Guild Wars 2

So… in the world of Tyria…

What happens if your intimate partner uses a Total makeover kit mid action?

So.

This is a supposed picture of the back cover of the HoT box (it is from a well trusted if not the most trusted online retailer in my country).

https://cdgalaxis.hu/termekkepek/hatlap/pcg/pcg_guild_wars_2_heart_of_thorns_standard_edition_pre_purchase_v1506.jpg

No mention on it of new PvE maps, “challenging group content”, PvP or WvW. If this cover is real then… this won’t end well.

Galen Grey.4709:

For example we dont know how many maps there are in HoT, what if there are more then 7?

we dont know what challenging group content there will be, what if there is more then 8 new dungeons? or perhaps 8 new dungeons with 3 paths each? It may even contain raids or the equivalent (Arenanet did hire a raid specialist after all)

*bursts out laughing*

Yeah right. Dream on.

Worst. Communication. Ever.

But hey, I’m glad at least that there actually is a boxed version.

Sarie.1630:

Arioso.8519:

Three new maps

Where is this stated?

I’ve seen that maps will have “3 distinct biomes”, but never an ArenaNet statement on how many new maps there will be.

They did state somewhere that it is in fact, more than 1 map.

Which means…

drumroll

2 maps. 3 at best.

Is this a common practice?

I think I have never pre-ordered anything (at least not games), so I don’t really know, but I think this is the first time I’ve seen anything advertised to be bought whitout a timeframe.

I heard it’s better to have a release date and/or release content before the game dies.

Not sure if true.

ProtoGunner.4953:

My point was people will always complain and they wouldn’t play SAB anymore (unless you are a hardcore fan) be cause there is no additional content. The kitten begins anew: they moan there is no additional SAB content.

I’m sorry, but the solution for people wanting more content is certainly not removing content.

LeL.

Don’t worry, they’ll add baubles to the wallet with the return of SAB.

Aka never.

BrooksP.4318:

To put it into another perspective, single player games range from $50-60 and usually yield 30-60 hours worth of gameplay. GW2 being $50 initially with no other costs, means after 30-60 hours the initial cost of the game is irrelevant.

I detest this argument, and want to throw up every time I see it.

According to this, F2P games are the best thing ever, and can only be beaten by if you are a QA tester, and you even get paid for playing. Right….

If you really want to measure the “worth” of a game, please insert stuff like “level of enjoyment”, “saturation”, “personal gain” etc..

Centurion.7296:

Jahroots.6791:

there’s little to do besides grind gold.

I dont know about you, but if you really think that grinding gold is the only thing that you can do in the game then you might not be playing the right game :I

I might be not playing the right game then.

Edit: If you can call logging in once a week and logging out 20 minutes later playing that is.

Thanks for playing!

Love the basic idea of the suggestion, although it wouldn’t play out too smoothly.

It could make people invest in it instead of useful stuff, or if you could only “buy” it after everything is maxed, then when a new mastery comes out, that would make people lose MF (which is not a good feeling).

Instead they could just let you get +1% MF for every 50 ranks (or something) while in WvW.

Maybe you could exchange the extra points simply for gold, or something.

Cuddy.6247:

Harper.4173:

Cuddy.6247:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Just in case you are confused, the “tools” I am mentioning are any item used to reduce time that it takes to clear a dungeon. The RNG aspect of items dropped from bags does not negate the fact that you tend to make more money if you complete the same dungeon faster (or complete the dungeon more times in the same span of time) than someone who is not speedrunning.

Exactly how does speedclearing improve your rewards? Oh right, it doesn’t. If you want to make more: get a job, get another job, get a better job or play the trading post. Speedclearing is a joke.

Lol.

Speed clearing is easier than learning to play the trading post or getting a job. It is less effective but easier to do.

If you play 3 hours per day and manage to do all dungeons vs half the dungeons in that time then you are more effective.
I’m surprised this needed typing out.

Easier than getting a job? You must be out of your mind, because I get paid a nice wage +benefits and 2/5 days a week I just look up videos on YouTube to pass the time. If getting a job was really that difficult, it wouldn’t be an expectation for every person over the age of 16 to have one.

Once you foot your way through the door, it’s even easier to pick up hours too – take over coworker’s shifts, be a model employee that your boss loves, etc. It’s not difficult. The next time your three hour dungeon tour nets you 250 gold, come talk to me.

We just witnessed the end of gaming everybody.

Cyninja.2954:

Bubi.7942:

And it’s great that You or Your team/guild don’t use them, and that in your personal experience, rarely encountered them. I have different experiences however. I have redone Arah recently (like 4 months ago) with PuGs, because I have totally forgot about them (I did them 2 years before that). Done all 4 paths once. All 4 times, someone glitched Lupi in above described manner. One time we even skipped half of the dungeon by jumping out of map somewhere.

Unlucky? Maybe, but I have my doubts.

Exactly, I optimize my game experience by playing with people I know or have fun with, aka guildies.

My expectations are a tad lower when playing with pugs and I try to be more relaxed. I’d assume the best fix to said bugs is to fix them, instead of arbitratily blaming gear.

Also your sample size is terrible. All 4 paths AND not having played the game in along time. I’d never make assumptions on that basis, or at least very careful ones.

I see you fail to get my point. My sample size is exactly as terrible as yours, that was the intention. It is personal experience, that is why I bothered to write it down in the first place.

Also, I do not recall saying one word about gear (at least not in this thread), that is a different issue.

Edit:
@petyr:
I have yet to see the one true definiton of exploiting in gaming.

What I have described, is the game mechanic, yes. The exploiting part comes from our brave adventurers stacking up before the fight in a corner luring friendly NPC on top of themselves, then because of the dumb AI boss walks up and kills himself whitout ever being a threat to players.

I mean, if it’s intented to stay in the bubble all the time, why even have it? Why even have the boss area? I mean that big, plain arena surely wasn’t set up for a boss fight, no, it was that one square centimeter behind the corner, where you cant even see anything cause of your camera.

Further Edit:
Remember Mortal Kombat (the original)? I used to have it on SNES. If you got one of your opponents in the corner, and performed an uppercut, you could keep mashing low/highpunch and your opponent would always bounce up, never fall down and recover.

That thing has been in the game since release (since you know, cartridges were harder to update). It was clearly something not intended, an exploit. But no one gave a kitten and everyone used, and BAM, instant feature.

Cyninja.2954:

Bubi.7942:

Aenesthesia.1697:

Animosity.5968:

OP

First, two things:

- i regularly run fractals, and speed clear dungeons. We never glitch anything. Just once in fractals and for laughs (the mai trim glitch)
- using reflects on a boss is not an exploit. If you think it is, then so dodging, healingm cand even attacking would be exploits. Dont troll if you are serious about your post.

Op is saying (if I got it right) that for instance glitching Lupi in the wall so you can place a reflect on the wall behind him instantly destroying 50%+ of his health is exploiting.

I have a feeling many people got so used to glithy/cheesy dungeon runs, that they consider that normal now.

And yet there are even more of us “normal” players who do not abuse such glitches. I’m fully ascended on both my main character and main twink and I can count down the times I have been exposed to such a glitch on one hand.

Like I said, it depends on one’s definition of a glitch/exploit.

For me squeezing 5 people in the corner at the end of AC3 (or 1?) so the NPC also stacks on you, thus you avoid the any damage that can be done by done falling ceiling falls under the category of exploiting. You could argue that it is just “smart play”, for me, it’s pretty clear it’s not intentional.

And it’s great that You or Your team/guild don’t use them, and that in your personal experience, rarely encountered them. I have different experiences however. I have redone Arah recently (like 4 months ago) with PuGs, because I have totally forgot about them (I did them 2 years before that). Done all 4 paths once. All 4 times, someone glitched Lupi in above described manner. One time we even skipped half of the dungeon by jumping out of map somewhere.

Unlucky? Maybe, but I have my doubts.

Aenesthesia.1697:

Animosity.5968:

OP

First, two things:

- i regularly run fractals, and speed clear dungeons. We never glitch anything. Just once in fractals and for laughs (the mai trim glitch)
- using reflects on a boss is not an exploit. If you think it is, then so dodging, healingm cand even attacking would be exploits. Dont troll if you are serious about your post.

Op is saying (if I got it right) that for instance glitching Lupi in the wall so you can place a reflect on the wall behind him instantly destroying 50%+ of his health is exploiting.

I have a feeling many people got so used to glithy/cheesy dungeon runs, that they consider that normal now.

Gaile Gray.6029:

Lauren Kamieniecki.6245:

Also yes, reading and responding on the forums is not actually part of my job. I got to a point where I just really didn’t like how you guys felt ignored in this forum and I’m trying to do something about it. I tend to only post positively and I won’t respond to all threads.

tl;dr I will keep fighting the good fight on your behalf.

I support this thread.

Lauren is going above and beyond about this and other bugs. I’ve told her personally, and I’ll say it here: I’m delighted that she is posting in our forums.

Shut down incoming in 3… 2… 1…

In Memoriam Josh Foreman

- Speedy Chronzales
- Mesmer 2.0

Behellagh.1468:

Why would they change it? Do you think they will change ascended after enough time passes?

Both armors have significant advantage over standard exotic so if you want it, it will take time to craft and once crafted it’s bound to you. No Daddy Warbucks can shortcut the process by buying charged crystals or the armor itself off the TP.

But Ascended Time gating makes (somewhat) sense. You can sell/buy Damask, Deldrimor etc.. That’s meant for even if you already have fully ascended gear, it will still be worth carfting, as you will always profit because of the time gating (meaning people will pay more to skip time gate). I remember Anet themselves saying this in some blog post or forum post.

Yet you cannot sell anything (save grow lamp, which was introduced way later) with Charged Quartz. So I ask again, why is it still time gated?

EcoRI.9273:

First let’s look at the days when FGS elite was dominant, can we can all agree that FGS did the MOST DPS in the game ever? If you examine the past world record runs where FGS was used for damage, most of them are actually over 1minute slower than what it is today. Why? Because instead of using FGS to damage, people are now using FGS to run and as a result has significantly improved their completion time!

I think you are not approaching this from the right direction.

Speed run times may have decreased their time, but that tells nothing of DPS or how fun/enjoyable the dungeons are.

People are not complaining because you can get from one encounter to the other too fast, it’s because you can take out enemies too fast. Swiftness doesn’t really have too much use in a dungeon encounter.

Riddle me this:

Why is Charged Quartz still time gated?

Why is Celestial Exotic armor account bound?

It’s pretty straightforward what he/she is saying.

You craft ascended for stats.

You craft legenderies for looks/prestige.

But I’ll add a 3rd statement:

You craft either cause there is nothing else to do.

Bomber.3872:

Bubi.7942:

Except of course, when it was sometimes 4 weeks without any prior announcements or any additional information whithin the update weeks despite asking directly on the forums.

If that’s all your worried about, think of it like this:

GW2 has biweekly updates, regularly, sometimes.

It never happened that there was no announcement or information. Sometimes it was because breaks, or because oft special events, or for feature patches. There has been given a reason every time for more then 2 years, at least on any information channel used by anet. Thats why I ask for it

Actually there were quite a few times when there was no info on the next update, only on the day of the release with the patch it self, which wasn’t always a 2 weeks period. This was especially true in LS season 1. I would link in the forums archives with lots of threads like “When is this gonna end?” “When does next LS start?” and such, but alas, no archives for some reason.

Bomber.3872:

These last point is why I’m concerned right now. Why has there been no information at all about this tuesday? And does that mean that these sure byweekly updatecycle is no more and so that we silently actually went back to the same problems that existed over 2 years ago after gw2 release?
Or has there been any information and I just didn’t find it?

Except of course, when it was sometimes 4 weeks without any prior announcements or any additional information whithin the update weeks despite asking directly on the forums.

If that’s all your worried about, think of it like this:

GW2 has biweekly updates, regularly, sometimes.

Highly doubt it. No beta for WvW yet, not all specializations announced, challenging content not clarified, etc.. A minimum of 8 weeks. But likely way more.

I would also lol if it would cost 45 eur

Crovax.7854:

CobaltSixty.1542:

Players in 2014: We don’t like these fortnightly updates, give us an expansion!

Players in 2015: We don’t want to wait for the expansion, give us fortnightly updates!

You are completely oversimplifying, as is Ardenwolf.

Players didn’t like the LS because of the horrendously long breaks after only a few episodes while the episodes themselves were incredibly lackluster in terms of actual content. Either they make short episodes like they did while sticking to a non stop 2 week schedule for at least half a year or make the individual episodes much longer and content rich; what we got was a pretty bad joke.

Also this, if you care to look up this page: https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/

You’ll see that LS2 ran from July 1st to Jan 13th with a total of 8 episodes. Now I am no mathmagician, but that seems closer to monthly than “fortnighly”.

Edit: I did the math. That’s an LS update every 24.5 days.

Dondarrion.2748:

TPMN.1483:

Time to do something else… I hear the weather is improving outside.. I may even venture out to that scary place.

Oh, you mean this old MMO?
It’s got daily updates

This made me lol. Especially the PvP part:D

I would argue with no monthly fee, as it has probably the highest subscription fee.

CobaltSixty.1542:

Players in 2014: We don’t like these fortnightly updates, give us an expansion!

Players in 2015: We don’t want to wait for the expansion, give us fortnightly updates!

Or maybe just reactivate old contetn at least. You know, something like a Mega Excitement Cube. I wish we had something like that…

Well my GW2 activity has dropped to log-in, say hello in guild chat, and log out – most days. Sometimes I can get myself to do a dungeon, or play a PvP match. Sometimes I don’t even bother to log-in.

Playing other things in my free time.

Which is okay I guess, I can return anytime. The problem is, my will to return is dropping daily. I never doubted I will buy HoT at first, now I am at a point where it’s a “meh, do I even want to return?” decision.

Due to an accident, I only have 9 fingers on my hands.

Anet please close the finger gap, and make every player cut off 1 finger.

Ty.

sorudo.9054:

Bubi.7942:

- Hard mode
- Challenge mode
- Permanent death*

All for increased rewards and a shot at rare loot.

BAM! Fixed.

*permanent as in you die once in a dungeon, it throws you out (no invites after ofc)

and where is normal mode then?

Normal is the current thing.

Mikko.2684:

If they added item to gemstore that would give you 100% more power precision ferocity for 4k gems and it worked everywhere, that would be pay to win as not everyone can just buy that upgrade and thus will lose almost every time. There could not be expansions to anything if you think adding more content to game is pay to win. World of Warcraft is pay to win as you have to pay for the 15 expansios for it and game time.

You just called out the “but you can buy gems with gold so it’s not P2W!!!111!!” crowd for a dance. Don’t go there man, I’ve been there and it’s not pretty.

Moss.5371:

This, and everything else, is not about your convenience, but about keeping you playing. It’s just applied psychology to make you feel rewarded.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1335924/Computer-games-addictive-use-psychological-ploys-tested-lab-rats.html

1. There is a difference between rats and humans (behaviorism was a trend in say 1930-40). Pressing a switch or a lever may be fun for rats for a lifetime, it gets annoying for humans after a few minutes.

2. Having to press a button 100, 200, 300, 400+ times is not a reward. It’s a punishment

- Hard mode
- Challenge mode
- Permanent death*

All for increased rewards and a shot at rare loot.

BAM! Fixed.

*permanent as in you die once in a dungeon, it throws you out (no invites after ofc)

Remember that time when “Antitoxin Spray” healing skill was announced and everyone went apekitten because it was gonne be too OP?

Bezagron.7352:

I think many are focus on enhancing the current archetypes. Chronomancer worked because in plays on the manipulation of time which feels right at home with Mesmer. Think about it manipulating Time is the ultimate glamour / illusion so there is no disconnect from Mesmerise’s base identity. You need no lore explanation at all. Should this be the way with all specializations? I say No, as if this is a requirement it’s going to limit so much what can be achieved & done with specializations.

Now we get to Guardian’s, the Defender, Heavy Supporter, similar to the Holy Warrior archetype but not a warrior of a ‘Faith’ by lore. And the first specialization is Dragonhunter. A name many would say so far from the labels we would use for a Guardian going on past experiences and knowledge from fantasy, myths & other games. This is not even looking at what weapons, skills & traits Dragonhunters bring to the table.

For this name to fit in with the Guardian concept this name will need explanation through guild wars lore. And this is because of players past experiences and knowledge from fantasy, myths & other games. So far with the refer to the concept of Witch Hunters I can see how Guardians could become Dragonhunters. Their Virtue, their Valour, their Honour & Zeal could be driven to become the Witch Hunter’s of Tyria.

The Dragonhunters.

Lastly the other reason I’m really starting to love the Dragonhunter is because of the possibilities this opens up for the whole concept of specialization.

Not only can they Enhance a Profession’s Core Concept but Bend & Morph Profession’s in Way we Never Dreamed Of.

And if only for this reason I say Arenanet please keep Dragonhunter.

Or…

It was the first name that came to mind. In like any fantasy game. Ever.

One thing is for sure:

This is definetly not the time for SAB with all the events happening.

I’d guess late August btw.

Zephyra.4709:

Seeing quite a few posts regarding not being able to get ascended stuff…
There is 1 way and as lame as it is at least it gets you what you want… I’ve crafted ascended because I can within my limits and why not? Min maxer here as much as I can.

You can pretty much buy specific ascended anyway like I do:

- buy gems & convert to gold

- have skill points (e.g: 20 for 1 asc orb thing)
- have laurels to buy ascended recipe (e.g: 5 laurels = 1 recipe)
- have an abundance of Karma (easily acquired via EOTM Ktrain) to purchase Obby Shards

- buy Trick or Treat Bags and get the ascended mats (dragonite,
Emp frags & bloodstone)
- buy necessary inscription thing off TP
- buy necessary asc mats off TP (e.g: Deldrimoor Steel Ingots etc)

Practically bought save for the skill points, laurels & Karma as those require time and/or PvE/Ktrain in EOTM from champ bags.

Boom. There’s your asc wep etc.

But you don’t understand.

What some of these people want is the same thing you (or me) put in tons of effort and time for free.

Spend gold on it? Pffft. Get real man! You need all that gold you get for… oh wait. Nothing.

I feel the Chronomancer is not really in line with other Specialiazation names. Here are some suggestions for renaming:

1. Shield Mesmer
2. Clock Dude
3. Time Fighter
4. Monster Killer with Puple Spells

Genesis.8572:

Clearly, if the Dragonhunter is any indication, the Necromancer elite specialization will be called “Shouting Guy.”

This made me lol

What a great suggestion OP!

Let me add some more to that. How about:

- Setting back everyones Fractals level to 10
- Everyone loses 500 WvW levels (if you haven’t got 500, then you go negative and you gain negative WvW traits)
- One of your characters randomly gets perma-crippled
- From now on, every character you own has a chance to spontanously combust – if it does, it gets deleted forever

Dragon Hunter? Sounds generic, no creativity at all.

Please rename it to: xXxShadoWKillerxXx

Zaklex.6308:

…unless of course you have the max number of 20 slot bags on your character…

I do. Actually I do on 5 out of 6 (5 and a half actually) characters that I have.

They all use spcific fractal bags so I know where I have to look for things (crap on top, rare on bottom). Why rare on bottom? Cause white/gray/event items/etc. will cramp the top of your inventory regardless of bag, so it is easiest to gather the “good” stuff on the bottom.

Also, resizing the window every time I want to play inventory manager is just as annoying.

Ariurotl.3718:

I’m not a fan.

Noooo! I opened this thread just to make this joke. kitten you! (that kitten is a dam plus an n)

Tree.3916:

RapidSausage.4620:

lordkrall.7241:

$39,99 – $59,99 seems like a likely price range for standard edition.

This is wildly expensive for an expansion pack that -in contrast to the base game- provides a fraction of the content.

Also considering that ANet had the gem store from the get go this allows them to drop xpac price much more than a full game.

Don’t buy it then… simple resolution. Do a /age in game then divide it by the initial cost to buy the game… I’ll go first 4k hours / 50$ is like 1/80th of a cent per hour. Tell me, what other form of entertainment gives you a rate like that?

Any free to play game.

Eg.: The first minute of Farmville is worth more by that calculation.

Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns ~ 4000 gems

Kal Spiro.9745:

lordkrall.7241:

Angelica Dream.7103:

I find it awesome that this thread still stays alive.
Some how I fee that Anet just wants it to go away. My only questions is what will they not just open up SAB, since so many liked it?

Well for one there were plenty of people that disliked it as well, especially world 2.

It is also the matter of it simply not being a case of pushing a button and it will magically work.

They also don’t have the personnel available right now to do anything that is not related to HoT. that was their choice, whether or not it’s a good one, but it’s the choice they made. HoT or nothing. The only thing that will be worked on and come out before HoT is skill/trait changes, which are also directly related to HoT because of specializations.

And then HoT comes out in let’s say, by the end of August / early September. And as we all guessed, no SAB until HoT.

You can bet your kitten that there will be no LS updates or anything (maybe bugfix updates) for 1.5-2 months. There’s enough new content, be happy with that, so no SAB.

And then… oh, it’s Halloween! Fire up those Lunatic Inquis farming AFK engines for the Return of the Bloody Prince again, who we see for the first time for some reason. Again. SAB? Nope.

And then… It’s Wintersday month! I guess no SAB, eh?

And then, a month’s break. Everyone needs a break sometimes.

And then LS3 will probably start somewhere in 2016 February. And as we all know, SAB doesn’t fit in the LS.

So…

SAB in 2017 maybe?

I do not think the Confirmation box itself is the problem.

I find unequippping the salvage kit automatically after every confirmation a lot more annoying.

Press Mystic Salavage Kit -> Click -> Scroll down to rares -> Click -> “Are you sure?” -> Scroll up to Mystic Salavage Kit -> Click -> Scroll down to rares… and so on.

And no, I am not rolling around in rares. I just cba to salvage them, so they rack up after a while.

Same reason why I have 1000+ scrolls of knowledge, who knows how many luck, and 2.5+ mil karma lying around. QoL update please?

…this???

Will it still work with the new traits?