Guild Wars 2

g e o.2589:

I am trying to choose a race Sylvari, Norn or Charr for Engi need advice of how good Charr story is.

Out of all the races storyline I played through. I’ll have to say the Charr’s storyline kept me entertained and especially the opening intro for them. Glorious intro.

Hyperion.4638:

Can this topic be closed already, we already stated that HS can be counted by many many spells and the simple is poison, lol 400 hp when even auto attack deals more than that is a joke so lets just move on…

I agree… the guy couldn’t even come up with a build. Only gibberish…disappointed…

TheDevice.2751:

Ehh I mean whatever bring some data or something tangible than “get good or uninstall”

I mean I find it funny how some of you with the “pff because pro players know how to get around it so how can it be op” when I’m pretty sure all of you have found something about the game imbalanced and have commented on in a thread in the past. Maybe… like excessive blinds? But when warriors are in question it’s just you’re bad lol

You and others still haven’t shared us a build yet. All you guys doing is spreading pollution.

TheDevice.2751:

How does this not make healing signet OP?

Because it doesn’t save me from pro players that know what they’re doing. Seriously though, you guys seem like this ability is more than meets the eye. Share us this build you guys are using so we the warrior community can feel godlike too. Otherwise I consider this nothing more than a troll thread which leaves to this meme spewing out lies to break something that isn’t broken.

Even with that build I’ll die quick depending on the opponent. You either was being carried, good team support or that good in general. I’m not buying that other crap you’re spewing out or else I would be saying Healing Signet is OP, but it isn’t. It’s just a decent average regen heal now that goes well with certain builds and not all.

Well if you guys buy the Xmas clothes for F charrs. They do wear the dress.
Had these outfits since last year and I think they’ll be recurring soon.
So buy them up and feel purrty. Roar.

Man I wish I fought the guys you’re fighting in pvp cause I get roflstomp even when using healing signet. That 400 tick never saving my bunz so you guys must got god mode builds or something.

Wanna share the secret with the rest of us curious newbies?

Sube Dai.8496:

I quite like it in pve but the damage is too low for wvw, and #5 is just suicide.

I’ve found a decent combo with #4 and #5 when using the haste ability. DW axe could use a damage buff for sure cause even with 30 points in skirmishing it still hits low. I’ve been running a zerker defense build and my only problem is zerker mesmers atm.

I’ll try out a condition build for it soon once I find a decent physical damage dealer build.

Can dw axe combo be treated as a damage dealer and condition type? Still trying to decide which route to take and what are decent builds for that weapon.

If Healing Signet needed a nerf then they would’ve of done it this patch. Obviously they’ve tested it out and saw no problem with it.

whirlwind axe to reflect range attacks like the thieves

Full plated, Half plated, Gladiator outfit and a Roman Gladiator Skirt. As long it has different designs from the default male versions. I’m cool with it.

Don’t go bunker. You’ll be wasting your time and your teammates. Not good bro…not good at all.

Phaeton.9582:

Oh people are talking about PvE builds I take it.. Don’t mind me then.

Cleansing ire is a must if anyone here isn’t..

Totally pvp for me and yeah cleansing ire is a must. I love using whirling axes while dodging because it does add pressure on your opponent /opponents :P.

I was wondering if other players was running with DW axes as well using different builds.

Thanks in advance.

Hey all I’m looking for a good DW axe build. Any out there?
So far atm my DW axe build 20/0/30/0/20 using berserker amulet and orge runes. It runs okay…sometimes :P

Please help thanks

Opynn.2936:

Its very good to buy some time or just to annoy people. Thank you for remiding me how awesome it is

Death from above is a great trait that Anet implemented in and fits the theme of a warrior.

That skill is very useful when saving teammates or just like Splat Zone posted buying sometime until reinforcements shows up.

Death of the above potential right there

Jiminy.8340:

Give it a 20 second cool down…which is how long it was taking the warrior to climb back up the stairs and throw himself off them again.

Hahaha I know you’re all trolling about the cool down thought, but even if that applies. You’re aware that all falling reduce damage traits will share the same fate regardless of what bonuses the trait provides them right?

Jett.1239:

It’s unfortunate that warriors are essentially a hard counter to terrible players.

Amen to that…

Hane.8695:

Brutalistik.6473:

Hane.8695:

a t s e.9614:

Guys stop QQing , the hammer is still fairly strong with a DPS build . Stop being a little rabbit and running with soldier gear . Learn to use a burst set for god sake .

He is right you just have to run 0/20/30/0/20 not 10/10/20/0/30 and zergers will still work with that you don’t NEED soldiers.

and some of us may not won’t to spec towards that. Keep that in mind..who suffers the most out of it? Not every warrior wants to be burst builds, but also they don’t want to be nerf because of those players who abused it.

I know this and I was just offering an alternative build for after the up date, and it isn’t abuse if it isn’t a bug or hack, it’s use of resources the mez fall trait bug was abuse there is no bug here. And what suffering? If its so bad that they made a small build to change something they didn’t see that you stated don’t affect you why do you care at all. I think you’re just looking for someone to yell at and prove your better then.

I use a hammer weapon, but not this meta build they speak of. That’s why I’m defending the hammer nerf. I’m not looking for someone to yell at and neither would I lead to that assumption. It’ll make me look unprofessional.

Hane.8695:

a t s e.9614:

Guys stop QQing , the hammer is still fairly strong with a DPS build . Stop being a little rabbit and running with soldier gear . Learn to use a burst set for god sake .

He is right you just have to run 0/20/30/0/20 not 10/10/20/0/30 and zergers will still work with that you don’t NEED soldiers.

and some of us may not won’t to spec towards that. Keep that in mind..who suffers the most out of it? Not every warrior wants to be burst builds, but also they don’t want to be nerf because of those players who abused it.

Butnaked.9287:

Brutalistik.6473:

JonPeters.5630:

• Arms IV – Unsuspecting Foe. Moved to Master Tier.
• Earthshaker. Reduced damage by 20%.
• Staggering Blow. Reduced damage by 23%.

Jon I understand this was most likely the reason hammer getting this treatment even though it’s not finalize.

However don’t nerf Earthshaker damage nor Staggering Blow due to the unsuspecting foe bonuses. This will affect builds that isn’t primarily focus in burst damage forcing them to choose another weapon that can fulfill average damage. Losing a CC weapon is one thing, but using a CC weapon doing horrendous damage on it’s burst skill and number # 5 attack on a non zerker build is absurd. This will lead into more frustration in pvp overall on that warrior player and I’m sure we all don’t want that.

I suggest unsuspecting foe is move into the grandmaster tier to those that wishes to be pure burst builds. They will be dangerous but they’ll also be taken down quickly once their endure pain or block duration is gone. They’ll most likely play a build like build 0/30/10/0/30 or 0/30/20/0/20 for some defense though it won’t support them as much.

So please Jon reconsider this thought just not for me, but for all non burst warrior build players. We too have a say in this.

the nerfs are overkill. UF/BM changes will get rid of that meta hammer build while leaving the other builds(ie the hammer support builds) intact.

It will affect all warriors that doesn’t use that meta hammer build. I know that for a fact. The damage reduction is not needed for the 2 hammer skills. Just move the UF tier skill to grandmaster. It’s traits what makes a player’s build powerful.

JonPeters.5630:

• Arms IV – Unsuspecting Foe. Moved to Master Tier.
• Earthshaker. Reduced damage by 20%.
• Staggering Blow. Reduced damage by 23%.

Jon I understand this was most likely the reason hammer getting this treatment even though it’s not finalize.

However don’t nerf Earthshaker damage nor Staggering Blow due to the unsuspecting foe bonuses. This will affect builds that isn’t primarily focus in burst damage forcing them to choose another weapon that can fulfill average damage. Losing a CC weapon is one thing, but using a CC weapon doing horrendous damage on it’s burst skill and number # 5 attack on a non zerker build is absurd. This will lead into more frustration in pvp overall on that warrior player and I’m sure we all don’t want that.

I suggest unsuspecting foe is move into the grandmaster tier to those that wishes to be pure burst builds. They will be dangerous but they’ll also be taken down quickly once their endure pain or block duration is gone. They’ll most likely play a build like build 0/30/10/0/30 or 0/30/20/0/20 for some defense though it won’t support them as much.

So please Jon reconsider this thought just not for me, but for all non burst warrior build players. We too have a say in this.

Yaki.9563:

Scoobaniec.9561:

So the strategy is..whine and its will get nerfed.. Now i know what ill be doing on class subforums and spvp. I actually wonder what goes to get nerfed, if its UF its can hurt axe/sword+shield power builds.

For me its sound like UW getting moved to GM making it a worthless trait.

You’re probably too blinded by your Warrior playing delusions to think straight, but people tend to “whine” about what is OP.

No dude..that’s the pvp norm today whenever a underdog class becomes viable. Whiners will complain until it gets nerf and developers will always listen or them too gets owned by it.

Players cried about the 100blades, it’s combo got nerf for a long time. Now it’s hammer time which isn’t severely OP, but other classes think so.

Yes I know it’s CC heavy and I wouldn’t fight them unless I have no choice.

Lupanic.6502:

Jackums.3496:

JonathanSharp.7094:

Warriors are pretty strong right now, but will be seeing changes in an upcoming patch.

We like how they can be tanky, and we like how they can do DPS if they want. We also like the CC they can bring. We just don’t like them doing it all with 1 build.

And Necros? They’re the reason for the Warriors’ absurd condition resistance right now, aren’t they? They’re as much an imbalance in this meta as Warriors are.

Just as a single Warrior build should not have access to chain stun, high damage, and great tanking ability, no single Necro build should have access to chain fear, high condition damage, and great tanking ability. They’re in the same boat.

good point.

This can go both ways with teleport break stuns and stealth. So many counters in this game yet no one acknowledges it or chooses not to.

Garb Cost.3718:

Brutalistik.6473:

Garb Cost.3718:

Scoobaniec.9561:

QQ kids won… Be ready to get nerfs, im gonna join QQ train bc its easier to whine and nerf everything into ground than adapt..

Wow… I for one have never seen such outrage on forums about one particular class. Don’t get me wrong, not every thread was accurate but the complaints were consistent and, in general, I think they were pretty much right.

It baffles me when people just dig in their heels and point-blank refuse to see what is in front of them.

What is ironic is how you are moaning about people adapting yet it seems you are refusing to do this yourself before you even know what the changes are. Ironic.

I also like how the drama queens have started – “A nerf?! OH NO WE ARE GOING TO BE FREE KILLS NOW!!”

Nah they weren’t right…..it’s warcraft mentality, or just not adapting at all. If you can’t beat the warrior structure mainly for pvp then make a complaint. That seems to be the norm of every pvp mmo now & days. The complainers think X class are OP because they haven’t found any new ways to beat them nor they want to take the time.

Of course the developers will say anything to keep their (customers happy) why even bother arguing back? That’s a no brainer.

Nobody likes being CC, but no one else told you to chase down the warrior either thinking they’re free kills. Bring back up next time or does that hurts your ego?

Which is why I said that not every forum post yelling for a warrior nerf was right, but you have just gone ahead and made a generalisation. You also have a massive sweeping statement in there that the only reason a nerf is incoming is because people haven’t found ways to beat them and don’t want to spend the time trying – also grossly innaccurate.

As for, “Nobody likes being CC, but no one else told you to chase down the warrior either thinking they’re free kills. Bring back up next time or does that hurts your ego?” I have no idea what you are saying here – sorry.

I’ve been doing pvp for a long time usually when the underdog class gets something good. Everyone that doesn’t plays it and gets defeated by its new features. A uproar starts up on the forums, but mainly due to 1 vs 1 more so than teams.

If the underdog class can now beat multiple of opponents by themselves due to the new features it received then yes it should be toned down. Not because of duels or wrong team setup.

My last statement is about players with egos because they were used to owning the underdog for a long time (still do) by themselves due to great survivability or outsmarting them. However those players with a ego has a challenge now because of the features the underdog received recently. They don’t like that they’re being pressured by something they can beat without a required partner or group. So they get frustrated, use vulgar words and go on to the forums and hope their complaint gets through…..which succeeded anyway.

Trust me it’s an adapting issue because they aren’t use to it yet nor want to take the time to counter it and they don’t want support to back them up. They will ignore their team members support just to get that kill and say that they (owned you).

Mightymealworm.8409:

Um, all the Dev is talking about is sacrificeing damage/sustain/control for one or the other. Like pretty much all the other classes do. That said, I hope the buff the builds that players invest into. Such as a weaker base heals that scale better with healing power (325 base HS that scales to 500 with 1000 healing power, or something like that). All classes should have sacrifice to specialize, and be mediocre to be a jack of all trades. They should also be rewarded sufficiently for sacrificeing.

I never believe any word from a devs when it comes to pvp balances. They may say one thing and do the exact opposite.

Peow peow.2189:

A 5 warrior team will beat anything right now in TPVP, what teamwork is their when you dont need support you dont need a conditioner you dont need a burster. If warrior can do it all there is just one class…

to this teamwork guy above me

Okay then find a strategy to beat them? They’re no different than fighting 5 engineers or elementalists when they can dominate just as good. There’s always going to be a counter for every class. You just haven’t found it yet or don’t want to make another build because you’re comfortable with it.

Garb Cost.3718:

Scoobaniec.9561:

QQ kids won… Be ready to get nerfs, im gonna join QQ train bc its easier to whine and nerf everything into ground than adapt..

Wow… I for one have never seen such outrage on forums about one particular class. Don’t get me wrong, not every thread was accurate but the complaints were consistent and, in general, I think they were pretty much right.

It baffles me when people just dig in their heels and point-blank refuse to see what is in front of them.

What is ironic is how you are moaning about people adapting yet it seems you are refusing to do this yourself before you even know what the changes are. Ironic.

I also like how the drama queens have started – “A nerf?! OH NO WE ARE GOING TO BE FREE KILLS NOW!!”

Nah they weren’t right…..it’s warcraft mentality, or just not adapting at all. If you can’t beat the warrior structure mainly for pvp then make a complaint. That seems to be the norm of every pvp mmo now & days. The complainers think X class are OP because they haven’t found any new ways to beat them nor they want to take the time.

Of course the developers will say anything to keep their (customers happy) why even bother arguing back? That’s a no brainer.

Nobody likes being CC, but no one else told you to chase down the warrior either thinking they’re free kills. Bring back up next time or does that hurts your ego?

No because it’s always about 1 vs 1 ignoring the fact this game is teamwork.

Why should they get nerf anyway when they have worthy or difficult adversaries to fight against in pvp.

This is why I lose interest in pvp a lot. When they try to balance classes it always falls down to 1 vs 1 fights instead of teamplay.

Saying this X class is strong shouldn’t be nerf down because it so happens to be everyone favorite build.

Instead of nerfing, buff other builds that can be better than this so call mandatory build. Not just for one class, but for all so it’ll be less frustration for those that have to change their gameplay style due to unfortunate players.

Sifu.6527:

I’m surprised no one is mentioning Signet of Rage.

because it’s not relative to hammer nor healing signet. Those are the keywords that makes other classes quiver in fear & whine.

Okay so does the pvp balance in this game focuses on 1 vs 1 or teamplay?

I was already vulgar harassed by a mesmer today in pvp because I outplayed him. He insist we do a 1 vs 1 which we did and I still won, but only because I already learned how to fight mesmers. I wasn’t even this mandatory spec you guys spec of.

I hope this nerf doesn’t go in the wrong direction or this game is no worse than warcraft on how they treat warriors because * This dude lost to a warrior in a 1 vs 1 fight*

a t s e.9614:

They ars talking about hambow . 0\10\30\0\30

In my opinion they will move UF and nerf the bleed\burn on longbow.
They can’t really nerf HS otherwise warr will be back to poor sustain .
And it clearly said they don’t want dmg+ tanking in one build so UF is getting moved for sure . It will either force people to get rid of cleansing ire or burst mastery to make the stun-lock build work .

I’ll make this simple for all.

Can it survive a zergfest?
Is it strong in one vs one or 5 vs 1?

I wonder what 1 build they’re talking about. I’m pretty sure it can be done with several builds (if that is possible).

I’m not seeing how warriors are strong right now besides being decent. I don’t feel it or I just don’t have the build they speak of. Nevertheless this better go in the right direction and not the wrong way or else we’ll have to deal with another *one year dark age * all over again.

hybrid.5027:

CMstorm.8679:

Pibriamal.8719:

You do realize that ANet stated that they want Warrior sustain to be regen based right?

Anyway, I’ll bite. Duel me. You can go whatever class you want. I won’t even impose any restrictions on you. Whisper me whenever you find me online,, we can set up a time.

im all for warriors being sustain and all that, but I’m just saying that after everyone complaining about how OP healing signet is and how OP warriors are, i’d like to see a 1v1 where a warrior gets by with healing surge.

And i’d love to duel, but I probably won’t be on for a while

Doesn’t this seem wrong to you? That it’s at a point that warriors quite probably rely on healing signet to be competitive? Nerf healing signet, and what do we have? We have pre-healing signet warriors; which were the laughing stock of sPvP for an entire year.

Other skills need to be looked at; not healing signet. Perhaps cleansing ire, or simply just weapon cooldowns.

The keyword Entire Year
This is how long pvp warriors had to wait for another viable heal to be good in Spvp. Now that they got it, other classes hates it because now warriors aren’t as roflstomp as they were before.

Some players just seem to be lazy to find ways to beat a warrior. They aren’t a hard class to take down when you compare them to other classes.

I wish they can nerf whiners especially when it’s focused on stuff that can be easily defeated.

If you can’t do it solo then try it with a team. Sometimes you gotta let go of that 1 vs 1 ego and things become a lot funner that way except for the player that’s being jumped.

You know as they say don’t bite more than you can chew

Weindrasi.3805:

Ashes.9586:

This is my girl, Ash Bloodfire, she’s my main and I love her
At one point I was seriously thinking about using a make-over kit on her, but now I would never be able to even though I ended picking up one from a black lion chest.
(Yes, my graphics are all on low, deal with it)

YOU! I think…. I think I killed you. On WvW. You’re dragonbrand yes? There was this charr and I thought -holy crap I’ve seen that one somewhere- XDD

Love your armor set btw

Seems legit hahaha

Y..you uploaded the whole family o.o. They all look awesome

Here’s my bloodthirsty kitten. Lusts for combat.

They’re ugly as most would say :P

honovi.7893:

But they doesn’t heal more than warriors. The math is in this thread. It heals substantially less without max healing power.

Trolling or not, actual combat over spreadsheets. If you’re having a tough time with a warrior in a 1 vs 1 fight then grab some help and burst it down. Sorry but I don’t like my class being the underdog forever while you like to run over them with no hassle.

Step up your game or get out.

honovi.7893:

I have no clue what you are trying to say.

Quit complaining because you don’t like good stuff happening to warriors.

You know good and well Elementalist can heal better than Warriors and you’re trying to find an argument because of Healing Signet ticks better than it did before.

In pvp it does help out warriors just a tad and that’s about it.

Yeah I just notice that they the ponytail hair selection can’t be two dye options which is painful. I hope they work on that soon though I have to buy another make over hairstyle kit.

I didn’t like any of the choices much. I mean Rox hairstyle is okay, but meh. However I appreciate that they added some to the character creation section.

Thanks Anet now do the faces muahahahah.

I haven’t post in a while, but all I can say about OP’s thread it’s a l2p issue especially if it’s about warriors.

From what I see when players whine about warriors in general is if they’re viable to participate in pvp more than often and not roflstomp. They’re overpowered

However if they’re not viable and have a little builds to participate in pvp while getting roflstomp. They’re balanced.

Chadramar.8156:

Actually, you were “asking for much”, and it is not a “little idea”. Would you consider it a little thing if the reverse happened to the other species and all their gear was made to look the same on men and women?

Yes because all I was asking was armor changes and not a re modification of a race.

Chadramar.8156:

I want to play a character. Not a “girl character”.
I want to play a hero. Not a “girl hero”.
I want to play a warrior. Not a “girl warrior”.
I want to wear armor. Not “girl armor”.

So don’t play a female character and that solves your problem. If you can’t do that you’re only contradicting yourself. I play a girl charr warrior hero that wears girl armor skirt though it’s like a roman skirt. I guess that makes it a man armor skirt.

Chadramar.8156:

I do not want to be “othered” by constant reminders of the fact that my characters are female while male characters are considered the default. I do not want to have someone else’s idea of stifling gender stereotypes forced on my characters. I do not want to lose access to sweet armor designs because someone decided that my characters must wear “girl armor” instead.

The issue, as has been pointed out, is that gendered armor does not give us a choice. No one objects to a greater variety of armor styles, as long as it applies to both genders equally. Hell, I certainly wouldn’t mind some armors for charr that show more fur, because fur color and pattern are such a big part of charr character design that it’s a shame they’re barely visible. But I do want to choose whether I go for fully-covering versus less-covering, plain versus ornate, practical versus fanciful. Only playing a charr really gives me that choice. (Okay, there’s the asura — but I hate pretty much everything about them so they don’t count in my book. :p)

Yeah I get it like most of you guys in this thread don’t want their * precious female charrs to be different * ignoring the fact I said it’s an optional choice if you want to wear the other armor.

I’m sorry that I don’t have that defensive insight you guys have, because I’m the type that likes to add more stuff to game to make it fun and creative.

Back on topic..that’s probably we do not see many charr representation in the game especially the females which are a myth.

WhiteRose.6934:

Since when does feminine=boobilicious? I mean goodness, someone states they want a little style and instantly that means we’re going to go full DD-cup furries? Calm yourselves please. Like I stated previously, I like the current armor we have, and I made very pretty/feminine (COME AT ME I SAID IT) charr with what I had to work with, and they’ll still kick your kitten if you mess with them. Is it so wrong I didn’t want to look like brutes? A little variety isn’t bad, I mean if you’re arguing that “It’s against the lore” I implore you to look at half the armor in the light category and tell me just how much goes with the lore. I see charr wearing a frilly flower dress (TA armor) in ALL the lore stories. (Sarcasm at it’s finest)

Leia Spiritrose and her warband partner Karra Bloodrose everybody. Showing the world you can be beautiful and classy all at the same time. (Oh and Karra’s loyal devourer Lillith, she’s beautiful too.)

They’ve given me such a hard time on the previous page and I wasn’t asking for much. However I think that’s why FenGuild said furrie community overall is frowned upon because one little idea such as feminine armor for female charr and asura is cataclysmic to their minds. I’m thinking patterns while they’re thinking sexual stuff which tells you where their minds are at. Then they use lore as the excuse..I mean what about the charrs living in the diverse city Lion’s Arch. Sooner or later they’ll follow the trend on who wears what, but its always an optional choice for them.

@ Frayta

I don’t think FenGuild was using the furrie term in a offensive way nor is it overall. He probably think it’s absurd on how people come with a reason why this cannot have that because it doesn’t fit their view. Then uses words as * our * or * we * as if they talking for the whole furrie community.

He isn’t a furrie, but if he was…. he’ll probably lose interest in it quick if he had to deal with this type of resistance on a small idea and then gets criticize about it.

If you want wreck havoc then go with Hoelbrak.
If you want to soak up a little more damage then Melandru is for you.

Scoobaniec.9561:

If u like brutal attacks, go charr.

Everybody loves my attacks

Supreme.7352:

What is this for? PvE, WvW, SPvP?

From what I understand he said WvW and Spvp.

Weindrasi.3805:

Drawing in class keeps me from getting fidgety. Today’s doodle is a more animalistic take on my main…

Looks like a Final Fantasy guardian summon.