Guild Wars 2

Softspoken.2410:

Broadicea.8294:

You laugh at me because I’m different. I laugh at you because you’re all the same.

Do people still say this? I thought it lost its punch at the millionth t-shirt.

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lol guy reminds me of the Sphinx from Mystery Men trying to sound deep

You must master the dodge roll, lest the dodge roll master you…

Your opinion isn’t automatically valid, especially when it’s making judgment calls on highly subjective criteria.

Fun for you isn’t fun for everyone.

come on guys, the OP may not be totally aware of the intricacies of dungeon speedrun groups but at least they’re advocating “DPS über alles.” that’s a far cry more advanced than 95% of pugs out there.

be nice, educate.

p.s. or wait maybe I misread and they’re not advocating, they’re complaining. In that case, fire away, both barrels.

it’s almost as if there are multiple demographics of players in the game who have different desires for content

congrats on teaching more pugs how to avoid the issue rather than to play right

Nikaido.3457:

Considering that one of the future fractals will be inspired by the molten facility (but not an actual carbon copy of the dungeon), and that dredges are the most loved mobs here, I am grinning from ear to ear at the thought of what may actually happen once they’re done working on that fractal. 48 molten will be a gift that keeps on giving.

The thought of getting both molten and underground facility on the same roll! Think about the possibilities!

lol I love your new signature

nah the worst part about teaching is that gw2 players do not think that they need to be taught anything

as a great pugger once told me after I explained how we could down Malrona in 10 seconds:

“we don’t need to do
anything you just said
just range her, let’s go”

it was almost a beautiful pug haiku

kitten that’s some nice elementalisting

it is a terribly vexing problem, to be sure

let us consult the spreadsheets, o wise one…

yeah I did lots of exotic salvaging as well and only got one inscription

pugs have no idea what’s possible in this game

dungeons should display public leaderboards for clear time

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

Broadicea.8294:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

You only need to discover like 8 exotics to get to 450 and you can do that by salvaging exotic Focuses from lower level dungeons. That will get you inscriptions for exotic discoveries. Then you can just make Bloodstone Bricks and other refinements to get to 500.

Refining ascended materials only takes you to 475.

More exotic discoveries, then. Use the AC tokens!

Not saying it’s not possible, but come man there’s a huge disparity in the amount of wealth and thus accessibility to multiple weapons for people in dungeon guilds than there are for the general populace. Meaning that two handers are the way to go if you want to get to 55 AR as fast as possible. It essentially costs twice as much in materials to make an axe and mace as it does to make a single greatsword.

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

You only need to discover like 8 exotics to get to 450 and you can do that by salvaging exotic Focuses from lower level dungeons. That will get you inscriptions for exotic discoveries. Then you can just make Bloodstone Bricks and other refinements to get to 500.

Refining ascended materials only takes you to 475.

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

There will probably be one-handed and two-handed infusions. Having a weapon with 2 infusion slots would be kittened.

Broadicea.8294:

But if the two-handed infusion is just as easy to get as the one-handed infusion it makes 2 handers the automatic choice since obtaining the ascended weapons will be time-gated.

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

How do you know that it won’t take a shorter amount of time to craft one-handed weapons?

Broadicea.8294:

I guess it would make sense if they were easier to craft but I can’t imagine there will be a huge disparity.

Just had to go back to this conversation to say WELLLLLLLPPPPPPP

never underestimate Anet’s capacity for bad design decisions

Because necros don’t suck in SAB

I wish world bosses were instanced, I’d like to see organized guild groups take them on like raid content. Imagine how fast things would go down when people are actually pulling their weight versus the scaling. 4 groups of 5 stacking might, eles all dropping FGS…it would be pretty fun and over in a fraction of the time they are now with all of the PHYWP’ers.

Nicron.2794:

dont let dredge suit come near = no agony
he only does his agony attack if he comes rly near
stay far away and gg

but what if I want to melee him?

devs and mods aren’t the same thing

devs and game directors are also not the same thing

cool fanfic

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I get kicked all the time for saying really mean things like “no, ogre runes are not more DPS than scholar’s or rubies”

Bright.9160:

Broadicea.8294:

If you farmed enough materials that your only holdup was the time gated materials (mithrillium and spirit residue), it would take a couple weeks. But considering the dragonite and empyreal stars for the average player, maybe a little longer.

Dev crafted his first ascended weapon like a day after the patch hit…

The power of money…

He’s also gotten a drop and is almost done crafting his second I think.

it’s just not worth that much cash to me, especially since my fractal runner has a legendary already

colesy.8490:

I don’t get many readings in the dungeon forum besides hostility ;p

we hate because we’re neglected. lashing out is our cry for attention.

SkyChef.5432:

Haha. I’m going to persuade my “grand**” to go back fractal 30+ and above. She now doesn’t have to dodge. Just spend sometimes to craft ascended weapons and she’s good to go. And time, she has plenty. BTW, she is retired and a grandma.
Off topic: How long does it take to craft ascended weapons, the normal way? Like a month?

If you farmed enough materials that your only holdup was the time gated materials (mithrillium and spirit residue), it would take a couple weeks. But considering the dragonite and empyreal stars for the average player, maybe a little longer.

haviz.1340:

Broadicea.8294:

detecting lots of upset feelings about ascended gear, haviz.

Acquisition method is made specifically for casuals which don’t even need this stuff since maybe 3-5% population do fractals 30+. In the meantime, challenging content gives you literally kitten.

Oh I understand and completely agree, but you mention it in almost every thread :P

I love how some people interpret Colin’s carefully measured PR-talk about what things could eventually be in the game.

“A skin locker is something that we’re aware of that people want”

“Guys a skin locker is incoming next paaaaaaaatchhh”

haviz.1340:

Isn’t this how you get your carrot, I mean ascended gear? Spam 1 during “world” events.

detecting lots of upset feelings about ascended gear, haviz.

Yeah Defiant would definitely change the meta, since you wouldn’t want to bring mesmers or warriors with mace offhand or thieves with pistol offhand or

Of course, but I still think warrior has an easier time on phase 1.

Stx.4857:

Hmm, so in reality.. damage is reasonably balanced? I would expect thief to deal a little more damage than other melee because of how squishy he is, like a trade off.

Maybe its not as bad as I thought, its probably just the public’s perception on the classes, and that warrior/guardian is just the ‘easy’ way to faceroll dungeons.

My original point stands though… if my necro deals the same damage as a warrior, yet the warrior brings group might, fury, swift etc, or other group cleanses/heals, why bring a necro? The utility should be balanced better…

Maybe this post was over dramatic and unwarranted, I just got fed up with two seperate pugs today that were lead by experience dungeon runners(one was ele, one was warrior), and they both had the state of mind that necro is useless and i might slow them down.

You’ve pretty much got it down, but pugs are just always stupid. They’re not totally incorrect about necro not having the best utilities, because really the most you can do is blinds for trash mobs and some ok vuln stacking. But what feeds pugs’ perception a lot is the performance of other players, and some classes attract bad players more than others. Not that every player who uses ranger, necro, or engie is bad, it’s just a better bet that that player doesn’t know much about the game and will not be running an optimized dps setup.

It’s like…go back to the old old old versions of fighting games like SF2 or Mortal Kombat. There were those kittenty characters like Zangief or Kano that you would hardly ever see used by the best players. If someone picked them it was a safe bet they didn’t know what they were doing. But occasionally there would be a savant who could paint his opponents red with those guys because they understood the game inside and out. But, the existence of that person doesn’t change the average performance of all the other players.

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

Guard is easier than war. You have perm vigor, a block, and a reflect. War and Mes can solo faster, but doesnt mean easier. Remember to use an energy sigil or two, will make things easier.

Use P2 to get to lupi

Maybe it’s just me but I hate phase 1 as a guard because I can’t deal with locusts as quickly as I can on warrior.

I agree that more balance in PvE (bring kittenty ones UP, not good ones down, though) is needed, but I do wonder where all this entitlement to “MY CLASS” comes from among GW2 players.

You are not a Necromancer in real life. Some classes will always be able to do things that others can’t. There will always be an optimal composition, and then there’s everything else. If you want to achieve optimisation, don’t feel beholden to any certain class and play what works best.

well 95% of rangers are horrible, horrible players so they give it bad name

colesy.8490:

What about a section of a dungeon that temporarily branches off in to five paths and each player has to kill a veteran on their path (but they are pre determined so you could for example set the mesmer or the guard on the guy using projectiles)?

It could be a sneaky DPS check.

lol I like it!

Gamblers Luck.7635:

Broadicea.8294:

The ascended weapon chests let you pick the weapon but not the stats.

Where or what did this drop from?

dude said it was from a champ box

it’s also more about making up for the shortcomings of the group (utilites and DPS) when you’re pugging.

Well yes, if you combined them it would be perfect, be it for fractal or ascended weapons. But instead we get the worst of both worlds. Because Anet.

can someone please demonstrate a dungeon boss or even champ where all 5 people can LoS and then stand there and auto attack

Mad Rasputin.7809:

If they would implement this system for the Fractal Skin drops, I am sure most of you would be excited!

No, they’re both terrible systems, just on opposite ends of the spectrum. But at least the fractal weapon is just a skin that can be transmuted and thus made useful. There are 19 possible weapons and at least 12 or so of them are used regularly if you have all available classes. But of the 13 available ascended weapon stat combinations, only one is useful.

Ethics.4519:

I forgot how easy it is for people to complain about anything on these forums.

When an exotic dropped, it was a weapon and a stat. You now get to PICK your weapon with pre-selected stat. Just be happy, kitten, and play the game.

And when you don’t need that exotic, you can salvage or sell it.

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

Broadicea.8294:

The ascended weapon chests let you pick the weapon but not the stats.

Did you really take a picture of your screen with a camera? I’m not sure what to think

Not my picture.

If I were designing a boss I would design it with strong (but avoidable) ranged attacks, and melee punishment for more than 1 or 2 people in melee. But that doesn’t mean I’ll complain and whine about bosses in the game that don’t have that.

Oh and to answer the original question, they can drop in fractals, and they can also drop from Champ boxes. But I don’t think they can be mob drops or chest drops in dungeons.

It takes away a very important choice, which makes it every bit as stupid as the fractal weapon drops, just at the extreme other end of the spectrum. You get to pick your stats but can’t pick your fractal weapon, meaning you can have as many Berserker scepters, torches, and tridents as you want.

Or, you don’t get to pick your stats but you can pick the weapon. Woohooo, come December I’ll have 8 Magi’s greatswords.

Idiotic.

The ascended weapon chests let you pick the weapon but not the stats.

You can beastmode Alphard like Wethospu does in his solo p2 video, or there’s a safer place to do it from range where he won’t go back for the daggerstorm move, or there’s apparently some way to afk it while the NPC tanks hits for you. Don’t know that third one, only heard whispers about it.

Warcry.1596:

Thief easily… Thief maintaining tons of bleeds and poison can out DPS full Berserker. Slight exaggeration… but it is comparable to it, most dungeon people wont admit it though.

nope

trick question

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What’s the deal on empyreal rewards if run multiple times a day?

spoj.9672:

Does anyone know why operative belka sometimes fails to activate?

She’s old and can’t hear or see you very well, get a little closer.