Guild Wars 2

mistsim.2748:

there are tons of good power and other spec rangers out there. I find it laughable that it’s narrowed down to a few, most of which don’t play the game any more and therefore don’t understand the new builds and meta. I also fail to understand what you hope to achieve by talking to someone 1 on 1…just go on the ranger forums and metabattle, explore the builds and come to the conclusions on your own. you need at least 1500 hours on a single profession to become proficient at it.

no you need like 100-200 once you know how to play one class

if you won the 1v1 before you got +1d is ok. if you won the 1v2 before you got +2’d also means you carried your weight plus some. however once you win 1v2’s you usually automatically get your team like 250 points.

yes I definitely remember you as the ultimate hot joiner warr defender lol

I always thought you were some hard core pvpr since your guide to beating warrs as been as your signature for forever

ya tbh it took me a couple minutes to get it down pretty much exactly every time. I might be like 5% less efficient than a macro but at least I dont need a macro

a few months ago sharks w/ lazers was qing and someone had to leave so we 500-0’d the enemy team in a 4v5.
me and bacon mon won a 2v4 at far

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

@ Aeroxe.8140
nice scarf!

@ Harbinger.8637
you hardcore veteran elite pro players played too much in the past.
now let us casuals have a chance at it. :p

he was hardly ever a veteran elite pro player just an experienced soloqr

SobeSoul.6910:

There seems to some usage of macros going on in spvp lately. It isn’t that hard to spot. Not going to name names. Curious as to if Anet actually checks into this issue or not.

I honestly dont know any usage for macros except lich stomps.

Sebastian.4610:

i generally rage at people that have no place in my games, but i guess its not their fault its just bad match making.

masskillerxploit.2165:

like srsly
this is the worst state pvp has been in EVER. sry justin i know your trying to make this patch work, but its just not. I only q into premades now. so i guess i will avoid soloqing and i lose points on the LB for losing to them with kittenty teammates that lose every fight im not in.

sry ferox I guess you need that muubi carry

if you seriously just read the popup you get when you load into a map you would know what the heck is happening. It’s really not that difficult.

servers are in texas.
Ive always had problems with latency, however, my in game latency and my speedtest latency have always been similar, so I’m not sure what problem youre having.

Try using WTFast.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

Duka.5864:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

a tl; dr explanation would be:
if you win, you usually + 1 ladder point,
because you will not defeat teams better than you.

if you lose, you usually -1 ladder point,
because the other team is better than you.

however, if the other team had a slightly higher chance to defeat you, but you lost the match anyway but somehow managed to score at least 400 team points, you will get + 1 ladder point for that lost.

So i can play all day and don’t move on leader at all! Nice!

well, if you play all day, but do not win many matches, then yes, you will not move up the ladder at all.
\

actually youll probably go up because you lose every game then if you get like 200 points you still gain rank points since you are expected to lose every game

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

@ Booms.2594
but what if the user is able to quickly remove the poison and burning?

honestly the self inflicted poison for 6s, corrupt 1 boon every 9s is balanced.

burning yourself for 10 seconds is like 6k dmg to yourself… no one would take that lmao..

Keksmuffin.1450:

Well the problem with this trait atm is that it’s kinda uncontrolable due to the passive virtue of justice triggering it and that it just removes the last applied boon without priority on anything.

A simple change that would make this trait good would be removing 2 boons on targets arround you when you use virtue of justice with priority on something relevant like stability, might or protection.

This would be a bit too strong for a adept trait though and seing how boon remove on shatter and boon remove on steal are in master slots it should probably be a master trait if they would buff it.

actually i feel like removing 2 boons on virtue of justice active (just the person the active hits though) targetting prot and might would be a perfect buff for this trait. I’d take out my vigor for it probably.

they use to have it at launch but its been removed

@chaith commenting on the hammer;sc/f guards in EU

medi guard is strong vs mes/thief comps but completely horrible vs celestial comps. you will only see it in EU until a full celestial team pops up and destroys him.
hammer and scepter aren’t even the most viable weapons vs a mesmer/thief anyway.. medi is just that strong against it.

Justin ODell.9517:

r idea is letting you keep your pub team through the next queue if you won.

this was from gw1 iirc and was really awesome, should do this

it runs a weaponset partically for vigor so i mean the perma vigor is pretty much fine

Keksmuffin.1450:

Booms.2594:

this is with 1800 ranked wins
so I guess i play guardian mostly

eh

love you bullet punch

but still got more than ya bb

Dustin.2793:

Booms.2594:

Dustin.2793:

Booms.2594:

Dustin.2793:

Just to be fair, the original abjured comp utilized 2 celestial amulets. Rabid engi, d/p thief, carrion necro, celestal elex2. After 2 member couldn’t attend WTS, the abjured then replaced two players. After replacing 2 players the Abjured still beat every team in the world with substitutes. The roster was then changed following the WTS. Now, yes it had 3 celestial amulets. Did good fights dominate the NA scene before WTS? Yes. Before Celestial amulet was even introduced! The abjured comp is now 3/5 previous Good Fights. TBH as a berserker amulet i can 1v1 any “celestial amulet” player in this game and atleast go 50/50 win percentage. From a world champion I would advise you to rethink your team composition and tighten up on your rotations before blaming everything on a “amulet”. Also look at your individual player skill, and ask yourself do you honestly believe you can go toe to toe with players such as the Abjured and Absurd.
Now, do I believe celestial could have a few percentages shaved off the total stats? Yes. Does it need to be totally deleted? No. I believe hybrid builds should exist, although they shouldn’t be the most powerful in any stat. They should utilize defensive and offensive tactics in order to be successful. Which I believe they do well now, but could use just a little toning down(not much since I can beat them as a zerker amulet.)
~Magic Toker

also to be fair, when GF dominated there was no competition whatsoever

Well there still isn’t any competition, your point? Sorry big boy, keep streaming your 400 pound dps guard play that no one watches.

well when theres 4 classes that are much better than all the others and you stack top 2 or so players for them onto one team yeah I wonder what will happen.

sorry if youre upset that Im trying to make somethign thats not viable work because I like to play it. But s/d thief is hard right I mean it took me like 2 hours to start owning people with my dodge spams

I’ve won more tourneys on d/p than I’ve won on s/d. Whatever floats your boat though.

oh yes so you played a meta build when it was meta and now you play another meta build when its meta. ok.

Dustin.2793:

Booms.2594:

Dustin.2793:

Just to be fair, the original abjured comp utilized 2 celestial amulets. Rabid engi, d/p thief, carrion necro, celestal elex2. After 2 member couldn’t attend WTS, the abjured then replaced two players. After replacing 2 players the Abjured still beat every team in the world with substitutes. The roster was then changed following the WTS. Now, yes it had 3 celestial amulets. Did good fights dominate the NA scene before WTS? Yes. Before Celestial amulet was even introduced! The abjured comp is now 3/5 previous Good Fights. TBH as a berserker amulet i can 1v1 any “celestial amulet” player in this game and atleast go 50/50 win percentage. From a world champion I would advise you to rethink your team composition and tighten up on your rotations before blaming everything on a “amulet”. Also look at your individual player skill, and ask yourself do you honestly believe you can go toe to toe with players such as the Abjured and Absurd.
Now, do I believe celestial could have a few percentages shaved off the total stats? Yes. Does it need to be totally deleted? No. I believe hybrid builds should exist, although they shouldn’t be the most powerful in any stat. They should utilize defensive and offensive tactics in order to be successful. Which I believe they do well now, but could use just a little toning down(not much since I can beat them as a zerker amulet.)
~Magic Toker

also to be fair, when GF dominated there was no competition whatsoever

Well there still isn’t any competition, your point? Sorry big boy, keep streaming your 400 pound dps guard play that no one watches.

well when theres 4 classes that are much better than all the others and you stack top 2 or so players for them onto one team yeah I wonder what will happen.

sorry if youre upset that Im trying to make somethign thats not viable work because I like to play it. But s/d thief is hard right I mean it took me like 2 hours to start owning people with my dodge spams

Dustin.2793:

Just to be fair, the original abjured comp utilized 2 celestial amulets. Rabid engi, d/p thief, carrion necro, celestal elex2. After 2 member couldn’t attend WTS, the abjured then replaced two players. After replacing 2 players the Abjured still beat every team in the world with substitutes. The roster was then changed following the WTS. Now, yes it had 3 celestial amulets. Did good fights dominate the NA scene before WTS? Yes. Before Celestial amulet was even introduced! The abjured comp is now 3/5 previous Good Fights. TBH as a berserker amulet i can 1v1 any “celestial amulet” player in this game and atleast go 50/50 win percentage. From a world champion I would advise you to rethink your team composition and tighten up on your rotations before blaming everything on a “amulet”. Also look at your individual player skill, and ask yourself do you honestly believe you can go toe to toe with players such as the Abjured and Absurd.
Now, do I believe celestial could have a few percentages shaved off the total stats? Yes. Does it need to be totally deleted? No. I believe hybrid builds should exist, although they shouldn’t be the most powerful in any stat. They should utilize defensive and offensive tactics in order to be successful. Which I believe they do well now, but could use just a little toning down(not much since I can beat them as a zerker amulet.)
~Magic Toker

also to be fair, when GF dominated there was no competition whatsoever

DaveGan.8065:

Booms.2594:

nah there’s a definite prioritization as stab/prot are always stripped last no matter what

If this is really true, doesn’t that mean the current coding kind of sucks and should be avoided with a 30 ft pole? lol

well its not too bad if it helps out with getting rid of might haha
also remember bountiful theft steals stab/aegis before everything else so that also has prioritizations

DaveGan.8065:

Nullification should not be intended to focus certain classes that hard, but it definitely does need to prioritize (or randomize) the boon it does remove.

I had a list of buffs (and stacks/duration) in a previous thread which I would consider “priority”, and any boon removal sigil should be looking at more than just might.

• Might over 6 stacks
• Stability over 3 seconds
• Protection over 5 seconds
• Fury over 5 seconds
• Vigor over 5 seconds
• Regen over 5 seconds
• Swiftness over 10 seconds
• Retaliation over 10 seconds

Ideally removal should be prioritized in roughly the order above.

The alternative (and probably significantly easier to code) would be to RNG the removal.

DOES TARGET HAVE A BUFF?

• YES: Does target have 1 or more “high priority” buffs?
  ——- YES: Randomly remove a high priority buff and trigger the internal cooldown.
  ——- NO: Randomly remove any buff and trigger the internal cooldown
• NO: Do nothing

Booms

dont need to change anything, things like corrupt boon and path of corruption already have a priority for boon strip

They seem to only prioritize the last-applied boons. To prioritize might and/or other boons, more coding is definitely necessary.

nah there’s a definite prioritization as stab/prot are always stripped last no matter what

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

Booms.2594:

just prioritize might and itll be good

ah u mean the 1st proposal.

how should the in game text description be worded?

and it should be code-able by justin, evan and team right?

dont need to change anything, things like corrupt boon and path of corruption already have a priority for boon strip

just prioritize might and itll be good

are you talking about how you can backstab with shadowshot which is basic knowlegde to like the entire pvp population?

edit: nevermind I just tested it and they definitely reverted a change to shadow shot. strange you can cancel the damage portion again when I swear they changed this. probably a mistake by some updater.

you should make change it so that
if you play thief >
are you good?
yes > play s/d acro
no > d/d ele

this is with 1800 ranked wins
so I guess i play guardian mostly

Ovid.7135:

Vee Wee I want to marry you, it’s just a pity you’re an american, or at least someone on NA.

i would not allow this anyway

coglin.1867:

uberkingkong.8041:

….. turret engineer…..

I have to be honest with you. If you truely believe turret engineers of all the engineer builds, is strong, much less a top bunker, I have to seriously question you knowledge of the build.

Booms.2594:

if we’re going to say bunker guard can hold people 1v1 and 1v2 then we should also include cleric staff ele since both are useless

Would you mind explaining how they are “useless” at bunkering?

just like s/d ele is the best “damage and burst” in the game, guardian may be the best bunker but that means nothing since overall they arent as helpful

Chaith.8256:

What can bunker versus the most amount of people for the longest?

Engi, Ele? What are you guys smoking.

It’s Guardian by a large margin. They just can’t have that ability and still 1v1 or 2v2 well.

if we’re going to say bunker guard can hold people 1v1 and 1v2 then we should also include cleric staff ele since both are useless

Ive found I can carry most soloqs (I was like 60-15) on meditation guard and thats a pretty easy class to learn

Aaron.2413:

Booms.2594:

SobeSoul.6910:

I have played against your team before. I have also played against GF, APEX and a few other teams in the past with casual players in the old tpvp system. You guys don’t even compare on an individual skill level. Your team just reminds me of WvW zergers.

And if you think ele and engie aren’t harder classes to play than other classes also lol…

I’m talking about mechanics and not balance if you don’t understand.

ps Go back and look at the notes for the lich “nerf”.. lol…

hi Ive been playing competitive pvp for a while
yes individually radioactive is not that great
however I would also like to point out that d/d ele and cele engi are ridiculously easy builds to run. Seriously try to play them in competitive pvp with like 5-15hours and youll do just fine. I consistantly beat people with my <20 hour d/d ele who have played thousands of hours on their classes (I still got rekt by caed in that ESL monthly tho cuz Ive never fought a dp thief on my ele before LOL)

hi I’ve been playing competitive pvp for a while
yes individually radioactive is not that great
however i would like to point out that their builds are very easy to play… In fact…. it turns out NOTHING IN THIS GAME IS OR WILL EVER BE hard to play….

Why doesn’t Boreal beat Abjured? why doesn’t bob and joe’s cele team beat Boreal?
Because regardless of the comp the better players will still be on top…

This game which is aiming for exports, should be balanced from the top down… at the top, we see the best players…. People saying players like Wakkey and other Abjured members would be no-one without celestial….
Well here we go
BEFORE CELESTIAL
Wakkey- Played on Good Fights the best team on NA for about 6 months
Magic Toker-Played on Good Fights the best team on NA for about 6 months
Five Guage- Played on Good Fights the best team on NA for about 6 months
Phantaram- Played on Team Paradigm and The Civilized Gentlemen
Noscoc-doesnt use cele
Caed- doesn’t use cele
Ostrich Eggs- used rabid for most of career on top teams
the list goes on…

The best players will be at the top regardless of the meta….
Celestial is honestly probably the best meta this game has ever seen…

Lets review
Bunker- no fun, no kills, super slow games
Burst- un-avoidable insta kills, basically who instantly kills the other without counter play
Condi- slowly melt to death

Celestial Combines condis bunker and DPS>>> You can instant kill if you combo, you can overload with condis, you can sustain if grouped up… IE it combines all the play styles into one…. catering to all play types.. This actually allows the greatest build diversity and comp diversity..

backpack is finally someone you notice since engineer is overpowered and now its the best meta ever.

even if 3/8 classes arent used and 2 of 1 class is required

SobeSoul.6910:

I have played against your team before. I have also played against GF, APEX and a few other teams in the past with casual players in the old tpvp system. You guys don’t even compare on an individual skill level. Your team just reminds me of WvW zergers.

And if you think ele and engie aren’t harder classes to play than other classes also lol…

I’m talking about mechanics and not balance if you don’t understand.

ps Go back and look at the notes for the lich “nerf”.. lol…

hi Ive been playing competitive pvp for a while
yes individually radioactive is not that great
however I would also like to point out that d/d ele and cele engi are ridiculously easy builds to run. Seriously try to play them in competitive pvp with like 5-15hours and youll do just fine. I consistantly beat people with my <20 hour d/d ele who have played thousands of hours on their classes (I still got rekt by caed in that ESL monthly tho cuz Ive never fought a dp thief on my ele before LOL)

tfw ferox and crysis and ozie are ranked above me

i should seriously just reroll a meta class so I can be top 10

Bitty.1409:

A future nerf to D/D Elementalists is inevitable, something needs to change and I (sorta) trust ANET to eventually make the move to do so. However, please please please keep in mind that there are other builds for ele’s like my fresh air ele which i’ve played for more than a year now straight. It’s already in a tough enough spot and making certain changes to traits could really make us even less viable. All I ask is that y’all know that my fresh air build is more important then anything else in this game and my needs always need to come first, kthxbye
- “THE” Shnicky (also known as Shnickey Mouse)

buffing medi guard in turn buffs s/f ele.. somehow

i was literlaly in this tournament youre talking about and there was a 5 minute delay

there are like 3-5 minute delays on the streams lol

been streaming a lot lately for Guardian in NA
http://twitch.tv/holymoobs

Ozie.4176:

Bad player calling other bad players bad.

that moment when the person calling out a “bad player” on calling other players bad is actually bad

not only that, looking at my LB, I’ve won like 8 games today and lost like 4. However I’ve only gone up 1 kitteng point. Thats because this stupid system for some reason thinks Im suppose to carry these complete kittens and if I dont I lose 2 points apparently where as if I win its only +1.

I’m honestly really frustrated the amount of times I either win 1v2s or watch my team lose 2v1s to people I just won a 1v2 versus. I dont understand how the match making is this screwed.
Seriously does the match maker look at me and its like “wow he has good mmr lets put him with people who have no clue what theyre doing whatsoever vs people slightly worse than him so its fair”? Like I can win 1v2’s but when I win them and my team is still losing every other point 4v3 like what do you want me to do? This is honestly so frustrating considering I have to wait 10minute q’s (soloq) every time.

igsy.8027:

Keksmuffin.1450:

Laaw you do realize that I’m in two of these teams and prolly neither of them will play? :<

Well this is awkward…

I guess it’s time to accept you’ve been kicked cos everyone plays Double ele.

hahahahahaha medi guard lyf

Silentshoes.1805:

Lopez is right that I am right.

Your MMR rises or falls based on how often the team you are on exceeds expectations or fails to meet expectations.

Have you not seen the Ladder Points chart yet?

You can actually gain Ladder points if your team is expected to lose and score only about 150 points, but instead gets 300 points…and loses!

Yeah but if our team is expected to win every time we’ll get 1 point per game. Then we’ll need to play a game for every point we want.. and if we do lose it’ll be like -3

Silentshoes.1805:

Booms.2594:

Silentshoes.1805:

Booms, you have only been soloQ, ungrouped for all 30 matches? And you won all of them?

unranked i am 17-1 solos, for my ranked i was in a group for most of them.

And what class did you play to beat the Unranked-as-solo odds so well?

medi guardian

Silentshoes.1805:

Booms, you have only been soloQ, ungrouped for all 30 matches? And you won all of them?

unranked i am 17-1 solos, for my ranked i was in a group for most of them.

Silentshoes.1805:

Booms,

You have been grouping with at least one friend I expect. People who group seem to have overall much better matches that solo players.

all soloqs actually