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Seriously I have nothing against Elementalist class but their Aoe; Meteor Shower need be addresed a.s.a.p.
We the community are already having a Painful Long Suffering experience with Thief class, why than allow and add another class to the Irony?
I’m really trying my best in dealing with thieves, than this; Elementalist Aoe.
I’m not saying that thief stealth shouldn’t be Ignored or Forgiven but it is far better than to deal with 1 than many.
As a Ranger class; as many already know, who is struggling to Survive, Enough is Enough
By Allowing Elitist classes OverPunishing the core balance of the game.
I believe all classes should be allowed to have Equal amount of Op skills, yet that is not the case especially with having Thief, and Elementalist classes completely in Violation Intent of Unbalance classes and the core game factor.
Seriously I do like the Elementalist class but they just need to be tamed more.
That’s all
(No Grudges)
.
Elementalist not only Reigns in Excellent Mobility, Defence(Bunkder) and D/D, they Reign in Devestating Aoe’s; Meteor Shower. This Out of Control skill has been a long suffering burnden; especially in wvw.
Not forgetting, Elementalist has the Highest Blast Finisher In all classes combine.
No one can deny this especially when there’s a group attempting to overtake a keep, than suddenly Meteor Shower is cast, than all Chaotic Damage Control Ignitiates.
I’m talking about 13k+ 20k Damage by one cast by 1 Elementist.; No other class Aoe can excell in 1 single Aoe other than the Elelementalist.
I know that Arena net had mentioned in the past of adjusting Aoe damage, but Unfortunately they scrapped that idea.
I’m sure Elementa;ost Outrageous Aoe was the main focus behind it.
Well I Encourage Arena net to reopen their case and to take this matter more seriously in addresing this at the fullest Antention.
(one note) ; Is Elementalist the next One Man Army?
I Rest My Case
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Thief, from stealth confusion variant, multistack.
General – 3 second condition cleanser debuff.
You thieves will get whatever you Desire…..a.k.a Favoritie Class
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OP
“Maybe I missed something and thiefs can remove this condition?”
They can Remove every condtion in stealth.
That “stealth trap” was all Deception; “money thievary”
As the saying goes, , “spill every penny for the price of nothing”
Obviously
Pretty much it
(I Encourage you to not fall in that Trap again).
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Burnfall posts stuff like this in every Thief thread. Just ignore him.
For anyone who played EverQuest 1, he is the Battleblade of GW2.
I hold you Accountable for Lying and Deception.
I Encouage you to post my threads/post of “:]Burnfall posts stuff like this in every Thief thread” in the post, so everyone in the community can see.
Otherwise,
I’ll take that as a Joke.
Oh there is a joke here alright. Your post history for example.
Than post my post History so everyone can see “Burnfall posts stuff like this in every Thief thread”
Go on…
Everyone waiting…..
Ranger for life here but ANET doesn’t want us to play rangers.
Very True and Tragic
Don’t you earn more XP and Karma running with Zergs?
You have to complete objectives; taking keep/ supply camp etc.. and not forgetting kills with zerg group.
Burnfall posts stuff like this in every Thief thread. Just ignore him.
For anyone who played EverQuest 1, he is the Battleblade of GW2.
I hold you Accountable for Lying and Deception.
I Encouage you to post my threads/post of “:]Burnfall posts stuff like this in every Thief thread” in the post, so everyone in the community can see.
Otherwise,
I’ll take that as a Joke.
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Anyone with a “brain” should know that Arena net support and promote Tyranny “The One Man Army” theory in support to their Favorite Class; Thief.
Why Tyranny?
By the countless deleted/infracted/closed and pending threads concerning Thief stealth causing choatic irony in wvw.
Promoting Tyranny
Nearing to 1 year- by the countless nerf-rewardings this class have gotten, is absurd.
Remember how they “nerfed Perma-stealth”?
Well it is still here, i never believed them, because again.. thief is the only nerf-rewarding class and Favorite class.
So why would they stripp their Idol thief from Supremacy status for the sake of any one; classes, community, wvw,spvp and pve?
As long Arena net remain, so be theif stealth and Favoritism.
The only way to remove stealth is to replace Arena net.. and that will Never happen.
Our only Savior and Hope is carry on to other Mmo’s team who doesn’t believe in Favoritism, “the one man army” theory , Tyranny and Nerf-Rewarding class and most especially, Punishing the “less advantage class” in Favor of the “Advantage” class.
So, they completely, let me say that again, completely!! ignore the thief community and its requests?!
They have nerfed us time after time, giving us so called buffs that we never wanted and just ended up destroying good weapon sets. They have given us many unjustified nerfs on things no one ever have complained about.
But yes. Anet want to have a strong duelist profession – and that’s exactly what the thief is and what it does best. Being a mobile blast finisher isn’t fun, but that’s all we can do in a zerg. And don’t even get me started on PvE….
Here is your answer, why they completely ignore Thief community?
They believe Thief class is Perfect
That’s the Consequence of being Favorite.. and them playing Favoritism.
Not only that is Devastating and Abusive to thief in the long term, any problems or concern this class have will be intentially ignore or "swept under the rug’ because it’s only a Delusion.
Believe me as a Ranger class, i know that thief have many fixes and problems within thier class that need serious attention.
Unfortunately,
Not to Arena net
Which is Sad
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OP
Read the Deleted/Infracted, Closed and Pending threads and posts.
There you will find what your looking for.
Anyone with a “brain” should know that Arena net support and promote Tyranny “The One Man Army” theory in support to their Favorite Class; Thief.
Why Tyranny?
By the countless deleted/infracted/closed and pending threads concerning Thief stealth causing choatic irony in wvw.
Promoting Tyranny
Nearing to 1 year- by the countless nerf-rewardings this class have gotten, is absurd.
Remember how they “nerfed Perma-stealth”?
Well it is still here, i never believed them, because again.. thief is the only nerf-rewarding class and Favorite class.
So why would they stripp their Idol thief from Supremacy status for the sake of any one; classes, community, wvw,spvp and pve?
As long Arena net remain, so be theif stealth and Favoritism.
The only way to remove stealth is to replace Arena net.. and that will Never happen.
Our only Savior and Hope is carry on to other Mmo’s team who don’t believe in Favoritism, “the one man army” theory , Tyranny and Nerf-Rewarding class and most especially, Punishing the “less advantage class” in Favor of the “Advantage” class.
Than and only than they will realized and learn that Favoritism and Tyranny of Stealth Mechanic is a Fail system.
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-Ever more Living World content, with much more permanent effects on the world.
Return of holiday events, but the focus will be on more permanent and impactful content.
-New skills and traits for EVERY PROFESSION, as a form of endgame progress.
-Retooled Champion Rewards Chest to make these bosses more exciting.
-Dungeon Complete Bonus Rewards to encourage actually completing dungeons for gold.
-New Crafting Material Rewards for WvW or PVE for all types of content in these areas.
-Account Magic Find will replace current gear-based Magic Find via consumables and food.
-Fine and Masterwork Salvages = chance to acquire magic find consumables to raise this.
-Crafting Professions boosted to 500!
-With crafting boost comes… Ascended Weapons and Armor to be crafted (or very rarely dropped).
-Precursors and Legendary Gear Changes + New Weapons and even new legendary gear types.
-Select the stat combo type you want on your legendary at will, no more transmutations!
-The WvW Orb Mechanics is going to see its replacement, with more details to come.
-More rewarding sPVP to line rewards up with PVE and WvW.
-Queue and Leaderboards for Solo Play, separate from ranked team play.
New PVP map types.
-PVP Legendary Weapon Skins
-And of course the $10,000 ArenaNet PAX Tournament!
-Eastern release will usher in new tutorials to explain the game’s functions better in all regions.
-And last but definitely not least: the brand New LFG Tool is finally coming!
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/473/feature/7597/ArenaNets-Master-Plan-for-2013.html/page/1
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Afterall
All these great plans without any adjustment to Stealth is worthless.
Why no Stealth counter?
None of these “Plans” will encourage players to remain or to enjoy the Beauty of what Guild Wars 2 will offers without dealing with the Primary Problems which Intentionally plaguing the game; Stealth(thief)
Other Classes has been long Suffering from the Malice of Stealth, and instead of Relieving them from this Threat, they Pridefuly and Sadistically continue their Parade of Tyranny of Stealth to the next Master Plan chapter.
As the saying goes, “You can buy me flowers, gold, diamonds and say that you Love me, all that is Vanity until you stop hurting me”.
End the Pain, Irony, Misery and Torment of Stealth.
Than,
And Only
Than
All of your Beautiful and Sensational Precious Presents, will be Embraced.
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It’s Unfortunate..
“Our Suffrerers Are Always Crying and We Their Torturers, Are Always in Joy”, Thief.
Once And For All, Please End this Irony of Stealth!!
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A Class who Sacrifices his/her Desires for the sake of others.
A Class who Sacrifices his/her Personal Interests for the sake of others .
A Class who Sacrifices his/her Well-being for the sake of others.
A Class who will Sacrifice himself/herself To Save The Life Of Another.
A Class who Act in the Best Interests for their community/party/group.
A Class who Sacrifices his/her Purpose for the sake of duty.
A Class who Sacrifices his/her Ego for Supporting others.
A Class who Sacrifices his/her Ego for the Well-being of helping others.
A Class who Sacrifices his/her Pride for the Compassion of “The Under-Achieve”- “Lesser” class.
A Class who Sacrifices his/her Grandiosity for Uplifting others.
A Class who Sacrifices his/her Survival for the Freedom of others.
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OP
I’m all for it; what you’re proposing is fair and justified. Myself I do feel bad for the lower ranked servers not getting the help from Arena net, especially in that area you mentioned.
(At least give them some air to breath)
I’m sure they have many great players but stuck in limbo by the majority and by the strict mechanic that handicaps them.
OP
Be Patient and wait
As the saying goes. “Rushing= Regret”
I also agree
No imporvements for the ranger class on the next patche/s.
They’ve made it quite clear by their silence; over and over again..
I think this is how they test new updates for ranger… http://imageshack.us/a/img694/4771/tno.gif
And this is 90% of rangers reactions to updates…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF_Ca45JRFsPLEASE FIX RANGER SOON
Totally Hillarious!
LOL
Franklin Fhenrir
Do you find Pleasure in belittling, Insulting and Humiliation someone who can’t write correct “english” at your “level”?
Shame
Seriously!
The Op had already excused his/her grammer, but instead of providing some word of encouragment of suggestions, thoughts and reasoning, you choose to delightfuly attack his/her weakness.
Even at the end, you supposely stated the OP had already admited his/her english grammer, you continued your enjoyment of sadism.
Quite Cruel
Don’t you think?
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Bababu
Honeslty i sometimes i think you are Robert H. in disguise, attempting to give the Ranger community hope.
Seriously
Great Job!!
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Geiir
My Intentions were not for you to not have no rights to discuss your prof-thief.
You mentioned how Arena net completely ignores the thief community, well it is indeed sad.
But
I can tell you the reason why, and also why i agree with you why thief is forced upon the zerler backstab build.
I’m sure you hear this many times before and it’t the truth.. it is because of Favoritism.
In other word, Arena net find thief class “Perfect” in their mind and soul (as this thread title- Theives- The One Man Army—https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Thieves-The-One-man-army)
They (Arena net- the Parent Class) see and find no fault with thief class; no wrong doings, no- nothing worng about them in every way.
The Irony and the Consequence when a company who playing Favoritism of classes is abusive and painful to the remaining classses and most especially to the Favorite class.
How so?
The Impact
Self-Ego (not bringing any support to the other classes)-
Grandiosity/Pride (Boasting and Humuliating “less apar/advantage” classes..
No-Accountability- (it’s Always other classes/players fault for not understanding them and not able to learn how to defeat them)
Control/Superiority- (Perma-Stealth and able to Reset fights at will)
Justification- (whatever they do wrong/abuse, they are quickly given defense and reasons for thier actions)
Reward/Power- (Only class to receive Nerf-Rewards… seriously ask yourself, :since all the “nerfs” thieves have recieved, have it resulted them in getting lesss Powerful?
Did last current patch impacted their core power?
So many; too many had left Gw2 because of this.. and many more will.
Favoritsm is Unjustified, and only Promotes Resents, Hatred, Unhealthy Treatment, Retaliation and Disertment and Unhealthy commiunity.
That is sad.
Again,
The remaining community doesn’t Hate Theives (the player) but Hate the fact how they are Intentionally granted Favor in the name of Self-Ego, Grandiousity and Pride.
Waffler
You missed what kishter said which is the main Porblem with Stealth Theif.
Once and for all- to All Thieves
" if im winning you will stealth and return back until im dead",
Your advice or any anyone advices does not apply here.
How is this Justified?
Example’ 2 boxers in a boxing match.
Boxer A- Any class
Boxer B- THief
Boxer A is winning with knockdowns than all of sudden Boxer B pull out a gun and shoots Boxer A and hide.. than return and finsih killing off. Boxer A.
Seriously,
You find this Justified or Fair?
Well that’s the Advantage thief have that no other class do.
That’s the Problem
What’s so hard to comprehend?
Even a child can get it..
Pavel.
What server are u on?
I challenge you to 1-3 sec quick deaths match by any of my commanders
How does 14k+ backstab sound?
As the saying goes, “one who labels and name calling, is as a blind man who tells you what color clothe you are wearing”
(I should’ve seen that beforehand)
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Renxian
To begin with, without being in-denial, you have 1 Leap of Advantage above all classes combined- Stealth
2nd- Stealth has no counter whatsoever
Where is your claims of countering Perma:Stealth? I must’ve missed it.
Other than stealth, obviously other thiefs skills are “coutnerable”.. by any class.
Show me your evidence of a class “countering” Perma/Stealth thief..
I’m sure that would put my “noob” knowledge and others finally to rest.
(also please share your experience and knowledge of “how your low levels classes” killing thieves in the thief forums)"
I’m sure they would find that quite amazing.
98% of the guilds i belong to are Stealth Thieves.
Infact
98% of the commanders are thieves- (rarely dies)
(Well Obviously)
That says alot..
wouldn’t u think
(here’s a quick joke for u)
How many key spamming does it take to be a thief?
(Answer)
2
why more? lol
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Renxian
Once and for all,
Stealth is the Problem factor, not I.
As long Arena net plays Favoritism, nohing will happen to Thief Stealth; “due to classes like this”
As you already know,
The only Nerf-Rewarding class is the game is thief.
In other word, no need to worry, you’ll still be Invincible.
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Op
I Don’t Blame your reasons for not creating a ranger class.
You mention Important reasons.. it all proves how dead ranger class is.
As i mentioned before, Arena net need to send this dead/Lost Ranger to its Final Rest.
Enough is Enough
“Leave the Poor Soul Alone”.
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I Agree very much with you OP including those who aren’t in-denial.
Well as Always,
Multitude Reasonable Important posts/threads like this is thrown out in the trash due to Elitism of Favorite Stealth Thief class.
Obviously
Straegen
I play a ranger class, what more Truth do u need?
Isn’t that Rational enough?
What’s more to discuss?
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Renxian.
Youi’re a thief.
That says it all..
“There is never room for Discussion and Rationality, if one is Enslaved to Denyingl the Truth”
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As Always and be Always..
Stealth theif; which i call it by name, is thier class of choice, Intentially.
There’s Enough of Evidence Everywhere.
They Will Never Answer Your Question Op because like many Stealth Thieves Players; they hide in, In-Denial mode, much like Stealth Mode.
Whats So New About that?
I hope that answers your question OP
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I have come to the realization that all these talks about how “equal treatment” our class is, are all Deceptions and Empty Words; especially to many of us who are Passionate and Hopeful for the Future of the Ranger class.
Well, I’m here to confirm that Arena net isn’t Passionate and Hopeful for this class either. In fact, many of us choose to be in denial that they are.
They have made it Perfectly clear “the devil in the details” that Ranger class has been long dead and buried. The “Ranger” we are seeing is the “zombification” of a Dead Lost Ranger who is wandering looking for its dead body to lay to rest forever.
Everything about this “zombie” Ranger attracts (Unjustified Nerfs), deaths, pain, brokenness,fragility, isolation, remorse and Sufferings.
These are all we Rangers experience and witness, time and time over again.
I ask,
Why Torment the Dead?
What Pleasure do you find in keeping the dead/Lost Ranger alive?
What Pleasure do you find in Punishing and inducing Agony, Suffering to the dead/Lost Ranger, over and over again?
What Pleasure do you find in pretending that there’s life left in the dead/Lost Ranger?
Why the continuously Imprisoning the dead/Lost Ranger in Guild Wars 2?
The dead/Lost Ranger is immune to Words, Hope and Promises….it has heard them many times before its dying breath.
So many Deaths by the silent stealth and Nerfs who continuously robbing us from our sleep.
We all must Unite and demand Arena net to finally lay to rest our Dead/Lost Ranger to its everlasting Final Peaceful death
Malice,Torment, Pain, Agony and Suffering will cease.
Silent stealth will cease.
Nerfs will cease.
Empty words will cease.
Empty Promises will cease.
Sorrow will cease
Brokeness will cease..
Dead/Lost Ranger silent cry, “I was Never Alive, I Died Long Ago”
In Memory of Beloved Ranger
Guild Wars
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A Super class that achieved Unprecedented levels of Grandiosity and Power
A Super class who is rapidly exceeding than other class in wvw and spvp.
A Super class who controls the battlefield more than any other class.
A Super class who sets the Rules at any given time without limitations.
A Super class who can effectively dictate the piratical means and details for all important game play at their control.
A Super class who decides the life-and-death in WvW and Spvp
A Super class who has little or no interest or regard for the “lesser fortunate” classes.
The Super class believes in a Perfect and Fair system that rewards them unconditionally.
The Super class is enhanced and benefited by close collaboration of a company who exceed in top powerful positions.
The Super class denies equal fairness and just treatments by “the lesser” classes.
The Super class think they are Invincible having close to god-like powers.
The Super class deny apathy, team-work and collaboration among average classes.
The Super class fears Fair competition because of loss of control.
The Super class ideology is to be the Ruler of the classes and will use whatever means; if by force, exploits, power, using powerful-tools at given disposal to ensure their optimal position of power.
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They nerfed Ranger pets being over the wall, yet they agree having mesmers, engineer clones and turrets being over the wall.
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Oh Great!
More Thief demands.
(You will get what u ask according to Arena net Favorite class) amd thier class Balance Philosphy)..
Just speaking out the Truth since Day 1
95% commanders on my server are thieves..
Also noted;
98% of them rarely gets killed.
So if u want that Ultimate Life Expectancy/Stealth
Go for Theif.
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Right on zerospin
“There is no reasonable counter to stealth.”
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lol
that made my day
Op
You speak as Dev who believes and cares about class balance; I wished you were though.
Because
You would’ve end Elitism, Favoritism, Self-Righteous, Self-Centered,Grandiosity, Egpoitic Superiority Mindset of class balance, especially being Intentionally given to a Thief class, who in no way shouldn’t, to begin with.
Unfortunately the one we have, Fully Embraces them and Promotes them to the Fullest; having no desire for class Balance whatsoever.
Also don’t forget
Thief is the only Nerf-Reawarding class among the classes..
You get the picture,
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Don’t forget Thief as well; any “noob” can play it.
Also
The reason Ranger isn’t loved by Arena net in my oppinion; Ranger class addition to the class list was made of out of Frustration and Disgust.
Well ever since Day 1 and t’il this day, we all been feeling them and treated by them.
We all have reasons to feel no love by Arena net
At the end, any chance of Hope becomes taunts.
Pretty much it
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I was looking around for a recent posted thread similar to this but could not fine.
Here goes..
ArenaNet Would “Love” to Add Faction and Nightfall Continents to Guild Wars 2
Read
http://www.gamerzines.com/mmo/guild-returning-cantha-elona.html
(your thoughts)
Palu.
I Hope the Best for your health and yourself
I Hope you Get Better sooner
I Hope for the Better Future for you.
May Grace and God Bless You with Compassion and a 2nd Chance to Live for a very very long time…old age..
They’re your only Savior…..
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Serraphin Storm
It seem to me you’re in agreement with every nerfs the Ranger class receives.
You are Justifying every nerfs that works against the Ranger class but in a good way.
Well
That will never work
You are the only Ranger who believes the Ranger class is Perfect, no matter what damages and wounds that are inflicted to it.
It’s your beliefs, not mine.
It’s a Pity, even in the Real World, many people believes every harm and bad things that’s inflicted to them/ that happen to them, are for their better good.
How about this one; another example..
There are people who are in abusive relationship who believes it’s a good thing. They believe it is for their better good and they will defend, justify and criticize anyone who thinks otherwise.
Quite
Sad
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Serraphin Storm
I want to remind you of the constant nerfs this class have received, epsecially the tremendous nerfs to our pers and our weapons; bows.
They were not issue created by the players.
They were given to us by Arena net, not us.
“So why don’t you guard your pet before your jump. Between the guard and the stow you dont ever really have to deal with your pet”.
Again I remind you (see pets nerf.).
That no longer is possible
So at the end..
You can not Blame the Rangers for anything because we have very limmitted control of anything that deal with our class and our “pets”
We are given No Choice but to accept all Damages and Brokeness to our class due to constant Nerfs.
May i also remind you of the many Wonderful Minded Ideas of Suggestions players had posted in helping Area net to 2nd look the Ranger class,
well they all have been deleted or closed
Who’s to blame?
Where is the choice?
How can you know about a class if everything wonderful about it is constantly being taken away from you? If everything good about it is constantly being used agtainst you?
(Majority of builds that work in our favor, gets nerfed)
May i ask, “are we being Punished for just being Rangers or no”?
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SynfulChaot
I get sensational when it comes to Injustice, especially toward the mal-treatments of the Ranger class.
I’ll take your advice into consideration
To begin with, I’m not “trolling” (see all my messages)
When the truth is spoken, Accusations of “tolling” is their responses and Punishments
May i say?
I completely agree with everything the OP stated
Is that “trolling” enough"?
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ARCHER (FINAL FANTASY XIV Reborn)
http://www.final-fantasy-14.org/classes/archer
“The enduring popularity of the bow is a testament to its elegant design, but this simple weapon would be of little worth without the surpassing skill of those who master it–the archers. Projectile techniques such as high–angle fire enable archers to assail their foes with deadly precision even at great distances. Constant assessment of the battlefield enables them to carefully determine the most advantageous ground from which to loose, as well as the nature of the arrows best suited to their enemy. Together with the longbow sentries of the Elezen military, the shortbow hunters among the Miqo’te are widely regarded as the most skilled with a bow. The guild’s teachings cover a variety of projectile weapons, down to the simplest throwing rock”.
Role
“Archers possess a situational awareness in combat which allows them to assault enemies from great range while simultaneously providing support to their companions. Though weak at close range limited by their quivers, an archer’s expertise in positioning and arrow selection can easily determine the outcome of a battle”.
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http://www.gamebreaker.tv/mmorpg/ffxiv-archer-class-breakdown/
“As you probably guessed, the FFXIV Archer is a long or short bow wielding DPS menace. Capable of chaining together multiple skills to do increasing damage, the FFXIV Archer relies on positioning for some abilities. Arrow selection also weighs heavily on a FFXIV Archer since some arrows are better against certain foes”
“.While playing the FFXIV Archer personally, I was able to kite most targets and get them at very low health before they ever reached me. This is where the FFXIV Archer really excels. In groups, the Archer has abilities that serve as mild crowd control and multi-target damage dealing”.
(your thoughts)
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This forum title should be called, Perma-Steath Haters
No Sympathy or Remorse for Perma-Stealth Thief
Ever
That’s all..
(Perma-Steatlh)= Wvw gods
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OP
You’re the 1,000+ person to confirm and not be in-denial of theif being OP because of their Intentionally OP Reward Mechanic; Stealth.
I’m glad you’re able to come about this strategy as an Elementalist against OP thief.
I Hope you keep it up..
I Hope all goes well in your favor.
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It’s very True… LOL