Yeah but with 4 people rotating your cooldowns are already done and you’re not getting as many as you can. Three guardians could do it if they all go the same speed, but as soon as one person takes too long (more than 10-12 secs) than the rotation isn’t as fast as it could be.
Nobody can answer this except Anet.
Nice dps , the crits was all over the place. Clearly you weren’t being modest when you said you suck at necro , you wasted BiP on Dark Path
lol ugh I know. It was up for 2 auto chains which is ok I guess. Maybe someone can do the math and find out if signet of spite would be better there throughout the whole fight. I was going in with Grasp but once I got the rotations down I didn’t need it. The cool thing with this way is that Death Shroud is off cooldown right about when he normally teleports away, so the Fear is ready to go for the interrupt. A couple Life Blasts and he’s gone. So yeah that utility slot is essentially free for whatever.
It’s too bad there’s no way to move your camera at all, ever
You can, and then you’re dead. That was my first encounter with Liadri. You start with a camera angle where you can’t see the boss (see previous post). Then you have to manually adjust the camera to see the boss (fingers crossed that the boss has actually rendered yet, sometimes he starts invisible for a few seconds). While you’re doing that, you already get hit by an insta kill attack.
I suck at Necro and don’t have full Ascended trinkets or even level 80 exotic weapons. My sigls are garbage and I don’t have Scholar’s runes.
Sorry Queen, it’s a gear/build/L2P thing.
It’s too bad there’s no way to move your camera at all, ever
So the objectifying and stereotyping of certain people is just fine, but criticising such portrayals is troublemaking? Yep, nothing new there, sadly, but that does not make attitudes like this any less problematic.
I see no objectifying or stereotyping in Guild Wars 2 that would offend anyone. I do however find problem with the people who react in the manner you seem to be reacting. If you or anyone truly believes there such going on in the game instead of posting on the forums, which will cause trouble because differing opinion on the internet nearly always leads to throwing insults at one another, contact Anet directly and inform them of your concern. If they feel you have a case they may very well change it to be less offensive. If not they may actually give you the reasoning behind the decision. But making a thread on a forum or even posting comments on youtube has only hurt these causes. I can’t tell you how many times I seen someone make a well thought argument on youtube, I know probably unbelievable, only to be undermined by someone who is on their side but reacts like they just escape from the asylum.
The watchknights are bloody awful and a complete disgrace. They could have been designed as icons of human culture, with symbols of the gods, or using symbology from the royal crest or whatever. Hell, they could have had touches of stylized “femininity” and still looked decent and fit to actually fight. But no. Naked metal women with detailed nipples and high heels. Lowest common denominator on the same level as trashy comic book covers.
Yet there will still be people who will find reason to complain and whine about it. I’m starting to think maybe we should ban causes from the forums since they all ultimately degrade into pointless wars where word twisting is taken to the extreme.
@Bovinity.8610: I think the day society doesn’t freak out is the day the earth was finally destroyed by a catastrophe. It seems this behavior will remain with humanity till extinction.
You are not the one who gets to decide what’s offensive to some people. And it’s not even about that, no one is saying “I am personally upset at this and I demand Anet consider my feels,” it’s about the detrimental impact to society caused by the overuse of sexist depictions of femininity.
But you’re not interested in having that discussion, you want people to shut up and be quiet and not bother anyone about it, because you’re fine with the status quo. You like the way things are and the fact that a few fussy women and men get uppity and make noises about things is what really grinds your gears. So your stance is “Sexism is fine as long as I’m ok with it. Bringing it up and talking about it is far worse.”
It’s a L2P isue with Necro. Use a “target closest” button. You can kill him shortly after the first teleport. I’ll work on my rotations some more and post a video later.
Absolutely nothing has changed for us except spacing out the blind and the fight takes 2-3 seconds longer. It’s still a 45 or 50 second fight rotation. Fight takes 10 seconds but you’ll need to wait about 35s after getting out.
10/30/10/10/10 with II / VI, X, XI / VI / II / I
Full exotic zerk armor with Scholar’s runes.
Exotic zerk weapons with at least a sigil of force. sigil of accuracy helps too.
Ascended zerk trinkets
Proper foods and a stacking sigil filled up from mobs below helps immensely. If you use Perception, go with a power foods. If you use Bloodlust stacks, use precision foods. Just make sure not to waste anything by going over 100% crit chance. If you’re there the rest should go into power. Don’t forget Right Hand Strength doesn’t display, and the 20% from Fury isn’t there until you use Save Yourselves, so 65% crit chance is the ceiling. Some might say this is overkill, but I like killing him before the first TP. You’re still getting in a fight a minute and the less time you spend in there means more time for other folks to farm with you.
Make sure to save your virtue until he’s about to use his Kill Shot. Throw Focus 4 in if you feel like he’s about to teleport, otherwise it’s not needed since the next auto-attack chain will do him in.
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The damage caused by his reflected attacks also have been reduced by about 99% (lol overkill much there Rob?). But the funny thing is, since he does Kill Shot in melee range now, that gives us Guardians enough time to do another auto attack chain so we still kill him before he teleports. lol gg anet, good try anyway.
Add more dungeons.
One sec, let me contact the ArenaNet dungeon team.
man that ain’t true at all!
But there is a post I made about Rangers that was plainly wrong, and I’m glad no one cared enough to take me up on the wager I made.
Good, this keeps the good people farming it and the kittenty “stand back and wait for him to TP to me” scrubs out.
But guardians are still farming him with ease.
But now you have to actually engage him and the Quaggan instead of sitting in the back waiting for the teleport, saying “tee hee hee he can’t see me because I’m outside of 700 range!” This prevents people from activating Crowd Favorite with absolutely zero extra risk.
Plus, since the reflections no longer do about 15-20K damage to him, you have to bring the pain with more specific builds, gear, and rotation, something that all these scrubblets can’t do well. I have nothing against farmers who are being rewarded for their ingenuity and skill, but people who are simply taking advantage of a broken aggro mechanic shouldn’t be rewarded for that IMO.
uguu~ so much harder now
The fight is completely unchanged for the guardian method, except that you have to manage F1 and focus 4 smartly. It helps to have accuracy or bloodlust stacks, as well. Still goes down before the first teleport.
Good, this keeps the good people farming it and the kittenty “stand back and wait for him to TP to me” scrubs out.
Sword/Dagger is fine in phase 1 as long as you space out your #1 attacks and use #3 and dagger #4 for kicks. Solo though, ugh. Locusts. Good friggin luck.
Also in other news it really sucks when you’re practicing Lupi solo, prepared to invite others to finish out your phase 2 if/when you finish him and a patch shows up unannounced.
A simple solution for people who feel like they have to take the path of least resistance to accumulate as much gold as possible would be to give them all their own server, complete with a separate trading post and everything, and litter Lion’s Arch with boxes that give you 1 gold when picked up. Then they can just run around and watch that number in their inventory go +1, and +1, and +1, and +1….
Just make sure they’re completely segregated from everyone else, though.
Attention Devs, I hope you read this post!
Deadeye Dunwell can currently be fought with the Crowd Favorite gambit added at ZERO risk, due to the two boss’s aggro radius not being large enough to capture players that stay at the edge of the arena.
I’ve capture a video demonstrating the flaw in this encounter. This is a huge design error and should be rectified immediately.
Note: I’ve posted this thread to both the Queen’s Jubilee and Game Bugs subsections in the hopes that it gets a dev response sooner rather than later.
Attention Devs, I hope you read this post!
Deadeye Dunwell can currently be fought with the Crowd Favorite gambit added at ZERO risk, due to the two boss’s aggro radius not being large enough to capture players that stay at the edge of the arena.
I’ve capture a video demonstrating the flaw in this encounter. This is a huge design error and should be rectified immediately.
Note: I’ve posted this thread to both the Queen’s Jubilee and Game Bugs subsections in the hopes that it gets a dev response sooner rather than later.
It’s called inflation guys.
Gold will be devalued if he doesn’t get nerfed.
Oh, how much inflation have we experienced then? What goods are you including in your basket when you calculate your consumer price index?
Usain Bolt: lol 10s in the 100m is easy I do it all the time
Tiger Woods: lol green jacket? please I have like 4, so easy
Michael Jordan: I basically a.f.k. on the court and they keep giving me these rings
Emmit Smith: yeah 18,000 rushing yards was pretty simple any scrub can do it lol
Well with the amount of money coming from Gauntlets as well as Champion farming and Dungeons, it’s entirely feasible that Anet meant this update to fill our pockets a bit.
Drop a load of turrets, that should work too (if that’s the trigger).
@ Cookie
You’re right, we should play worse party compositions because that’s all the game is about.I wouldn’t call running around with two guardians effective. But i guess that comes down to personal experience.
Oh come on, get off your irrational guardian hate. Just because your group doesn’t need them doesn’t mean no one can get through fractals smoothly and efficiently with them.
Any berserker-specced class can do this well, but here’s how I originally started doing it on Guardian.
The only thing I think should be nerfed is the fact that he doesn’t aggro if you’re on the edge of the arena. This is letting people just sit there and wait for him to TP, which is weak. Folks are also setting up Crowd Favorite and the Quaggan doesn’t aggro if you pull or if you just wait for the TP. Super weak.
I don’t think the fact that I am a total kitten was ever up for debate. If that’s the only objection you have with me I can save you some time right now. It’s true.
EDIT: Anet word filters plz
So since the conversation steered towards our interpretation of claims being made, would you be willing to plainly state your idea of the optimal group comp for speedclearing dungeons?
Wait is this how this works now!?
Okay umm triple/quadruple Ele teams are the shiz!
Ranger will be in the new meta!
Necro’s aren’t as bad as everyone thinks and can easily replace extra Warriors!
Thief Venom Sharing is OP!
Guardian on Fiery Greatsword does the most damage!
If at least one of these turns out to be true you must worship me you degenerate players! NOW GO PROVE MY WILD CLAIMS!Is Guang willing to prevent bad builds, but not able?
Then he is not knowledgeable.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh the bad builds?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him Guang?
omfg
<3 your posts
Oh okay xD
Even my phone looks like your image, Broad needs to uninstall Internet Explorer
I use Chrome with AdBlock, kitten you. I should just delete this post but I don’t believe in hiding my mistakes.
Are we talking about an exploit/bug here?
Anything anet doesn’t like is an exploit.
Or a bug. “Fixed a bug that allowed players to actually make a handful of pocket change from the Aetherized Mantle.”
a man deciding he needs to defend women
How about you drop this ridiculous “white knight” attack and argue the ideas on their merits rather than insinuating any man on the other side is in it for ulterior motives. It’s the oldest bullkitten derail in the book. It makes you look pathetic.
Even after killing him 800x he still surprises me with the occasional Aimed Shot spam into a Killshot , or simple bugs. Certain pods minefields are placed too close together and certain pods makes Quaggan function properly. Don’t believe me try it for yourself , some pods Quaggan will just sit there till you port past him or hit him in some fashion and others he will rush you as if you hit him fresh out the gates.
So regardless still alot of risk involved when doing this…
I don’t take quaggan for that reason. I’ll like stuff more controllable, even if that means it may take more time and effort.
Are you telling me on the gambit i have the option to pick the Crowd’s Favorite?
Nah he means he’ll take fewer gambits to be on the safe side. Crowd Favorite is always the Quaggan.
When the optimal way to complete content is a mechanic which favours a couple of professions, there is a problem. Professions can be different, that’s fine. An example of this being done well is Spotter and Empower Allies. One allows the ranger to give a unique party precision buff, the other allows a warrior to give a unique party power buff. Neither of these skills will dramatically alter a fight the way Feedback does yet both of them allow the two classes to contribute in a unique way.
There will always be one optimal way to complete content, versus all the other ways. Perhaps all the other ways can be close, but There Can Be Only One (Optimal Way).
Coincidentally, Spotter and Empower Allies are some of the very reasons why bringing a Ranger and a Warrior into your group is part of the optimal formula for dungeon clearing.
What’s weird is that when pugs used to (still do sometimes I guess) range him from the top of the pit it didn’t trigger that.
Does the class in question use long cooldown? If you have to wait for long cooldown, it wont’ matter if you can kill in 5 second.
I know guardian can kill it before it teleport, wonder what other class can do it.
Thief should be able to do it in the same amount of time as my guardian video or less, with lower cooldowns. I’ve tried it a few times but I’m nowhere near good on my thief so I couldn’t quite get it down.
look at that scrub mesmer not even shattering once. disgusting, ugh.
He didn’t have to, so why shatter? XD
The iSwordsman and the iDuelest will do more damage unshattered if the guy wasn’t running a shatter build and from the looks of it he wasn’t. That said be could have shattered before the big AoE, but other than that he probably benefitted more by keeping his illusions up.
I’m the mesmer, lol.
And yeah I meant to shatter before the AoE attacks. Preferably an F3 before the first hit that took my Duelist and Swordsman, then a Mind Wrack right before the hit at the end. But oh well, next time!
That is not a woman, therefore none of the opinions of this thread matter.
That is a machine, not a woman. There is a big difference. Your actually discriminating against woman and humanity for believing such.
It’s a representation of the humanoid female form. Don’t be coy.
Art is not above criticism for its societal impact. Neither are absurdly busty sexbots in a vidya gaem.
Here are three robot designs which have plainly female characteristics without being overtly hyper-sexualized to the point of absurdity.
Yeah I guess they literally had no choice other than giving that female robot a set of 44DDD’s and a trunk overflowing with junk.
If you want to complain about big breasts and curvy hips, you really don’t need to go that far.
So, in light of the Norn and Human physiques being much worse than the Watchknights, except for the fact that they got some ornate design on their bum, what is so bad about someone wanting to design a female robot?
Oh believe me, I have my gripes about Norn and Human models and outfits as well. But this thread was about Watchknights.
And nothing is wrong with a Watchknight having female characteristics. The problem is the abundance of hyper-sexualized juvenile fantasy body types being used for those female representations. As I’ve said. Many times.
Specifically, “the problem” is not the existence of it, and people who are spinning this into some puritannical crusade to ban displays of sexuality are either unintentionally or willfully obfuscating the point while engaging in a massive strawman fallacy. The problem is the societal effect these representations have when our media is full of them.
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For his kill shot, only blind, evade, and invulnerability work. It’s essentially the same attack that Deadeyes in Arah Path 2 have.
But yeah, I don’t understand why the thief thread was deleted.
That was simply an example of the kind of person he is. But I guess no one really gives a kitten about how crappy someone’s personality is on this game eh
I don’t like tone arguments but it probably would not have helped Galileo if he just barged into the church and said “UGH YOU’RE ALL IDIOTS I DON’T HAVE TO PROVE CRAP JUST LOOK AT MY SPREADSHEETS IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE THE HELIOCENTRIC MODEL. HURRR THE SCRIPTURE DICTATES GEOCENTRISM HURR I’M AN ECUMENICAL MORON WHO DOESN’T KNOW ANYTHING”
Projectile reflects and absorbs are available on: Guardian, Mesmer, Thief, Engineer, Ranger, Elementalist, and Warrior (though no one in their right mind would trait for it). Necro should be given one. An absorb would make the most sense, perhaps on Spectral Wall. Not everyone gets to reflect, but almost everyone has a way to nullify projectiles. Reflections aren’t “becoming” powerful, they already are. But there’s no reason they should be nerfed. Some classes have to have things that others don’t.
Every time you guys do this, you just keep building on the problem that you seem to think you’re fighting against.
This constant assault on anything in any media that has females in it only serves to create a taboo around the female form and ultimately make it so that any female figure must – by definition – be reduced to only her physical parts.
No, it’s not an assault on women appearing in media, it’s an assault on pointlessly hyper-sexualised and unrealistic depictions of women in media. The Watchknights could have easily been modeled in a less curvacious style, but the designers decided to make them SexBots.
Oh dear, oh dear…
I would understand it if you were forced to stare at those boobs in that size and range during cutscenes or something. Or if there was a mission that turned you into a Watchknight so you had no choice but to check out that butt.
But the most common setting? In combat. I dunno, but I don’t look at boobies while in combat.
I wonder if any of the people here who are complaining about how the Watchknight is supposedly fanservice stopped to wonder if someone just … you know, wanted to make a female robot.
Yeah I guess they literally had no choice other than giving that female robot a set of 44DDD’s and a trunk overflowing with junk.
http://womenfighters.tumblr.com/ for examples of how women could be put into games without being overtly sexualised
look at that scrub mesmer not even shattering once. disgusting, ugh.
What does “overall usefulness” mean if not “you are better with this class than without”? “Best class for carrying pugs” is a totally different claim. Honestly, would LOD take
Engineer
Guardian
Ranger
Warrior
Mesmer
And consider that the absolute best party comp for what most of us in this forum do, try to run dungeons as efficiently as possible?
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That comment was a continuation of the conversation that’s been ongoing for several weeks. If I recall correctly the most excessive claims came from some other thread a while back where he listed the classes in order of general PvE utility.
Edit: ^^^^That one.
But ok, to show I can do it, if it was his idea originally that Rangers should be brought along, he was right.
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Nikaido you should go and review the claims Guang has made here and then you’ll understand why I and some others ridicule him. He never once made the claim “Hey engineers do fine DPS and they can be in your dungeon class rotation without slowing anything down”. The claim was more along the lines of “ENGINEER MAX DEEPS. WARRIORS SUX. IDIOTS.”
And therein lies part of the issue we have when discussing these ideas, because people rarely differentiate at the outset between “fastest possible, world-record-setting team comp” and “acceptable team comp for regular dungeon runs”.
I mean, go ahead and take your engy-based group through a whole path faster than it would be possible without one. If you manage to do that, I’ll be the first to congratulate you. Otherwise, all you’re proving is that they’re an acceptable class for the fifth slot. Which isn’t really a stunning revelation.
EDIT: Case in point, people saying bringing more than 1 warrior is “a bad idea” or “old news”. Are you setting records, or just getting through the a whole path in an acceptable timeframe? The conversation is drastically different depending on the context. Five necros in Sentinel’s gear is a bad idea. Bringing more than one warrior is not.
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I only have adblock and I get the big white spaces, I just don’t complain about it
Some of us have different priorities!
It’d be nice just for once to be able to play a game that wasn’t made for 13 year old boys by 13 year old boys.
There’s boob jiggle when wearing plate armor, eff eff ess.
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