Guild Wars 2

Misguided.5139:

If they were going to make any addition to shield 5, I’d prefer adding stability while channeled, which I think fits thematically with the ability.

I was kicked out many times in shield 5 today due to stab from dodge. Free fear for necro ds 2. It wont change anything.

Skyline Crash.6254:

Burtnik.5218:

With the raised cd it should become invul.

L M A O

Are you for real? You want a 3 second invuln on a skill that has a 25 second recharge AND that heals? While guardian has Renewed Focus on a 90 second CD? Mist Form is 75? Obsidian Flesh is 50? Elixir S is 60? And none of those skills heal. You do know warrior shield 5 also has a 25 second CD too right? And a mesmer’s distortion requires you to destroy all your clones (1 second per clone, 3 second max) and it has a 50 second CD.

Bro, I’ll type this in the most sober way possible, this is the worst suggestion I’ve ever seen in the history of suggestions, and by bro I mean never my bro.

All the stuff you mentioned can be trained and theres some serious difference.

Guardian also recharge his class mechanic.
Mist form is a stunbreak ability with increased movement speed to escape, can be sued to stomp
Obsidian flesh is 4sec invul, during that time you can do whatever you wish as enemy cannot do a kitten, can be trained to 33sec.
Elixir S is also a stunbreak ability which can remove condi, provide might n stealth (toolbelt), allows you to stomp.
Trained warrior shield stance has 20cd and reflect projectiles while being mobile.

At the very least shield should pulse condi cleanse right now along with it heal.

Still waiting for a proper answer to explain me this mysterious stuff.

FLiP.7680:

Burtnik.5218:

With the raised cd it should become invul.

They should not have increased the cd at all.

Obviously. Im against this change as our shield probably has higher cd’s now on top of energy. They could increase the energy cost to 25 or even 30 but instead they just slapped extra cd for no reason when so much unblockable stuff runs around. For me it looks like a nerf based on 1v1. Meanwhile mesmer has insane block still while being able to move, warrior can move and deflect..

But now that they raised it cd it has to become invul.

To be nerfed soon™

With the raised cd it should become invul.

And slow which makes our skills do..nothing. Like UA that doesnt evade nor doesnt land damage. UA also triggers confusion for each hit unlike all other channeled attacks.

We have tons of bugs, tons of useless stuff and they already nerfing..and in the worse way possible by slapping cd’s. I know where its going to end.

1 is condi ranged autoattk. 2 is melee autoatk and the olny one worth casting in melee.
Thats the direction they should went in for all weapons tbh instead of giving us a wep swap and now we pay price for it in form of massive nerfs.

I had hope it would be fixed on launch but i guess it left unnoticed.

Dagger.2035:

If they increased energy costs to reduce the chasing capability of the Revenant, it could have had an impact on “in combat” mobility. The benefit of the cool down is that it gives the Revenant more sustain in a long fight..

What impact? Energy is the cooldown. It takes 4 seconds to get the energy back. Cooldowns are affected by chill/power lock. And what if your teleport fail? Oh right..wait 5+ seconds. I have no problem with managing energy, i dont want to be double punishment in form of cd and energy just bc i killed some rookie.

Either energy or cooldown. This is not weapon skill. its been fine in all betas, and now it got nerfed for no reason.

Velho.7123:

Since the beginning, Revenants were supposed to have a mix between Energy and cooldowns, they’re not copies of thieves, they have low cooldowns and Energy costs in the unique snowflake way they are.

Can you link source? As far i know utility skills wasnt supposed to have any cd.
And i wish to know how they plan to fix now larger cooldown on phase traversal due to chill/power lock stuff?
As in screenshot, one mes can shut down my mobility for 15seconds.

Too op. I think they could cut in half duration of the boons to make it balanced.
On a serious note tho its a facet and they all fuction the same. Its designed to work this way

Killyox.3950:

No, no. Nerfs first, bug fixes second… .

This. Nerf before fix

Could someone explain me to it why we are double punishment? Wasnt the balance was supposed to be around increasing/decreasing energy cost needed to perform x ability? Wasnt utility skills supposed to have no cd while weapon skills were supposed to have low cd’s due to energy system? Is 25cd on shield with 3 sec selfroot block a low cd? Sure we heal..guess what? Warrior can trait for 20sec block while also reflecting projectiles and being mobile.

Our olny one mobility skills getting huge nerf, compensation? 0, nadanada. Who care about mobility, sole reason to pick up Shiro right? So smart lock us into one stance and then take our olny one way of mobility. Who care about general bugs, who fail if the teleport fail often to actually..teleport. If it was energy increase to 25/30 but no..lets slap cd on it. Slap 10cd on riposting shadows, its too op, quickness on demand is also too op and needs at least 5cd.

Oh then we have Glint heal, add 1 casttime and make enemy screen completely blue so they know we activated it. Just dont overdo the effects, newcomes may think their graphic card broke. And then theres UA..well whats about? Nothing, raise energy cost and cd to 20, make it stop teleport when someone move out of 450 range cus why not. Its OP.

But lets get on the topic, could someone (looking at you know who) answer me point behind energy? One nice pic to added cd to phase traversal. Way to go, way to go.

Oh and to the ppl who said 5cd is not a big deal.. Gl have fun vs power lock mesmers cripping your mobility to 0. Thats fine tho, right? Small cd, no big deal. Neither chill reducing cd by 66%. unless you..wait for it..waste 30 energy to clean it.

Glint heal has no casttime..well wait for it guys, just wait. Gut everything.

gannondorf.7628:

Admit that it was a little op… You was capable of teleport to 2400 range in two seconds and having 30 energy at the end…. Need a little cd to me.

Little op? It sorely main reason why i would pick up Shiro. To make sure nobody will run away and kite me. You competely missing the whole picture here. Thief has many ways to gain mobility depending on what they run;

shortbow 5 – shadowstep 900 range
steal – 1200 range, require target
sword 2 – SPAMABLE 1200 range teleport with return ability, partially require range
shadowshot – spamable 900 range shadowstep, requires hit
heartseeker – you may laugh but it cover quite a bit of distance when spammed
staff 5- another spamable 600range leap
shadowstep – 1200 range teleport with ability to return back
Infiltrators signet – 900 range shadowstep

On top of that stealth so prevent you from chasing. Tons of way to have mobility. And then we have revenant..

Axe 4 – 900 range shadowstep, require to hit
phase traversal
…? That is? Do we have any other way to gain mobility?

Tell me. Whats the point of energy again? Well give you freedom in ability to use your utility skills without cd, all balanced around energy management.. Oh but you still have to manage cd’s and be a sitting duck. We like to double punish people, so why not.

Lets slap cd on everything, starting from 10cd on riposting shadows. Instead of balancing around energy, all we gains is slapped cd. The “balance” is real.

TheDraco.3965:

They packaged living story season 3 in a 50$ bundle and we were foolish enough to buy it. That is why the story is short, its not a real expansion.

This. The xpac is really small. I have nearly done all maps already, the story was so short to the point where idk if i should laugh or cry, barely any new armor skins and so on. I cant even work towards legendary i may wish to have cus i dont even know how it looks like..legit.

Full price of a xpac, not even half of contest to call it xpac.

Thats just beginning of nerfing everything into ground due to crybabies

The thing is tho..glint heal dindt needed a nerf. Most ppl already adapted to not hit us during glint heal. These nerfs are uncalled, espesially phase traversal.

Now im waiting for 10cd on riposting shadows cus 2stronk.

Aldrin.7641:

put revenant in expansion, make it feel complete and not needing a nerf, wait for buyers of the expansion, release expansion, nerf revenant.

..And disappear from forum like a ghost.

And simply do the balance right as it was supposed to be. Increase energy cost instead of slapping cd on everything. 5sec not a big deal huh? Nobody thought that it is also affected by chill, interrupts and still goes on cd if it fail to teleport? And that cast animation..whats the point of it with slapped cd on it? Can we also get it as ground targeted ability now?

Also. I demand nerf to infiltrators arrow in a form of 5cd. That thing is far more broken than our teleport with casttime which require a target

You cant cancel upkeep in air nor legend. I agree it should be changed.

I need blindfold as well. And mist weapons. Where are my black-red themed weapons?

Laraley.7695:

Burtnik.5218:

5sec recharge completely breaks this skill. Might as well just unequip Shiro and never look back. Where is nerf to infiltration arrow which doesnt require any target? At this point phase traversal has to become insta cast and soon tm i will show something funny.

What is up with these cd’s in general tho, whats the point of energy anymore?

They realized they can’t balance it around energy, so they added cooldowns and are trying to change the way the class works.

I mean, I don’t see thief having any cd’s on any of their weapon skills despite the fact some of them are very strong.

They could increase energy to balance stuff out. Whats next.. Cd on riposting shadows? And like you said thieves got strong stuff and completely with no cd. And unlike us thief utility skills doesnt cost a single ini.

Infuse light makes little sense as we have to rely for someone to attack. Gotta see how it play out. Soothing bastion cd doesnt really matter. But crystal hibernation increased cd by 5sec? Why? Someone wants us to run sword offhand by making shield terrible? Phase traversal cd is obviously dumb so say the least..

5sec recharge completely breaks this skill. Might as well just unequip Shiro and never look back. Where is nerf to infiltration arrow which doesnt require any target? At this point phase traversal has to become insta cast and soon tm i will show something funny.

What is up with these cd’s in general tho, whats the point of energy anymore?

They should convert healing skills at least for Glint and Jalis.

IsilZha.3608:

Lala

Can i get my cookie?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeewXB-zdqc

Jekkt.6045:

idk against which kind of random build you played.. but that’s not the dh build people are complaining about.

on topic, there is basically 0 reason why deflecting shot should be unblockable as no projectiles in this game act as a block.

Cus reflect.

Well f3 still says that it olny block projectiles in front so.. A lot of dh tooltips are wrong or uncompleted.

Wont be surprised tbh in case if he left us. Ls3 launched, mission done.

Solution is simple. Make phase traversal insta!

I believe it always remove condition first then heal. Otherwise whats the point of linking condi removal to heal ability? Jalis heal is terrible as it is, no need to make it even worse.

There shouldnt be any cd on jade winds honestly..

Could someone explain me why unlike other skills ingame Jalis first heal and after that removes conditions? Every other skill firrst clean condi. It is easy to notice as under poison i heal for 3,3k.

Similiar situation is with sword block. All blocks ingame block for it duration+aftercast. When a warrior puts down shield he still block, so does ranger with gs or our shield 5. Sword offhand on the other hand doesnt block for it full duration. Towards the end it stop blocking even though the animation is still up. Basically i still have sword in air and take damage.. Imho its gamebreaking, time to join shield bandwagon.

Also other bugs which wasnt fixed during all 3 betas. Hammer which sometimes fail to aim with 2. Overall terrain issues causing most of our skills to simply miss. UA breaks itself even on flat terrain sometimes (so far olny noticed in jungle maps).

Rev is fun to play but far from finished.

Also noticed it. Landing the first sword auto in pvp is a miracle too.. I wonder how small the hitbox are

It is just me or lately quickness stomps tend to fail more often? I barely can stomp anyone even thought i finish animation, wait 2sec longer like a noob standing still yet stomp doesnt go off at all.

Seklies.2186:

Your signature, went right over your head, eh?

As for why you believe this is not a viable build please feel free to post back-up behind statements.
Also due to my experience and my play style I find this build to work like a charm. I enjoy trap settings.

Terrible traits. Lack of defense. You will die to anyone competent if they just look at you. All you have is evade from UA and hammer. 0 blocks.

Salt has nothing to do with it.

What if i say that its terrrible build?

For pve? Shield all the way.

gannondorf.7628:

Burtnik.5218:

Npcs at least recognize your class. One called me mist walker.

Yeah? OMG so cool! It’s the first you see or there is some others? Don’t you know if it’s work for other classes?

I dont really tlak to npcs and dindt played anything else than rev (and dont have plans to play something else for a long time)

That was some Exalted underground golden city.

Npcs at least recognize your class. One called me mist walker.

Another day..maps still dead.

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

You don’t just ignore an iZerker

Give it 5k hp so i can oneshot this pet and then it will be balanced. Its by far the most stupid comprasion i have seen as pets are not something which can die easily, they can actually tank a bit. Espesially smokescale which hits up to 20k easily. Balanced.

Yeah. I was the whole day today. EU is dead. Barely anyone playing on new maps.

Hm…i wasnt knocked back not even once under stability when i was stomping revs (1v1)

I agree. Smokescale needs a nerf badly.

Did you unlocked mist wep track?

I wish to know if anyone would collection for mist weapons..