Guild Wars 2

Nikkinella.8254:

The center island should be replaced with an underground missile silo. It will only be accessible when you have the outmanned buff. It will take 200 supplies to build a tactical nuke. It can target any location on the map. once the coordinates are set in, there’s a countdown and the nuke will launch. Any area it is launched at will instantly be flipped and belong to the team that launched it and a 30 minute poison cloud will hang around the area that will damage any enemy for 1500 a tick. Any enemy who is in the area that the nuke impacts will instantly be killed, no down state just dead. Since Anet seems so dead set on making siege even more overpowered than it already is with these ridiculous masteries. I’ve taken it to the extreme. And then we can wait for the traitline “nuke mastery” which will let you blow up an entire map and flip it.

I quite like this idea but would make it a map-flipper full stop. Also increase the supply needed to 500 (200 hundred supply would be too easy for a group of 20 to initiate the strike). Not a nuke but nuke like, the ‘detonation’ would need to be a wave that flows out from the center island killing everything (no matter which server triggers it, so it is a suicide mission unless you portal to the immune areas). Citadel and the BL waypoints would be ‘immune’ but the map would be unplayable for 30 minutes (the poison cloud or toxic ground idea would work).

I think the max PPT on a BL map is 145 (290 for 30 minutes)? That’s pretty paltry – so maybe quadruple points for that 30 minute period? So the server that pulls off the Flip gets a guaranteed 1160 points. At the end of the 30 minutes, all assets become neutral and up for grabs. Effectively a way of resetting a map!

The NPCs on the island would need to be fairly powerful – the blob that needs to turn them would need to work hard to do it. And once the device is built, it would need to take a significant time to be channeled. Channeling should pause as long as the island is contested (so, if an opposing player gets into the circle during the channeling period).

Wemil.7052:

cazza.6078:

I guess this is how Vizunah felt last friday when they steamrolled you for the ninth time in a row.

this is what I enjoy someone try to counter comment me when they don’t now kitten they are talking about.

a) we owned them for 5 days ticked +20k more.

b) they had to call in everyone and more.

c) they played kitten they just had 100 blob on every map.

we are just 30-40 guys and your same numbers your just rage quiting so yh nothing to do about it np.

Wemil, you’re priceless! Please don’t ever change!

Fuzzion.2504:

I think everyone agrees that anything would be better than that island.

Why not just put a lvl 240 Dragon there that respawns only once every 36 hours and has a chance to drop precursors

Because there would be a massive influx of PVE stawarts coming in, increasing queue times (and hence garnering complaints from WvW stalwarts hereabouts).

And of course, the PvE peeps would start cry whining on here because the WvW players would be killing them in their droves as they tried to get to the dragon – since it is PvP after all. Yea – loot bags for all!

CorliCorso.6254:

So do you SFR guys still hate pugs, then?

Corli – we in Desolation call them NAPs now (Non-Aligned Players)

If you want to increase the number of pve-ers in WvW, all Anet have to do is announce that the chance of getting a precursor is significantly increased in WvW in comparison to the PVE world.. there you go – instant increase in the number of PVE players.

CorliCorso.6254:

SFR blobs tactically amalgamated groups

I so love that definition that from now on, I’m going to promote TAG as an alternative to BLOB. I can see it now:
Deso 1: “Ok .. Tag up!”;
Deso 2: “Erm .. do you mean Tag? or TAG?”
Deso 1: “What? I mean Tag, FFS!”
Deso 2: " Yeah … but WHICH tag?"

It’s a matter of maths, Guys! It’s like this: there’s only so much loot in the GW2 universe. Once the Queen’s Jubilee patch came out and they introduced the Crown Pavilion Farming Frenzy, which, as you may have noticed, gives insane amounts of loot (I have flushed tons of greens into the Mystic Toilet), balance is restored to the Universe by a proportional reduction in WvW and other loot (if you think it’s bad in WvW, try Orr [that’s the place which attracted all those PvE-ers when GW2 first came out]).

Don’t worry though .. as someone said in another thread around here somewhere, chill.. it’s only temporary. The Queen’s Jubilee will end soon enough and all will return to normal.

Oh wait .. Living Story gets updated every 2 weeks!

Halo.8976:

Press Z to make it stop.

Ahhh! Of course! Well of Corruption! Yep that should work!

Just in case you’re wondering .. I’m a Necro and have WoC mapped to Z :-)

Why not add Torment to Entangle?
The skill traps up to five enemies around the user with destructible roots which cause the following effects every 1.5 seconds:

Direct damage
1.5 sec Immobilize
8 sec bleeding, resulting in 14 stacks of bleeding, allowing the stacks to reach a max size of 6.
On release, 2 seconds of Torment.

Note – torment is applied on release.. and should be unblockable.

selan.8354:

u gotta see it this way:
wvw=broke, no gold, no weaponskins, no nothing, u spend a lot of money on food,siege, upgrades.
now pve brings a patch where u actually can make money, get mats, get skins… guess whats in my head right now:

“soo i farm 2 more hours and i can buy more superior siege, upgrades and have a pretty weapon”

wiiiiin! :-)

And then you go to WvW with all your new skins and gold and siege…. except everyone else is also back there farming. But that’s cool… you can PvD and win the match-up for your server!

Don’t get me wrong – I have nothing against PvE .. but give me some breathing space!

style.6173:

Zacchary.6183:

Oh my god. It JUST came out. People are checking it out. Calm down bro.

This^^

bottom line is that people will play what they want. I spend most of my time in WvW but I also wanted to check out the new content yesterday. Get over it OP.

There are 2 lines in my post which give a clue that it was as much tongue in cheek as it was serious. I’ll leave you to work out what those are.

And as for the point that Zacchary made.. yes, I know it only JUST came out. 2 weeks after Cutthroat Politics came out, which also came out JUST 2 weeks after Bazaar came it! The point I was trying to make, is that the LS is going to be JUST coming out once every 2 weeks. If you can’t see the significance of that, then why the kitten are you in WvW at all?

Enough already! The Living Story 2 week cycle is killing WvW! This one is the worst yet.. everyone is jumping in because of the farming potential. FFS! Even I am forced (yea – I know – no-one is forcing me but come on!) to PvE to get the massive amount of loot on offer.

No-one seems to be in the BLs yesterday Prime Time .. they were all at the Queen’s Jubilee.

Stop with the 2 week cycle, and so making us panic about how much time we have to get the rewards and achievements. Spread back out to monthly updates so we can enjoy the real game here.

One thing I will say for it though – those Pugs certainly seem to be able to stick to the Commander’s tag!

… when you accidentally sell Dawn to a merchant as you’re emptying out your bags (stressed because your commander is counting down to run .. ’Leaving in 3… 2 … 1…")

… when you work on your WvW strategies by telling them as stories to your 6 yr old for bed-time. And you always win else he cries.. (this one is true..)

Seresh.8045:

Furiousbeard.7602:

Seresh.8045:

when you’re walking home from the shops with your wife and find yourself circle strafing her and watching out for incoming trying to gank your supply yak.

also….when you refer to your wife as your supply yak….that didn’t end well

Haha

Was she also carrying all the groceries while you ran around her to?

Well, how else was I supposed to CC incoming if I couldn’t equip my staff due to hauling groceries??…..duh!

fyi: as it turns out I was politely informed that this is not actually a valid excuse for refusing to help carry stuff. I’m paraphrasing here but she said something like, “If you don’t stop being a kitten and help me I will connect your PSU to your nuts whilst you sleep.”

woman are such gentle creatures.

Seresh! You are my Hero! And, Gods!, I feel for you!

What little I saw of WvW this week (had family-in-law over from Holland so pretty much day time or very late evening participation if at all from me), was an eye opener for me. A lot of fun since (contrary to what everyone is saying here) I found the blobbing almost tolerable. Skill lag was still bad but no where near as bad as when we are up against Vizunah.

Surprised by Piken coming third – I think you seem to have suffered badly this week – I honestly thought you should have been able to handle Abbadon. Pray to whatever Gods you have you don’t get VS (though I suspect it’ll be us Desonians who will suffer that fate)!

As for Abbadon – hmm .. interesting server. I love the fact that we get to play against some lower tier servers – we get a lot of very good experience and it really does improve the overall play for our guilds.

So – on to Desolation – man, we really learnt to handle VS. We may never beat them but by the Gods, we certainly know how to deal with them.

And no – I don’t mean that we blob and night-cap! We have adapted to handle those very situations, and we do it very well. To all Desonians: Well done this (and last)week! Get ready for VS :-)

To Piken and Abbadon: Thank you very much for what was on the whole a great match-up. May the Anet RNG God be kind to you in your next match-up. Good luck and good job!

Thanks very much Blix!

The recent addition of blast finisher to Warhorn #5 (CotW) was a great buff imho. Was playing PvE this morning and was able to solo a champ running a hybrid build GS/Axe-Warhorn, and Healing Spring as my healing skill. Note that this build (sorry – old bloke so can’t remember what the build I use is other than is high-ish toughness, and I’m morphing to Celestial Armour) has fairly low Healing power. Using a drake for a pet, I was getting 2 blasts and a leap in the space of 1 HS activation. My HP is around 19 – 20K.

My question is – how do I calculate the area heal I can expect for a blast finish on HS? I assume it is depend on the Healing Power I have (let’s assume 320 for the sake of the calculation)?

Thanks..

Zinthros.6589:

a chance to get supply back when you use it!

I read that as you, the player, could find that after you use (10 – 15 max atm), could then get a refund of x supply back. This doesn’t mean that a keep or towers max supply (1700, etc) is going to change. You as Commander, will still have an idea of what your minimum supply is – just that when supply is used, there is a small (and it will be small – this is Anet, after all), amount of supply refunded. It could mean that extra shot of completing the AC/Cata/Ballista/whatever you are building being built that bit quicker. Exactly how is that a bad thing?

As to priorities, bug fixes, etc .. that is all moot! Yes .. we’d all prefer bug fixes done on outstanding bugs. Who’s to say we won’t? They never publicise bug-fixes in the next patch fan-fare, as far as I recall. We all know that they highlight the PvE kitten and then when the patch is released, the notes tell us what they’ve done to balance stuff (usually nerf my 2 characters somehow).

I say Chill and wait for the release notes proper.

EFWinters.5421:

Bloodwort MacFangho.4638:

EFWinters.5421:

Couple this with their triple health bar …

Sadly, no longer the case since last patch! Oh woe is me! And I’d just discovered our only escape mechanism .. now gone (jump over that cliff and pop DS)!

Life Force now inextricably linked to HP. Any damage we take while in DS overspills into our HP .. and no heal while in DS. So now we go into DS to sustain and it don’t work..

If you think jumping off a cliff and popping DS is a viable escape mechanism throughout WvW you must be picking where you fight very carefully. Beyond that I don’t quite understand your post. What the ONLY point you were trying to make that DS + jump off a cliff doesn’t work anymore?

No .. I don’t think that because Necros have bugger all escape mechanisms, unless specifically traited to escape fights. I was aiming for a bit of light humour while correcting you on the point that whereas before the latest patch, a Necro had 2 distinct health bars – our HP and our DS Life Force, and these were effectively separately maintained, post patch, they are linked. If the damage we take in DS is greater than our LF, we now lose HP with the overspill. Our survivability is, hence, nerfed.

If you still don’t understand what I am driving at, then you are so convinced of your own arguments that it isn’t worth discussing further.

EFWinters.5421:

Couple this with their triple health bar …

Sadly, no longer the case since last patch! Oh woe is me! And I’d just discovered our only escape mechanism .. now gone (jump over that cliff and pop DS)!

Life Force now inextricably linked to HP. Any damage we take while in DS overspills into our HP .. and no heal while in DS. So now we go into DS to sustain and it don’t work..

Straegen.2938:

Bloodwort MacFangho.4638:

I don’t understand why it would be considered a bug for a Bird pet to be able to get at anyone on a wall! It’s a BIRD, FFS! It should be a PoP for a BIRD to FLY to the top of the wall!

Not having a go at you, Kinky .. just one my my favourite rants.

Tyria could have a high gravity or maybe the air is thinner preventing birds from achieving high flight. I am sure some highly educated Asuran could squawk out a plausible reason.

Pah! Trust an Asuran to blame gravity for their height problem!

Best tip I can give – you are guaranteed 1st place if you are the only one in the race..
I came 1st this morning .. job done!

KinkyWarrior.1879:

It’s not always using ‘Guard’ I was targeting an oil on SW SM when my Aptly named owl, ‘Hooters’ went up on the wall and started clawing out eyes. No guard skil lwasused… he just went all 90 degrees and flew up there :P

I don’t understand why it would be considered a bug for a Bird pet to be able to get at anyone on a wall! It’s a BIRD, FFS! It should be a PoP for a BIRD to FLY to the top of the wall!

Not having a go at you, Kinky .. just one my my favourite rants.

Forzani.2584:

Many good answers. The most basic answer ? It’s fun…..and why else would you play a game if you weren’t enjoying it?

Spot on!
And besides (also bringing it back into context), whereas the Ranger excels as Solo Roamer (and (x<=5)-man team member), in a zerg, a Ranger is slightly less than useful [ducks under the hail of abuse].

During prime time, I run Necro with my Guild on raids because that’s how I best contribute to a 15 to 20 main group. But my early morning runs are as a Ranger – killings as many Yaks, and flipping as many Camps and Sentries as I can. I’ll also hit on gates to distract the oppo zerg, scout for my server commander and generally be a pain in the kitten .

Speaking of which, this morning at Greenlake, our 8 man team was hassled by a Thief as we tried to take out Greenlake Tower (perfectly valid example :-) – he died a lot but re-spawned and came back at us enough times to slow us down significantly. If he’d had the support of just a few more colleagues, they would have stopped us. The s.o.b. (please note admiration) even snuck in the tower before we capped it and nearly got overlooked.

Charak.9761:

Shift from DX9 to DX11.

its 2013 Anet, T_T

Yup – that would work: kill the game for all those players with non-DX11 Graphics cards and the map queues will shrink immediately.

AndrewSX.3794:

—Snipped well explained reasoning —

No thanks.

Spot on – capping would impact Server community – the pressure on WvW focused Guilds to switch servers would increase exponentially. Furthermore, server-switching only moves the problem from server to server since the WvW population is fairly constant now (I would guess). That would then start a call for more servers to cater to the queuing problem.

The only cost effective way to deal with the Skill lag is to improve the server hardware to cope with with the issue if code optimisation proves to be impossible for Anet’s developers!

It is true that a Ranger is never going to get anything like the loot bags a necro, ele warrior or guardian is going to pick up in ZvZ encounters. But my Guild actively encourages our Rangers. Our Rangers provide the team (15 to 20 Guild Raid most nights) with Entangle, Water fields and outer edge harassment.

The strength of the Ranger for a Guild party is clearly as a member of a Havoc group: flipping camps, killing sentries, distracting the oppo zergs by trolling keeps and towers. If, as a Ranger, you feel unloved in WvW, then clearly, you belong to the wrong Guild.

SiegHawk.7981:

#Can i have a cupcake?

Grotesque is [EXG]. You want cupcakes? Then you gotta come to the Candy Shop! :-)

Curtis Johnson.8456:

Surbrus.6942:

Also, Petrified is the best Box o’ Fun ability… maybe if we could get a “Box o’ Petrified” more people would by them, even with the massive positive externalities involved.

You know the owner of the box of fun can set it to only petrify?

Double-interact with the box to get yourself an ‘adjuster’.

Now if you could make it so that in WvW, any player from an opposing server would be hit by petrify if they ran past the Box, then at least these would be useful!

Croustibat.1304:

amazing lag in VIZ BL tonight.
Raid off for us, its unplayble tbh..
At least, thanks to déso for the fights we had against you, Vizunah well.. bring more ppl please.

I’ve been truly impressed by Augury’s performance during this match-up! After weeks of having to face Vizunah (with the occasional break to face Elona), when I saw we had Vizunah again, I could have slit my wrists. But the open field battles and the tactical play we’re getting from AR has been eye-opening.

The battles around Bay on Viz BL last night was a case in point. AR blob coming – going, coming back and we’re like: “WTF!” – then it dawned on us .. let us break down the doors and take the damage from Viz zerg then they’d come in and clean up! LOL! The 3 way battles were the best fun .. or would have been if I could have moved, let alone spam 1.

I doff my hood to you, AR! And thanks for the loot bags, Viz! Please stop sending in upscaled Pugs, by the way .. the heavy loot bags are much more lucrative.

PS: The Skill lag was horrendous. Spotted Magnetron in map chat: “That’s it! Had enough! I’m gonna start playing Runescape!” I LOL’d!

The skil lag I’m experiencing is really beginning to get me down – and I’m wondering now if upgrading my PC will make any difference. I would appreciate some feedback on a new build to see if I can improve on things.

My current PC is fine for practically everything I do – work or social. It’s only GW2 that I see problems occurring. It’s a Core2 Duo 3.0 GHz E6850 – 6GB RAM with 500GB HDD and a Radeon HD 3870. I run the game at lowest graphics. As soon as I hit the big Vizunah zerg (and if server 3 is also in the mix) I may as well give up. I’ll just stand there and spam as much as I can until I’m defeated.

So I’m thinking that I should go for an i5 3.4GHz, a 240GB SSD, and 1TB second HDD. Upgrade the GPU to the AMD Radeon 7970. Now, that should be able to handle big crowds and still have high graphics settings.

However, if the skill lag is server related.. then I will be wasting my money. I’m worried that Anet are using virtual servers, and that the technology just doesn’t cut it. Hell, I don’t know.. I do know that this can’t go on though.

LOL – It was Augury Rock, Mag – not Kodash (skill lag was so bad, we are now suffering timeshifts). True though .. I needed to run and couldn’t move when we got hit in Garri later on..

This has been an interesting thread – in that there have been a number of interesting suggestions made by a number of rangers. There has also been a lot of (understandable) negativity about the effort. But bear this in mind:

The devs do read these threads .. they’d be crazy not to. I’m head of development in a consumer product company and no matter how convinced I am that the product we sell is perfect just as it is, I will always read what our customers have to say about it. Why? Because, like any good ‘daddy’ I want to know how my ‘child’ is doing! If I get a lot of criticism, it will hurt my feelings and I may withdraw into my shell – but – it’ll make me think.

I also get those moments where I think"Hey! Wow! That could work!" I may not be able to do anything about it straight away – but it will get into my TODO list – and when I get a chance, it’ll float.

The point I’m trying to make here is that none of these ideas are wasted! Even the crazy ideas, the wishful thinking ideas may trigger off a sequence of ideas with the developers that will give us something awesome someday.

I don’t for one second believe that the devs hate us Rangers (they may hate our whining – but hell – there are times I wish we didn’t have customers! [joke, dear Customers who are our Gods!]). I honestly believe that they just haven’t got their heads around what we are yet. So we go on letting them know what we are or aspire to be – and hope that eventually inspires them.

So – in an effort to do just that .. here are my 3:

• Pets become stow-able and any damage coefficient they have pass on to the Ranger (I like the idea of pets only coming out if BM trait has points). I love Poekie (jaguar) and Sir Francis (you really need to be told??) but sometimes I just don’t want them cluttering my feet.
• Greatsword 3 skill, MAUL, becomes a blast finisher! I don’t want to have to rely on my pet, FFS!
• New Weapon: The QuarterStaff – yes, I know there are loads of bugs that can take priority .. but I just wanna be a true Ranger [think Babylon 5]!

You’ll get 140 for power, precision, condition damage, toughness, Vitality, and healing. 18% MF and 19% Crit Damage.

Actually looks quite nice – be interested to see what you can come up with, Xsorus!

(should add .. this is armour only – no trinkets)

Keroro.8401:

Okay so today I was doing the JP in EB; and as everyone knows there pretty much an unspoken rule that you don’t attack other realm people doing the same JP as you are trying to get to the same goal.

This keeps coming up (2 threads in first page) every time Anet put some achievement in WvW (a PvP zone?). Why don’t you just go buy the invulnerability backpiece off the NPC in SM (EB BL)?

He’s on the same floor as the Armour Repair guy (could be wrong since I’m a WvW player not a PVEer), and he sells you the ‘White Flag’ backpiece for 5 gold and 100 BoH. You become immune to player damage in the OS. There ya go – happy hunting..

Rock.7324:

Peeps,

I’m on a roll today with questions, and I’m sorry if I’m bothering , but trying to learn as fast as I can so I gotta ask =D

Who desides who will be the commanders? How does that work?
I’ve been online the past few days playing mostly WvW and I am yet to see the same 2 commanders… It’s always different. Yday I was with a person called Kodah or something like that, the day before with another dude, the day before that with another… it’s not that I mind, all of them have different strategies so I learn alot, but I’m just curious as to how that works.

HI Rock – don’t sweat it .. I had the same problem and question when I first started doing WvW. It boils down to who has 100G to buy the Commander tag. Once someone has that, there’s nothing to stop him/her putting the tag up and leading everyone in a merry dance around the BL :-).

However … more often than not, commanders are dedicated Wuvvers that buy the tag because they want to get involved in the Server community and achieve success for their Guild. Often, a Guild will give a player the 100G to buy the tag.

IN terms of putting the tag on – when the need arises, the hero rises to the occasion :-) A good commander assesses the situation and will lead if need be.

As to good commanders – well, that’s as much experience as not – on Desolation we are lucky in that we have a great many good solid commanders. I’ll name one for you – Candy Fluxx – [CS} Guild leader and commander extra-ordinaire! So good, he even has a Vizunah wannabe :-)

There should be different classifications of ‘commander’ – PvE and WvWvW.
The PvE commander: just as now – buy it for 100g or whatever – cost is immaterial – it is simply an affectation that someone wants to make them feel special. Yup – useful for PvE stuff .. like guild missions or whatever. No biggie as far as I’m concerned but is ( sorry – can be) disastrous in WvWvW [ ever been in a group on WuvWuv and found yourself following a PvEer who decides to put on their tag so they feel special in WvWvW?]. So .. can’t be used in WvWvW

The WvWvW commander – which can only be acquired by a GUILD and allocated to a GUILD officer. Only useable on WvWvW. Needs to be acquired by gold and influence. If the commander decides to leave the guild, the tag stays behnd and can be re-allocated. See where I’m going with this?

Wow! That didn’t last long then, the friendly atmosphere, I mean. And it isn’t Deso nor VS that’s got the problem.

Seems to me that we’re stuck with each other for the next 7 days, and we on Deso will do what we always do. We’ll deal with the other server strategies in the best way we can!

No one is invincible all the time! And whether it is the organised VS Zerg or the multitude of RS ACs – Deso will cope with it and collect those loot bags.

My sincerest thanks in advance!

Skady.5916:

For the love of god, ANET, please DO NOT remove pull from axe offhand.

Thanks!

+1 Love the pull..
In WvW: LB/Sword-Axe combo..

• Axe 4 – Pull in – switch to LB
• LB 4 – push away
• LB 2 – wear him down – switch back to Sword
• SW 1 – finish him off

You gotta love it!

GuardianOMS.8067:

Nice recruitment thread, you red coat. You might enjoy this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10Ft7TZthuM

Didn’t start out as a recruitment thread .. just couldn’t resist including the Deso reference :-) I should go to great pains to point out that Desolation is an EU international server comprised of many EU countries and not specifically UK :-)

Excellent video, BTW – brought real tears to my eyes! I take it the colonial members of the Redcoats were from Jacksonville, FL?

To all citizens of the USA, from a British WvWvWer – Happy Independence Day!
I, for one, am glad that our two ‘servers’ have been able to put the past to rest in friendly co-operations.. and can assure you that all is forgiven for the transgressions of the late 1770’s!

If ever you decide that you’ve had enough of this independence lark, we in the United Kingdom would be more than happy to accept you back in the fold! Desolation is an excellent server that could use a buff in its night force!

You will, of course, have to pay your back taxes, and the fine for the malicious destruction of several cases of excellent tea….

Best Regards ..

danlarusso.2790:

Same Situation for us Kodashians, Magnetron.

Oh Lord! I read this and had this vision of a zerg of dark haired celeb Armenians coming full tilt at me! Thanks for that, danlarusso! :-)

Agree that it can’t be much fun for you either, though! I’ve enjoyed most if not all the fights we’ve had with the Karda.. erm.. Kodashian mobs!

Axle.5182:

Good fun on Deso bl tonight [CS] under Candy had things under control …

Ah! Good times! Good times!
Candy was doing the Sugar Rush Rap on TS! I can’t wait for the Jerk Chicken Run!

SirDrygan.1823:

I did not complete Halloween, not did I complete Wintersday or SAB…… the world did not crumble nor did it turn into a desolated wasteland nor did a zombie horde wipe out 90% of the population.

Clearly, you don’t play on EU Desolation server!

majos.8503:

I’d recomend to Deso of 1 or 2 weeks without play WvW, so you will drop lot of rank and maybe you can get out of Viz… Is the only thing that i think could help you…

The problem is we love the game too much and have way too much pride in our server to stay off for 2 weeks. Besides .. what difference would that make? Bear in mind we are ranked 7th .. that’s tier 3 .. and we still get the Ranks 1 and 3 from tier 1 to play!

Thanks to all who acknowledge the strengths of the Deso players.. LOL .. we kind of have to be!

zerospin.8604:

Skill 3 should be rocket boots that can shoot you towards a keep gate.

I’m OK with this idea as long as the Ranger Skill 3 has my pet dragging me to the keep gate while rezzing me.
Yup – that would work nicely for me!

Ray.3780:

How hilarious would a knockback on the way out and pull on the way back be though ?! haha, pushing them around like a ragdoll

Actually – I would love this in WvW – particularly to interrupt an enemy about to stomp an ally.

Dayra.7405:

Valid tactic that anyone with some spare diamonds should use or cheating?

Perfectly valid tactic. With the bonus that Server C benefits from an influx of a guild, who might decide to stay after the match-up because they enjoyed the freedom of getting on without queues.

Wot Candy said! A surprisingly fun week – both servers played it (mostly) straight, and Deso did some magical stuff. Some phenomenal commanding from our regulars saw us dominate more often than not in EB and Deso BL at some weird times of the day. Waking up yesterday to see the home BL a solid red brought tears of joy to my eyes! :-)

I don’t understand how it is cheating, or bullying for that matter. It makes sound common sense, even when it is the 2 strongest against the weakest.

It’s happening all the time in WvWvW – even when it isn’t intended. The very fact that there are 3 servers involved. If it wasn’t like that, the weakest server would never have an opportunity to get points.

Have you ever been involved in a 3-way where the 2nd strongest is beating down on Strongest server’s Keep’s front door while the the weakest server sneaks in through the back door and caps? Best feeling in the world! Is it double teaming? Hell yea! Was it intended? Of course not!