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Thank You! Anet for standing up for us. I’m a bit worried by this statement though, “(except those using invisibility skills, of course)” Will they make adjustments to Stealth,Decoy? Mesmer stealth is only 3 sec, would greatly hurt us.
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Now or For evermore
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no posted update by devs atm.
sostronk, i encourage you to post that to the theif forum and get back to me, please!!
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Sostronk “clueless noobs” I feel offended.
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Even theives are admitting their class being way OP. “I’m a terrible player and I’m sick of any class that can beat me”. Why don’t you ask that to a level 54 theif newbie who was in my party in wvw who took out 3 people in less than 5 minutes of how terrible player they are?
She told the party “they were way too easy” and laughed. So that justifies us for being a terrible player? In support to the Over Post.
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It is not off topic in one bit, as a Rng, and Eng. class as well, this concern me a lot. This not only affect one class beside theif but all others as well.
My server is Darkhaven atm. It’s been happening alot in the past few days. Yesterday was the full blown mayhem
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I was in EB yesterday all hell broke loose, I instantly died, from what? not by the hand of my enemy/ies nor by falls but by Horrendous s laggs, and notorious crashes. I than realized i needed armor repair? why so? After 5 repairs, i finally called it quit. Why be penalized for something you didn’t deserved?
Anyone having same issues?
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“Again, what’s new to the Op class? they will buff theif to the extent where we all play theif, than the nerf, will take place. That’s how i foresee it. Unfortunately, Nothing will happen.” ,Ranger.
Also, i’ve donwned mesmers; not too difficult, but theif? I can not shoot at something that isn’t visible for a long time. when i think i seen him, I lay motionless on the ground in tears of bl—d.
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Well said Embolism. obviously majority of players understand and agree with that. Unfortunately some just don’t get it. As a mesmers, what’s so hard to counter me? Obviously if you can see me than you can challenge me, even behind or along side easy killable clones., phant. And my 3 sec Decoy is a joke to theif stealth. We mostly use Decoy to run away, and we can’t even attack while in Decoy.
Even rangers and engineers can agree on how it is not impossible to down a mesmer and finding the real one.
So what’s so Difficult?
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I find this thread quite interesting, i encourage everyone to read.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/community/links/Thieves-rule-W3
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I find this quite interesting to share with the community. Your thoughts..
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/473/feature/7201/March-Madneskittenml/page/1
update link,
Thanks! Unspecified.
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Razor I’m not sure what class you play but i can tell you this, you sound like a theif. As i already stated, any class can take out mesmers. Each class forums provide the remedy to counter mesmer. A thief, doesn’t need any format or tutorial for any kills. I am sure you are fully aware and have knowledge of what supporters against not nerfing mesmers are stating, perhaps you are trolling this thread?
No further discussion,
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My Predictions/expectations are, the devs will continue to improve the game mechanics, fix bugs etc.. and mostly culling, Also not forgetting , making major overall adjustment to class balance mechanics.
Palu, you said it yourself, “Finally, I know very little about thieves because I don’t play one”
Everyone here who post their concerns and suggestions in this thread regarding theif mechanic are quite knowledgable of theif mechanics and has played one. I encourage you to not make assumptions without knowledge or experience.
I would like to comment of what you said, “there is no skill that allows for a full 90 seconds of stealth”.
I encourage you to look under Perma-Stealth theif under youtube, there you will see for yourself. And yes, there are many posted video’s there, also you will find them under theif forum of users posting perma-theif builds as well.
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OP, i can agree with you on many things but in my opinion, I refuse to agree where you mentioned a mesmer decoy (3 sec) stealth is OP in comparison to a theif stealth? I’m sure you are aware, No mesmer can attack while in Decoy, nor kill while in Decoy, nor can single hit with very high damage and vanish untouchable while in decoy. Mesmers clones, phant, are quite easy to counter. Any class can confirm that.
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Razor, mesmers are Op? tell that to a engineer and a ranger. Any class can topple a mesmer. I also play a mesmer, and we get Nerfed the majority of patches, theif and war?
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Leuca, Phantasms having more than 5-6k health, show evidence? Phantasms are easy to kill in the first or second hit, even i as a mesmer don’t have that health pool and I don’t get killed in 1-2 hits. Obvious, you are making this up.
And hhary, i need your proof as well about zerkers hitting 3-4 damage each.
Why these false information?. As i had stated above, any class can counter mesmers. All my proof are on each class forums and its users posting them on Youtube. Only if you’re theif, you won’t need too because all it takes to be a theif is spamming 1-2 keys, by only using your main skills, easy kill. Only classes which can hit per 3-5k and more are theif and warrior.
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As a main ranger and engineer, i have taken out mesmers with little work. Learning the real mesmer from clones are easy to detect.. The key to counter attack them is with range and dodging as already stated. Even their clones are easy to beat. As EaGrimdark stated, How about buff your skill? In wvw, pvp and spvp, i have seen all classes takinng them out, . Unlike having 2 theives on top of you while in stealth is a whole different matter. Any 2 classes fighting you, obviously has a greater advantage over you, but not impossible to beat.
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Pvp is the best world of Guild wars 2. There is alot of work to be done and fixes etc… but at the moment, i am enjoying it a lot, especially with the new changes.
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I don’t find fighting a mesmer that hard, at least u can see what you’re fighting including clones. Shatter, it’s not that hard to counter. Decoy (3 sec) is nothing compared to stealth on a theif and obviously, you can not attack while in Decoy. I find mesmer challenging and fun, it’s like finding “where is waldo”
Any class can beat them Including myself a ranger/engineer but with theif?
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Thank You OP for posting this thread, I strongly agree that stealth need to be Nerfed especially in WvW.
Since launch they were OP, unfortunately they will remain this way till the end. I don’t see any nerf happening whatsoever sad but true. They do abuse culling at their advantage and they have strong supporters as well while ours remain in silent. Three days ago in WvW, my party and i watched 1 enemy theif wiped 7 players while in Stealth, and it ended when one of my party memebers changed into theif. We all agreed that the theif remained in stealth about 10 minutes. Alas we just have to deal with them no mater how much pain, injustice and frustration they cause. There’s no hope for us, the Under Powered classes.
I Promise You that culling will never be fixed, especially in Wvw. It is sad but what should we expect?, It Benefict the classes to be Op specially theif/war.
Someone have to be “Superior” I don’t Expect no fixes yet i it’s hurting the rest of the community.