Guild Wars 2

Starscream.7803:

Butter.3024:

Starscream.7803:

MasterYoda.8563:

Starscream.7803:

That would be that playing for fights thing we go on about. Even though your post was sarcastic you at least get what we was trying to do, being in your garrison was the only way to get a decent fight going.

Alot of your server mates like to use the SoR playing for fights thing as a reason to chest thump when you win, but its nice to see some people get it.

Please leave SoR and take the rest of IRON with you, you all clearly have no interest of helping SoR win this tournament and your 6hr karma training yesterday did the server no good. There is a time to karma train and a time to get serious but its obvious IRON only cares about loot bags. Oh becuase BG got a new 40 man EU guild is no excuse either for a loss of points lead we did have.

So the point loss was just from IRON? Sorry to be the once to tell you think but those points were lost going from NA to sea/oceanic (not blaming those guilds before you come back with that) , it was a little early for IRON. BG’s new guild is not EU either, they are russian, which again means alot of their play time is a little early for IRON. Are you sure you are on SoR? you dont really know what you are on about.

Me and IRON are staying, come on Yoda, you know yopu love us really <3

Just wondering what’s the mentality of IRON when we lose 25k points to BG in 3 days?
Do you guys still push? Do you guys aim for PPT more or just keep looking for fight and karma and bags?

IRON takes stuff all the time. But we have never made any secret about wanting good fights. When we lose 25k points in 3 days in a time zone we have no control over I for one dont let it bother me one bit. (I am not speaking for any other members of IRON here)

We are 1 guild and we play when we can. We dont do “all calls” and I wont emo rage over losing points because of a coverage problem. Sorry guys but I just dont take the PPT seriously and dont give a kitten about getting a shiny finisher. To Yoda and any others that think IRON should move server – how do you think that would help with the PPT loss and gaps with coverage?

If you want a official answer I am sure a officer will see this and maybe answer, Offski would be a good bet for a reply when he gets on.

Again i apologise for my lack of emo over the scores each week, as much as I try, I cant bring myself to care if i win or lose as long as i have fun and have good fights.

Wait wut o,o

I thought in SoR coverage, NA prime time is the best and then SEA and then EU. No?

Is SEA the worst then?

It’s not fine they should make The Lord weaker and weaker the more you banner it

Botinhas.2018:

Mayoken.9851:

Glad ArenaNet came out with WvW Leagues. Season 1 will set the precedent for following seasons. Every server fighting their best. What more can anyone ask for?

The WvW Leagues are the worst things that could have come to GW2, that and the huge achievements on WvW, making people that don’t give a kitten about WvW to pick up usefull slots…
The leagues are making a lot of players/guilds focus more in bunkering inside a keep/tower to preserve the ppt’s instead of going to the open field and pick up some fights, much more fun than bunker inside a keep with omega/ac’s/trebs defending it and no fights whatsoever

If IRON wants fight they should take SM or enemy garri or something and they will come to you, instead of you go around looking

Starscream.7803:

MasterYoda.8563:

Starscream.7803:

That would be that playing for fights thing we go on about. Even though your post was sarcastic you at least get what we was trying to do, being in your garrison was the only way to get a decent fight going.

Alot of your server mates like to use the SoR playing for fights thing as a reason to chest thump when you win, but its nice to see some people get it.

Please leave SoR and take the rest of IRON with you, you all clearly have no interest of helping SoR win this tournament and your 6hr karma training yesterday did the server no good. There is a time to karma train and a time to get serious but its obvious IRON only cares about loot bags. Oh becuase BG got a new 40 man EU guild is no excuse either for a loss of points lead we did have.

So the point loss was just from IRON? Sorry to be the once to tell you think but those points were lost going from NA to sea/oceanic (not blaming those guilds before you come back with that) , it was a little early for IRON. BG’s new guild is not EU either, they are russian, which again means alot of their play time is a little early for IRON. Are you sure you are on SoR? you dont really know what you are on about.

Me and IRON are staying, come on Yoda, you know yopu love us really <3

Just wondering what’s the mentality of IRON when we lose 25k points to BG in 3 days?
Do you guys still push? Do you guys aim for PPT more or just keep looking for fight and karma and bags?

Zikory.6871:

Speaking of leaving, Why did KH leave? I miss them…

Gold Wars 2?

If IRON left SoR, SoR will become the next TC

This is sad time, sad time indeed. As much as I love SoR it is looking very bad

I will keep this short and simple

Change 2 weeks LW into 1 month LW (or more)

Quality > Quantity

Remove Hammer might be a bit extreme….

Let’s remove it!

Why is it called soviet BG?

So I should retrait into 20 domination for Torch Improvement and 20 for Duelist for Deceptive Evasion huh, less Defensive and more Offensive?

Looking at the score makes me so sad

21k points loss in 3 days

Yes no maybe?

idk about you guys but lately there have been so many people advertising in LFG tools selling p2 Arah for 4-6g. imo this is not gonna be a very healthy thing for the community, and Anet should intervene. What do you guys think?

I used to play just like you.

Until I discover how amazing main hand sword is, muahwahwhawhahaw. Not to mention offhand focus is freaking AWESOME in wvw, watch those body slide due to your #4 is the best feeling in the world.

I guess you will just have to get used to it. For those lucky sPvP they can just reroll easily but for those who have invest hundred of hours on their class into WvW( Rangers and Mesmers, might or might not be me), you will just have to bite the pain and hope Anet will fix it soon

BlackDevil.9268:

Thank you (:
Hard to say. Can give you a lot tips, but I’ll be sweet for a night then. Highly depends on the build you play and on your pro’s and con’s.

How do you turn your camera 180 degree behind instantly and then instantly turn it back?

I am running this build right now and I am having decent success with it, mostly because my commander is very good

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQRAsf8dlwzKqHTzqGb9IhpHB33AH1Dwv9vXqAvB-jkCBYgBCZM0EDBi8I05cFRjtMsIasabYKXJV/CQDLySBwkwI-w

Feedback if I want damage or Null Field if I want more of a support role.

Between Decoy, Blink, Mass Invis, Blurr Frenzy, Distortion, and Prestige and Primastic Understanding, I am incredibly tough to killed or get caught, this and factor in some good toughness and vitality means I will be just as survival as a Warrior.

I always stay with the commander, when we push in I sword 3 and leap and Blurry Frenzy, while Blurr Frenzy I activate f1 f2 and f3. This surprisingly do some very good damage, especially when crits (about 5-6k damage in AoE) while dazing the enemy.

I will probably never die between so much defensive ability unless I got caught with both Decoy and Blink down.

What do you think? Is this a good build? Do I provide enough damage for the team? Should I go a bit more Berserker and less Vitality? Or should I retrait 30 pts of Chaos into 20 pts into Domination and 20 pts in Dueling?

SoR 2013 – throwing since 16k points lead. Its both gonna be sad and hilarious if SoR loses this matchup after having such an advantage

Would you guys rather seeing a small amount of content every 2 weeks, or a large amount of content every 2 month?

imo 2 weeks content might be interesting now, but after a while it will just be like daily, tedious and repetitive. I would rather see Anet focus their team on one big project and pump on contents slow but awesome. ( like big overhaul to sPvP, major class balances, new dungeons, new mechanics, new lands, etc )

I think quality > quantity in this case. Plus i bet it will relieve some stress off the Anet devs team, having to released a new patch every 2 weeks seem really stressful for me.

Ryan.8367:

BurrTheKing.8571:

You know why you see a lot of Warriors?

Because you see a lot of Necromancers and Spirit Rangers.

Why wouldn’t you try out a class that has a spec that hard counters 2 popular builds? It’s the player’s fault for not trying to counter Hambow en masse that results in more players switching. If we saw more Mesmers, Power Necros, Power Rangers (XD), and any other of the numerous counters to the current Warrior meta builds you would see less of them.

Wait what, you’re clearly talking about PvP only then because probably 1% of the population is spirit rangers in WvW because it’s a terrible build in WvW – classes scale much better in WvW than in PvP compared to the ranger. Also, rangers are very bad in WvW overall compared to PvP and also get nerfed based upon PvP prowess being a back point holder and nothing else.

Power rangers do not counter warriors i wish people would stop kittening saying that. Dude any semi-competitive power ranger is running bow, all the warrior then has to do and good warriors will is slot weapons with max blocks w/ reflect and laugh, you’re a seasoned warrior Burr and you can’t figure that out?

I wish people would stop bringing ranger into the discussion everytime someone mentions warriors are op, rangers is not op at all and has a very low skill ceiling as it is. Jesus christ. It’s kittening ridiculous. I wish ranger had as much build access, viability, passive sustain as the warrior has then I wouldn’t mind people talking kitten about it every chance they get.

didnt rangers got nerfed hard last patch?

Artaz.3819:

DeWolfe.2174:

Does it, absolutely not. Anet tries to balance around what is being used. Obviously, there must have been a decline in Warrior usage for them to make changes. I unapologetically run my Healing Signet Hammer Warrior since it’s my original character. One that’s been shelved for quite some time from WvW because of suboptimal performance. Finally, I get to run it again!

For sPvP, this isn’t the best time to judge it. A lot of us are bored waiting for the WvW Queue’s and simply going into sPvP to have something to do.

ANet is 6-7 months behind the valid complaints/valid feedback suggestions of this board. I talked about the issues with Warriors back in March/April of 2013 (one/two months after the lifesteal crit food nerf/condition counter meta (for the sake of melee) that affected the Warrior most) and what needed to be addressed immediately. I then predicted that Warriors would return to sensible playable levels in September 2013…

EDIT: ‘Sensible’ playing levels is relative since who knew ANet devs didn’t understand how much Healing Signet base healing should give.

Warriors then received a huge nerf in May 2013 (swapping major Adrenaline damage talents to Grandmaster amongst other tweaks) before ANet realized how badly they broke Warriors in general. It took until basically August (with a couple of minor tweaks to mostly garbage talents in between) before Warriors started seeing a return to the fold. Warriors have now seen the light of god-like in September and they are where they are now in October.

I would expect another 2 months (just like the condition meta issue) of Warrior ‘god-like’ status (all relative because well, there is always a better class in general that continues to be ignored by so so many people even though it is repeatedly mentioned in this very thread).

By magically looking into my crystal ball, Warriors will be nerfed (probably post-season 1 WvW) +/- three weeks.

Prepare for the return of the Mesmer… maybe some added Ele/Engin tweaks coming too … sorry Rangers, you all are the red-headed stepchild since pet AI is still well … AI.

They not gonna nerf Warriors any time soon because it would stop making them the best PvE class

What happens to SoR yesterday?

Shifty.4985:

Butter.3024:

SoR loses 10k points in one day? wut

Our NA decides to slack
Your NA does an all call
Also didnt help with the arrival of ZDs .. Wuut

I thought prime time NA SoR is okay, it’s SEA that is messing SoR up?

SoR loses 10k points in one day? wut

List your ideas and builds here.

IMO a really really good Thief or a really good retal Guardian

Ok so everyone agrees that this is probably the worst phantasm ever. I think it is even weaker than Staff Clones and Sword Clones. Any how, first off confusion and retaliation means it is pretty useless in PvE, then it only bounces a few times and take long time to cast and it is so very unreliable means it is useless in WvW, the only place where we thought it would be decent is sPvP but it is pretty bad too.

It just doesn’t do anything, if you lucky it will do 400-600 damage at best, if you are not lucky it might as well be another clone. It supposes to be a Phantasm for god sake. Anet pls do something to iMage, Torch is such a cool weapon I don’t want to be limited just because it has one bad skill. Just make iMage do something, it doesn’t have to be as strong as iZerker, just something

Easy win for JQ

IRON is carrying SoR hard this week <3

Who cares? Just roll a Warrior it’s sPvP you dont need to grind like WvW or PvE

LinkR.6190:

It’s to encourage people to actually contribute actual thought in their responses.
Things like “this, ^, lol, agreed, etc” contribute practically nothing to the conversation.

Not really.

I can just type “15 char” and there i have 15 characters for the post, thats my point

Please?

15 char

As you see putting 15 character requirement doesnt really help it’s just annoying. Sometimes a good post is a short and simple post, pls don’t make us type “15 char” every time we to do it. Pretty please Anet?

Necromancer is the best if you like conditon damage. If anyone tells you Necro isnt, they are wrong

Newski.5640:

I am still trying to pin down EXACTLY what is considered ‘condition damage’. Is it basically any DoT?

Conditions are all the debuffs they enemies put on you (weakness, blind ), conditions damage is only the debuff that deals damage to you ( bleed, burning )

Dee Jay.2460:

I see what the OP is getting at and I kind of agree.

Warriors aren’t ridiculously overpowered in the way that they one-shot everyone, all the time. It’s just that they don’t make the same sacrifices most other classes have to.

If a Thief wants to deal serious damage, he/she will be very squish…..and I mean very.

A Guardian that wants to be a bunker will sacrifice a lot of offensive pressure in the process.

Warriors in that regard, do not make comparable trade-offs. They can have immense offensive pressure while still retaining a lot of survivability. When they do go all out bunker their damage and CC is still respectable.

To give a more tangible example:

Say all classes had 10 points to distribute between offense and defense.

A Dagger/Dagger Thief might be – 2 Defense, 8 Offense.
A Pistol/Dagger Thief in contrast might be – 8 Defense, 2 Offense

An Elementalist that goes full damage is a serious glass-cannon.

Warriors on the other hand seem to have 12 or 14 points do distribute, as opposed to the 10 most classes have.

Not every single aspect of them is OP, just the entire package combined.

Pretty much this

No, no, and hell no.

I strongly believe that it is impossible to balance every class in the game perfectly, it is just simply impossible. Even Chess, the so called most balanced game, is not balanced since one person will go first.

I think Anet knows this so instead of making every class the same, they give them advantages and disadvantages

For example:

Thief
+ Has a lot of stealth skills
+ Very good mobility
+ Very high single target burst and sustained damage

- Fairly squishy
- Very weak against CCs
- Fairly hard to play effectively
- Bad AoE damage and group support

or

Guardian
+ Very tanky, hard to bring down
+ Very good group support
+ Easy access to some of the best boons in the game

- Mediocre damage
- Rely on good teammates to be effective
- Mediocre CCs
- Conditions damage are nightmare

or

Elementalist
+ Great AoE damage
+ Great CCs
+ The only class with reliable Water Field
+ Very good in group play

- Squishy, very squishy
- Easy target to Thief and Mesmer and such
- Mediocre single target damage

As you see, most classes are strong at a certain field while having weakness in order to provide counter play. But right now I don’t think Warriors have any weakness. Right now I believe, and most of us too, that Warriors are like this:

Warriors
+ Great CCs
+ Very tanky
+ Great damage
+ Good conditions removal
+ Stability on demand
+ Good mobility

- ???

I think that Warriors being strong is fine, as I said it is very hard to balance all the classes in the game perfectly. But I think that Warriors need to have weaknesses, if they have good CC and damage and tanky they shouldnt have good mobility and stability. If they have great mobility and stability and damage they shouldnt have great CC.

My point is, give Warriors some weaknesses in order to create counter play while preserving their strong ability.

Sreoom.3690:

Maybe the Keep Lord should get weaker each time he is rez’d? (Sort of like us mere virtual mortals).

Yea this is a good idea too, 20% less HP every time he revives maybe?

Ok so this tactic has been there forever but now after Anet buffs Warriors and their rise in popularity, it is getting out of hand.

My server was attacking the other server garrison, since they dont put up any AC its pretty easy to get inside Lord Room. Now the other server has like 20 Warriors, and Warriors kept pushing in with stability and revive the lord. We seriously fight there for more than 2 hours, and eventually we have to back out because everyone was so tired.

This should not happen, im okay with banner reviving lord, but put a CD on it like you can only revive lord once every 10 mins, it should at least take some skills for them to defend their garrison not just press Stability and press banner on lord.

Before you tell me to CC and kill the Warriors, think again, Warriors are extremely hard to kill with great mobility AND stability. Not to mention their warhorn can remove immobilize so there is no way to kill all the Warriors in time. Plus you also have to remember there aren’t just Warriors, there any other classes pushing in too.

BlackDevil.9268:

Butter.3024:

BlackDevil.9268:

Lol blink selfish? If you dont have any stunbreaker with shatter build you’ll be most likely kittened 90% of the fights.

Melee trains do NOT, I repeat NOT rely having everyone on the commander. Melee trains are also known as front line. Every organised zerg got a melee train and a backline. The therm melee came from stacking up massive numbers wars and guards what was really op in start game and the most efficient cause shouts heals had no cap on players.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmJ1QZ_aPqc

Video is a bit old, but I guess you can get to know what your movement should look like. Though since you get more damage now you also get retal dmg from blurred frenzy you should spec a bit more defensive. Aim between 1500-1600 toughness and at least 1200 vitality. Guard stacks (250 vit) should help a lot covering the low vitality.

http://intothemists.com/guides/1610-raid_build_20 That’s what I run atm based on confusion mostly since it’s like impossible to run power shatter spec with this idiotic lag lately, however my old spec was:

http://intothemists.com/guides/1276-raid_shatter

Basicly almost only difference is gears.

That is some great game play

How do you know when to peel off and DPS with GA from afar, when to stack back to the melee train, when to leap in blur frenzy?

How come there isn’t a lot of conditions on you? When I play there are always like 4,5 conditions on me all the time.

Movement and experience. I’ve been in red guard long enough to know almost 99% of the time where sacrx would move.
Funny thing is, the first times I was raiding with scnd I thought I knew where sylas (the raid leader) was going to, but I was wrong much more often than with sacrx.
You gotta get used to how your raid leader moves/commands.

Dawdler.8521:

BlackDevil.9268:

Lol blink selfish? If you dont have any stunbreaker with shatter build you’ll be most likely kittened 90% of the fights..

And we have 2 stunbreakers that give 2×2s of AoE stability to your group. Untraited its on the same cooldown as traited blink.

How exactly is Blink not selfish when compared to Mantra of Concentration?

1 stunbreaker should be enough. When played correctly you shouldn’t get stuck by CC 2 times within 30 seconds in a fight, and even if you do, you always got f4.

Also, do you know the radius on that mantra? Yes exactly, as big as chaos storm is. It’s not like melee trains gonna rely on that or get a lot benefits from that.
Another point is that it’s a ’’stunbreaker’’ that can be countered. With so many necros running these days there’s a pretty high chance the stability gets either removed or transfered into fear which will both most likely kill you or put you on full cooldown.
Another point is that the casting time lowers your dps and that, even when you get out of the cc walls stability, you still get much more dmg than when you blink out of it since you still have to run through.

For example: Your raid flanks another raid. Ofc they pop their stability and try to avoid as much dmg as they can still. Right after they will place CC. Now you jump in a bit too late and your raid moves off to regroup, while you’re still stuck in the CC. Your mates are already out of there, so the mantra will only affect you. There’s a pretty big chance there are necro wells on the floor, and you wont have too many boons since you’re a mesmer, that might remove your stability. This means you have pop f4, you’ll be most likely down to about 5-10k hp so you gotta dodge twice and stay at the backline and deal barely any dmg till you are off cd to jump in again.
While if you would’ve had blink: ’’blablabla’’, you blink out, surive with 15k hp, 2 dodges and f4 and you can easily jump in again when your raid does another flank.

Your videos are very good ;o

Any tips for playing a roaming mesmer and zerg mesmer?

SykkoB.9465:

JQ really crying about being 2v1ed for once???. I mean come on SOR and BG have had to deal with this for 10+ months, and the first time JQ can no longer use the BG/SOR rivalry to there advantage they whine.

again JQ has used BG/SOR rivalry to create 2v1s for a year now, and r now crying that you had to deal with it for 1 week.

Pretty much this

Why are JQ complaining about 2v1? BG and SoR 2v1 JQ for like 8 hours yesterday, but JQ has been best buddy with BG and 2v1 SoR since the beginning of time. You dont see SoR crying about it, only JQ

You think JQ gonna win because they have easier schedule?

Edit your post now before it’s too late ;o

Oh wait they probably gonna take forever to fix it anyway ( sword leap bug, temporal curtain bug, arcane thievery fishy, oh and warriors bersker stance make the immune to conditions )

So JQ is out of the picture, I guess that’s why Anet gave JQ easier schedule so that they cancompete against BG and SoR.

Who so you think will win this season? BG or SoR

Yes?
No?
Why or why not?

IMO I’m just sick of seeing tons of warriors in sPvP, WvW, PvE it’s getting annoying how hard it is to kill them while doing lots of damage.

And no just because Warriors in sPvP were weak before the buffs are no excused for a class to be OP. You guys have to remember the majority of players are in WvW and PvE, sPvP is not very popular because of professions balance

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Dawdler.8521:

BlackDevil.9268:

Lol blink selfish? If you dont have any stunbreaker with shatter build you’ll be most likely kittened 90% of the fights..

And we have 2 stunbreakers that give 2×2s of AoE stability to your group. Untraited its on the same cooldown as traited blink.

How exactly is Blink not selfish when compared to Mantra of Concentration?

Maybe blink is a better oh crap button and it offers more mobility? But stability and 2x stun break sounds very nice

BlackDevil.9268:

Lol blink selfish? If you dont have any stunbreaker with shatter build you’ll be most likely kittened 90% of the fights.

Melee trains do NOT, I repeat NOT rely having everyone on the commander. Melee trains are also known as front line. Every organised zerg got a melee train and a backline. The therm melee came from stacking up massive numbers wars and guards what was really op in start game and the most efficient cause shouts heals had no cap on players.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmJ1QZ_aPqc

Video is a bit old, but I guess you can get to know what your movement should look like. Though since you get more damage now you also get retal dmg from blurred frenzy you should spec a bit more defensive. Aim between 1500-1600 toughness and at least 1200 vitality. Guard stacks (250 vit) should help a lot covering the low vitality.

http://intothemists.com/guides/1610-raid_build_20 That’s what I run atm based on confusion mostly since it’s like impossible to run power shatter spec with this idiotic lag lately, however my old spec was:

http://intothemists.com/guides/1276-raid_shatter

Basicly almost only difference is gears.

That is some great game play

How do you know when to peel off and DPS with GA from afar, when to stack back to the melee train, when to leap in blur frenzy?

How come there isn’t a lot of conditions on you? When I play there are always like 4,5 conditions on me all the time.

But how can range be on commander

This is what really bother me, most melee train will dive straight to the back line, while our melee train hit their back line, they always focus me and since I’m not with the commander no boons no heals nothing and I will just simply die

BlackDevil.9268:

Butter.3024:

BlackDevil.9268:

Hm why exactly you wanna run with the front line constantly? Just wondering since the maximized dps is done by switching off by frontline and backline with shatter spec.
Which got 2 options:
1. Confusion dmg + raw dmg
2. Raw dmg+ confusion damage.

What do you mean?

Well if you wanna go for the highest dps, aka most efficient use of mesmer, you’ll most likely end up using a shatter build:
20-20-0-0-30
This means you can either spec for power and still deal a little bit damage with confusion on glamour skills or for condition damage whereas you can make with rune of perplexity an interrupt/confusion build with a bit damage from shatter and also ofc with confusion on shatter you can pretty much spread confusion constantly.

However to run this build, you gotta switch off with backline and frontline constantly.
You jump in the front line when you flank an enemy, but you stay on the backline when you’re about to get flanked or when 2 meleetrains rush into eachother. You’ll most likely get stuck in CC and get too much unnecessary damage if you stay at the frontline then.
And well ye, if you got too much damage before your own frontline flanks the enemy then you can’t even jump in with your own frontline when they flank the enemy cause you just boomed all your cd’s to stay alive.

What if the other melee train just Zerg straight at you? Should I blink away from fight or blink to my melee train?

Prioritize power precision toughness gear? Why 30 pts into illusion though, my clone always die so fast can’t even shatter

If I want to join the melee train with the commander, which weapon should I be using and what build?

Also, I’m using Hammer, when my team collapse on the enemy team since I was out of combat so I wasn’t being able to use hammer stun right away, I have to wait like 10s for a full power hammer stun, what should I do?

BlackDevil.9268:

Hm why exactly you wanna run with the front line constantly? Just wondering since the maximized dps is done by switching off by frontline and backline with shatter spec.
Which got 2 options:
1. Confusion dmg + raw dmg
2. Raw dmg+ confusion damage.

What do you mean?