The content added in the fractured living story update STILL exists. You guys are merely complaining that you can’t get achievement points. Why does the content not count unless you’re getting achievement points?
Because that was not our goal or what we spent our time for. I consider achievements content too.
To illustrate it, do you remember the Giant Slayer achievement? Without that achievement, no one would even consider that Giants as a category of monsters. Without them, guides wouldn’t have been made, and people wouldn’t have made stragedies to get the ‘mission’ of killing 1.000 Giants done. No one would ever have killed even half that amount. In other words it would just have been a random mob. Now it’s more of a mission you can take on.
The only reason why people have strategies is because there’s a grand total of 3 giants that count towards the achievement. If there were more of them, they’d be a mob people might actually kill. Do you only kill mobs that have an achievement behind them? Do you stop killing mobs once you’ve gotten the achievement for them?
Where’d you get the bolts of damask? Thin air? I’ve been crafting mine every day since ascended armor came out, and I don’t even have one full set. So don’t tell me you aren’t buying bolts from the TP.
More than one account = more than one bolt per day. But that’s irrelevant… this thread, and your initial comment, was directed at the fact that the crafting materials (silk specifically) isn’t readily available in WvW, and that we were being forced to buy them from the TP in order to make ascended armor. I dispute this notion because everything I used to get my first 2 weapons and almost my entire first suit of armor came exclusively from WvW, and I had it all before they launched ascended armor because I knew it was coming. If anyone else wanted ascended armor that badly they could have done the same thing… I have so much silk and mithril I had to start a bank guild to hold onto it. It is very abundant in WvW if you just salvage your loot.
So, you have enough money to get a second account, get that account up to level 500 in an ascended armor craft, and then claim you’re not rich? Please. And you’d have to have more than 2 account to have 2 full sets. So you have at least 3 accounts. Tell me you’re not rich. PLEASE.
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Why do you have to buy the scraps? Salvage your loot for goodness sake. I’ve got 2 sets of ascended armor already and I don’t exactly have a ton of cash… You get everything you need by salvaging.
No you don’t.
I have leveled 4 crafts to 500, crafted several weapons and now 2 sets of armor. I’d love for you to tell me what I’ve had to buy from the TP.
Where’d you get the bolts of damask? Thin air? I’ve been crafting mine every day since ascended armor came out, and I don’t even have one full set. So don’t tell me you aren’t buying bolts from the TP.
The content added in the fractured living story update STILL exists. You guys are merely complaining that you can’t get achievement points. Why does the content not count unless you’re getting achievement points?
Why do you have to buy the scraps? Salvage your loot for goodness sake. I’ve got 2 sets of ascended armor already and I don’t exactly have a ton of cash… You get everything you need by salvaging.
No you don’t.
It’s only a good idea if you want to extract a +8 agony infusion or greater.
Till ascended weapons came out, Legendaries weren’t any better than a karma weapon you could easily obtain. Or an 80 silver exotic on the Trading post. Your point is invalid. Please try again.
Also, no you can’t buy ascended. You can, however, buy all the mats you need to make a full set on day one. That’s paying to win. You now have an advantage over players that cannot afford the gold, for whatever reason.
how do you buy the account bound mats?
Yeah, okay, you can’t buy the dragonite, empyreal, or bloodstone, but those aren’t time gated. You can get as many of those as you want (and many of us do) In fact, I have all I need to make two sets of armor, just from playing the game normally. You can certainly buy all the time gated material on the trading post, or at least, the final form of it (damask bolts, dreldrimor steel, and elonian leather squares)
err.. you can buy ascended weapon/armor ? i don’t think you could.
if you want to give example, pls be factual.
ok lets change the ascended to Legendaries.
player A buys gem, convert to gold, and purchase the Legendary.
player B work his sweat day and night farming everything and make his Legendary.how does that make player A win against player B. win in terms of what ? both have their Legendary in the end.
Till ascended weapons came out, Legendaries weren’t any better than a karma weapon you could easily obtain. Or an 80 silver exotic on the Trading post. Your point is invalid. Please try again.
Also, no you can’t buy ascended. You can, however, buy all the mats you need to make a full set on day one. That’s paying to win. You now have an advantage over players that cannot afford the gold, for whatever reason.
Until you realize that you still need to do the time gated stuff to level up your crafting skills high enough to actually make the ascended equipment in the first place. Whether or not you can purchase the time gated mats off of the trading post you still have to get a crafting skill to a high enough level to actually make the ascended gear. And since the Ascended Gear is bound to you, you can’t simply have someone else craft it for you.
I’m pretty sure I can get to 500 crafting in a few hours if I have money. And if I dont’ it’ll take alot more than a few hours.
You still need to do “something” yourself, but with money it is much easier right?
Note: With MONEY. Gold. Easily accessible in-game.
Then WHY is it time gated? Please explain that.
If you can use real world money to get a competitive advantage (and yes, getting ascended gear is a competitive advantage, otherwise, why does it exist), then it’s pay to win. It’s not as bad as other pay to win games, but that doesn’t mean it’s not. It’s not a binary state, you can have super grindy pay to win games, and games like GW2, where you get a minor competitive advantage. When exotics were the best in class, this wasn’t a big deal, because exotics were cheap. But ascended gear is time-gated. But you can bypass the time gated part with gold. So, people who can afford to grind, or want to spend real world money to avoid grind can skip over the time gated part, and get a complete set of ascended gear on day one. And so, we ask: why is ascended gear time gated? The answer is: to drive people to buy gems to convert to gold so they can skip the time gated part. And thus, GW2 is pay to win. This is also why ascended gear is ugly as sin, so that people buy transmutation crystals.
Pay to win means you pay to have access to things that cannot be acquired by any means except real world money. I’ll accept “pay to skip the legendary grind” but you can’t buy ascended armor off the trading post. You can’t skip the time-gated parts of ascended armor because there are a number of ingredients that are account bound and cannot be purchased.
Also, to whomever said that there’s obviously an issue since p2w keeps coming up: No. There’s an issue with people understanding what it means to pay to win.
You absolutely can skip the time gated part of ascended gear. You can buy the final form of the mat that requires the time gated mat off the trading post. Bolt of Damask, which needs the time gated silk string is absolutely available on the trading post. Your point is moot.
If you can use real world money to get a competitive advantage (and yes, getting ascended gear is a competitive advantage, otherwise, why does it exist), then it’s pay to win. It’s not as bad as other pay to win games, but that doesn’t mean it’s not. It’s not a binary state, you can have super grindy pay to win games, and games like GW2, where you get a minor competitive advantage. When exotics were the best in class, this wasn’t a big deal, because exotics were cheap. But ascended gear is time-gated. But you can bypass the time gated part with gold. So, people who can afford to grind, or want to spend real world money to avoid grind can skip over the time gated part, and get a complete set of ascended gear on day one. And so, we ask: why is ascended gear time gated? The answer is: to drive people to buy gems to convert to gold so they can skip the time gated part. And thus, GW2 is pay to win. This is also why ascended gear is ugly as sin, so that people buy transmutation crystals.
Frankly, being able to get around time gating by buying the mats on the TP seems to me to be pay to win.
Well, it say “any item” not, “any salvable item.” Question answered.
Ah, another “we’re annoyed Kiel won, so we’re going to make a thread about how she’s a big meanie” thread. What’s next? Asking for her long form birth certificate?
You don’t like what other people are saying so you’re going to dismiss it and attack the motives of the people posting? Classy.
And yet, you somehow managed to do the same thing. Contradiction?
Of course, if you haven’t lost it to one of the enemy servers, does it really matter if this guild’s claimed it?
To be fair to Anet, people complained about content being removed from Mad King’s Day. You can’t blame them for bringing everything from Wintersday back. You can, of course, blame them for not including the mats you need to make the wintersday minis.
I could come up with a way to make it non-crummy: gift 1 to friend, buy 25 at 40% off, only use on runes of divinity. 130 gems each costs 9.88g to get, divinity rune sells for 10.8g. net loss of only 70s. sorry, that’s as close as I can get.
unless…
does this also remove the soulbound and accountbound part of the item?
if so, then I’ll definitely buy 50 of these.
Not a chance. If it did, it’d be worth 10 times it’s price.
Why should they spend time making a Linux version when far, far more people play on windows, and that version still has bugs.
Oh yes, infusions, I had forgotten. But I did a quick check on the TP, and it looks like anything under a +8 infusion, it’s better to rebuy it than this thing.
Why would I pay 3 dollars to get the upgrade remover when I can get 19 gold for by trading it in, buying the most expensive rune (divinity, 11 gold) or sigil (generosity, 15 gold) and have 4-8 gold left over?
250 gems each, 5 for 1.1k, and 25 for 5k. 20 gold for 1. Seems way overpriced. Might as well just rebuy any upgrade, rather than use this. Anyone disagree?
Ah, another “we’re annoyed Kiel won, so we’re going to make a thread about how she’s a big meanie” thread. What’s next? Asking for her long form birth certificate?
The content still exists. You can still “do it all”. Or does it only count if there’s an achievement point behind it?
I don’t consider it griefing.
The people who get annoyed by this are the people who complain about every thing.
You won’t see any action against some thing for “noise pollution”. Especially when there is a volume slider if it isn’t some thing you like.
The people who are doing what is described in the OP are doing so to grief, therefore it is griefing regardless of what you think or whether or not it successfully griefs you specifically. Your opinion does not in any way affect their intent, and ill-intent is what people are punished for. There is no way anybody spamming a single note on auto-cast for hours on end in the middle of a crowd is doing so with good intentions, which makes me wonder if you even read the OP in the first place.
I found this magically thing that mutes every one doing that.
Walk away.
Right, leaving and letting griefers be fixes things.
No, no. You don’t understand. Their fun is way more important that your fun. Their ability to interrupt your game, and make you walk away is inviolate. Your ability to play your game, and do what you want is unimportant.
All the content introduced in fractal fortnight is STILL in the game. All you’re complaining about is 5 or 10 ap points. Let it go, allright?
Well, that’s time gated content working well, Anet.
I follow you. And I’m done. You guys can agree amongst yourselves that “fortnight” doesn’t mean 2 weeks, and can, in fact, mean any length of time. Have fun!
So, if fractal fortnight had said it was 2 weeks (like it did) and there was a countdown timer, all of you would’ve been perfectly happy with it?
Because sometimes content lasts four weeks. And since this is the end of the year, and there won’t be another patch for another month, it’s not unreasonable to think that they might leave in content to stretch it out and build up some goodwill. Because, due to Boss “Week” there was no guarantee that Fractal “Fortnight” meant anything other than “alliteration!”
You guys act like there was only one living story update that matters, boss week (which lasted 2 weeks anyways) and you ignore all the others, ie, every mid month update, which lasted 2 weeks. You ignore the “fortnight” thing, and dismiss it as if it’s completely meaningless. You talk about no content for a month, when we just got 1 living story update, AND Wintersday. and pretend that there’s enough content in fractured to last another 2 weeks. Oh, and by the way: all the content that was in fractured? Still in fractals. You can keep doing it.
Also, it’s a bit of the player’s responsibility to find out when a living story is ending, not go “I don’t know what fortnight means, how was I suppose to know it’d only last 2 weeks?”
as the ‘Fractured’ subforum will show, we desperately tried to ask them as to when it was ending, only to have them give us the ol’ cold shoulder the whole time.
It said “fortnight.” Patches are every 2 weeks. Fortnight means two weeks. What more do you want to know? (I will ignore people who reply that boss week was 2 weeks.)
Yes, yes. One time something last longer then is stated. So, naturally, that means that something that’s stated as last 2 weeks might last 3. Or 4. Or 8. Or the rest of time! You just can’t know! I mean, it’s not like Boss Week lasted two weeks, the standard length of time for a mid month addition to the living story, like, oh, say, fractal fortnight. You guys act like this is the first living story update, and there’s literally no way you could’ve possibly have guessed it’d only last 2 weeks, especially since you were never told, despite them saying it’d last two weeks in the title of the update.
Actually, the op’s idea is good. The only problem my group had was that we started at the spawn point, and lost a dolyak because the toys spawned on the other side. The rest of it was easy mode.
I don’t think the title of the living story update is “flavor text”. C’mon, fractals have either been 2 or 4 weeks long, with one, maybe 2 exceptions. Also, it’s a bit of the player’s responsibility to find out when a living story is ending, not go “I don’t know what fortnight means, how was I suppose to know it’d only last 2 weeks?”
This LS was a joke, what a genius invented that this will last only 1 week? 1 WEEK!? wtf don’t you think that is a waste of your work because not everybody could enjoyed it because not everybody is playing this game every week, oh my god, what is the purpose of such a short time span because I can’t think of anything.
The second thing is that there’s no kitten info how long it will last, why didn’t they put timer like with monthly, daily?
The second thing is that why there’s no kitten timer like with monthly and daily? how could I know it will last only 1 week since every LS before lasted 1 month?
It lasted 2 weeks. That’s what “fortnight” means.
There’s nothing wrong with profit. Corporations are people too.
I believe you’ll find, if you check, that Tyria’s not America, and thus, that doesn’t really apply.
“Because Evon Gnashblade’s the hero Lions Arch deserves, but not the one it needs right now.” “He’s a silent guardian. a watchful protector.” Mr. E
If Evon is Batman then Kiel must be Hawk Girl since she’s kitten LAAAAAAAAAAME
I never heard of Hawk Girl. Is she a real DC superhero?
Because he wouldn’t be messing around with fractals if he had won?
Nope. Evon would have just funded the research, and our Fractal would be mile above the Thaumanova one we have now. He’s too busy providing players awesome items, and defending Lion’s Arch from evil as his alter-ego Mister E.
Evon = Batman
Yes, I remember all the Batman comics where he stole people’s money. Evon: not the hero we need, but the hero we deserve. Also, he’s probably friends with Scarlet.
Ah Evon, always looking after Lion’s Arch. As is expected from a Hero like him.
Because he wouldn’t be messing around with fractals if he had won?
Please list “where” you need ascended items to progress in the game?
Yer it’s a lot and takes quite a lot of time to make.. but as their not required for anything atm, there is no rush to get them
If you don’t NEED it, why does it exist?
I know there’s no patch on the 24th, and I’m totally cool with that. You guys deserve to spend time with your families, and not squashing bugs. However, I do have a suggestion: can we get a server reboot anyways? No patch, just a reboot to fix stuff that’s been bugged, and stalled, like melandru on SoS currently. This won’t fix it permanently, but it’s better than waiting 3 or 4 weeks for a reboot.
Yay, FA’s coming off a silver league win that they got easily, after tanking to get into the silver league, is fighting SoS, and TC that have been fighting for their lives for the past 7 weeks, and are maybe a bit tired, and want to take a break. You keep shining on, FA. Wait till you have to fight tier 1 servers for 7 weeks, then we’ll see how well you do against TC and SoS.
just reset the fractal till you get swamp. And then invited people. And then be glad you haven’t done underground yet.
Look, as people have said, the rewards were always going to suck. If they were good, that’d destroy the leagues, as everyone would just transfer to blackgate before the season starts, then transfer back after it started to lock in their reward, and then who’d care how well their server did, they’d get BG’s rewards.
I honestly don’t know why the season would end before reset tomorrow. It’s almost certainly a typo. I’m not entirely sure it ends tomorrow, but I’m telling people it will, because I’d rather be wrong about that, then tell them Tuesday, and be wrong about that.
What data could they possibly get from 8 weeks of the league that they didn’t get from 7 months of RNG matching?
I would plan for Friday, and be happy if you’re wrong, rather than plan for Tuesday, and be upset when it ends on Friday.
I actually like Scarlet. In fact, I’ll love any character Tara Strong voices… even if it were Trahearne.
Wait, isn’t Winter-een-mas just the last few weeks of january?
I don’t think Ethan plays GW2. Tim Buckley said last year that the game is good, just not his preference. But don’t let that stop you from celebrating with us!
Trahearne with her voice would be infinitely better, because at least she’d give it some emotion, which is one of the major complaints about him.
Here’s what I think Anet thinks about new zones: we don’t really use the zones we have. Why make new ones, when most people stick to frostgorge, orr, queensdale, and Lion’s Arch?
Like I said, this year, we find out that Scarlet was the reason Tixx’s workshop went haywire last year.
This Wintersday, we find out that Scarlet is the reason why Tixx Workshop went crazy last year.