ready button and maybe i will miss it since i have 10 minutes queue and i don’t want to stare waiting or doing pve.
Put a report system and maybe i will be reported for being a leaver, but i played all the game, it just so happens that i’m not skilled as the rest or newbie, and 3 of my teammates hate me for that, so they report me to avoid playing with me ever again.
Put a harsh dishonor and maybe you make a player that just happens to have a bad connection unable to play for 2 days.

So, what’s the solution ? Well, none. What you want can’t be done, the best you can do is some report system that helps to identify people with bad manners or that afk a lot (but never ever block them just because 3 people reported them) and some dishonor system that if you disconnect again and again blocks you from playing some hours.

In the end the issue here is that this player doesn’t want to play, that’s the real issue. And it’s really sad because this can’t be fixed either, in order to fix it you need fair matches, and there isn’t enough playerbase to have enough variety of skill to have mostly fair matches.

Why i’m 90% in team leaderboards!! I haven’t played team queue for months!
I should not appear at the leaderboards at all…

Just do a 2 months season or something like that (reset the freaking leaderboards and give some nice cosmetic or even gems to the first 100 or whatever).

At most they will nerf it in the next patch, so if i were even slightly interested in glory ranks i will farm them right now before they nerf it, since i’m 99% that they won’t do a thing to anyone who farmed ranks with this exploit.
And since it seems that u are interested in glory ranks, start farming them as soon as posible.

It’s amazing how many people still play this game only because it has “potential”.
Why you do that ? Why force yourself to play a game you don’t enjoy much of the time while there are hundreds of games, for example, in steam for a few bucks.

KrisHQ.4719:

Exedore.6320:

If you can play the game and if you understand it enough to tell when someone used their skills at the best times or didn’t waste them for little benefit, it’s accomplished depth. The same is true for team coordination. And that leads into the entertainment factor.

Problem is that with GW2, there is basically no difference between spamming your skills and/or using them intelligently.
So it’s almost impossible to tell if someone used their skills at the best time, and to be honest it doesn’t really matter, since the CD is usually so low that spamming is in fact
more efficient than waiting for the “right moment”.

By the time the right moment appears, you could have spammed your skill three times. I know what works the best.

+1. And it comes a lot because they are being way way too innovative, so they removed energy management for 90% of classes, now it’s just cool-downs, so for a lot of what maybe situational skills you are better if you use them whenever they are not in cool-down, since the risk is too low (not having the skill for that situation where it works best, but since cool-down is low, you could maybe have 3 full cool-downs before that situation happens).

For example, the mark 5, the fear one, deals fear and damage. But since the damage is nice, the cool-down is not that huge and fear is another condi for extra damage, you are better using this skill with the usual condi-combo to deal extra damage, instead of saving it for avoiding a stomp of one of ur teammates.

Orangensaft.7139:

also they get free lvl 20 slot bags for every char which they dont deserve*

depending on available bag slots and number of alts…
…
thats like 250-1000g!

ITS A PVE RELATED EXPLOIT ANET FIX IT

PVE PVE YOU SEE FIX IT NOW!
as you only care about pve exploits obviously i had to make clear how much pve related and about gold that exploit is

Good try, but it’s still a spvp exploit .
If i were even slightly interested in getting rank or glory, i would exploit it right know before they nerf it somehow, because it’s clear as water to me that they won’t do anything to anyone who achieved rank by using this exploit. So exploit it while you can.

Allie Murdock.8152:

Hey all!

As many of you may know already, team Denial Esports won the MLG Guild Wars 2 Invitational last Friday. Please join me in congratulating them, it’s well deserved!

Congrats!!

I didn’t know it!! Thanks, i didn’t care before, and now, i don’t care either.

Shukran.4851:

Baldric.6781:

I will recommend gw2 spvp to everyone I know.
Gw2 spvp is the best esport i’ve ever seen, except maybe League of Legends.
I will never stop talking about gw2 spvp or League of Legends.

You know what’s not slowing down ? Gw2 spvp, haven’t seen anything like it since League of Legends.

:)

u have seen not much if you didnt see sc2 or cs.
… or mtg or street fighters.
esport

thx for deleting also this post

And you don’t watch family guy . Search in youtube family guy breaking bad .

I will recommend gw2 spvp to everyone I know.
Gw2 spvp is the best esport i’ve ever seen, except maybe League of Legends.
I will never stop talking about gw2 spvp or League of Legends.

You know what’s not slowing down ? Gw2 spvp, haven’t seen anything like it since League of Legends.

:)