Guild Wars 2

Renxian

Since you “read the forums regularly” you will await your Fate for Disciplinary Violation of Code of Conduct.

Renxian

First of all..

You stated that “the thief class is basically an assassin. Get in, kill target, get out”.

I would like to correct you on that, an Assassin doesn’t use stealth to
get in, kill target, and get out. In support; Guild Wars 1 Assassin..
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Assassin

Never once they had to use Stealth to “Get in, kill target, get out”.

Therefore

Thief and Assassin are no way the same.

In addition,

Guild Wars 1 Assassin t’ill this day would Eliminate Stealth Thief “without breaking a sweat” in 1v1 and 1vs +.

They were never a “stealth” class or a “hybrid class”. or a “confusing”: class or as someone has put it, :“a class without an identity”

They were true to their class..

Yet Guild Wars 2 Stealth thief aren’t..

(See this thread) Thief is not a thief.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Thief-is-not-a-Thief

Lastly,

I would like to correct you, “No matter if stealth was completely removed, so long as we have the tools to fulfill our intended role the cries for nerfs will never stop”.

Seriously.

Have you been following up on the Removal of Stealth Thief threads and posts in the forums?

The top listed concerns in all the forums is the Removal of Stealth Thief.

Why would the “cries” continue?

In fact

If you also been following up on the thief forums, many thief players are demanding and requiring Arena net to convert the Stealth Thief class to Guild Wars 1 Assassin class.

As a former Guild Wars 1 veteran,

No one Ever “cried” about Assassin being treated as Favorites or as being
“The Golden Child” class".

In fact,

Assassins worked hard with great effort to earn their Rewards.

Unlike Stealth thief’s who are Freely given their Rewards “upfront” requiting; no effort, no skills, no counter, no cool-down and no hard-work whatsoever.

Assassins when Nerfed were Nerfed.

Unlike Stealth Thief when Nerfed are Rewarded in Return

Therefore

What more Evidence do you need of why Stealth Thief is

Resented?.

" Still, it’s class that allows such things, and no other class gives so big advantage in any other “discipline”. Some are better at some things, but it’s just too much".

Anyone with Common Sense clearly see this as Favoritism.

Favoritism gives the Stealth Thief a sense of Entitlement to do what ever they please, without having any consequence or prevention to their actions whatsoever.

Thus,

Boosting their ego’s in enjoying the suffering and torture of other players.

Also,

They derive pleasure from treating and disciplining players harshly under their control (stealth).

Resulting,

Restricting players from ever escaping their control.

Interesting thread OP.

I also found this interesting thread "What is “overpowered” and “underpowered”? by Zebrahawk, in supporting your Rightful cause.

“For reference, here is how I personally define OP and UP-

Professions: A profession that performs exceptionally well in many areas (conditions and control, DPS, survivability, mobility, etc.) to the point of overshadowing other professions in many of these areas.".

UP professions would be the opposite of this – they would be horrible in many areas."

I raise 4 questions..

Is Stealth Thief Broken Class?
Most Certainly.

Is Stealth Thief OP?
Most Certainly.

Is Strealth Thief UP?
Most Certainly Not.

Therefore-

Should Stealth Thief have any Fear of Dying?

Why would they?

Simple

Elitists>Elementist>Mesmer>Warrior>Stealth Thief

It is not called “Hate” it’s called Resentment.

“Thief Resentment in General”.

Favoritism of Thief class is the cause of Resentment.

Arena net; the Parent of the classes, is Responsible of Playing Favorites.

And Yes!

It will never go away until Arena net avoid playing Favorites.

To Acknowledge, Accept, and Treat every class as Unique.

To Listen and Empathize other classes who has Favoritism concerns.

Instead of Trying to Minimize it, Deny it, Defend it and Justifying it

Interesting thread Op but I don’t agree with your last paragraph of
“Make us visibile (with the same stealth effect we have when we NOW enter in stealth) while in stealth, but still untargettable”

Anyhow

Arena net designing a class which Instantly rewards you in every way for just choosing a stealth thief class, clearly fits the profile of “Favoritism”. The Favorite is given everything, every reward instantly without any work, effort whatsoever.

In other word, they are given Unearned Rewards Free.

Stealth is rewarded to thief class at no cost, cool down, penalty or counter.

A cheap design altruism elitist favorite class indeed.

That is why this class doesn’t require any effort or skill whatsoever; everything is given to it at no cost.

Like someone had mentioned how a 12 year old was able to kill and down many players in WvW as a thief by just spamming 2 skills; such Shame.

What I find Ludicrous is that the majority of stealth thief players acknowledges that Stealth thief is Overpowered, cheap and bad design; self-centered, lazy, insecure which requires Zero-O skills and learning curves.

The only one who chooses to remain In Denial is Arena net..

In the name of Balance.

(They re the only Nerf-Rewarding Class)

Again,

At Free Cost

At Free Effort

Whatsoever

The Only *Unearned, Undeserving Rewarding Class in Guild Wars 2*

Stealth Thief.

To jubskie

“Don’t mind burnfall. He thinks everyone’s out to get the ranger nerfed”.

As a Devoted ranger, what “Permanent” benefits has the ranger class received?

As I already had stated, when the Elitists classes cries about; “how our pets attacking to strong, how our LB and SB attacking too strong, (most recently; how our pets healing us too much in down state)” etc.. we get Nerfed.

I don’t think “everyone out to get the ranger nerfed” but we rangers must not forget, we are among “wolves in sheep clothes” who states that they are in the best interest for this class who’s purpose is to see the “death stroke” of this class.. Nerfs.

Once more, Let me ask you jubski,

When was the last time this class got a “permanent buff and fix”?

When was the last this class was able to resist the tyranny of cries by the wolves- elitists classes without ever getting a Nerf?

When was the last time this class had mods/devs who were Devoted in helping and seeing this class succeed?

To OP

Interesting thread

It seem your attention is to help the ranger community with this thread.

If so,

‘keep it up’

(we’ve suffered long enough and trying to survive the best we can)

No Stealth………………..

OP

It seem to me that your high interest is for the defense for the Elitist Stealth thief class.

I assumed you would be in the Ranger class community defense..

Unfortunately

was wrong.

If so,

Is it your attention to intentionality post the video and build in resulting for the Ranger class to be Nerf?

In other word,using this tactic to sabotage’ the ranger class?

How does 32k- 32,692 backstab sound?

What would you say if i tell you that they can achieve 50k.. see Op

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Lets-talk-about-Backstabs/first#post2147745

Yet Elitist Stealth Thief is “weak and not that great”

How about this next one… . 36, 517k backstab

Elitist Stealth Thief- Highest Backstab thread

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Your-highest-backstab-ever/first#post2127144

Is Elitist Stealth Thief still “weak and not that great”?

I Beg To Differ

Op,

How does 32,692 backstab sound?

Is that “Exaggeration”?

You be the Judge..

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Lets-talk-about-Backstabs/first#post2147745

(see snapshot- attachments)

The Op (thief) clearly state that it is possible for a thief to get a backstab near 50k.

I find this quite interesting and would like to share this with you Op; The Highest Backstab Thread.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Your-highest-backstab-ever/first#post2127144

OP

I’m not sure what is your attention of posting the build and video.

One thing u and many have forgotten,

Once and for all..

Any advantage/s the Ranger class have/would have over the Elitist classes; will be
Nerfed.

Our pet damage will soon be Nerfed because the Elitists cried.
Now Maul soon be Nerfed once the Elitist cries; and they will.

‘Take my word for it’

Have You also Forgotten that someone had posted a Engineer high damage critical build, which was soon Nerfed after.

The 3 “lowest classes” in guild wars 2 are , Engineer, Ranger, and Necromancer.

When the Elitists cries, they are Comforted and Provided help.

When the Lower Classes cries, they are reminded to “stop complaining” and to “just deal with it”

As the saying goes, “Without Common Sense, You Fail”

Another given reason/s for the Ranger Class to Fail.

That I Don’t Find Amusing

Why am i not so Surprised.

Dev. Robert giving us False Hope.

Suddenly reassuringly us that he “cared” for the class and want to improve it.

Than he stated the ranger class was “ok” at their state.

Than he denied ever saying it.

Than this

You be the Judge.

Does he care for the ranger class?

Do they care for the success of the ranger class?

Of course not

Our Purpose is to be their Puppet For Failure.

What’s New?

Not much.

As I countless time been saying, Stealth Thief class was designed to be a Selfish and Self-Centered class

Obviously by now, many of you still refuse to accept that this class has no purpose for Team Support Play

My solution-

Banned them from any Team/Group Support Party.

Except of course PvP and WvW

Who Really Cares what they do,

They get away with everything and anything.

And wait!

Let’s not forget, they are the only Nerf Rewarding class in the game*.

And that’s not new

Same thing here, i had to relog 2-3 times to sell.

Than it starts all over.

To Op

I’ve discussed this with many guilds and players before posting this.

No one had Never seen this “Infinite Clones Hacks” you are claiming about.

As someone had already stated, robert, “reporting false stuff can get you banned..”

The Choice is yours.

As for today within the 4 hours, Wvw crahsed 15x times.

Yesterday within 3 hourse; 9 xtimes.

It’s Horrendous and Unjust.

Where the one who’s being Punished while they are enjoying it.

This ongoing Theatric has been ongoing since the game release.

Seriously,

I had already mentioned; if they don’t have a clue how to fix this Theatrics, best to give the game to other company/devs who can fix them and find no pleasure of hampering wvw.

Thief is the class with the best elite

OP

Outrageous crashes have been happening today; see other threads.

I wouldn’t encourage you to do anything more until you get a response from support.

OP

I crshed 9 xtimes within the past 3 hours in wvw.

You are not alone because other players are reporting the same Theatrics as well.

There’s other threads posted..

OP

It has nothing to do with your end. Check other threads who are experiencing this Theatric as well, include my self; today.

Within the past 3 hours, system crashed 9Xtimes.

Forget about the ‘repair’ theatric, it’son Arenenet server end.

Party Members in WvW had crashed 8-17 xtimes within 3 hours.

It’s irritating and unjust; either they merge servers or open new servers, the best case solution is for them to give the game problems to other company/devs who clearly have a clue to how to fix it.

This is 1 problem that existed since the game release and still unto this day, no Fix.

Every so called fix; are “Temporary”.

Pretty much that’s their solution.

To Op,

As a Reminder; without “whiners complaining and flaming”, there wouldn’t be any Change> Achievement>Freedom.

As the saying goes, “One Who Remain In Silence Gain Nothing”

“One Who Take Action Gain Momentum”

Than if that’s the case Psybunny, there shouldn’t be “Cry Me River” for theif class not being a supportive class and for not being invited by the majority of ‘team supportive’ classes in plays, events, dungeons etc…

As I already had stated, "Thief Stealth is ’Egoist, Self-Centered and Greedy)

Who would want that in a party?

That’s the consequence for being the ’Favorite Child", at the end, no one wants to play with you.

Accept it and move on.

It’s obvious by now thief wasn’t designed to be “team oriented”. By Anet rewarding this class with stealth, is the failure for team play. Let me ask you this, “is Stealth a supportive stkill”? Of course not.

Stealth was designed to be solo (roaming). With that said, every thief skills, traits and attributes revolves around Stealth and the only way to make thief a supportive class is to completely remove stealth.

Look here, mesmers have stealth but very limited; non of their traits and attributes are ‘solely devoted’ to stealth.

Than why not the same for thief class?

It’s common sense.

As long Stealth is married to thief class, this class will be by far the worst class for team supportive parties. You an delude yourself that thief ‘got what it takes’ but at the end, the majority of ‘team supportive’ classes will deny you.

Thief Stealth is ’Egoist, Self-Centered and Greedy)

Seriously ask yourself this, “what will a party/team will benefit from this class”?

Absolutely Nothing

-Only to themselves-.

Who would want them in their team/party than.

“Do you catch my drift”

‘End of story’.

I’m totally baffled by the stealth thief class complaining about how ‘weak’ they are, how vulnerable, powerless they are, how they can’t ‘tank’ like other classes, solo, have ‘range’ and how they can’t ‘remove conditions’ like other classes.

Why is the stealth thief class is ‘playing the victim game’?
In other word, why is the stealth thief class is acting like a ‘helpless victim’’?

‘How much more ’stealth’ blood do you want in your hands’?
’How much more unreasonable deaths do you want?
’How much more lives do you want to take advantage of?
’How much more Freedom do you want?
’How much more Success do you want?
’How much more Power do you want?

What is your goal?

You already have everything; you are the only class who is rewarded with the best designs; skills, utilities, mechanics, mobilities, attributes, defense, offense and the best traits in the game; once again, not forgetting your best reward yet; Stealth.

You’re the ‘apple of the eye’ of the entire class, and the game architectural, and infrastructure.

No Class Will Ever Do What You Do.
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Are your Ego’s, Self-Worth and Grandiosity being threaten?

Are you your ‘Worst Enemy’?

What is your ‘pay-of’ for ‘playing the victim game’?

‘You Are- Everything’

You’ve Already Won

You’re The Victor

The obvious is there.

Of course not.

Update-

Server Log-in working..

(Time to get serious)

:)

I find this confusing, why was the original thread of ‘log-in failure server’, was closed in ‘The tech support forum’ and transferred here?

Since when problems like these aren’t considered, technical support problem?

Do they really care or rather us ‘pull each other hair’ in the ‘game discussion forum’’?

I don’t find that Amusing.

Not for one bit.

Getting error message “the server was unable to authenticate your game privilege”

Anyone unable to log in?

Caedmon,

It seem you miss read the title of the thread entirely, “1 day of cheaper server transfers”

I think the majority of players in the ‘low severs’ or any servers, would like that idea and to have the option available.

I find it would be a Great idea; if it were to be implemented.

(not everyone can afford the high transfer fees)

As the OP had already stated “thief, the class takes little to no skill to play well and brings nothing but trolls to the game”

In other word, there are no such thing as “The Best Skilled” thief player; they instantainly have all the tools and traits available to them with 0-3 seconds cool-down, why overshadow yourself?

Once again, as I already stated; I had a wvw first timer level 37 thief in my guild who laughed about ‘how too easy it was’ while taking out multiple enemies players within 3-10 seconds. The thief continues, “I pretty much didn’t have to do anything, just spamming 2 skills over, over” Than concluded how boring it was, and laughed.

If it take a level 35 thief to see how “cheap skill” this class is, what more evidence/proof is needed that this class is in desperate need of a major “makeover”?

But if this class isn’t in need of any “makeover” by the designers and devs, than it clearly proves that thief class was intended to be a “cheap skill” ‘overkill’ class.

Haven’t anyone noticed the vast increase of thief players in wvw?

Each parties I join, 3 out 5 players are thief.

Even in the guilds, many players are ‘jumping ship’ to this class.

That says a lot.

It’s like, why would you want to pay for an expensive sport car, if there’s a cheaper sport car that is 3Xtimes better in all specs?

OP

Great Post!

I also been advocating for everything u have mentioned, mostly for Gw1 Assassin class who never was never in need of stealth, yet till this day; their ‘shadows’ can take out thief stealth ‘with no sweat’.

Why didn’t Arenanet follow their design and mechanics for the thief class, is questionable and disputable..

Having a thief class using shadows instead of stealth, would be a major ‘ice-breaker’, for balancing this class in wvw and spvp.

Would also help remove and relieve the tensions and frustrations of the core balance mechanics.

No need for nsulting and belittling the Op.

As a ranger, he’s/she’s entitled to express his/her feelings toward the class.

He/she even stated where rangers are playing a less role; in hoping Arenanet make ranger class more versatile; where are his/her crimes to be treated this way?

As a ranger, I and many others would love to see more implementations to the ranger class as well.

Wouldn’t you agree?

OP

You are not the first and will not be the last to raise issue with this class major leap advantage to the remaining classes.

First of all, it’s a Shame how this intentionally unfairly un-balanced class has disintegrated the core balance of classes in the game.

This class was not created or designed in error; it was carefully put together to be Superior in all stats, to crush the core balance of the classes and the game.

You may ask why would any anyone do that? Well, some do, even in the real world.
It all comes down to Favoritism and there’s nothing new about it either.

The Favorite One get’s the best of everything; is immune to almost everything, is given the strongest defense, strongest opposition, is Perfect in the eyes of those/the one who Favors, Pride and Arrogance is the Favorites’ One “Air”, has no weakness or mistakes, everything the Favorite One does; good or bad is quickly forgotten, forgiven and Rewarded at the end….

Some of us know how disintegrating and disastrous it will result at the end; not only to the Favorite One.. being, but to all those who are around him/her.

That is why we are witnessing the diminishing of the game population; no one want to be treated or feel inferior anymore. No one want to be afraid of being who they are. anymore. No one want to be Punished for standing up for themselves anymore.. No one want to be treated as the ‘cause of the Problem’ anymore. No one want to be called a “whiner” for crying foul anymore, No one want to be ‘silenced’ for crying out for help anymore. No one want to feel and to be treated ;un-advantage, under-privilege, un-fairly, taken advantage of, un-worthy and be belittled anymore.

Even in the real world, we witnessed the disastrous, heartbreaking end results to the Favorite One being; being alone.

It takes someone with courage, integrity, remorse, dignity and a conscience; especially (one who was chosen as the Favorite One), to turn around and question, “what have I done”?
“why”?
Something must be done.
Something must change.

I Applaud you Op

OP, I enjoyed the video’s, and your well detailed written thread.

Criticism, Honesty, Commitment, Hard work and Collaboration are critical for any company success; in resulting; to Great Prosperities.

That I believe.

Once again,

OP

Great Post!!!

Veldan, serialkicker, beren, Jski, gennyt and IndigoSundown; l will not argue with you, Snowy, Dante and StormageddonBK.

No need to tell those remaining individuals about gw1, "they know everything ‘self-knowing’, and are quite experienced and quite knowledgeable of the worlds of Guild Wars.

No need in responding to their Arrogance, Elitism, Pride and to their Egoistical arguments either.

As I already stated, as the saying goes, “no point of talking to a person about his existence if he doesn’t know how he got here”

“Why do you see so many GW1 players hating on this game? I would expect more traditional mmo players to be on that bandwagon”.

Thanks for making it clear that you Never played Gw1

So pretty much, I’ve wasted my time arguing against non-Gw1 players

Deceptions as usual

This should be an ‘Eye-opener’ and a Lesson for the ex gw1 players; the ones who insults, mock and humiliate us for *Opposing the errors/problems in gw2, Knows Nothing About the world of Guild War’- what a waste of arguments.

Shame

As the saying goes, “no point of talking to a person about his existence if he doesn’t know how he got here”

To OP,
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Let me ask you this OP,

Who sold more copies; Guild Wars 1 or Guild Wars 2?

Obviously

Guild Wars1> 6 million copies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guild_Wars_

http://video-games.findthebest.com/q/396/2744/How-many-copies-of-Guild-Wars-the-video-game-were-sold

Lett me ask you this OP,

How much percentage of sales did Guild Wars 2 lose since release?

Obviously

“both North America and Europe dropped dramatically, from 25% to 13% and 18% to 8% respectively”
http://www.vg247.com/2013/05/13/ncsoft-q1-guild-wars-2-sales-flatten-but-profits-up/

Let me ask you this Op

Who won more Awards, Guild Wars 1 or Guild Wars 2?

Obviosuly

Guild Wars 1> 21 Awards
http://www.guildwars.com/events/press/awards/

Guild wars 2> 8 Awards
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/media/awards/

Let me ask you this OP

Are we the community “Haters” OP?

Obviously

Not
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All we Ever asked is, where is the “manifesto” that were promised?

Does that make us “haters” for voicing our frustrations and concern of being deceived and lied to?

Obviously

Not

This Thread should be called “Why is Thief So Highly Praised”?

This is very easy to answer;

*Would You Buy An Expansion To A Broken House?

Of Course Not

The Upcoming Wvw should’ve included Thief Stealth Nerf, not this Theatrics wvw updates

Obviously

Stealth Fix or Elimination isn’t that Imporrtant for WvW.

Anyone who thinks this Wvw Update is the Savior for Wvw has been caught in a Lie and Deception.

We all know what the Savior Wvw update is;

None of this Theatric update will change Wvw for onw bit, or increase the gw2 Population; that I will Not Lie to you or Decieve you.

Obviously by now,

The Major Population aren’t Stupid to know your true motives.

Which is,

To Distract us from seeing the Real Problems that’s been Plaguing Wvw for far too long.

I Will Reserve My Excitements When Those Problems Are Fixed and Eliminated.

Also this company will never find a reason to Deceive or Lie to me with their wvw gimmick updates, until they get Serious.

For we’re Not adults of Playing games, we Aught to be Treated as Serious Respnsibile Adults

Youi can begin by…

Fixing Thief Stealth Class or Eliminate it from Wvw, fixing the class Imbalances, fixing the bugs that been plaguing the game since release amd Elliminating Class Favoritism

Than and only than, you’ll Earn my “Update Excitemnts”..

Sin

As numerous times, many including myself had asked Mr.Robert Hrouda to post a territorial video’s of how to "shutting down thieves all the time who don’t use venoms, especially if you have something like healing spring and Lightning reflexes s(…)” thieves,.

And still to this day,

Nothing

As you already stated.

What makes Nerf required for Thiefs’

Let’s see..

Master of Steatlh> Ninja
http://www.cart-white.co.uk/ninja/stealth.htm

Master of Shadows and Critical Stabs > Assasins
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Assassin

Master of Versatility > Elementalist
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/professions/elementalist/

(That was changed after the patch/nerf) they’re no long "Masters of Versatility

Does this sound good so far?

Well,

Not really because;

Thief is the only class in Mmo’s Gaming History whose designs, Traits, mechanics, abilities, whose Fully-Equipped with Extreme Damages.

In other word, Thief is the only Class/Profession in mmo’s history who has multiple class abilities, traits, mechanics, and designs “All Built In One”

The lists goes….

Master of…

*Moblities, Versatiliies, Shadows, Teleport, Clones, Stealths. Massive Single Attack, Condtions, Aoe, Dual-Weapon, Weapons Skills, etc.."

You can clearly see what this class is made of; with “Extreme Prejudice” and Superiority
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Try to put this together?

Mesmer+ Elementis+ Guardian+ Warrior+ Ranger+ Engineer+ Necromancer= what do you get?

This is quite too easy,

=Thief.

As the saying goes, Thief is “One Man Army”

You tell me, why Thief nerf shouldn’t be requirred?

Actually Geiir,

“Thieves BUILT FOR STEALTH are stealth dependent” that statement is ‘Dead Wrong’

Ninjas BUILD FOR STEALTH are stealth dependent, Arenenet mixed Ninja mechanism and elements to thief.

Once again,

NINJA STEALTH
http://www.cart-white.co.uk/ninja/stealth.htm

THIEF Designed for Steal
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1088048-Thief-Multiple-Designs-for-Steal

Last Note; Thiefs’ you call youself Assasins? Take this> Assassins GW1
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Assassin

Interesting thing is that Guild Wars 1 Assasin weren’t “stealth dependent” and till this day, thiefs are no match to them, even with “stealth”; they can put thiefs stealth ‘to the dust’ with their Evasive Evasions skills.
Nor they weren’t “useless” without Evasions, yet they still managed to be a Deadly ‘class to reckon with’
;see thier other skills and mechanisms.

In conclusion, all indicates that Stealth doen’t belong to this class; it is a mixture of other classes designs and mechanism.

Therefore, I Encourage Arenenet to follow Asssasin gw1 model and ’Once And For All, Stripp Stealth Entirely From Thief class"

It is Time to adapt.

Or Follow the True Model of Thief class with Steal

I bring you heartbreaking news.. was expected though.

Guild Wars : Development Ceases and Automation

Link> http://www.guildwars.com/players/

I’m not here to ‘bash’ Guild Wars 2 team but have questions concerning this new developement news.

1. Since there will be less team invloved in guild wars 1, does that mean we they will be working with guild wars 2 team?

2. Will we finally be seeing some ideals from guild wars 1 implimented to guild wars 2?

3. Someone had already posted a thread about monsters/mobs from guild wars 1 being implimneted to guild wars 2; will that be a possiblility with these changes?

4. Will we be seeing some dual/class mechanism from guild wars 1 implimented to guild wars 2?

5. Will we be seing some balances of game and class structures from guild wars 1 implimented to guild wars 2?
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These are the questions that come to mind.

If you can add more, would be welcomed.
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It would be Great if Guild 1 team works on guild wars 2; it would deff. be game turnaround or ‘game changer’ that we’ve all been waiting for.

I Hope they do, because they’ve Accomplished with Great Success; Guild Wars 1 Architectures, I ideology and Mechanisms and defined Guild Wars.
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I leave room for comments, etc…

As the saying goes, "the past helps us to not forget who we are; Only If We Choose Accept It’

Jacklo.

“It’s Obvious the ones who are crying to close this thread are the Sadist Elitist Thief class

You Missed the Are

Didn’t Mentioned You.. Nor “Berate your comments”

“This thread hasn’t "run it’s course’.
“If there were no Issue, no one would raise any concerns”.

And Yet Again.

You Missed my direct response to your comment.

Obviously

Yet,

“I’m the child” for pointing that out to you.

“Then again”…

This thread hasn’t "tun it’s course’.

*If there were no Issue, no one would raise any concerns’.

It’s Obvious the ones who are crying to close this thread are the Sadist Elitist Thief class..

Why don’t you leave this thread and continue your Parade of Being The Only Monopolist Class in all stats in the game.

Bickering in this thread will only waste your time.

Guild Wars 2 World Is Yours,

Leave us alone

and continue your Tyranny.

We Can’t Stop You!

Neither Won’t your maker.

We’re The Less Privilege.

Find your own to Praise your Glory in Triumphing in WvW

Cause We Won’t

As it stands,

Oppression Is Our Way of Life in WvW.

That’s What We Were Made For.

To Be Oppressed By You.

Are You Satisfied Yet?

You Should Be

You Are Entitled To Everything and Having The Best Of Everything

In What Guild Wars 2 Has To Offer.