why wouldnt you use the moa on the tool belt skill on both? You just beat them both with your tool belt skill.
Also in a 1 vs1 rampage wins but in my teams experience Lich is better for team fights.
Lich insta-dies in a team fight partly due to the fact that CC spam works quite well vs its 1 pulsing stack of stability. It also doesn’t have the ability to res, stomp, CC spam people trying to res/stomp, nor does it have perma swiftness for kiting or chasing thigns that kite and it doesn’t have the reduced immob/cripple/chill durations.
Rampage would win for sure. Rampage is actually able to CC lich form because lich form only has 1 stack of stab, so 2 CCs will CC it and rampage has so many CCs, whereas lich can’t CC rampage. Rampage also has that 25% incoming damage reduction that lich form doesn’t.
First off to anyone who says this update made Rampage viable – that’s not true at all. Rampage was always the go-to elite for greatsword builds even before the patch (watch any of Rom’s streams pre-patch), the thing that was made viable was the greatsword build itself. This change in warrior meta was a combination of shoutbow being shut out as well as GS warriors being able to spec fully into Strength for a total of 50% damage increase and additional might while retaining the compulsory traits within the Defence and Discipline line.
Rampage was fine before the patch, strong enough to be taken over battle standard in a greatsword spec. Now it’s got this stupid 30% damage increase, 120s CD and CD on all skills within it.
Hey remember when NA had no chance against EU in the first WTS? How’d that go anyway?
Hey remember when Abjured were gonna win the most recent (and therefore most relevant) WTS? How’d that go anyway?
They lost.. lol. Last WTS isn’t relevant, neither is the 1st one. Was merely pointing out to the people who think EU is always better than NA that its not true.
So you gauge the better region by picking one team from each region? Pick any more than 1 (top 2/3/4/5) and I think you’ll find you get different results.
For good or bad, Gw2 is too fast paced to really say all of the plays and all the interactions occurring. The viewer must have understanding on how mechanics work beforehand in order to enjoy the game play. If you don’t know the skills being used it is really easy for the uneducated viewer to just see skills being spammed.
Are you insane? Yes let’s the treb to hit an area that’s guarenteed to hit almost every player and is already filled with your own NPCs, thus making it impossible for even 5 people to finish the lord. On top of this it rips stability before knocking down, making it impossible for anyone to finish the lord without elixir S or mist form.
The point of the treb isn’t to defend lord, it’s to insta-kill doorbreakers and their escorts.
So basicly, every team has been running atleast 1 ele (mostly 2 eles during cele meta) for the longest time. Now they are finally utilizing Mesmers and suddenly everyones starting to cry. I love it.
1. High damage, high cc, perma stab, perma swiftness, 25% reduced damage, able to stomp/res, 50k hp Rampage on a 120s cd.
2. One-shot mesmers that are unavoidable due to guaranteed instant stun during other casts
3. Rampage.
It has always been an instant cast skill. All mantras have been an insta cast skill since the beginning of time itself and youre just now complaining about it?
It wasn’t a guaranteed stun before the patch. Can dodge a shatter while dazed but not while stunned.
Yes because celestial d/d deals 12k instant damage that is unavoidable because of guarenteed stun with a mantra that can be casted during other skills.
Im getting kind of tired of them being immune to everything, the bunker, dps, condition damage, spike, point capturer and on and on and on at the same time.
Show me an ele build that can spike like a mesmer and bunker at the same time.
celestial DD, go for that 7k fire grab and 2k+ burning..
Such burst. When mesmer can one shot that celestial dd ele, which has 17K hp.
with 4 buttons, you mean.
also, and? so a zerker mesmer does more damage then fire grab with full burst, so 7k fire grab on build as tanky as celestial ele is justified?
Fire grab actually requires some set up, but that’s not the point. It’s ridiculous to say celestial d/d ele does the same damage as a zerker mesmer.
since when fire grab requires set up, you having trouble apply that burning as an ele?
You’re totally right, its hitbox is so large you can just spam the skill and land it properly without even thinking.
bro, try final thrust, now that’s the real no hit box at all.
and no, fire grab is no more difficult to land then mesmer gs2
It can also be used 3x as often as fire grab.
Speaking of which, mesmer shatter can be used 4x as often as fire grab,
and? why you keep making pointless argument that has nothing to do with the topic…
And you keep asking pointless questions that has nothing to do with the topic…I said firegrab landing difficulty wasn’t the point. I also stated that I do think ele needs to be toned down, but people also need to stop exaggerating and saying things like d/d ele ele hits as hard as zerker mesmer and is tanky as a bunker guard. It’s just ridiculous.
i asked no question, going in burning speed + fire grab = fast 10k burst that numbers equal to all most zerker burst.
Anyone who tanks burning speed and fire grab need to l2p.
you do know blink exist.
and you can easily bait dodges with ring of fire.
not to mention burning speed is on really low CD
Also how on earth can you not dodge fire grab right after burning speed?
Im getting kind of tired of them being immune to everything, the bunker, dps, condition damage, spike, point capturer and on and on and on at the same time.
Show me an ele build that can spike like a mesmer and bunker at the same time.
celestial DD, go for that 7k fire grab and 2k+ burning..
Such burst. When mesmer can one shot that celestial dd ele, which has 17K hp.
with 4 buttons, you mean.
also, and? so a zerker mesmer does more damage then fire grab with full burst, so 7k fire grab on build as tanky as celestial ele is justified?
Fire grab actually requires some set up, but that’s not the point. It’s ridiculous to say celestial d/d ele does the same damage as a zerker mesmer.
since when fire grab requires set up, you having trouble apply that burning as an ele?
You’re totally right, its hitbox is so large you can just spam the skill and land it properly without even thinking.
bro, try final thrust, now that’s the real no hit box at all.
and no, fire grab is no more difficult to land then mesmer gs2
It can also be used 3x as often as fire grab.
Speaking of which, mesmer shatter can be used 4x as often as fire grab,
and? why you keep making pointless argument that has nothing to do with the topic…
And you keep asking pointless questions that has nothing to do with the topic…I said firegrab landing difficulty wasn’t the point. I also stated that I do think ele needs to be toned down, but people also need to stop exaggerating and saying things like d/d ele ele hits as hard as zerker mesmer and is tanky as a bunker guard. It’s just ridiculous.
i asked no question, going in burning speed + fire grab = fast 10k burst that numbers equal to all most zerker burst.
Anyone who tanks burning speed and fire grab need to l2p.
you do know blink exist.
So? Still need to start the animation before blinking.
Im getting kind of tired of them being immune to everything, the bunker, dps, condition damage, spike, point capturer and on and on and on at the same time.
Show me an ele build that can spike like a mesmer and bunker at the same time.
celestial DD, go for that 7k fire grab and 2k+ burning..
Such burst. When mesmer can one shot that celestial dd ele, which has 17K hp.
with 4 buttons, you mean.
also, and? so a zerker mesmer does more damage then fire grab with full burst, so 7k fire grab on build as tanky as celestial ele is justified?
Fire grab actually requires some set up, but that’s not the point. It’s ridiculous to say celestial d/d ele does the same damage as a zerker mesmer.
since when fire grab requires set up, you having trouble apply that burning as an ele?
You’re totally right, its hitbox is so large you can just spam the skill and land it properly without even thinking.
bro, try final thrust, now that’s the real no hit box at all.
and no, fire grab is no more difficult to land then mesmer gs2
It can also be used 3x as often as fire grab.
Speaking of which, mesmer shatter can be used 4x as often as fire grab,
and? why you keep making pointless argument that has nothing to do with the topic…
And you keep asking pointless questions that has nothing to do with the topic…I said firegrab landing difficulty wasn’t the point. I also stated that I do think ele needs to be toned down, but people also need to stop exaggerating and saying things like d/d ele ele hits as hard as zerker mesmer and is tanky as a bunker guard. It’s just ridiculous.
i asked no question, going in burning speed + fire grab = fast 10k burst that numbers equal to all most zerker burst.
Anyone who tanks burning speed and fire grab need to l2p.
Im getting kind of tired of them being immune to everything, the bunker, dps, condition damage, spike, point capturer and on and on and on at the same time.
Show me an ele build that can spike like a mesmer and bunker at the same time.
celestial DD, go for that 7k fire grab and 2k+ burning..
Such burst. When mesmer can one shot that celestial dd ele, which has 17K hp.
with 4 buttons, you mean.
also, and? so a zerker mesmer does more damage then fire grab with full burst, so 7k fire grab on build as tanky as celestial ele is justified?
Fire grab actually requires some set up, but that’s not the point. It’s ridiculous to say celestial d/d ele does the same damage as a zerker mesmer.
since when fire grab requires set up, you having trouble apply that burning as an ele?
You’re totally right, its hitbox is so large you can just spam the skill and land it properly without even thinking.
bro, try final thrust, now that’s the real no hit box at all.
and no, fire grab is no more difficult to land then mesmer gs2
It can also be used 3x as often as fire grab.
Speaking of which, mesmer shatter can be used 4x as often as fire grab,
Im getting kind of tired of them being immune to everything, the bunker, dps, condition damage, spike, point capturer and on and on and on at the same time.
Show me an ele build that can spike like a mesmer and bunker at the same time.
They dont need to, if they can do 80% of everything with a single build, they are still op.
S/D thief can do 80% of everything with a single build too, I guess that makes that OP as well.
Im getting kind of tired of them being immune to everything, the bunker, dps, condition damage, spike, point capturer and on and on and on at the same time.
Show me an ele build that can spike like a mesmer and bunker at the same time.
Can I pick 3 of the same class if I have 3 characters for it?
Pick your top three classes
so answer is NO.
I only have one top class, this needs to be fixed.
Then go fix it and learn 2 more classes, stop being lazy.
I don’t believe in playing multiple classes. You’re more prone to excelling in one, then choosing multiple and trying to excel in all those at once. It’s not laziness, it’s being smart.
Then it doesn’t matter which other 2 classes you choose since you’re so good at that class you’ll beat everyone else who multiclasses with that one class.
Make blind on shatter grandmaster and swap it with confusion on interrupt. This will force the mesmer to choose between personal defense (blind), utility (mantra) or dps (clone on dodge).
