Guild Wars 2

Direwind.8409:

its starting to bother me alot..

WHY DO we have no range attacks! every other class can use some sort of 1200 ranged attack?! why not thief?! why do we have to jump up on a wall to even have the chance to hit anything in a keep siege (before we die instantly to focus)

im so sick of watching rather than getting into the battle, we need a ranged attck of 1200

Op

Seriously

Would you have a class that can range at 1200 and yet be easily killed?

or

Having a class that doesn’t range at 1200 that can not be killed?

The Point I’m making is just because a class can range, doesn’t make it more than a class who can’t.

You and all theives should know this..

(Thief having the Highest Single Attack (low Range), Highest Bursts, in all classes combined would make it clearly OP if it ever were to be ranged at 1200)

Not Forgetting Thief having the Highest Mobility in all class combined.. and if Arena net were to make thief at 1200 range, would be a Knightmare for WvW, Spvp and Pve.

In other word,

Be Satisfied and Appreciate of what you have.

Afterall

Your The Superior Class at every Range, no matter what Range.

(as a Ranger, we would glady trade place with you in a hear-beat)

Astral Projections.7320:

Kirschwasser.3972:

Astral Projections.7320:

Kirschwasser.3972:

The point at which you’re resorting to personal attacks in an attempt to undermine colesy’s argument is the point in which you have nothing to actually contribute to the discussion.

This isn’t about colesy, this is about the Zerker stats.

My bad. For some obscure reason I thought he was making personal attacks against all who didn’t play the game exactly like him when he called these people lazy, bad, and selfish. I have no idea now why I thought that.

It’s not like he undermines his own arguments when he does this……..

So your solution is to join him in the personal attacks?

Kay.

Personal insults for everyone who plays differently from him, in this thread and the other, were so common I thought it was the new standard.

But point taken. I shouldn’t have stooped to his level.

Why Instigate?

OP

I’m here with you on that one….

As the saying goes, “if you can’t keep a promise, why bother lying”

(I’ll leave it at that)

Well

I’m very Content and Releived Arena net Finally Eliminated MF because afterall, it only Encourages Leeching and Unadvantage Loot Drop Play.

No one should ‘pay’ to get better loot drops by no means whatsoever.. period..

As to players demanding Zerke; I Don’t see what the issue is, everyone is Entitiled to equip zerker gears/builds as they pleased, what’s the problem?

And

What’s new to all of this Zerker making oneself Vulnerable (zerker-low damage resistance)?

Most certainly if your Zerker, you are easily Prone to quick self kills..

I don’t see no reaso to complain if a zerker gets killed by other non zerker classes (unless its a Thief- zerker or not; “you are dead meat” to them)

There are no reason to complain at all.

And Finally

It’s not Arena net Fault if you choose to Zerk, whatsoever

The choice is in your hands; none other

OP

I Hope They Resolve this as soon as possible.

Joey.2769:

No No No they didn’t nerf it to stop zergs they nerfed it to simply kill WvW all together. They even added a pve version in the pavilion. If you want skill lag and culling with massive fights (numbers not skill in any way) and great loot (like 10g in 2hrs) come spam the legendaries and farm destroyers…..Yay

lol

Zenith.7301:

Ranger’s alright roaming, but the thief can roam just as well, disengage better, get his kills quicker, and he’s still useful in a teamfight due to stealth allowing him to harass the backline or skirting the melee train with s/d evade spam.

Ranger’s fun, but the pet is just a really broken mechanics and your utilities and traits are not as polished as the thief’s.

Totally Agree.

Op,

I don’t feel at ease with the Title to your post but i certainly agree with your statements.

Mike.7320:

ParnAshwind.4823:

I was just walking around in the borderlands trying to get map completion! Then a thief from no where blinded me and stab me repeatedly and bleed me dry!!

I didnt even go to territories controlled by da enemy, I was just walking around portion of the map that my server controls!

So no, killing me does not assist your server because me being there actually take up a spot that may no longer be available to someone else who really wants to WvW! You are actually doing ma server a service cos I ran back to LA sulking and heartbroken.

=P

Ahahaha that thief did his job well.. Lets face it, thief is the easiest, most gimmicky, cheesiest class this game has to offer for wvw.

If a thief cant win a fight (determined in first 10seconds of contact) they stealth and run away.

If a thief is going to win, also decided in the first 10seconds. You can try to justify thieves all you want but it comes down to the simple fact of being able to break combat easily, stealthing at near 50% hp and popping back at full. Lets not forget the damage either.

2222222 STEALTH

You are correct.

Aside to this..

Many Fail to notice is that Arena net is the bigger key player in the whole Thief Godlike Mode.

They are the one who Intentionally created and designed this class to Monopolize and Tyrannize all the classes including wvw and spvp world at will..

We can Hate Theif all we want but it is Arena net who should be the main focus because they are the ones who are Fully Responsible and Liable for their GodLikeThief Class Act of Malevolence.

In addition,

They careless about the Severirty of Impact their GodLike Theif class have causes and continue to cause.

1 Year Anniversary will be for their GodLike Thief; ‘let the other incompitent classes be the bystanders and watch their GodLike Theif be Awarded for being The Exceeding Powerful Class of 2012 and Beyond and also for being the No Risk Class of 2012 and Beyond’.

“If you refuse to be the bystander to witness their Glorious Thief 1 Year Anniversary, than trying run than ‘hide’ and wait for your Quick Silent Burial’.

‘Happy Anniversary’

Thief

Well at least

All other Mmo’s Stealth are countered,

Yet

Only

In Guild Wars 2

You will Find Stealh Uncounterable

And Not Forgetting

Only in Guild Wars 2 mmo

You will Find Perma-Stealth

Yet that also is

Uncounterable

And Hated with Malice

xephire.8324:

What do you dislike about gw2 and what kind of elements from other games that you would want to have in gw2

ranting

Supporting Tyranny

Contributing Tyranny

Providing Tyranny

Justifying Tryranny

Defending Tyranny

Arming Tyranny.

Supporting the Tyrant

Contributing Everything to the Tyrant Need and Wants

Justifying the Tryant Every Action

Defending the Tryant Cause

Providing the Tyrant with Godlike Single Attack Powers

Arming the Tyrant with Godlike Invincibility and Invisibility

Rewarding the Tryant with Infinite Escapibility

Granting the Tyrant Godlike Powers to Reset Time at Will

The Tyrant Theif, that is

and Injustice; at all cost

OP

Near 1 year into Wars 2 Anniversary,

Heartseeker, Backstab… have all been outputting Outrageous Damage.

I will say again and again and Forevermore again,

Everything you see and Witness by Theif class wasn’t made in error, everything from their designs, skills, traits,utitilites, abilities, are Intentional

With this another proven OP caught yet again in Tryannizing and being Responsible for Demolishing Class Balance- outputting Extreme Highest Single attack than every other class combine.. even matching up to in game- Mega-Bosses damage output, is Totally Outrageous.

Why in the world would a mmo game company, design a class to match the damage output of a ingame Mega-boss and to Support and Justify it?

As a Ranger,

Of course as been told countless of tiems, “buff up your toughness so it won’t make thieves easy to kill you”,

Well

How does a warrior "3684 toughness and 32605 HP all together: sound like?

Yet

Heartseeker theif able to output 7k damage in a single hit plus 4k on top of that and more.

How does that sound than?

Oh Yeah

Mind as well tell the Op that “he need to buff-up more so that a theif won’t kill him easy”

This whole class balancing especially theif class is becoming more of a comedy and theitric everyday.

And I Refuse to be Entertain by Tyranny and Oppresion

OP

Great Post.

Great Ideas.

shadowraith.9124:

Reasons for hate: Perma stealth and general slipperyness (ie able to escape a losing battle better than most classes).

This has gone unchanged for a number of balancing patches and other areas where the thief is weak (non stealth combat and group combat) have also been left unaddressed.

The conclusion?

Working as intended.

I’d happily lose perma stealth in return for some buffs to s/x, venoms and a p/p rework. Won’t happen though.

Any step in reducing one of thieves tyranny: Perma-Stealth, would be gladly welcomed.

But Unfortunately,

As long Arena net support it

It won’t ever happen.

So many of these posts and threads about the Castrophic Theif Tyranizing WvW and Class Balance far too long.. near 1 year Anniversary.. yet nothing been done about it.

The Only One Who Have The Absolute Power To End This Tryanny Once And For All Is;-Is- Arena net

Yet

As the saying goes, ""the one who support Tyranny is a Tyrant"

Is this Arena net?

Dante.1508:

Agree with the op always have thieves are broken and need hard counters, its a serious reason i gave up bothering in wvw.

You are not alone.

Within 6-9 months, many people in the large guilds i was a member in, totally left WvW and spent less time playing Gw2 because of thief Imbalances.

“Why give out free repairs to just 1 Invincible class without penalty”, they said.

*It’s unfortunate the way i see it, Arena net finds nothing wrong with theif clas concerning their Catastrophic Negarive impact and Damage to Class Balances, especially in WvW.

As said many times,

The Only Perfect Balanced Class is and Will Always Be; Theif.

All other classes will continue to be Prone for continuation of Severe Nerfs due to

theif class.

So..

Do I trust that Arena net will end this Tyranny?

Guild Wars 2 1 year Anniversary…

Yet nothing atm

I’m not so sure at all..

CobaltSixty.1542:

The manifesto is the Word of God for some people.

Indeed

Gehenna.3625:

I think that because MMOs have made everything too easy and just resorted to a combination of either throwing stuff at players or silly grind or time gated progression. GW2 has only made this worse.

The instant gratification has gone too far and made people lazy. I find it interesting how people think they know what’s going on by having played one or two MMOs. Aion has a system where you can combine items taking the stats from one and the look from the other…sound familiar? Aion also had an armour set that was the ultimate thing but one of the armour pieces was completely dependent on RNG…legendary weapon anyone?

Sure GW2 brought in dynamic events and hearts. Basically a new way of doing the same old stuff. Why do people think something is new when all they did is repackage it. Area quests are not new and that’s what these are. In the end you are still collecting x items, killing x mobs and defending locations or travelling npc’s.

Contemporary items in a fantasy game? Been done. Nothing new.

Really all GW2 has done is take things from other games and repackage them in a way that people are not used to. It’s fair enough and every other game does this at least to some extent, but let’s not overvalue this so called “innovation”.

Dynamic events are kinda cool, but they are repetitive and people are often trying to find out when and where events are. This is not a good thing in my view.

Also pve content is generally way to easy and the toughest challenge is fighting boredom.

But at least there’s lots of events and silly shiny crap to keep people “excited”. Once you dispel the shiny though, it leaves me with a game that is just as repetitive as any other game and often more. Why do you think they are doing all they can to keep you distracted?

So no, aside from a couple of good ideas on how to deal with quests and quest logs, this game has actually only added old stuff and made them worse in various ways.
I definitely don’t see GW2 as a template for the future.

Look at some other items:
Guilds
sPvP
Dungeons
Leveling to a sensekitten
Reward system

These are some of the core elements of this game and they are not well done at all. Oh it’s so great that everybody gets loot….what loot? A couple of blues and some gold from a boss?

No, the OP is entitled to his opinion but I see GW2 as a diversion, quirky deviation not an evolution.

I have to Agree with you with everything you stated, as I’m also a Realist (I’m no longer in Delusion) ..

One more item i would like to add to your lists of items..

Balancing Classes

Currently,

Thief is the only class “Balance/Perfect” class at the moment according to Arena net.

(just an add-on)

Paulytnz.7619:

Why close servers just for the sake of WvW? This game is still new (really it is) and as such more people will continue to join and play so they will need these servers to play on.

Forcing people to busier servers just for the sake of WvW is pointless. Obviously it means these players do NOT WvW in the first place. If they did and saw their servers just had little to no action you would think they would just MOVE to the busier servers for that action. Is this what this post is all about, do you just want a FREE transfer to a busier world?

It is not about “Forcing players to busier servers for the sake of wvw”, it is about ‘Balancing Servers" and most Importantly ’Eliminating’ servers Laggs, crashes and DC.

Infact many of the so-called "busy/full’ servers are capped, in other word.. the system will not allow you to transfer to them because they are full.

Well thats not entirely true because somehow, many and far too many players are able to enter these “busy/full” servers.

Servers need to be Balanced and at the moment, it is not.

Those ‘busy’ servers are OverPopulated, Thats the Problem

Another solution is to transfer a Large Percentage of players from the Overpulated to the Less Populated Servers

Therefore,

There wouldn’t be no need for the low servers to transfer or to close low servers entirely.

Until than..

Closing Low Servers or Merging Servers is Critical for Presderving WvW Population Status.

dargosian.2704:

They’re in stealth

Good Anser

very true

lol

dargosian.2704:

They’re in stealth

very true

TriggerSad.2597:

I’d rather not talk about it…

lol

I Sympathize the Op concerns; afterall i believe in helping and caring for the lesser ones..servers

How Arena net, How

(They Beautifuly Cared and Helped the Ranger Class- the lesser ones)

I Hope they give the same Beautiful treatments for the lower servers as well- the lesser servers.

Rushing to Conclusion make the result worthless; especially to those who blindly missed what the OP Main statements are.

Once More

And Again,

I’ll Mention 1 of them

“ACTUALLY GIVE THE THIEF SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, A RISK”

How many Sincere Thieves Agree with that?

If to sum all the “QQ’rs”..

Designing a class/Prof. with no Risk Factors’ whatsoever is suicidal for class balance.

Let me put this in a Realistic example..

A. Thief with HeavyBody Armor/Perma-Stealth— equipped with Machine Gun
B. Any Class without any Body Armor— equipped with a Handgun

Dueling 1vs1

Who has a Risk Factor of dying quick?

Anyone?

So Please!

Don’t tell me that it’s the other classes fault for not winning the quick death draw dual match.

Than after what?

You Put Blame on the Other Classes for not ’Learning or Out-Smarting the theif"

How can you?

Where is the Possiblitlies?

Any Child can tell you who has the advantage and will always have the advantage (no-matter what) without using any of thier brains.

Than why many here can’t figure this out using their full brains?

(This is to me how i compare theives with other classes)..

So

‘I call out for full-Nerf in the Name Of Class Balance (Remove Perma-Stealth, Reduce all Stats including abilities, traits, skills and weapon skills’ all across board by 30%.. and make 5 second more,,, stealths, counterable to all attacks and Remove Exploits from Stealthing from objects.

darkchicken.8692:

Forzani.2584:

A couple of things. These builds are kill or be killed. Can be a lot of fun. Fights won’t last long, so lowering your signet timer will rarely come into play during a fight. It is average at best in any 1v1 situation. If someone is prepared…and sees you coming, it is likely going to be a tough fight.

I use it more as a predator style. Roam around on the outside…pick a soft target and let er rip.

Have fun with it !

Thats why the best way to do a build is to try one out in game, in a real situation. This is the place where you will see what you use, what you dont, what you love, what you hate.

This is how i go for almost anything.

Same here as well.

too funny.

Op, you made my day,

lol

Vayne.8563:

I don’t know. I’ve been a hero. Last month I solved a murder mystery while fighting off sky pirates.

Oh, you mean you’re not a hero today.

Seems to me that even in Guild Wars 1, after you finished the content, you weren’t a hero either. Take Nightfall. Komir becomes a God and you’ve one. It’s over. Much like this story.

Except Trahearne actually doesn’t take credit for slaying Zhaitan in fact, he wasn’t even there. He says at the end he wishes he was and how you’re a hero and how you’ve earned a break.

I’m not sure what kind of games that you guys are playing where you’re a hero every day 24/7.

Since that time we’ve fought off the Karka invasion, we’ve stopped the dredge and flame legion from cementing an alliance…oh right.

Maybe you guys aren’t paying attention.

Rght On

marnick.4305:

If there’s a good reason to do so, maybe. I don’t know why they’d put any effort into that at the current time, there’s far more pressing issues.

I Totally Agree

To be Honest, it’s been Hectic for me as well; the outrageous Laggs and Crashes.

Hell Breaks Lose with 10+ zerges; it’s Outrageous.

Another Problems/Issues that been Plaguing WvW for far too Long.

In between 7 days, I’m able to play 4 days without Chaos.

It’s is very Obvious to everyone that the Servers are capped with players; Common Sense Screams. "Why Not Limit The Player Base Capasity on those Server’?

Unfortunately

That haven’t comeabout.

Seriously,

(What a waste of worlds with 1/4 occupants).

Very Tragic.

Seriously

Saelune.5316:

Would just be annoying more than anything. In theory would be awesome, but NPCs are stupid, and I can already imagine alot of yelling at NPCs due to stupid stuff, such as wrong targets, attacking when you dont want it to, perhaps kicking people off/not letting them on.

Lol

Yet

The Op idea seem quite Interesting though.

WvW; at lease give the NPC’S a more roles in interacting and aiding teams/groups.

How about the Comnmander NPC’S you find in WvW? We’ll they aren’t “Stupid”, they’re totally in full knowledge and Control of their Priorities and missions with no errors/mistakes made whatsoever.

This Awesome Interesting Idea was Greatly Implimented in WvW, so very likely the OP Idea will Hopefuly be implimented, in the not so far future.

We all know that Npc’s can Rez, so why not more?

(I’m sure Arena net find this idea interesting).

Looks Good So Far.

Can’t Wait As Well!

Unfortunately,

This Thread will be Dead as well.

(Death)

DevonCarver.5370:

I’ve said it before, and I will repeat it here. We are aware of the problems with the WvW achievements and will be doing more to address them in the near future. Currently it is more complicated to solve the problems than I would like, which means we need to have a fully comprehensive solution before doing anything.

With Sincerity and Appreciation,

Why Not Appreciate What The Dev Devon Carver Said?

Yeah of course we heard that before but at least a Dev is responding to threads.

At least the Devs is making it known they are aware.

At least the Devs is making it known that they care.

At least the Devs is making it know with Sincerity reply.

Where is the Appreciation?

Would it been Better if the Devs did not respond?

What it been Better if the Devs came out with an Unreasonable reason?

What it been Better for the Devs to Completly Deny any problems?

Or

Would it been much Better for the Devs to close the Thread for the Sake of Repeating the same Complainits over and over again?

Of Course!!

When dealing with WvW achievements issues/problems.. it takes time and many long tests before executing any solutions.

As a Ranger,

I have my problems as well with problems/issues with class balance, especially with (our Nemesis— Thief)

But

I can Sympathise with the Devs in Dealing with WvW achievements problems and I Appreciate him for voicing out.

For Once…

For a Dev in Acknowledging, Admitting, Responding and showing Care that WvW achievement problems.

The problems are Carefuly being Analyzed and to Hopefuly they find the best Solutions as soon as possible.

(Admitting Problems is always the hardest thing to do; we all know that) The Beauty of it all is taking ‘The Next Step’ in Resolving them.. without any excuses.

(same goes for Thief Uncounterable Stealths, Perma-Stealths and Over Extreme Skills and Abilities stats)— that long have Plagued WvW for far too too long….

(Intentionally Jeapordizing WvW would be Suicidal Mission for Guild Wars 2)- I’m Hoping Arena net, that’s not the case.

All I can do is Appreciate what they’ve done so far; as to Acknowledging the Problemss/Issue.. and Hope they Succeed in Fulfilling their Mission without having any Prejudice or Favoritism for any classes, the game mechanics, etc…

That’s Pretty Much It!

(Waiting for ‘The Next Step’…. with Open Arms)

OP

Everyone Please Read this; thread “been away, had my thief deleted, help?”

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/tech/been-away-had-my-thief-deleted-help

Supposely “you were away awhile”
Supposely “your bother deleted your Thief”

Are you “the brother”?

Are you a Bot?

Are you a hacker in disguise of breaking into and hijacking somone “brother” account who got Infrastrated by Arena net security team?

Reveal your True Identitiy OP..

I will not respond to your “thread” until you do so.

Well

On One note;

How can you Experience if “have a ranger btw love the patch Anet
also, when the pet dies it runs back to its master and follows him around, even in stealth”, yet you " cant actually log in"?

Than if you’re neither a hacker or Bot than clearly you’re a Troll Gone Bad.

Nice try though….

Thief class.

Haltair.

Interesting post.

About “The fact is that skilful thieves are skilful players who would kill average players in any situation.”

Seriously

You and I know that it doesn’t require a skillful thief player or even a average thief player to kill any type of players or to master thief.

I also belong to a thief guild, and this won’t even shock you; some of them aren’t even level 80-; levels ranging from 49-61, and barely skilled (beginers) yet they can rock wvw world at ease.

Zerges small or large, are nothing to them.

Funny thing yet Brokenhearted. is that, I’m contantly being Amazed by the Superior advantage this class have compare to all other classes combined.

Stealth, Teleport, Highest Burst, Clones, Highest Single attack damage, Highest mobility, Highest Survivalbiltiy, and not forgetting Invincible Perma-Stealth etc..

I do agree with you on how limitted thief meta is 100%.

Also why i see why people hate thieves, not only because of stealth but because almost all of their attacks are not counterable.. example: Stealth.. , unlike the other “stealth” classes like mesmer who’s stealth can be countered with Aoe.

Which in total calls out “Foul” and “Unfairness”.

As one forum puts it, Thief “One Man Army”

So for a class who’s stating hoiw weak and how awful they are, will always bring disputes and uneasiness.

Worse of all.

If Arena net were ever to buff thieves without altering their (uncounterable) Perma/stealth mechanics, will certainly bring chaos and Rage to the community/other classes.

It’s a Red Line Arena net must abide to or to Risk of losing the majoirty of players.
————————————————————————

nahj

The reason why thieves having high results and being popular is because, thieves being the only class that does the best high combinations of damages than the remaining classes; especially with having stealth that can not Ever be counterable.

So how cool is that?

Of course and obviously many theives players will show of their “skills” and record them on youtube.

In conclusion

It’s the human way of showing of their Greatness, Grandiousity and their Far-reaching Unstoppable Power; which fits Thief class Perfectly.

Op

Nice Video

I enjoy it better when you don’t use offensive language.

Other than that,

Good Job

Last and for all..

As I stated too many times.. Thief accourding to Arena net is the “PERFECT” class.. you can see why Perma- with Excell stats..

I hate to say this but will say it anyway and obviously..

Thief is thier Favorite class..

In when dealing with Favoritism; the Consequence is the “Ideaology that there is/are nothing wrong, no matter wha” with thief class.

As a Ranger class, argue against that Ideology.. but that’s the Price Thief class have to Pay for being the Favorite.

Favoritism.. leaves no room for “Support and fixes”

Op all I’m saying

No on should or can’t argue that with Thief Over Power Stealth Mechanic- Perma-Stealth..

Make them the best and only best Roaming class.

If you took Stealth away from thief, you wouldn’t see 3, 330 results

As you can see with Warrior having 3,050 results…

Now let’s say Arena net would give Warrior the Same Stealth as a Thief..

You would clearly see the results hitting very high numbers, even beyone thief
’s 3,330 ressults..

Hope you understand where i’m taking this.

Thief-

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=thief+wvw+zerg&oq=thief+wvw+zerg&gs_l=youtube.3..0l2j0i5.2361.3707.0.4148.2.2.0.0.0.0.113.221.0j2.2.0...0.0...1ac.1.11.youtube.mzn2L8bLKiQ

Yet Stealth have been more than 7 month

You can’t ague that,

I’ll do than..

Mesmers- 2,540 results
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mesmers+wvw+zerg&oq=mesmers+wvw+zerg&gs_l=youtube.3...119279.120949.0.121179.9.9.0.0.0.0.156.583.4j2.6.0...0.0...1ac..11.youtube.r8VLcdunwME

Warior- 3, 050 resilts
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mesmers+wvw+zerg&oq=mesmers+wvw+zerg&gs_l=youtube.3...119279.120949.0.121179.9.9.0.0.0.0.156.583.4j2.6.0...0.0...1ac..11.youtube.r8VLcdunwME

Nectomancer- 2,110 results
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=necromancer+wvw+zerg

Ranger— 1,910 results
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ranger+wvw+zerg&oq=ranger+wvw+zerg&gs_l=youtube.3..0j0i5.37515.39479.0.39753.8.7.0.1.1.0.140.687.4j3.7.0...0.0...1ac..11.youtube.D8JTXHNavx8

Engineer- 1, 670 results (not a Suprised at all.. sadly.. the loiwest at thej bottom)
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=engineer+wvw+szerg

Elementalist- 2, 250 results
Elehttp://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=elementist+wvw+zergmentalst- 2, 250 results

And to be The Superior Class that tops them all for zerges.. goes to Thief

Thief -3,330 result

So there..

Than please compare the video results for each class mentioned for zerg group.

You will clearely see that Theives having the highest results.

Op

I have to disagree with you entirely, especially with this statement “. But even with stealth being as powerful as it is, the Thief class still doesn’t outshine Elementalists, Mesmers, Guardians, or Rangers in small group roaming.”

It seem to me you don’t do wvw much, as already mentioned many times; thief is the 1 Superior class for roaming, mobility, finishers, tankers and survivalbity and not forgetting Invincibility with Perma-Stealth activated.

I got another reason why i disagree with you Op,
with 3,320 video results of thief soliong and roaming small and outnubered zerges; 8-30+ man zerg.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=thief+wvw+zerg

I Hope that clarifies your mis-statements.

Daecollo.9578:

1800 range stealth is underpowered.

I assume you’re a Decoy in seeing Ranger fail?

I’m not so Surprised.

I Caught You..

Bryzy.2719:

Rangers are undoubtedly the profession that were most in need of a decent update, and I applaud Anet for finally listening and doing the right thing. These updates are undoubtedly going to be great.

Something I’m DYING to try out is the reworked Remorseless trait with stealth and Path of Scars on Attack of Opportunity for the +50% dmg.

However, how long before the elites start calling “OP!” for nerfs?

Edit: I’ve always run a longbow/axe+axe build so I’m glad Anet are actually sticking to what they said they’d do and attempt to make more builds viable. I think it’s a great start for the LB but more will need to be improved to make it truly viable. But for now, definitely no complaints.

Interesting Post OP.

As I’m reading your post, I can say, you sound like me (it is something I would say as well).

Thats Hilarious!

I’ve already wrote a post in the Thief/Elitist forum and asuring them that they are not Entitiled to everything, yet Encouraged them to post in the Ranger Forum with concerns, discussions etc..

As already confirmed aleady, not too many thieves are complaining about us yes, but I’m ready.. always.. to passivlely counter their backlash arguments against Ranger class being “OP” and “to Nerf” us..

Also

Afterall

I will remind them of the story “The Ugly Duckling” and how Arena net eventually cared to give us Rangers’ a new life.

This is a Total Suprised to the Ranger class.

Of Course!

I’m Surprised and Happy by all of this as well.

I start to feel Arena net sbow of Care hasn’t been lost for us Rangers.

The word Favoritism “will soon by something of the past:”

My Hope, (as I already had mentioned before), is for Arena net to be True and Devoted to the Ranger class.

Afterall

They are our only Hope and Redemption.

Well to begin with,

I Never wouid Imagine Arena net would Raise the Ranger “from the dead”; I’m Suprised and Happy.

The Revival Patches are a good reason for us Ranger to look at a new life.

In Hope Arena net and the Ranger class to be united once again.

As I’m a strong advocate against Favoritism, I feel this is a new turn-around for us.

Once again,

Thank You!

Arena net for caring to give us life again..

My only Hope, is True Reunion and True Devotion to the Ranger class and community.

Sir Vincent III.1286:

Bryzy.2719:

Fade.7658:

Bryzy.2719:

Why is this in the Thief forum? So you can try and rally your mates to make them shout ‘OP!! NERFFFF!!!!’

Requesting that a mod take this to the Ranger forum please

You obviously have trouble with reading comprehension. One or two people are complaining about this. The rest are holding a discussion totally different from your claims of trying to rally thieves to shout nerf or OP. (even if it were the case, Anet is not going to make changes based on forum complaints)

Go back to the ranger board yourself, where you belong.

You imply that I was referencing what is talked about in the thread. I’m actually referencing your intentions as the original poster.

If I am wrong about why you started this thread, then why post it on here instead of the Ranger forums?

Ranger board where I belong? Yes I play Ranger, but I also play an 80 Thief, Warrior and Guardian. You are not helping the stereotype that people who main a Thief have a bad attitude.

What arrogance.

If you want it to be discussed in the Ranger forum then make one over there. We can discuss any class here whenever we want especially something that we have to deal with.

Now bug off!…please?

Any one/class is/are entitiled to post at whatever class/forums they want. This whole “Entitlement to Everything” .. a.k.a. Thief, needs to go"

I Welcome you and every Thieves to post in the Ranger forum anytime you/they want… (as long you/they abide by the forums rules); which i know you/they will.

Op

I totally agree with you.

I’ve been asking about this since for too long.

Yet

If it was the other way around, Aren net would nefed them to the ground.

For thief

as the sasying goes, “the sky is the limit”, “you can have everythingt in the world”

End this Tyranny at once

This has been on my mind for quite some time and i determined it’s time to let it out.

As many oif us know the histories of bots, cheats etc.. in Guild Wars 2; the anger, cries and Injustice we poured out to Arena net concerning them.

Yes, Arena net has improved in resolving them, i’m talking about in a harsh serious way (no Remorse), and that worked wonders for many individuals within the community.

To be Honest, i was content and satisfied how Arena net handled those criminals who rob, terrorize and abuse the core game value and other users accounts.

We all can remember the Rangers and Mesmers bots spamming everywhere in wvw, pve and Spvp.

Well that’s not the case anymore..

It is thieve who is the “new replica” of cheats, bots.

Yet Hoping Arena net would follow the same examples as previous histories in dealing with Rangers and Mesmers within that same arena, they choose not to do anyhing about it.

I wonder why?

It has gotten so oiut of control (especially in wvw), many individuals had quit the game and many more to follow as well.

Not too long ago today,; n wvwn, I noticed 3 thieves teleporting through the walls at a tower. The party group at once, chased them down on top of the exterior wall path;

Than last week. 5 thieves were spotted in our keep; same thing, we all chased them.

I just couldn’t understand how was that possible; there were no events, no attacks whatsoever, none.

Than i got a reasonable confession from an “old school” thief. The thief told me that it is Teleport and a mixture of stealth skills that able them to tele throught the walls bring other thieves with them.. The thief continues… even granting the thieves “True” Perma-Stealth within Teleport.

Well i told this thief, I and many others have always believed it was always mesmers who would hide than teleport others.

I was so in anger, i asked the thief, does Arena net know all about this?
Thief answered, “of course!!”, "why do u think thieves can stealth through any walls?,
“even hide though walls”- “Invinciblity”, “you get it?”

Than laughed and danced..

(I asked myself, does Arena net also laughs and dances?)

So i ended this Nighmare Revelation, and logged off

I leave room for vents, criticism and your thoughts..anything else..