Guild Wars 2

Morwath.9817:

Browrain.7346:

Not sure we should get into EU vs NA top teams skill factor. Unless you’d like to go over who won the last WTS

You mean the one WTS before which one EU compositions got nerfed, so our amazing Celestial heroes could fight back?

Maybe I should remember you how Orange Logo trashed Abjured in Boston winning 2nd game 500-100 like it would be Hot Join game?

Anyway, NA is so amazing I’m always falling asleep during those Pro League matches.

I’m confused. Did NA or EU win the most recent WTS?

Teutos.8620:

NeXeD.3042:

Oh i get it you think he’s joking calling the rest of EU trash…. lol

Since Helseth opinion seems to mean so much to you, I’d not recommend you to watch him analyze the NA pro league matches. It would break your heart comparing NA pro league to EU hot-join.

We EU-SoloQ players might just be peasant, but at least (in his humble opinion) there is a difference between Hot-Join level (and therefore the MMR entry level, Abjured played against the last couple of days) and the normal soloQ players.

Not sure we should get into EU vs NA top teams skill factor. Unless you’d like to go over who won the last WTS

Morwath.9817:

NeXeD.3042:

I believe you mean the Oracle now.

Does character name make any difference?

NeXeD.3042:

No problem just don’t think anyone being called a peasant should champion the one who called them it.

It his way to be… divide world into Lords and Peasant… we probably would be annoyed, if we wouldn’t be old enough to threat joke as joke.

But not old enough to create a sentence that actually makes sense I guess.

Ohoni.6057:

Ok, I’ll bite. What is “PvP” about the wings themselves? If they had put them on the gem store, or locked them behind some PvE collection quest, what would make you think “OMG, those are totally PvP wings, as a PvPer, i simply MUST have those wings!”

So, who are you to decide this? It’s not like you actually answered the question.

That’s not answering the question. People keep insisting “these are PvP wings, of course they should be for PvPers only!” Well if so, it shouldn’t be difficult to point out what it is, exactly, about the wings themselves, regardless of the existing methods of acquiring them, that makes them definitely “PvP only.”

Because Anet says they are pvp wings. Don’t think we don’t see your point of view. We do. It’s just we all think it’s wrong. While making them non-exclusive to pvp would benefit you, it would take away from the intrinsic value it has for most pvpers who worked to get it. Something isn’t special if everyone can get it. I would guess half the reason people are wearing them is because it shows what they’ve accomplished in pvp.

trytonianYeti.4389:

Browrain.7346:

cakeonroof.7385:

Teutos.8620:

trytonianYeti.4389:

Yeah they get faster queue times so they can GO AGAINST SOLOQERS WITH NO CHANCE OF WINNING VS THEM.

Maybe they just didn’t knew, they are playing with a new MMR. Maybe farming the other team is just normal for them because on NA there is no difference between playing on new MMR and on top MMR xD shots fired

lmao

Browrain.7346:

EU fanbois rise up! Continue to stroke each others egos.

how are we fan bois? we don’t just love a particular team, we love our entire community. And for the most part, our community respects us back. Sorry you cant say the same about NA and top teams exploiting guys like you.

That’s why helseth calls 95% of his soloq teammates trash. Because he respects all of you so much

Youre like the media, you take things out of context to convey your message. He said soloQ is trash when it comes to going against teams (car crashed). That was pretty obvious to everyone except you.

Still, I’d rather have guys like him than guys farming our community. Have you seen how filthy disgusting the NA roster is? And you defend that?

I no longer want to respond to you. Stupidity is contagious.

You’re joking right? He’s been calling all of you trash long before HoT ever came out. It has nothing to do with going up against premades. I’ve seen Leeto say the same thing about you EU pugers. So much respect in your community Kappa

cakeonroof.7385:

Teutos.8620:

trytonianYeti.4389:

Yeah they get faster queue times so they can GO AGAINST SOLOQERS WITH NO CHANCE OF WINNING VS THEM.

Maybe they just didn’t knew, they are playing with a new MMR. Maybe farming the other team is just normal for them because on NA there is no difference between playing on new MMR and on top MMR xD shots fired

lmao

Browrain.7346:

EU fanbois rise up! Continue to stroke each others egos.

how are we fan bois? we don’t just love a particular team, we love our entire community. And for the most part, our community respects us back. Sorry you cant say the same about NA and top teams exploiting guys like you.

That’s why helseth calls 95% of his soloq teammates trash. Because he respects all of you so much

EU fanbois rise up! Continue to stroke each others egos.

Agreed. I made a thread about this not too long ago. The season is too short for most people to make significant progress.

DeShadowWolf.6854:

Opc.4718:

I’m pretty sure this guy is a troll lol.

If he is, he’s been at it for over a year.

Ohoni.6057:

Who are you to decide this?

Ok, I’ll bite. What is “PvP” about the wings themselves? If they had put them on the gem store, or locked them behind some PvE collection quest, what would make you think “OMG, those are totally PvP wings, as a PvPer, i simply MUST have those wings!”

So, who are you to decide this? It’s not like you actually answered the question.

The Greyhawk.9107:

Ohoni.6057:

They are not PvP wings. They are for all wings. The devs just decided to play them behind PvP activities. There’s absolutely nothing “PvP” about the wings themselves, and if PvP didn’t exist you’d be able to earn them through some other means.

Who are you to decide this?

I’ve learned it’s pointless to argue with Ohoni. If possible, he claims that it’s in the name of ‘equality’ or ‘other playstyles’ even if it actively destroys a playstyle. When challenged on it, he defaults to ‘well this is how it should be!’ When you point out that this is just his personal, subjective opinion, he ignores that and continues arguing. If you continue to argue with him, he will just make the same arguments over and over. Then, by the time he loses enough times, he’s made a new thread (here) arguing for the same things in a slightly different context.

Completely agree. Good job summing it up.

If I had it my way, you wouldn’t be playing that dumb bunker mes build along with every other mes in ranked.

Ohoni.6057:

I’d like the dungeon master title without ever going to a single dungeon.

Personally, I have no objection, but I really think that titles and visual items are very different things. Personally, I don’t support giving players access to PvP titles like “Legendary Champion” without actually playing PvP, but I consider that something else entirely than a cosmetic reward which actually has inherent value. If you want that sort of thing, argue your case for it, but it is not my case.

So far I think everyone here disagrees with you on this. ANet will listen to the majority and keep these wings exclusive to pvp.

Vennyhedgie.5369:

Ohoni.6057:

I want PvE rewards without ever setting foot in PvE too.

And I want that for you. Good luck!

“Reward tracks”
You also get transmutation charges and level up tomes from those.
GL getting transmutation charges in pve other than grinding map completion for te 10th time

I’d like the dungeon master title without ever going to a single dungeon.

I want PvE rewards without ever setting foot in PvE too. I also want to win the lottery without ever wasting money buying a ticket. I’d also like to earn my degree without paying for college or going to classes.

trytonianYeti.4389:

This is why it’s hard to respect and take seriously the “top 2” NA pro teams. The most respectable team in NA is Never Lucky. It was heart warming what they last Monday.

Because EU isn’t doing the exact same thing.

Ven Zehn.6573:

Evan, not sure if that system is working correctly then, Lord Helseth has a vid of him losing 2 pips when winning, with 1 d/c’ed team mate, that didn’t log back in within the grace period. Just wanted to bring it to your attention.

Oh he knows. I’m sure every dev has seen it at this point. I think there hasn’t been an official response on here to it is because the only thing they have left to say about it is “we messed up”.

Evan Lesh.3295:

I would wait longer than 3 days and at least until after we enable decay before making a judgement on how the team leaderboard will settle out. It is not our intention that a single team of players has the time to possibly keep that many entries at the top of the leaderboard.

Why not? They could play on each guild team once every couple days to prevent decay.

geekanerd.4123:

Browrain.7346:

Actually I heard they’re abusing it like this to bring awareness to the issue. EU is no different, with Car Crashed claiming the top 3 spots.

I think Anet will be forced to address it before the end of the season.

That’s noble. It’s similar to why I do meth: To bring awareness to how bad it is for you.

Does your doing meth show up on a top-meth user leaderboard? I’d be interested in knowing who’s #1

One side would lag. Try playing on an EU server while you live in NA, or vice-versa. Your ping would put you at a disadvantage.

Actually I heard they’re abusing it like this to bring awareness to the issue. EU is no different, with Car Crashed claiming the top 3 spots.

I think Anet will be forced to address it before the end of the season.

Teutos.8620:

Browrain.7346:

The better you are, the more likely you are to win.

Not if the mmr system works how it should. If you are better, than you are also facing better opponents and therefore you are winning as much games as a bad player facing bad opponents.

Which I mentioned before. That’s a matchmaking issue, which I agree should be changed but it’s not what this topic is about.

MithranArkanere.8957:

Gabriell.4856:

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Care to apply logic to Mesmer shatter? In that case, Mesmer should insta die from using any F abilities.

Clones and phantasms are hollow. Mesmers that shatter on their location are shattering a clone that is around them like a second skin, not themselves.

I can tell you’re trying very hard, but I think deep down you know you’re wrong here. There’s no way ANet implemented this nerf based on “realism”

You probably shouldn’t discuss team strats mid-game in “map chat”

Teutos.8620:

Browrain.7346:

Didn’t mention skill level at all, which obviously will factor in.

No, skill level is not factored into the league system. Which is THE big problem of the league system.

It does not matter if you win against a low mmr player or a high mmr player. The reward is still only a pip.

….

When I say it’s a factor, I mean an inherent one. The better you are, the more likely you are to win. I know the system can contradict this by putting you with lower mmr players or against premades, but that’s an entirely different issue.

Your whisper to that other guy made me laugh. “Runked”

meow one twenty.4376:

Browrain.7346:

meow one twenty.4376:

Browrain.7346:

meow one twenty.4376:

Getting diamond/legendary is supposed to be only for the extremely good and/or devoted. It’s counterintuitive to the rest of GW2, but it was designed to be.

That would still be the case if the season was twice as long. It would just give people who are decent, but have jobs/irl commitments, a chance to make it to the division they belong in.

But then you would only need to be half as devoted. You aren’t supposed to be “decent” and make it to legendary, sorry.

I didn’t say decent players belonged in legendary. They deserve to end up in the division that is representative of their skill, whether that be emerald, ruby, diamond, etc. As it stands a lot of good players don’t have the opportunity to climb to the division they belong in because of how short the season is.

Weird, this is very much not at all what you were saying in your OP. The problem is how you gain pips, as pointed out above. Not how long you have to gain them.

Weird, in my OP I said people would have to spend 5+ hours a day doing ranked just to have a chance at diamond/legendary. Didn’t mention skill level at all, which obviously will factor in.

meow one twenty.4376:

Browrain.7346:

meow one twenty.4376:

Getting diamond/legendary is supposed to be only for the extremely good and/or devoted. It’s counterintuitive to the rest of GW2, but it was designed to be.

That would still be the case if the season was twice as long. It would just give people who are decent, but have jobs/irl commitments, a chance to make it to the division they belong in.

But then you would only need to be half as devoted. You aren’t supposed to be “decent” and make it to legendary, sorry.

I didn’t say decent players belonged in legendary. They deserve to end up in the division that is representative of their skill, whether that be emerald, ruby, diamond, etc. As it stands a lot of good players don’t have the opportunity to climb to the division they belong in because of how short the season is.

meow one twenty.4376:

Getting diamond/legendary is supposed to be only for the extremely good and/or devoted. It’s counterintuitive to the rest of GW2, but it was designed to be.

That would still be the case if the season was twice as long. It would just give people who are decent, but have jobs/irl commitments, a chance to make it to the division they belong in.

I’m a little curious as to why the seasons are so short. I would think most people don’t have time to spend 5+ hours a day doing ranked, but it seems like that’s what it would take to make it to diamond/legendary in less than 2 months.

Wouldn’t something like 4 months be more appropriate?

Raithwall.8201:

much easier answer…
there are fewer permanent tonics ingame than batwings(*4)
so there is no point at all in those batwings.
they just are utterly useless

I guess that would explain it. Something else restricted to only Halloween being in such a low quantity would definitely dissuade people from even trying.

Wondering why the price of these have been plummeting. If they can’t be obtained anymore post-Halloween and are still required to make Nightfury, wouldn’t simple economics have their price slowly increase over time. The only thing I can think of is that people are seeing the prices go down and start panic-selling theirs, making the prices go down even further. But maybe I’m missing something…?

At least you didn’t mix up “loose” and “lose”. Ty for that.

Nice attempt at All is Vain

I’ve always wondered what the gold goes towards when we’re taxed a certain amount on our trade post transactions. In real life, taxes are paid to build roads, pay gov’t employees, teachers, etc. What could ANet possibly do with fake in-game taxed gold? Or is it just to prevent more people from playing the market to earn the majority of their gold?

EU was boring to watch and they didn’t look better at all. But don’t worry, your bias is only showing a little bit.

Why is it clear that EU will be more competitive than NA?

fumcheg.1936:

still have no idea who is Teldo

Teldo was a member of Team Paradigm. They were the team dominating EU and NA before Abjured, Orng, or TCG ever existed. Phantaram was on Paradigm as well, I’m sure you’ve heard of him.

I hope they completely remove commander tag from PvE. You “command” solely in wvw. That was its original purpose. Spending 300g doesn’t mean you deserve more vanity points in pve than anyone else, including mentors.

It took you 3 years to beat the mad king jump puzzle? I can’t imagine how long some of the harder PvE jump puzzles must have taken you..

You kited down the hill when they outnumbered you, which was the correct play. You and your friend won the 2v2. The 3rd guy came in after you downed the 1st guy, and you guys basically just cleaved the corpse. Scrapper is OP, but this vid isn’t a good example. Any class could have done it.

choovanski.5462:

Browrain.7346:

choovanski.5462:

Browrain.7346:

choovanski.5462:

Browrain.7346:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

you forgot thief can perma blind with black powder.

quit complaining about stealth being under powered.

it is not.

Is this for real? Please explain how anyone can be perma blinded by black powder without standing still inside of it.

there are actually a few ways you can do it.

ah, and like DIVA I support the removal of stealth from the game. it’s too strong tactically.

What other ways? Spamming shadow shot? There’s no way to constantly blind someone without completely wasting initiative.

http://youtu.be/PGNiXGX2nLU

Great rebuttal.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Whirl_finisher

Only works if the thief whirls inside black powder (which basically means he has to stand still). It used to be bugged and let the thief move outside the BP while still perma blinding, which was OP but got fixed. A thief standing still in BP whirling is incredibly vulnerable.

choovanski.5462:

Browrain.7346:

choovanski.5462:

Browrain.7346:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

you forgot thief can perma blind with black powder.

quit complaining about stealth being under powered.

it is not.

Is this for real? Please explain how anyone can be perma blinded by black powder without standing still inside of it.

there are actually a few ways you can do it.

ah, and like DIVA I support the removal of stealth from the game. it’s too strong tactically.

What other ways? Spamming shadow shot? There’s no way to constantly blind someone without completely wasting initiative.

http://youtu.be/PGNiXGX2nLU

Great rebuttal.

choovanski.5462:

Browrain.7346:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

you forgot thief can perma blind with black powder.

quit complaining about stealth being under powered.

it is not.

Is this for real? Please explain how anyone can be perma blinded by black powder without standing still inside of it.

there are actually a few ways you can do it.

ah, and like DIVA I support the removal of stealth from the game. it’s too strong tactically.

What other ways? Spamming shadow shot? There’s no way to constantly blind someone without completely wasting initiative.

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

you forgot thief can perma blind with black powder.

quit complaining about stealth being under powered.

it is not.

Is this for real? Please explain how anyone can be perma blinded by black powder without standing still inside of it.

Rentapest.6503:

Wake up devs and stop balancing this game around PvP!

Didn’t read the rest past this point. The devs have favored PvE compared to PvP since the game’s release. Saying they balance this game around PvP is a complete joke.

The only thing getting to max level in PvE will help you with in PvP is having a basic understanding of the weapon skills and utility skills.

There is no need for you to wait until max level in PvE before you start PvP. Just dive in.

You should probably live in a bubble and eat cheerios in solitude for the rest of your life if one person in a video game made you quit. I guarantee you won’t find any game online or in real life that doesn’t have at least one person like the one you mentioned.

Jasher.6580:

“Abjured only wins because there are no good teams/players in North America.”

EU players are still saying this after NA just won WTS? That’s kind of funny.

Atherakhia.4086:

You want to know the sad thing? Despite the issues you’re having, Engi magnet is still the most reliable pull in the game.

Yeah I don’t play necro and I’ve never used scorpion wire on my thief so I didn’t really consider other pulls. It all needs to be fixed.

As a zerk engi, pull is a huge factor that leads up to my burst. It failing is huge.

Father Busho.2796:

I have gotten used to jumping when using magnet pull just before it lands, its a nice trick to pull from places above you etc. It doesn’t fix the problem but I got a lot less desyncs than before.

That would delay pry bar.

I’m sure this has been a topic before. Engi magnet bugs/desyncs way too much. It’s even worse now than it was pre-patch. I’d say about 60-70% of my pulls fail. The enemy usually just falls to their feet in the place they were standing.

Pls fix