Guild Wars 2

Lexiceta.4156:

Hard to disagree with original post except in one regard, Adjured really never had a prayer of winning, Seriously 4 games lost, one of which by 300+ points to a team that was obviously better.

“never had a prayer”
thats why all of the first 3 games were won by oRNG by late game come backs, some of which were very large come backs.

they specifically said you don’t have to be good at the game to play it. so I honestly think no, I wont enjoy it.

99% of casts the casters are the one controlling the cameras. This time they put someone who had no idea what they’re doing on duty and it really turned out badly. Honestly if you watch ESL cups you’ll find that the camera is way better

yes he runs intel/energy on hammer which might be a little different

Skullface.7293:

I’ll contribute from my experience playing LB/GS Power Ranger. I’m better than the majority of rangers, so my rating will be higher than what people may expect from a Longbow Ranger.

Guardian Bunker: 8:2
Power rangers should never have a problem with bunker guards. Even if I don’t end up killing the guard, I still have a lot of cc to get the guardian off point and get a guaranteed decap and eventually full cap.

Guardian Meditation: 4:6
Most DPS guardian players think they can stomp every power rangers, but a good power ranger will surprise them. Well placed Entangle during the heal and immobs from spiders can put a ton of pressure on them. Never spam your evades(never do that against anything), use them only at times you know he’s going to burst you hard. There is a lot of mind games versus them and knowing how to manage your cooldowns is how you can successfully beat them.

Warrior Shoutbow: 4:6
Shoutbow warriors are beatable as long as you kite around the point well. Never stay on point while they lay the fire field and always dodge pin downs. Wait until they use their warhorn skills to immob them after to follow with the bursts.

Engi Cele: 7:3
Are fairly easy with immobs by your side. When they use their gear shield is a great time to use the elite as it is unblockable. If they use their crate, LR out of there and use your autos.

Engi Condi: 3:7
Are a bit harder to deal with thanks to the amount of condis they put on you, the blinds and the reflects. You need to stow your weapon if they are going for a reflect or use Entangle followed with a LB#5.

Thief S/D Acrobatics: 6:4
I love this match-up a lot. There is a lot of mind games playing between a good power ranger and a good S/D Thief. In the end, the ranger has the advantage because of their cc. One mistake from the thief and it can cost him dearly.

Thief D/P Panic Strike: 7:3
I never had any problem facing them as we can easily get rid of their immob thanks to our 2 utilities. Thanks to RF tracking in stealth, this is a fairly easy match up on point.

Thief D/P Executioner: 7:3
Similar to Panic Strike, are fairly easy to deal with.

Ele D/D Celestial: 4:6
Always use your barrage after a successful stealth, this gives a lot of pressure on the ele. After that you want to CC them to take the most of the RF. Always play defensively while they are in Fire and Air attunements.

Ele S/F Fresh Air: 6:4
As long as you use your SoS at the right time, there should not be much of a problem facing them 1v1 on point. When they reflect, switch to GS to burst them. As long as you watch out for the Phoenix, you’re in business.

Mesmer Staff/GS Shatter: 8:2
The main skills you need to dodge on GS are the #2 and #4, which have easy to tell animations. get stealth on one of their closes and get a barrage on the point. CC them and use your LB#2 to finish them off.

Mesmer Sword/Torch Shatter: 7:3
A bit harder to fight than Staff/GS because of the evade on sword and the stealth Torch provides. Still, a fairly easy match-up for a longbow ranger as RF tracks through stealth like a jerk.

Necro Terror: 8:2
The key to beat any condi necros is to keep your distance from them, use your CC and burst them. If they somehow condi burst you, SoR is there for that. If they want to fear chain you, use your LR and follow up with LB#3 to re-position.

Necro Power: 9:1
I very rarely lose any 1v1s against them. Similar to Terror, all you need to do is make your CC your friend. When you immobilize them, there is not much they can do from eating a LB #2.

me vs eura (arguably best v best) the other day was around 8-2/7-3 on the hammer guard spec (which is extremely weaker vs power ranger than sw/gs vs ranger)

Saiyan.1704:

This better not change how Guardian teleports with flashing blade and Judge’s intervention… that’s all I gotta say…

it will. which is why im kittened.

Firebird.8324:

Booms.2594:

voices besides “FIGHT ON NODE SO I CAN BANNA U” ofcourse

Hey booms, we need one for tounies if ur up for it and, also, your over extensions, nuff said

if focusing targets that are 5% and trying to run away is over extending then no words exist to do describe your positioning

voices besides “FIGHT ON NODE SO I CAN BANNA U” ofcourse

firebird be quiet or some people will start making fun of the thousands of mistakes you make per game that I never bothered telling you or anyone about

what are you talking about the virtues are very situational.. if you aren’t using them situationally maybe you should l2p?

hammer guard can definitely deal with any thief if well played.. if well played.

Match making has been good for the past few weeks. Then I login today and I’m being put with people who can’t win 1 single fight the entire game. Yet I’m vs people that I can’t 1v2 completely to carry (if I had help as a 2v2 for 5 seconds we’d win, but I dont get it cuz we’re losing other nodes still). Like this is probably some of the worst match making for soloqs I’ve seen in a long long long long time. Previously if I was just getting put with complete idiots I could just 1v2 carry, but now theyre purposely putting much better players on the enemy team and worse players on my team expecting me to be the godly hero who can 1v3 the entire team for the entire game. What gives and what did you change?

Sounds cool I’ll cover sword/GS guardian matchups and Ill do hammer later
Build for all of the below: 2/1/6/1/4 SW/F; GS Guardian
Matchup: D/D Ele 1:9 easily

Matchup: Cele Rifle Engi 2:8

Matchup: Rabid Engi 2:8

Matchup: Condi Ranger 8:2

Matchup: Shatter mesmer 9:1

Matchup: DP Thief (both crit strikes and deadly arts) 9:1

Matchup: SD Thief 5:5

Matchup: Power Ranger 9:1

Matchup: Shoutbow Warrior 8:2

Matchup Soldier Hambow 7:3

Matchup Terrormancer Necro 9:1

Matchup Power Necro 8:2

Matchup Hammer Guard 8:2

Matchup Cele Staff Ele 5:5 (stalemate for over 2min)

i add reasoning later

Drennon.7190:

Booms.2594:

:(

You’re a very skilled guardian, but tage is a “sportsman.” I’d love to see NA guardian representation in the next WTS, but your rage is extreme. I think you’ll be hard pressed to find four other people willing to stick together and grow as a team, while being verbally attacked by their own teammate.

haha too true but I think my next team will do well

extremely skilled huh.. whisp me on darek.1836 sometime

:(

YuiRS.8129:

Drennon.7190:

brannigan.9831:

Bunker guardian is not about winning 1v1 ever. It is about supporting your team and holding and fighting on points. And even with Bunker guardian being out of fashion because of op aspects of elementalist and engineer it still is what Guardian’s do best in spvp. So if you want to continue to play Guardian in spvp I would suggest bunker and change your definition of what success means to you. Your victories as a bunker guardian are team victories not 1v1 conquests.

Bunker guardian has fallen out of the meta. 0/1/6/1/6 hammer medi is the new meta.

Anybody besides kitten playing that on high level?

its used more often in EU

gg for destroying mesmer and guardians then.

honestly nothing wrong with guardian. the hammer build is as easy to play as cele engi/ele, and the greatsword spec is still very usable. I’m not sure why you guys think its weak (or why you think condi is better than power, you stilllose to ele and zerker can win every match you can, except also beat ranger)

can you give me an example of the kind of player who’s in the high mmr? since you seperated high from the “elite” tournament players

infantrydiv.1620:

sinject.4607:

infantrydiv.1620:

It’s probably already been decided, but who would you guys most like to see cast WTS NA? What casters would bring the most hype?

http://strawpoll.me/3758839

Personally I feel like Grouch/Blu know the NA scene best, and definitely are the most popular to see cast NA tournaments.

grouch and blu are the worst casters. sorry, but there’s nothing about them that makes watching competitive events enjoyable. they’ve never played high-level pvp so they don’t bring experience or insight, they’re not really funny or have strong personalities; their voices aren’t even nice to listen to at least.

literally every other caster this game has brings at least one of those qualities mentioned above to the table. i’m guessing the only people that do enjoy grouch/blu are the same people who like their boring recycled twitch.tv humor or bland commentary that is literally just them repeating what they see on the screen.

please anet, just make it so competitive games can be spectated by everyone in game. i am so tired of being forced to watch games through erratic perspective changes accompanied by commentary i have no interest in hearing.

Uh, Jebro, Chronick and Kaelaris have not played PvP at the highest level. In fact, Grouch probably has the most high level pvp experience out of all of them. Maybe you think their voices are special, but they really just have accents. Jebro probably does have the most distinctive voice, but that could be a positive or a negative depending on personal preference. I don’t find Jebro or Chronick particularly funny either. I think Blu/Grouch know the NA community and the conquest meta better than Jebro/Chronick, and I also think they hype close ends of games a bit better than Jebro/Chronick do. For example, I’ve seen Jebro completely oblivious to the fact that a game is coming down to timer, or not notice a lord rush until the lord is almost entirely dead. I’m sure Blu has done the same kinds of things, but I noticed it more often from Jebro.

exactly. blu and grouch are better casters, but people just like to listen to that funny accent that jebro has

I once lost a 4v5 because apparently 2 of our people were lagging really hard and lost 1v3s since i was winning 1v2s

projectile destruction simply isnt the same thing as blocking in this game

how come i never heard of this and im on FA?? ughhh

theyll probably give SYG 6 stacks tbh. which is a serious nerf.

Chaith.8256:

Anyone thinking how warding effects (slick shoes, ring, line) will remove infinite stability stacks at once, I recommend the tinfoil hats be re-equipped immediately to prevent an ArenaNet conspiracy.

It rips one stack of stability per instance of attempting to cross the warding effect, this means in practice, the very moment you get caught in it, simply move away and cease using stability stacks on it. These warding effects do have a short global cooldown if you examine them closely.

However, abilities that have only one stack of stability will not always counter Slick Shoes every time, like currently how the Ranger’s ‘Shared Anguish’ trait plays out. You have to employ GTFO tactics for the warding effect to not eat a second stability stack, as the warding abilities function right now.

yeah im keeping my tinfoil hat on. you literally just proved yourself wrong that there ISNT an ICD on slickshoes.

Karl McLain.5604:

Nike.2631:

Karl McLain.5604:

You may ask: “But what about my boon removal skills? Will they only corrupt one instance of stability now?” To which we say: Your corruptions and boon removals will clear the boon completely, unless otherwise noted.

Does corrupting Stability still result in a fear effect, and if so, for how long?

Nothing has changed with the effect of corruption or removal. Whether 1 stack or 25, the fear duration of corruption will be the same. All stacks are removed.

please don’t ignore my completely serious question. 95% of good pvprs in this game are freaked out that slick shoes are going to be beyond ridiculously OP after this change. ARE YOU DOING SOMETHING?

Yasha.5963:

They don’t need more HP- the thumper already has the health of a raid boss anyway-,

lold

Highlie.7641:

Not at all elitist, there is less skill involved in pvp, your forgetting a very important aspect.
Hidden Mechanics. 3 quick examples (though there is literately a full page worth in total)
-Activation time after wpn swap. If you started with Pvp you probably wouldn’t even notice it, but there is a .2 – .5 second delay after swaping. I know this for a fact since it destroyed one of my favorite wvw combo’s.

-Allowing Port’s Without LOS. Height porting. *though the height porting could be “gamed” in wvw by using a 40ish degree right angle port. at certain locations.

- No res sickness, No 5 downed instant death.
This one really annoys me, im sick of killing the same people 3-5 times just to watch there teammates spam AOE and rez them back. That idiotic CD on Return is to thank. And Why did they add a cd to return… That’s right. because of Example 2.

I could go on but its pointless too. the best thieve ive seen was from wvw. but like most thieves they have quit due to biased balancing. so congrats He just might be the “Best” but you shouldn’t brag. In reality its only due to the fact that arena net has a firm grasp of your hand.

:D #Easy sports
P.s i have no opinion of this “toker” as i have only ran into him a handful of times. I just assumed he was having an off day.

i dont get it what. like ofc pvp players know about the delay on weapon swap ( but only when canceling a skill). we just never figured it didnt exist somewhere else. i kinda agree with rez spamming though. If you down a person multiple times they should at least have less downed hp to make it harder to repeat rez.
and height porting is just l2p. you probably think using LoS carries spvp players too.

just make sure you ban kittened mesmer builds that use knights amulet with 3 mantras and just run away in staff until you die

Foefaller.1082:

Booms.2594:

What are you doing about slickshoes to keep it from knocking off 10+ stacks of stability in under a second?

I assume the little fields would work like warding lines- you walk over it, you lose 1 stack, you walk over it again, you lose another.

Granted Slick shoes doesn’t actual require you to move at all to start falling over (something that still leaves me a bit flabbergasted) …but that seems like the most sane answer.

and theres actually like 20+ little fields that might each proc stability

What are you doing about slickshoes to keep it from knocking off 10+ stacks of stability in under a second?

interesting most of them dont know guardian has a much bigger advantage

Solstice.1097:

Some of the input received on this thread has led me to believe that it’s a good idea to send 1 home, 2 mid, 2 far, Instead of going for a 1-3-1

because far is going to be probably wakkey, and one person will fall back (probably nos but maybe 5g). This puts you 2v2 vs wakkey and nos/5g and another 2v2 vs toker and nos/5g

It would seem these are much more winnable 2v2 fights if you split the necro and engi up.

But you still have to have someone hold 1v1 at home vs Phantaram, and you can’t lose either of the 2v2 fights. so yea its a simple formula but its extremely difficult to execute unless you’re team is all top 20 players in the world.

its funny you make a thread how to beat them but you literally dont even know what they do
i thought when you made the thread you did but apparently not, here’s there usual opening:
phanta far
wakkey mid
nos home
5g between home/mid
toker can be any node
so if you 4/1/0 split to keep phanta off home:
5g+wakkey+toker mid and phanta leaves far with fgs insane mobility impossible to kill mode= home/mid cap 2cap start snowball abjured wins
you 2/3/0
phanta + toker take nearly impossible to win 2v2, only way to win is with better thief ele or with engi/necro. however if you put engi/necro in this 2v2 youll just stalemate wakkey/5g mid until nos comes up with his explosion instawin combo on someone and theyll win the 3v3 since wakkey 5g still alive. otherwise can leave phanta 1v2 and let toker 3v3 til nos arrives as well.
you 3/2/0
similar to 4/1/0 phanta will either troll or bail while wakkey 5g take the 2v2 until nos arrives. nos arrives and you lose.
you 1/4/0
phanta wins far eventually. 2 cap regardless of mid.
you 1/3/1
5g nos explode crosser in less than 10 seconds and go mid to outnumber there. phanta wins 1v1. 3 cap.
you 1/2/2
phanta wins 1v1. wakkey stalemates mid while 5g nos toker explode crossers. 2 cap regardless of mid.
1/1/3
phanta wins 1v1. wakkey stalemates/wins mid. toker bails home if they start to lose and plusses mid to win that 2v1/2v2. doubtful youll win the 3v3 though.
1/0/4
phanta wins 1v1 wakkey free caps mid and 2cap. this is interesting though, I havent seen it used vs abjured (has anyone seen this?). youll probably just see nos plague node and 5g/toker book it til wakkey rotates in.
0/0/5
same as above with the plague.

honestly the best way imo is just to 1/2/2 and win your matchups.

messiah.1908:

i see so many not tested qq on this build
1v1 it works better than medzerk
2v2 also work better with aoe burning poison and bleed
3v3 the same

where it isnt shine when its 2v1 so medzerk can put faster and harder burst dmg
or when you need to kill down ppl fast

not true its weaker 1v1 and only better in VERY FEW 2v2s (so worse overall) and way worse in 3v3

Aeroxe.8140:

-Extremely/genuinely nice people. Really, you will probably not find a nicer guy in this game.
-Knowledgable, and willing to share wisdom to others

rofl

yes

id like to submit my application

-plays non meta class
-has multiple beefs with elite players
-mediocre player overall
-has had my girl taken multiple times by toker and co
-#2 bunker guard na 2nd only to the man himself morfeus kensuda
-#2 medi guard na 2nd only to backpacks staff guardian
-old enough for esports
-has an excess of 500lbs designated to esports
-heals at the highest possible rate of 3k hp/s

pls accept me father toker

Black Box.9312:

Kraljevo.2801:

Black Box.9312:

Lich form is still not properly balanced, is why.

This.

Lich form is what every elite should be, a strong elite skill. However, they’ve put too way too much into skill #1 and #5, encouraging spammy gameplay.

- #1 hits like a train and can oneshot a thief (6-7k crit + 3k chill of death proc + air/fire sigils)
- #2 is useless, waste of casting time
- #3 is rarely used, mainly for preventing stomps
- #4 useless as well, minions die fast
- #5 amazing in team fights

I’m fine with it being a game changer. It just needs to have a weaker autoattack and stronger secondary abilities. A ranged, non-projectile autoattack that can deal upwards of 7k when paired with sigils is just stupid. It’s gotten to the point where I just run mesmer and moa every lich form kitten I see.

except it is a projectile

FINALS
2V1 WAKKEY + ZOOSE VS TARCIS

Kharr.5746:

Did you dodge/fall/trip/etc or do something to cancel the skill mid cast? Stopping a skill mid-cast causes it to go on cooldown. If it’s not that and no one else interrupted it, you should be submitting a bug report. It’s possible that it’s just buggy sometimes and needs to be looked at.

even if it was interupted or canceled it shouldnt go on full cd

this will be so much fun

You can do better in team because you can purposely have people on your team with a higher mmr. I don’t know any good team players that can’t do well in Soloq though.

Veritas.3952:

I have often wished that the first round of r 80’s ( those that became r 80 when the april 15th patch went live ) would get a separate finisher ( maybe a reskin of the dragon finisher ) as the grind to 55 or above was alot more than what the newer dragons have had to go through. It is of course a non-necessary notion, but It would be kinda nice and appreciated none the less.

getting to 55 then and 80 now were the exact same?

its funny at the highest skill level I’d rather fight a ranger or mes like 90% more than a thief.
Thief takes so much effort to beat since if they land 1 mace crack its gonna be close and if they land 2 then its over and you lost gg..
but yeah burn guard brings absolutely nothing more than just what a normal guard could do. if youre afraid of engi switch to 01616 with normal weapons (not hammer bs) and youll do a lot better just like that.

No reason to have seperate MMRs. Bad players in soloq will still be bad players in teamqq. The only thing that would need to be adjusted is how much of a impact being in a soloq vs teamq has on the match making.
But I think the biggest problem is how much of a difference in MMR the match making is allowed to match you up with. I dont think I should EVER be with someone who isn’t rank 80 in a soloq unless they literally are like 30-1 or something.

I think youll be glad to know that meditation guardian is officialy more viable than bunker guardian at the moment.

Keksmuffin.1450:

I personally switch from 21614 to 01616 against celestial comps that have no mesmer/teef because the stab makes me last longer against eles and engis, it makes me more useful in teamfights and I probably won’t go for 1v1s anyways if there is no zerker and no hambow on the other team.

sums up what I do as well

a lot weaker 1v1 but it works well vs the current meta (engis eles warrs). Hammer is nice with the ring and banish as well as fast burst thats safe to drop and get out with, while scepter lets you do damage and immob without being in the fray of things (let the eles do that). It’s a lot weaker in 1v1 and vs DPS (mes/thief) oriented classes than the 21614 sw/f gs variant but in this meta it makes a really good spec for us guards to fit in.

I dont recall this working when I tried it near launch so I think it was changed at some point